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#1 br0kenrabbit
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I'll leave this right here.

Remember System Wars at the start of this gen? PC gaming was suppose to go away forever, because "the HD twins can do everything the PC does only cheaper."

What do you want to bet we hear the same BS when the next consoles near release?

Now who said "History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes?"

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Prepareing for 20+ pages of garbage.

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#3 Spartan070
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So it WAS once dead, I knew it lol :P /sarcasm
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#4 Spartan070
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Prepareing for 20+ pages of garbage.

Wasdie
:lol: Keep that mod-trigger at the ready lol
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#5 Mr_BillGates
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Casuals rather buy iPADs than consoles nowadays. The arrow will continue to go down.

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#6 ionusX
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Casuals rather buy iPADs than consoles nowadays. The arrow will continue to go down.

Mr_BillGates

mm ipads however will probably not do so hot.. i rpedict price hikes and shortages worldwide as apple scampers like a man possessed around the room looking for someone other than rambus (greatly more expensive + no more proprietary memory hugging) and epsilion(about to go belly up) to make their tablet ram.

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#7 JW-toch
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Well that's great! With the PC there's more power to be used, so more room for innovation and better games. We all want better games, right?

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#8 wis3boi
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#9 lowe0
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Comeback? PC and consoles were fine six years ago. They're fine now. I don't see any comeback, any platforms dying, or really, much difference at all. Free to play will be an interesting growth opportunity for PCs, but it'll also drive out the single-player games I love. And the big money will continue to flow to social games, especially those with a mobile version.
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#10 br0kenrabbit
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Comeback? PC and consoles were fine six years ago. They're fine now. I don't see any comeback, any platforms dying, or really, much difference at all. Free to play will be an interesting growth opportunity for PCs, but it'll also drive out the single-player games I love. And the big money will continue to flow to social games, especially those with a mobile version.lowe0

I think most would understand it's referring to PC revenue vs console, not that any system was really floundering.

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#11 BPoole96
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But what about teh piracy?

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#12 wis3boi
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Comeback? PC and consoles were fine six years ago. They're fine now. I don't see any comeback, any platforms dying, or really, much difference at all. Free to play will be an interesting growth opportunity for PCs, but it'll also drive out the single-player games I love. And the big money will continue to flow to social games, especially those with a mobile version.lowe0
ITT: lowe didn't read the chart correctly
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#13 N30F3N1X
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The complete graph

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#14 fueled-system
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How many times do we need these "pc is not dead" threads? We have one everyday, the only people saying its dying are the ones who either hate it or never even tried it..
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#15 wis3boi
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How many times do we need these "pc is not dead" threads? We have one everyday, the only people saying its dying are the ones who either hate it or never even tried it..fueled-system
it's more fun to pour salt and lemon juice in the wounds
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#16 ionusX
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this is the day.. and here is how i usher it in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSRjF9FKIAQ&feature=related

finally the pc has come back to the indutry as a reasonable medium of ent.

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#17 Heil68
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Feels good to be a PC gamer.
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#18 arto1223
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[QUOTE="fueled-system"]How many times do we need these "pc is not dead" threads? We have one everyday, the only people saying its dying are the ones who either hate it or never even tried it..wis3boi
it's more fun to pour salt and lemon juice in the wounds

Seriously, these kinds of threads are just payback for all the 'PC gaming is dead' stuff a few years back.

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#19 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]Comeback? PC and consoles were fine six years ago. They're fine now. I don't see any comeback, any platforms dying, or really, much difference at all. Free to play will be an interesting growth opportunity for PCs, but it'll also drive out the single-player games I love. And the big money will continue to flow to social games, especially those with a mobile version.wis3boi
ITT: lowe didn't read the chart correctly

The revenue lines clearly trend flat, and not all that far apart (about 25%). Which one of us didn't read the chart, again?
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#20 Kiro0
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Feels good to be a PC gamer.Heil68
So good. Honestly just a couple years ago I was kind of in the same boat as most people were. Convinced PC gaming was going to be limited to half-assed ports of games already on consoles and a few indie titles. But now with so much going on in the world of PC gaming again it's feeling great to have a gaming rig.

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#21 lazerface216
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it left? wow you lames can't make your mind up...

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#22 razgriz_101
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Recorded music might be in a downfall but with gig attendance getting higher and the general music scene being more acessible why would you buy CD's now really :P

gigs are far more fun and social aswell as meeting new folks just thought i'd add that but thats my thinking on why its getting lower, aswell as a lot of labels giving away tasters and some bands even releasing cd's for free after release now (lot of smaller bands are moving to this).

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#23 dontshackzmii
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this has been posted a billion times. Consoles sell more games.

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#24 Jankarcop
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Its been doing better than each console for like 4 years now. Its always had the most games each gen as well.

