PC has become a legit (one vs. one) fighting game platform. And here's why:

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

TC: PC has become a legit (one vs. one) fighting game platform.

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Nope, although I own a few of those on PC.

You know why, because the very best fighting gamres don't flock to PC. The competition online stinks for a lot of the time.

Then there is the fact that you skipped over a ton of awesome fighting games that never came to PC and we have an open and shut case:

F**k no.
BTW: I would say the exact reverse if we were talking RTS on consoles and recommend PC all the way.

Mr-Kutaragi

I have in the past to do comparisons or to play with different XBL/PSN/PC friends like SF4, SF2, MvC, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter, BF3, COD, etc.

However, over the past few years I play mostly exclusives now on each machine due to time constraints (including PC, Wii, Wii U, and handhelds). When I do buy a multiplat now it is for one machine or the other, like Borderlands 1/2 I have on 360 based on the co op nature with friends I have to play with on that machine, and Zone of the Enders HD I have on PS3 (which got a HD patch only for PS3 like SH collection).

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Articuno76"] Say you are at an event where there is no internet (often there isn't). You plug in a controller and there are no drivers found on the machine. Then what?

Articuno76

Are we using windows 3.1 or DOS... whatchu saying Willis ?

Also event without Internet... what the ?

And event without already tested machines ?

First of all Internet is not a big deal. Any event without Internet shouldn't even be called an event, heck their shouldn't even be one.

Second, if Internet was an issue, Window can install just about any controller without issue...or else how would your M&K even work when you first power on your PC without internet ?

Third, if it was still an issue for you... bring out the drivers with you, by USB key or CD.

If one brings a custom job with a PCB... how would that even work on console ?

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Articuno76"] Say you are at an event where there is no internet (often there isn't). You plug in a controller and there are no drivers found on the machine. Then what?

Articuno76

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What OS are you using ? Have you ever installed a driver for connecting a X360 gamepad on your PC ?

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Articuno76"] Say you are at an event where there is no internet (often there isn't). You plug in a controller and there are no drivers found on the machine. Then what?

Articuno76

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[QUOTE="Articuno76"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

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lawlessx

Windows Vista SP1 and any version of Windows 7 have the driver pre-installed.

When first attacthing the controller, the OS will install the driver for you.

There is a hitch, though. Online multiplayer is really problematic for fighting games, where any input lag at all can screw you over.PannicAtack

[QUOTE="Articuno76"] The internet issue is a big deal. This is one of the reasons DLC characters (though not the only reason) are problematic in tournament scenes. There is no guarantee that every machine will be updated to and have all of that stuff. The point of the internet is also important because it is the primary means of identifying controller ID's and acquiring drivers (as far as I know). You normally don't notice it because it happens in the background whilst your machine is online. Testing the machines for drivers or not isn't the problem. Their might be someone who comes with a controller you didn't expect (I'm sure hitboxes raised a few eyebrows when they first appeared) or a custom job with a PCB that doesn't correspond to one of the most popular controllers. Now, I could understand if the game they were playing was only available on PC, or if swift mouse-input raised the competitive level of the game on the PC version...but fighting games don't gain a competitive edge from being on the PC. Why bother with any of the potential headaches (no matter how small or unlikely they might be) when there is already an option out there that does exactly everything the tournament scene wants it to? It doesn't really make sense.Bebi_vegeta

First of all Internet is not a big deal. Any event without Internet shouldn't even be called an event, heck their shouldn't even be one.

Second, if Internet was an issue, Window can install just about any controller without issue...or else how would your M&K even work when you first power on your PC without internet ?

Third, if it was still an issue for you... bring out the drivers with you, by USB key or CD.

If one brings a custom job with a PCB... how would that even work on console ?

