PC hardware is a generation ahead of consoles. PC games are not. (56k not ok)

Before we start I'd like to say yes, I own a "gaming" PC. It might not be the monster that some people here may have, but I own Crysis,

Crysis 2, The Witcher 2, Skyrim all on PC and I can play them all on medium to very high at 1080P at 45 to60+ fps. Are they beautiful and

stunning? Yes. Are they a "generation ahead" of PS3/360 games? Absolutely not. To put things in perspective here's what a "generational leap"

actually is:

Final Fantasy 12 (PS2)

Final Fantasy 13 (PS3)

Killzone 1 (PS2)

Killzone 3 (PS3)

Now if you ask someone to show you a PC game that is a Generational Leap above the best looking console games many of the less

reasonable PC enthusiasts will engage in a form of stealth trolling where they will find the absolute worst screenshot of a console game and

cram it at its native resolution into a much smaller Gamespot comment box, giving the most disingenuous representation of the games

appearance possible. Le'?s see what happens when we try this tactic on:

Crysis at ultra high settings:

Not very impressive is it? I wouldn't call that a very good representation of the games appearance would you? Then they will try and compare

these horrible pictures to unplayable mods and tech demos that are not even playable games. At that point you could literally just start

posting pics of Avatar or Shrek. Beautiful though they might be, games they are not. The fact is that there is no PC game that is a

generation ahead of these:

And why is that? When a PC can literally be infinitely more powerful than a console? Because game publishers can't afford to spend multiple

millions of dollars developing a game that can only be run on high end enthusiast gaming rigs. They would never see a return for their

investment. Even PC exclusives such as Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 are graphically unimpressive because they are made to run on as many

computers as possible from a monster gaming rig to a netbook.

And that's exactly why, though games may look better on PC; while improved resolution and anti aliasing certainly help; at the fundamental

level they most definitely do not look a generation ahead. And they won't look a generation ahead until the next generation of consoles is in

full effect....

Good detective work there Batman.

What he says is true, no pc game looks a gen ahead, not any I've played atleast. I doubt any of you can argue different

Third, I'm pretty sure Crisis looks way better than that. You probably just took a low-medium shot and tried to pass as a max settings shot.Link3301

So, 480p to 720p (or lower, in many instances)? We have a 720p (or lower) to 1920x1080+ (up to ridiculous resolutions). On top of far more taxing AA/AF solutions, texture resolutions, effects in general (depending on the games).

Generational leaps cannot be defined. They are completely seperate and the jumps with be largely different, i.e. the jump from 2D to 3D was much larger than non-HD to HD IMO... which is what this thread is... Opinionated.

Ooooh, you are going to make the Lems even more butthurt by those beautiful PS3 screens and gifs! Good job! :cool:

What he says is true, no pc game looks a gen ahead, not any I've played atleast. I doubt any of you can argue different

Maneil99

It's completely subjective. There are no objective definitions for a generational leap.

Thread failed as soon as you posted the Crysis pic. ****ing dumbass posting a picture of a rock up close.

Diminishing returns is all I can say. More hardware, less impressive results.

cool stuff

Thread failed as soon as you posted the Crysis pic. ****ing dumbass posting a picture of a rock up close.

MacBoomStick

This thread will go places.

What he says is true, no pc game looks a gen ahead, not any I've played atleast. I doubt any of you can argue different

Maneil99

Define "gen ahead". What does a gen ahead look like? Describe it in words.

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What he says is true, no pc game looks a gen ahead, not any I've played atleast. I doubt any of you can argue different

Grovilis

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Thread failed as soon as you posted the Crysis pic. ****ing dumbass posting a picture of a rock up close.

inb4uall

[QUOTE="Link3301"]Third, I'm pretty sure Crisis looks way better than that. You probably just took a low-medium shot and tried to pass as a max settings shot.RyviusARC

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What he says is true, no pc game looks a gen ahead, not any I've played atleast. I doubt any of you can argue different

Maneil99

I'm not quite sure why the hermits are still even talking about Crysis.

This is a gen ahead:

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This is a gen ahead:

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mitu123

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This is a gen ahead:

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Maneil99

first of all replace that butt ulgy picture of KZ2 because you are not doing it justice...

On, topic. I understand what you are talking about but good luck discussing something about consoles with hard core hermits in a positive light.

Yes they do.

PS3 exclusives are linear and yet look like crap.PS3 sucks and the first party devs have no talent.

Deal with it.

Crysis 1 on ultra high settings actually in game staring at a rock. seems legit alright

When console games can do this then I'll listen

I think what console owners fail to realize, is that we're not just talking about how it looks, but how it plays as well.

I think they're all expecting 1200p resolution with 60-120 fps while all games looking like Crysis being the norm next gen.

It ain't going to happen folks, ESPECIALLY with the currently rumored console specs. You're getting 1080p/30fps at best.

I love it when people use Hard Rain, especially when they call it a game. :P There are NES titles more interactive than Hard Rain.tagyhag

Would you say that The Walking Dead isn't a game? It's basically the same game design.

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As for the OP, he's right. No PC game is a generation ahead of consoles.

This is just a sandbox MMO

I think what console owners fail to realize, is that we're not just talking about how it looks, but how it plays as well.

I think they're all expecting 1200p resolution with 60-120 fps while all games looking like Crysis being the norm next gen.

