PC gaming not that expensive ?

just take a look before saying BS:

PC(Q6600 8800GT), with all the stuf you need ( OS/Keyboard/mouse/Monitor(22')) $1800,-

Xbox 360 PRO bundle (inlcuding 2 games) $ 350.- good HDTV $900,- = $1250,-

so all setups run like they should, now we need some games, let's say I want 10 games for both platforms

PC= 10*50= $500 ( for 1 year) $1500 total

360=10*60= $600 ( for 1 year) $1800 Total

ok, we got our games, we finished the SP and want to begin some MP banging (for 3 years)

PC= free

360= 40*3= $120 ( 3 years)

after 3/4 years it's upgrade time:

PC= $400

360= $400 ( or FREE is you don't want to upgrade to the Xbox720 or something)

so too sum it all up:

PC 1800+ 1500= $3300 ( build from scratch lasting your 3 years) and $3700 for 6 years ( including 3 year upgrade) ( extra $300 after 6 years for OS making it $4000)

Xbox= $1250 + 1800 + 120 = $3170 ( for 3 years) $3570 for 6 years( including changing console)

sure, PC gaming is expensive, but if you look at the longer terms ( and people like me will be long term gamers) can see that the differences are not that big as many of you think

sorry if I made any math mistakes

W

PC gaming isn't expensive. Considering last gen's technology allows you to play new gen games. Though not at 100%

Most pc gamers like myself will be happy with 80-90% of how great the game is supposed to look. Can you say that about home consoles? Every 5 years, you're forced to buy a new console to play new games. Every 5 years pc gamers can still play new games, at medium/low settings. Until they decide to buy a few upgrades 1-2 years later.

You know that one pc rpg? that has like 50 billion users? World of Warcraft

It can be played with a 64mb video card. I tried it on a friend's old junk computer. It barely lags, only in big city areas.

That just goes to show you my example.

oh god not this agian. pc gaming is more expensive end of story. pc can use an hd tv to so 2000$ for a big dlp tv . 1500+ for a high end pc . =3500$ without games.deadmeat59

Iam talking about Hardcore gamers, the ones who want to upgrade every 3 year and console players who have big ass HDTV's

and , I know that Pc gaming is more expensive, but im just showing it's not that big of a difference

oh god not this agian. pc gaming is more expensive end of story. pc can use an hd tv to so 2000$ for a big dlp tv . 1500+ for a high end pc . =3500$ without games.deadmeat59

wait what? i have no idea what you just said.

You're trying to say you play home console games without a TV? oh my god. That's awesome. How do you see the pics? Do you insert the video components to your ears, and they just magicly pop in your head if you close your eyes?

that sounds cool. lol

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

P.S.- ^_^ Merry Christmas to you all in system wars!I'm about to go have me a Merry Christmas too with family!

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

killab2oo5

Well. It's hard to compete with a pc to home console comparison. Because the PC does A LOT more than just play video games and movies.

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]oh god not this agian. pc gaming is more expensive end of story. pc can use an hd tv to so 2000$ for a big dlp tv . 1500+ for a high end pc . =3500$ without games.grandlx2

wait what? i have no idea what you just said.

You're trying to say you play home console games without a TV? oh my god. That's awesome. How do you see the pics? Do you insert the video components to your ears, and they just magicly pop in your head if you close your eyes?

that sounds cool. lol

Last time I checked, my 360 had a VGA cable. Most people already have TVs. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

grandlx2

Well. It's hard to compete with a pc to home console comparison. Because the PC does A LOT more than just play video games and movies.

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

P.S.- ^_^ Merry Christmas to you all in system wars!I'm about to go have me a Merry Christmas too with family!

killab2oo5

[QUOTE="grandlx2"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

killab2oo5

Well. It's hard to compete with a pc to home console comparison. Because the PC does A LOT more than just play video games and movies.

pc mite have other uses but 90% of those uses can be done with a $200 pc so...

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

P.S.- ^_^ Merry Christmas to you all in system wars!I'm about to go have me a Merry Christmas too with family!

muscleserge

um no ?

a 360 is alot easier to move and keep in a place perminetly then a full tower pc that weighs 80 pounds

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="grandlx2"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

white45e

Well. It's hard to compete with a pc to home console comparison. Because the PC does A LOT more than just play video games and movies.

pc mite have other uses but 90% of those uses can be done with a $200 pc so...