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#25 freedomfreak
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yay

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#26 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]Comeback? PC and consoles were fine six years ago. They're fine now. I don't see any comeback, any platforms dying, or really, much difference at all. Free to play will be an interesting growth opportunity for PCs, but it'll also drive out the single-player games I love. And the big money will continue to flow to social games, especially those with a mobile version.br0kenrabbit

I think most would understand it's referring to PC revenue vs console, not that any system was really floundering.

More specifically, it combines Newzoo's numbers for retail and digital with casual and MMOs. The company that prepared this chart, Ignite, are developing a free to play racing sim, so it makes sense that they'd include those. However, the numbers still show two viable categories of platform. It's not like PC is coming back from the dead, just moving along as usual. The hit to consoles looks more alarming, but I'd need to see the previous years to know if it's really a steep decline, or just coming off an unusually good year.
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#27 Tikeio
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Hooray... I'm so glad PC gaming made this *grand* comeback, even though PC gaming never went anywhere.

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#28 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Glad I play on PC :D

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#29 MrJack3690
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Interesting, I got my Gaming PC right around where it seems to have started to grow (got my desktop in August 2010). Spent from Summer of 2009 on here and looking into PC gaming (always supported it, just never actually bought a PC of my own to game on) and then once I had a much better idea of what I was doing and what it was all about I got into it. And I absolutely love it, I still like to have my consoles on the side as well.

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#30 Grovilis
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The average Xbox 360/PS3 player only puts in 4 hours into each of their games? Jeez. Even 8 hours is low if you're paying 60 bucks.

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#31 kozzy1234
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I am surprised there is not more hate in this thread :lol:

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#32 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I am surprised there is not more hate in this thread :lol:

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You can't argue with facts and graphs :P

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#33 lazerface216
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The average Xbox 360/PS3 player only puts in 4 hours into each of their games? Jeez. Even 8 hours is low if you're paying 60 bucks.

Grovilis

take these numbers with a grain of salt buddy. i mean, they actually compared july 2010 sales of ncaa football to f*cking starcraft 2 for christ's sake. like that proves anything at all.

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#34 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I am surprised there is not more hate in this thread :lol:

seanmcloughlin

You can't argue with facts and graphs :P

Alot of people on system wars do though :lol:

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#35 R4gn4r0k
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this has been posted a billion times.

dontshackzmii

than why keep ignoring it ?

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#36 glez13
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I am surprised there is not more hate in this thread :lol:

seanmcloughlin

You can't argue with facts and graphs :P

Until people like loosingends appear... >.>

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#37 Tikeio
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I am surprised there is not more hate in this thread :lol:

seanmcloughlin

You can't argue with facts and graphs :P

That, and some users simply view this as a reassurance topic, and move along. Especially when the OP is this:

Remember System Wars at the start of this gen? PC gaming was suppose to go away forever, because "the HD twins can do everything the PC does only cheaper."

What do you want to bet we hear the same BS when the next consoles near release?

Now who said "History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes?"

br0kenrabbit

Good 'ol SW. :roll:

I've only been here for a year though, so I wouldn't know what went on at the start of this gen.

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#38 br0kenrabbit
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Good 'ol SW. :roll:

I've only been here for a year though, so I wouldn't know what went on at the start of this gen.

Tikeio

It was great. "PC is doomed now that consoles do HD/online. Why would anyone need a PC? No one is gonig to spend $2K on a PC when you can get a 360 for $300! Devs are abonding the PC in droves, enjoy your ports!" ;)

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#39 edinsftw
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At the end of the day for these companies its about profits and not sales. People need to understand that releasing a game on pc is quite a bit cheaper and easier. You dont pay royalties unless its on steam, and even then its nothing compared to the royalties of Sony, MS, Nintendo. Not to mention you steam is wayyyy better than going through a publisher.

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[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Good 'ol SW. :roll:

I've only been here for a year though, so I wouldn't know what went on at the start of this gen.

br0kenrabbit

It was great. "PC is doomed now that consoles do HD/online. Why would anyone need a PC? No one is gonig to spend $2K on a PC when you can get a 360 for $300! Devs are abonding the PC in droves, enjoy your ports!" ;)

Lol I remember at the start of the gen that 360 & PS3 were supposed to do 1080P, well at least the PS3 was. Console fanboys (and I do mean the fanboys) were going mental.

Now there is this thread on the front page of SW 'Will Xbox720 be able to output 1080P' or something like that and again some console fanboys (everyone knows who) are going '720P is more than enough, only hermits care about higher resolution'. Laughing my ass off.

