PC IS STRONG: PC Games Revenue Up 19%

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#1 RK-Mara
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We're all doomed! Time is running out! What will stop the death of PC games? Perhaps continuing to get bigger each year, with a 20% annual rise in revenue in the already enormous market could help. Once again, our favourite format failed to meet the expectations of the publishing industry, and went and sold billions of dollars worth of games. What is it like, eh? The PC Gaming Alliance (the scraps of it that remain, anyway) has published a "Horizons" report. Ahhhhhh, horizons. I feel like having a little weep of contentedness. In it they reveal that the PC market scored $16.2 billion in revenue in 2010. Sell your PS3, it is OUR DAY.More on Rock Paper Shotgun.
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on the other hand console gaming revenue declined. is console gaming dying?
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Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

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Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

CB4McGusto
Yes, it is a shame PC lost its ONLY exclusive, Crysis.
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that Farmville sure is popular

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#7 Lucianu
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Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

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90 exclusives coming for 2011

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#8 edidili
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on the other hand console gaming revenue declined. is console gaming dying?SamiRDuran

The fact that consoles are getting old have something to do with this I think. More and more peoples consider bying that multiplatform game for the pc.

When a new console is released everybody buys it and forgets about pc.

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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

Lucianu

90 exclusives coming for 2011

A bunch of indie games that nobody has even heard of. Over 3/4 of those games won't even get reviewed on a review site.
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Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

CB4McGusto
The PC is an open platform. There are too many exclusives to count.
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]on the other hand console gaming revenue declined. is console gaming dying?edidili

The fact that consoles are getting old have something to do with this I think. More and more peoples consider bying that multiplatform game for the pc.

When a new console is released everybody buys it and forgets about pc.

Pretty much. I may buy a new PC soon as I am tired of my crappy laptop, and I expect it to be more powerful gaming machine than consoles so I could game on it no problem and save more money on steam.
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]on the other hand console gaming revenue declined. is console gaming dying?edidili

The fact that consoles are getting old have something to do with this I think. More and more peoples consider bying that multiplatform game for the pc.

When a new console is released everybody buys it and forgets about pc.

To add to that this generation of gaming for consoles is per-longed as compared to previous gens. Majority of consumers already own a ps3 360 and wii. Not to mention that PC gamers buy more games as oppose to your average console gamer who buys probably about 3 to 4 games a year.
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

CB4McGusto

90 exclusives coming for 2011

A bunch of indie games that nobody has even heard of. Over 3/4 of those games won't even get reviewed on a review site.

And what exactly does that have to do with the fact that they exist?

We get 90 exclusives in 2011. And a good deal of them aren't from indie devs. I believe you need to reasses your definition of a indie dev.

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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

CB4McGusto

90 exclusives coming for 2011

A bunch of indie games that nobody has even heard of. Over 3/4 of those games won't even get reviewed on a review site.

Yes, I forgot that large scale marketing from a large publisher automatically makes a game worthwhile.
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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"] A bunch of indie games that nobody has even heard of. Over 3/4 of those games won't even get reviewed on a review site.

So anything that isn't hyped to heaven and back can't be any good? Being indie doesn't make the games any worse. Heck, indie developers are the force taking the industry forward. Without indie games we'd be stuck playing the twelfth incarnation of Call of Duty. And all of those games will get reviewed on a review site. Just not necessarily Gamespot. I don't even see that many indie titles on the list.
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

CB4McGusto

90 exclusives coming for 2011

A bunch of indie games that nobody has even heard of. Over 3/4 of those games won't even get reviewed on a review site.

"Over 3/4 of those games won't even get reviewed on Gamespot"

Fixed for you :)

And yet the PC will still likely finish with the best library and best exclusives for the year by GS.

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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"] A bunch of indie games that nobody has even heard of. Over 3/4 of those games won't even get reviewed on a review site.RK-Mara
So anything that isn't hyped to heaven and back can't be any good? Being indie doesn't make the games any worse. Heck, indie developers are the force taking the industry forward. Without indie games we'd be stuck playing the twelfth incarnation of Call of Duty. And all of those games will get reviewed on a review site. Just not necessarily Gamespot.