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

P.S.- ^_^ Merry Christmas to you all in system wars!I'm about to go have me a Merry Christmas too with family!

white45e

um no ?

a 360 is alot easier to move and keep in a place perminetly then a full tower pc that weighs 80 pounds

[QUOTE="white45e"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="grandlx2"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

muscleserge

Well. It's hard to compete with a pc to home console comparison. Because the PC does A LOT more than just play video games and movies.

pc mite have other uses but 90% of those uses can be done with a $200 pc so...

hd movie playback takes up 20% of all the things computers can do ? no i think thats included in the 10% not coverd by $200 pc. and most ppl watch movies on a tv..

btw stop pirating.

oh and consoles can do hd playback..

[QUOTE="white45e"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

P.S.- ^_^ Merry Christmas to you all in system wars!I'm about to go have me a Merry Christmas too with family!

muscleserge

um no ?

a 360 is alot easier to move and keep in a place perminetly then a full tower pc that weighs 80 pounds

if your going to connect a pc to a tv then your gonna need a HD tv... so $2000 right there for a good one..

fail

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="white45e"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

P.S.- ^_^ Merry Christmas to you all in system wars!I'm about to go have me a Merry Christmas too with family!

white45e

um no ?

a 360 is alot easier to move and keep in a place perminetly then a full tower pc that weighs 80 pounds

if your going to connect a pc to a tv then your gonna need a HD tv... so $2000 right there for a good one..

fail

Except the 3 year upgrade isn't $400. My 3 1/2 year old PC can't play Crysis above Low (and even that, not very well) and I'm looking at $600 to upgrade it (new mobo, CPU, GPU, RAM, and PSU). There's just no games that I can't get already on consoles (see, it cuts both ways) that justify the expense.

Except the 3 year upgrade isn't $400. My 3 1/2 year old PC can't play Crysis above Low (and even that, not very well) and I'm looking at $600 to upgrade it (new mobo, CPU, GPU, RAM, and PSU). There's just no games that I can't get already on consoles (see, it cuts both ways) that justify the expense.

lowe0

You're the one who upgraded mid swingVandalvideo

Here in the UK.

Xbox360 games = £40 ( $80 )

PC Games = £20-25 ( $40-50 ).

I can buy 2 games for the price of one 360 game, that is a large portion of why I have bought only 2 360 games this year, 6 Wii games, and about 10 PC games.

My 360 cost £280 + £30 LIVE , + Charger £15 + Wireless Router £45 = £370 ( $ 740 ).

My PC ( from scratch including Case/Vista) =£750 .

Totally slams the 360, half the price for better quality of multiplats.

10 PC games = £200 ( $400) , 10 Xbox360 games = £400 ($ 800 )

Xbox360 gaming cheaper? Pffft ... in a year I alreayd save enoug hto buy a completely new gen graphic card by buying multiplats for the PC over 360... and still waddle the price difference down by the end since I only upgrade every 2 generations of cards (3 years)

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]You're the one who upgraded mid swinglowe0

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="white45e"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

P.S.- ^_^ Merry Christmas to you all in system wars!I'm about to go have me a Merry Christmas too with family!

white45e

um no ?

a 360 is alot easier to move and keep in a place perminetly then a full tower pc that weighs 80 pounds

if your going to connect a pc to a tv then your gonna need a HD tv... so $2000 right there for a good one..

fail

btw Merry Christmas I guess!

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]You're the one who upgraded mid swinglowe0

Whoa, is posting on the HArdware forum "Whats currently the most future proof hardware on the marker now or soon?" and waiting for a response too much effort?

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

P.S.- ^_^ Merry Christmas to you all in system wars!I'm about to go have me a Merry Christmas too with family!

muscleserge

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]You're the one who upgraded mid swingVandalvideo

I'm perfectly capable of informing myself about PC gaming hardware. I just don't see the value in it.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]You're the one who upgraded mid swingPC360Wii

Whoa, is posting on the HArdware forum "Whats currently the most future proof hardware on the marker now or soon?" and waiting for a response too much effort?

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]You're the one who upgraded mid swinglowe0

Whoa, is posting on the HArdware forum "Whats currently the most future proof hardware on the marker now or soon?" and waiting for a response too much effort?