It ain't going to happen folks, ESPECIALLY with the currently rumored console specs. You're getting 1080p/30fps at best.

tagyhag

The biggest benefit to PC gaming graphics are FPS, I think.

You're right about next gen hardware. I don't think people should get excited about having Avatar-like graphics next gen. It's probably not even going to be as big a jump as XBOX to X360.

first of all replace that butt ulgy picture of KZ2 because you are not doing it justice...

On, topic. I understand what you are talking about but good luck discussing something about consoles with hard core hermits in a positive light.

casharmy

@ RyviusARC

I think Casharmy was just saying that Killzone 2 (which is technically inferior to KZ3) could be better represented. Those pics you posted look better, but not a generation ahead.

This is funny. Last time I was on SW it was always 360 versus PS3 graphics. Now its PC versus consoles LOL. What happened? Lemmings give up?

Crysis 1 on ultra high settings actually in game staring at a rock. seems legit alright

When console games can do this then I'll listen

seanmcloughlin

Which mods are you using in these screenshots?

@ RyviusARC

I think Casharmy was just saying that Killzone 2 (which is technically inferior to KZ3) could be better represented. Those pics you posted look better, but not a generation ahead.

This is funny. Last time I was on SW it was always 360 versus PS3 graphics. Now its PC versus consoles LOL. What happened? Lemmings give up?

TREAL_Since

Crysis 1 on ultra high settings actually in game staring at a rock. seems legit alright

When console games can do this then I'll listen

seanmcloughlin

I'd much rather take 480p Wii graphics over that any day. That shot makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

@ RyviusARC

I think Casharmy was just saying that Killzone 2 (which is technically inferior to KZ3) could be better represented. Those pics you posted look better, but not a generation ahead.

This is funny. Last time I was on SW it was always 360 versus PS3 graphics. Now its PC versus consoles LOL. What happened? Lemmings give up?

TREAL_Since

This is just a sandbox MMO

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@ RyviusARC

I think Casharmy was just saying that Killzone 2 (which is technically inferior to KZ3) could be better represented. Those pics you posted look better, but not a generation ahead.

This is funny. Last time I was on SW it was always 360 versus PS3 graphics. Now its PC versus consoles LOL. What happened? Lemmings give up?

RyviusARC

I think you have my words confused. I was just elaborating on the point the TC proposed. PC games, as of now, don't look a generation ahead of console games, but they look better (and a few look way better). At least not a generational leap we're accustomed to.

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As far as next gen graphics, I'm just going by rumors and Epic's statements. BTW, I never mentioned next gen in my particular post torwards you.

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Crysis 1 on ultra high settings actually in game staring at a rock. seems legit alright

When console games can do this then I'll listen

ChubbyGuy40

I'd much rather take 480p Wii graphics over that any day. That shot makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

I have this very same EBN for Skyrim. The depth of field can be very annoying and hurt your eyes after awhile. It has its novelty, but I turned it off.

Mods are the true advantage of PC gaming :).

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Crysis 1 on ultra high settings actually in game staring at a rock. seems legit alright

When console games can do this then I'll listen

ChubbyGuy40

I'd much rather take 480p Wii graphics over that any day. That shot makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

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@ RyviusARC

I think Casharmy was just saying that Killzone 2 (which is technically inferior to KZ3) could be better represented. Those pics you posted look better, but not a generation ahead.

This is funny. Last time I was on SW it was always 360 versus PS3 graphics. Now its PC versus consoles LOL. What happened? Lemmings give up?

TREAL_Since

I think you have my words confused. I was just elaborating on the point the TC proposed. PC games, as of now, don't look a generation ahead of console games, but they look better (and a few look way better). At least not a generational leap we're accustomed to.

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As far as next gen graphics, I'm just going by rumors and Epic's statements. BTW, I never mentioned next gen in my particular post torwards you.

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[QUOTE="RyviusARC"] Can you give me your crystal ball because I want to know how next gen will look because obviously you would know.RyviusARC

I think you have my words confused. I was just elaborating on the point the TC proposed. PC games, as of now, don't look a generation ahead of console games, but they look better (and a few look way better). At least not a generational leap we're accustomed to.

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As far as next gen graphics, I'm just going by rumors and Epic's statements. BTW, I never mentioned next gen in my particular post torwards you.

I said: "those pics aren't a generation ahead...At least what we're accustomed to". And what we're accustomed to are big jumps. And right now, the best of what PC has to offer isn't that big of a jump to me.

No, I don't have a crystal ball that conjures a vision of next gen graphics. I play these games daily on the highest settings. They don't look "OMG" levels better than the best of what consoles have to offer. Sure, underneath the hood, these games are doing more, but what I see on the screen is comparable for most games.

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[QUOTE="RyviusARC"] Can you give me your crystal ball because I want to know how next gen will look because obviously you would know.RyviusARC

I think you have my words confused. I was just elaborating on the point the TC proposed. PC games, as of now, don't look a generation ahead of console games, but they look better (and a few look way better). At least not a generational leap we're accustomed to.

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As far as next gen graphics, I'm just going by rumors and Epic's statements. BTW, I never mentioned next gen in my particular post torwards you.

Well aren't you a hypocritcal moron,

Aren't you one of the zealot hermits that keeps saying PC looks a generation ahead? now you are all over his back saying he doesn't know what next gen looks like? Sit your stupid ass down. Posters like you prove Hermits are no better than any other fanboys.