Having just finished playing King Arthur ($5 on steam sale) outside of RDR and ME2 it was better than any console game I played last year. How many consolites on here have even heard of it?
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Without a breakdown of which types of games made what that number is pretty useless. PC is much bigger when it comes to small and old games. The interesting number imo is revenue for $60 (or whatever they cost on PC) games released 2010
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Without a breakdown of which types of games made what that number is pretty useless. PC is much bigger when it comes to small and old games. The interesting number imo is revenue for $60 (or whatever they cost on PC) games released 2010 Sushiglutton
Last year almost no games cost $60 on the PC (outside of Activision), unfortunately EA has now jumped on that bandwagon.
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#20 Sushiglutton
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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

Lucianu

90 exclusives coming for 2011

Why are Hermits complaining about consolisation when u have 90+ games taking full advantage of the PC hardware? You play 100+ games/year?
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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]

90 exclusives coming for 2011

Lucianu

A bunch of indie games that nobody has even heard of. Over 3/4 of those games won't even get reviewed on a review site.

And what exactly does that have to do with the fact that they exist?

We get 90 exclusives in 2011. And a good deal of them aren't from indie devs. I believe you need to reasses your definition of a indie dev.



Oh haven't you heard? If it doesn't come from a first party developer with a 50M+ budget it doesn't count.

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Without a breakdown of which types of games made what that number is pretty useless. PC is much bigger when it comes to small and old games. The interesting number imo is revenue for $60 (or whatever they cost on PC) games released 2010 Sushiglutton
This is the kind of thing you get with an open platform and infinite backwards-compatibility. PC doesn't play by anyone's rules. It can be anyone's platform.
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Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

CB4McGusto
how is crysis a multiplat ?
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Without a breakdown of which types of games made what that number is pretty useless. PC is much bigger when it comes to small and old games. The interesting number imo is revenue for $60 (or whatever they cost on PC) games released 2010 blue_hazy_basic
Last year almost no games cost $60 on the PC (outside of Activision), unfortunately EA has now jumped on that bandwagon.

There is no way in hell I'm gonna support this trend. There is no reason why a digital download game in pc should cost 60$. There is no disc and packaging, nobody is paying sony or M$ and I can't sell or trade my game later on.

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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

badtaker
how is crysis a multiplat ?

Crysis 2 is, and PC gamers can't enjoy a multiplatform Crysis.
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Without a breakdown of which types of games made what that number is pretty useless. PC is much bigger when it comes to small and old games. The interesting number imo is revenue for $60 (or whatever they cost on PC) games released 2010 blue_hazy_basic
Last year almost no games cost $60 on the PC (outside of Activision), unfortunately EA has now jumped on that bandwagon.

That's why I wrote that parenthesis :). I mean "full priced" games. I think u know what I'm talking about. Pl help a none English speaker out here :).
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Without a breakdown of which types of games made what that number is pretty useless. PC is much bigger when it comes to small and old games. The interesting number imo is revenue for $60 (or whatever they cost on PC) games released 2010 edidili

Last year almost no games cost $60 on the PC (outside of Activision), unfortunately EA has now jumped on that bandwagon.

There is no way in hell I'm gonna support this trend. There is no reason why a digital download game in pc should cost 60$. There is no disc and packaging, nobody is paying sony or M$ and I can't sell or trade my game later on.

Buy them in the sales ... I still have a giant backlog of games from the last steam one. I'll still buy Shogun TW and DA2 day one, no matter what though :P
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Without a breakdown of which types of games made what that number is pretty useless. PC is much bigger when it comes to small and old games. The interesting number imo is revenue for $60 (or whatever they cost on PC) games released 2010 Sushiglutton
Last year almost no games cost $60 on the PC (outside of Activision), unfortunately EA has now jumped on that bandwagon.

That's why I wrote that parenthesis :). I mean "full priced" games. I think u know what I'm talking about. Pl help a none English speaker out here :).

I know what you were getting at and was just adding to it. Was annoyed to find out that EA are now charging $60 for DA2. There are so many great games on the PC that aren't "full price" ($50 or $60) because without having to pay licence fees to hardware manufacturers and keeping down dev costs, you can put out a game of stunning quality on a small budget.
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Without a breakdown of which types of games made what that number is pretty useless. PC is much bigger when it comes to small and old games. The interesting number imo is revenue for $60 (or whatever they cost on PC) games released 2010 dos4gw82
This is the kind of thing you get with an open platform and infinite backwards-compatibility. PC doesn't play by anyone's rules. It can be anyone's platform.