Then why are you saying nonsense? finding out hardware takes 30 mins of your time tops, instead of the tired boring old "playing games which PC gamers clear are not because they have to think for 5 minutes" attitude?

probably because my car was twenty grand, and is a critical part of my life - I can't get to work without it. I spend all day researching technology and figuring out how to best apply it - why should I have to do it again when I get home just to be able to have fun? It's just not worth it when an alternative exists that's just as cheap (debatably cheaper), has all the games I want to play (the only PC exclusives I've wanted all year have been Crysis and DEFCON, and DEFCON runs just fine on my MacBook), and requires zero hassle.I'm perfectly capable of informing myself about PC gaming hardware. I just don't see the value in it.lowe0

oh god not this agian. pc gaming is more expensive end of story. pc can use an hd tv to so 2000$ for a big dlp tv . 1500+ for a high end pc . =3500$ without games.deadmeat59

explain why 2003's r9600 can run cod4 then? and why a single core cpu is also fine? or why a dx7 gpu can run hl2 also explain why a midrange card such as a 8600 can run cod4 better than consoles? it can handle 720p on high settings while console can't mange more than 600p

[QUOTE="grandlx2"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]oh god not this agian. pc gaming is more expensive end of story. pc can use an hd tv to so 2000$ for a big dlp tv . 1500+ for a high end pc . =3500$ without games.VScalar

wait what? i have no idea what you just said.

You're trying to say you play home console games without a TV? oh my god. That's awesome. How do you see the pics? Do you insert the video components to your ears, and they just magicly pop in your head if you close your eyes?

that sounds cool. lol

Last time I checked, my 360 had a VGA cable. Most people already have TVs. Hope that helps.

last time I checked the only thing I would have to upgrade to max every game would be my gpu

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

P.S.- ^_^ Merry Christmas to you all in system wars!I'm about to go have me a Merry Christmas too with family!

white45e

um no ?

a 360 is alot easier to move and keep in a place perminetly then a full tower pc that weighs 80 pounds

a pc is just as easy as a console to move and if you care about that get a micro atx case which is no bigger than consoles and can have just as mcuh power in it or even the shuttle which is half the size of x360 but doesn't lack grunt

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="white45e"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

-.-' These price threads always over-inflate prices. Whats stopping me from using my 100 dollars 20 inch TV moniter with my 360? Nothing. Really though...360 premium=$380,Wii=$250,PS3 40GB=$400...gaming PC=$800 at the minimum,maybe a bit cheaper. Whether you like it or not,majority of Americans have TV's so if they decide to get a console,they dont have to worry about video output. When people buy a PC,do you think they're gonna have a PC moniter laying around?No...yes PC's have TV Output but majority of pre-built PC's dont...so your going to have to buy a moniter of some kind. A lot of the PC gamers talk about getting game cheaper online...well I bought Bioshock for $30 dollars on Ebay,CoD4 for $45 on Ebay...same with The Orange Box,Assassins Creed and Mass Effect. -.-' If you wanna debate prices,then look up one of the hundreds of threads already made and bump it.

P.S.- ^_^ Merry Christmas to you all in system wars!I'm about to go have me a Merry Christmas too with family!

white45e

um no ?

a 360 is alot easier to move and keep in a place perminetly then a full tower pc that weighs 80 pounds

if your going to connect a pc to a tv then your gonna need a HD tv... so $2000 right there for a good one..

fail

If you're going to compare the gaming cost of a PC and a Console, the comparison should be base on "visual quality + performance of the PC" VS "visual quality + performance of the Console".

And remember the Xbox360 runs at 720p (1365x768 ), which is considered "low-standard" resolution on the PC. But PS3 can game up to 1080p (1900x1200), which is "high" resolution on the PC. Sure the PC can do even more extreme resolutions, but do you know how much those systems cost, which would derail the whole point of "PC gaming is not that expensive".

And remember the Xbox360 runs at 720p (1365x768 )

KhanhAgE

If you're going to compare the gaming cost of a PC and a Console, the comparison should be base on "visual quality + performance of the PC" VS "visual quality + performance of the Console".