Okay.

i.The reality however is, is some that events are held in places not for their connectivity but for location, accessibility and price of renting the venue. Going forward I think that could be changed. But as things stand this isn't viable. And tbh the set-up (consoles) they have now already work. The events I am thinking of are mostly qualifiers for larger tournaments. Sometimes there is internet (for streaming) but sometimes there isn't. But this isn't the only problem (jump ahead to point 3).

ii.Generic profiles. Windows recognises that a mouse is a mouse but some of the special functions that require a driver to instruct how the hardware should function won't work correctly until the specific driver is in place. This can be problematic for setting-up controls in a tournament quickly. In fact many USB controllers when plugged in without the corresponding driver are recognised by the OS as a generic USB input device...that can't do anything. Again, you could go to the trouble of ensuring things like this don't happen by being really thorough with your preparations, but why bother when there is an alternative that saves you from having to do so? Fidelity isn't a big factor in a tournament scene; time, ease and and consistency of experience are what matter.

iii. Okay on the theme of time again. In many tournaments people aren't even allowed to use wireless controllers because of the time and messiness of synching. To keep things smooth most tournaments did away wireless controllers. I get that the amount of time lost (and the relative amount of hassle caused) is really, almost insignificantly tiny, but again, when there is an alternative for organisers that relieves of them of this headache, why wouldn't they take it? iv. Custom sticks still use PCBs that are officially recognised by the console manufacturer. Even if the PCB is obscure it won't matter as long as Sony or MS has okayed the accessory that the PCB originated from.

What OS are you using ? Have you ever installed a driver for connecting a X360 gamepad on your PC ?Bebi_vegeta

So the real question is 'why would a tournament organiser use the PC version of the game?'.  I can't think of one compelling reason to do so. 

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]There is a hitch, though. Online multiplayer is really problematic for fighting games, where any input lag at all can screw you over.lawlessx

These are all available for PC:

• Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition
• Street Fighter X Tekken
• Mortal Kombat Komplete Edition
• BlazBlue Calamity Trigger

And these are soon to be released for PC:

• Skullgirls
• Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 3

Also, all of these game will have better graphics and performance on even a moderately powerful gaming PC compared to any other platform.

Baurus_1

But how is the game itself actually better on the PC? Does the PC have better fighter balance? More characters? More stages? A enchanced control scheme? What does the PC version have of those games that the console versions do not have that actually improves the games themselves?

How do you have better performance when they all run at 60FPS?

How do you have better performance when they all run at 60FPS?

Blackbond

SF IV runs at way over 200fps for me...

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

How do you have better performance when they all run at 60FPS?

AMD655

SF IV runs at way over 200fps for me...

my favorite 2 aren't on PC .. UMVC3 and DoA5

It may be legit and that´s great,sadly though that´s a very niche genre and on the PC very few care about it,the reason why you don´t see them often on the platform,just like jrpg´s,almost no one gives a shit.MrYaotubo

the pc sucks for fighting games deal with it

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

How do you have better performance when they all run at 60FPS?

Lulu_Lulu

SF IV runs at way over 200fps for me...

3K res on my older PC with 1 480 maxed...

I know...

Insanity LOL.

It may be legit and that´s great,sadly though that´s a very niche genre and on the PC very few care about it,the reason why you don´t see them often on the platform,just like jrpg´s,almost no one gives a shit.MrYaotubo

and will control like crap unless you use a controller...

WilliamRLBaker

.....so?

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

How do you have better performance when they all run at 60FPS?

AMD655

SF IV runs at way over 200fps for me...

Yeah, my average framerate is 230.

I think you are completely wrong and here is why:

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Articuno76"] Say you are at an event where there is no internet (often there isn't). You plug in a controller and there are no drivers found on the machine. Then what?

Articuno76

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Why would someone go directly to an event with hardware they haven't set up already?  I think you missed the point.

Fighting games won't go anywhere on PC unless it has even more games, especially one of the biggest ones, UMVC3. Even if it had more fighting games, it won't go anywhere in the FGC since they wouldn't use PC's for tournaments.

Wow, that's a single GTX 480?  At 1080p my GTX 660 goes nowhere near that score.

Wow, that's a single GTX 480?  At 1080p my GTX 660 goes nowhere near that score.

dovberg

It is overclocked too, it performs in range of a 7870XT/ 7950.

Are you using an AMD CPU?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

and will control like crap unless you use a controller...

Nanomage

Fighting games won't go anywhere on PC unless it has even more games, especially one of the biggest ones, UMVC3. Even if it had more fighting games, it won't go anywhere in the FGC since they wouldn't use PC's for tournaments.

Lord_Omikron666

It was a solid platform for fighting games before if we count emulators and online middleware/communities like GGPO and Supercade.

However, several important fighters still miss the PC so you need a console system too if you're seriously into (modern) fighters and not limited to Capcom's and Midway's (or Warner Bros. now) offerings.