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#41 Stalkerfieldsis
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[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Good 'ol SW. :roll:

I've only been here for a year though, so I wouldn't know what went on at the start of this gen.

br0kenrabbit

It was great. "PC is doomed now that consoles do HD/online. Why would anyone need a PC? No one is gonig to spend $2K on a PC when you can get a 360 for $300! Devs are abonding the PC in droves, enjoy your ports!" ;)

Heretic! Burn the heretic! :P

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I am surprised there is not more hate in this thread :lol:

kozzy1234

You can't argue with facts and graphs :P

Alot of people on system wars do though :lol:

They try to but always fall flat on their faces. Especially when it's blatant fanboys doing it, they use some pretty dumb reasons for why consoles are better or why PC sucks etc. like zombiekiller's arguements. They are all personal tastes and nothing about the platform at all.

The biggest ones though are "you can play consoles on a couch with a pad". Which if people in 2012 still think it's only consoles that can do that then they should just leave and say no more because it's completely stupid. I hate when they say it like you can ONLY do that on consoles

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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Good 'ol SW. :roll:

I've only been here for a year though, so I wouldn't know what went on at the start of this gen.

R4gn4r0k

It was great. "PC is doomed now that consoles do HD/online. Why would anyone need a PC? No one is gonig to spend $2K on a PC when you can get a 360 for $300! Devs are abonding the PC in droves, enjoy your ports!" ;)

Lol I remember at the start of the gen that 360 & PS3 were supposed to do 1080P, well at least the PS3 was. Console fanboys (and I do mean the fanboys) were going mental.

Now there is this thread on the front page of SW 'Will Xbox720 be able to output 1080P' or something like that and again some console fanboys (everyone knows who) are going '720P is more than enough, only hermits care about higher resolution'. Laughing my ass off.

Remember the cell was supposed to be able to do 1080p natively and give us 120 FPS :lol: those claims were so funny. And people really believed them. If they can't do it this gen then consoles are boned. I expect no less than 1080p from them. or at least get really high framerates at slightly lower than 1080. But never go back to 720, that just looks blurry these days

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#44 Tikeio
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[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

It was great. "PC is doomed now that consoles do HD/online. Why would anyone need a PC? No one is gonig to spend $2K on a PC when you can get a 360 for $300! Devs are abonding the PC in droves, enjoy your ports!" ;)

seanmcloughlin

Lol I remember at the start of the gen that 360 & PS3 were supposed to do 1080P, well at least the PS3 was. Console fanboys (and I do mean the fanboys) were going mental.

Now there is this thread on the front page of SW 'Will Xbox720 be able to output 1080P' or something like that and again some console fanboys (everyone knows who) are going '720P is more than enough, only hermits care about higher resolution'. Laughing my ass off.

Remember the cell was supposed to be able to do1080p natively and give us 120 FPS :lol: those claims were so funny. And people really believed them. If they can't do it this gen then consoles are boned. I expect no less than 1080p from them. or at least get really high framerates at slightly lower than 1080. But never go back to 720, that just looks blurry these days

Don't forget 4D. ;)

Sony hyped the s**t outta the PS3. :lol:

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#45 br0kenrabbit
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Remember the cell was supposed to be able to do 1080p natively and give us 120 FPS :lol: those claims were so funny. And people really believed them. If they can't do it this gen then consoles are boned. I expect no less than 1080p from them. or at least get really high framerates at slightly lower than 1080. But never go back to 720, that just looks blurry these days

seanmcloughlin

Hell, I remember Sony touting that the Emotion Engine (PS2) would be appearing in everything from TVs to your refrigerator.

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Remember the cell was supposed to be able to do 1080p natively and give us 120 FPS :lol: those claims were so funny. And people really believed them. If they can't do it this gen then consoles are boned. I expect no less than 1080p from them. or at least get really high framerates at slightly lower than 1080. But never go back to 720, that just looks blurry these days

seanmcloughlin

Especially since unlike consoles in the past 7 years technology has moved forward. TV's have moved forward.

We may be considered hermits here, whatever. But some people are such fanboys that they'll go by whatever their favourite company tells them.

You only get 720P: Doesn't matter 720P is the best thing ever*

You now get 1080P: OMG take that hermits What kind of advantage do you have now !*

*dramatization, or is it ?

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Those console's processor's are garbage? 500mhx xbox? I thought you were made in 2002, not 1999. Why is pc listed as 1 ghz? Should be at least 3, if not 4 or even 5 nowadays.
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#48 N30F3N1X
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it left? wow you lames can't make your mind up...

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What an introspective and insightful comment.

Hats off to you sir.

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#49 br0kenrabbit
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Those console's processor's are garbage? 500mhx xbox? I thought you were made in 2002, not 1999. Why is pc listed as 1 ghz? Should be at least 3, if not 4 or even 5 nowadays.YoshiYogurt

GPU, not CPU.

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#50 N30F3N1X
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Those console's processor's are garbage? 500mhx xbox? I thought you were made in 2002, not 1999. Why is pc listed as 1 ghz? Should be at least 3, if not 4 or even 5 nowadays.YoshiYogurt

Those are GPU frequencies.