And remember the Xbox360 runs at 720p (1365x768 ), which is considered "low-standard" resolution on the PC. But PS3 can game up to 1080p (1900x1200), which is "high" resolution on the PC. Sure the PC can do even more extreme resolutions, but do you know how much those systems cost, which would derail the whole point of "PC gaming is not that expensive".

KhanhAgE

the games that run natively at 1080p can be counted at one hand...halo3 runs at 640p same with cod4... so at that resolution and settings a $500 pc can run crysis...

What are you talking about?

PC Gaming is clearly the most expensive.

They have the most amount of games to buy.:P

This is overkill, too. You don't even need an 8800Ultra.

Xbox 360 and PC can game on the same monitor, any $250 widescreen monitor will do for either system. There's no inherient need for a 360 to have an 32" monitor anymore than a PC must have a smaller 22" monitor - get the size that fits what you're going to do with it.

The problem with the 360 is that if you're making it your primary system, your game costs, LIVE costs, and accessory costs will eventually even-out to "mid-range" PC gaming costs (PC games, accessories, and online costs are lower). You're trying to make a valid point (PC gaming is affordable) but you're going about it with flawed arguments.

-

The real bottom line is that gaming is as cheap or as expenisve as you want to make it, and that the "starting point" for each platform is the biggest challenge. If you're a PC-gamer looking at the 360, paying $400 to get the console going (Pro Bundle + LIVE) is significant, if you're a console gamer looking at the $600~ $700 to get into PC gaming (hardware wise) is daunting.

Paying $50 for LIVE once you have a 360, or paying $200 for a new graphics card once you have a gaming PC is not as big of a deal.

Oh please, posting in the hardware forums and asking (ashould I upgrade) takes all of one minute. Its not some grand effort on your part and you're blowing it way out of proportion. Its good to be an informed buyer in ANYTHING you do. Its sad really when people have this menality of LAWL ILL JUST BUY IT. Its horrible business sense. Really, the only valid arguement you've amd is that it doesnt have games you want, which is totally preference.Vandalvideo

Incidentally, back in college, everyone I knew was slapping together their own machines - I was doing it back in high school, in the days of SET BLASTER statements (anyone who doesn't have their old address, IRQ, and DMA memorized: please don't bother criticizing me, because you don't have enough experience for me to care about your opinion). Now, after graduation, those are the same people sending me friend invites and asking what's good on 360. If their reasoning is anything like mine, then they're simply not finding it worth the time any more when the same experience is available in the living room.

SET BLASTER statements? Those were the days, fiddling around in setup programs to find out whether your sound card was on address 0x220 or 0x240, IRQ 3, 5, 7, or something else, DMA 0, 1, or 3....we have it so much easier now. (And we also don't have to deal with those bloody master/slave settings now that we have SATA!) (Sorry, couldn't help but get all nostalgic.) However, as you also said, what seems simple to us PC enthusiasts is perceived as insurmountably complex by most of the people around us. (That seems to be a general trait of humanity-we natually expect everyone else to know the things we know. But back on topic...) Most of my peers get lost when I start spitting out loads of technical jargon, and some of my friends who are also into games don't want to bother to keep up with upgrading their PCs and whatnot. PC gaming isn't for everyone, for it is very complex and wallet-thinning(as much as I love gaming on PCs more than anything else, I'll be the first to admit that you'll want at least 1000 US$ for a good gaming PC, price only including case, everything inside of the case, and the OS!)...but neither is console gaming, for some people do demand things out of their primary gaming platforms that only a PC can deliver, and are willing to pay the higher price to do so.NamelessPlayer

Thats for USA here in EU console games cost up to 70 euros...PC games can cost even 30 euros at day of release...

I don't spend that much on either console or PC hardware. Last gen I spent not much more then $1000 on PC and less then thaton consoles and owned a GC ($200), PS2 ($200), DC ($100) and Xbox ($200, none where bought at launch) while keeping up with PC hardware requirements well enough to play most games I wanted. Bought an XP 2000 and Ge Force3 Ti 200 in 2002 and upgraded to XP 3200, extra 512 MB RAM and Ge Force 6600 in 2005. The upgrade didn't cost much.

Gaming hardware is only expensive if you want the very best PC hardware and buy consoles at launch. That said, this gen I didn't wait for a 360 price drop, I waited and year and it didn't happen so I just paid $400. I predict hardware will cost me more this generation, console hardware anyway.