True, but I think most of us (maybe Im wrong about that) are interested in which platform is most profitable for "big-budget" games. This number says nothing about that.
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[QUOTE="dos4gw82"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Without a breakdown of which types of games made what that number is pretty useless. PC is much bigger when it comes to small and old games. The interesting number imo is revenue for $60 (or whatever they cost on PC) games released 2010 Sushiglutton
This is the kind of thing you get with an open platform and infinite backwards-compatibility. PC doesn't play by anyone's rules. It can be anyone's platform.

True, but I think most of us (maybe Im wrong about that) are interested in which platform is most profitable for "big-budget" games. This number says nothing about that.

and crysis outsold killzone 2 (both are "big-budget" games. )
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True, but I think most of us (maybe Im wrong about that) are interested in which platform is most profitable for "big-budget" games. This number says nothing about that.Sushiglutton
There's a reason why vast majority of big-budget games are multi-platform: big budget exclusives aren't very profitable.
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[QUOTE="badtaker"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="dos4gw82"] This is the kind of thing you get with an open platform and infinite backwards-compatibility. PC doesn't play by anyone's rules. It can be anyone's platform.

True, but I think most of us (maybe Im wrong about that) are interested in which platform is most profitable for "big-budget" games. This number says nothing about that.

and crysis outsold killzone 2 (both are "big-budget" games. )

And Crytek decided to go multiplat while KZ stayed exclusive. And RDR/Blops console etc outsold Crysis by a large margin. But that's not what this thread was about. My point is just that the 19% number is not an indication that publishers will/have moved towards PC, which I assume is what TC is hoping. However the constantly increasing tech gap between the platforms will most likely have that effect. This will put pressure on Sony/MS.
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Glad to see Facebook games are doing so well.

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Glad to see Facebook games are doing so well.

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Glad console gaming will soon be dominated by motion dance dance games.
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"] And Crytek decided to go multiplat while KZ stayed exclusive. And RDR/Blops console etc outsold Crysis by a large margin. But that's not what this thread was about. My point is just that the 19% number is not an indication that publishers will/have moved towards PC, which I assume is what TC is hoping. However the constantly increasing tech gap between the platforms will most likely have that effect. This will put pressure on Sony/MS.

You are assuming too much. I only provided a link and didn't insinuate in any way that console publishers are moving towards PC. I only wish for healthy discussion ;)
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]True, but I think most of us (maybe Im wrong about that) are interested in which platform is most profitable for "big-budget" games. This number says nothing about that.RK-Mara
There's a reason why vast majority of big-budget games are multi-platform: big budget exclusives aren't very profitable.

Also true. But u can still compare which platform made the most. For Blops I think console sales were ~95%. What we see is that big budget developers are adjusting their games for the console market (crysis 2, DA2 etc). However the tech gap may change that eventually. We'll wee what my fellow Swedes can do with BF3 :)!
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

CB4McGusto

90 exclusives coming for 2011

A bunch of indie games that nobody has even heard of. Over 3/4 of those games won't even get reviewed on a review site.

Do you know what Heroes of Newerth or League of Legends is?
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="badtaker"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"] True, but I think most of us (maybe Im wrong about that) are interested in which platform is most profitable for "big-budget" games. This number says nothing about that.

and crysis outsold killzone 2 (both are "big-budget" games. )

And Crytek decided to go multiplat while KZ stayed exclusive. And RDR/Blops console etc outsold Crysis by a large margin. But that's not what this thread was about. My point is just that the 19% number is not an indication that publishers will/have moved towards PC, which I assume is what TC is hoping. However the constantly increasing tech gap between the platforms will most likely have that effect. This will put pressure on Sony/MS.

guerrilla games are owned by sony Insomniac also decided to went multi why ? because resistance sales were weaker ?
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Glad to see Facebook games are doing so well.

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Glad console gaming will soon be dominated by motion dance dance games.

Gotcha! ;)

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Thought PC gamign was dead though like all the haters been saying? :P

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Thought PC gamign was dead though like all the haters been saying? :P

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Yes. Politically correct gaming is dead. How is this so hard to understand?

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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]

Glad to see Facebook games are doing so well.

blue_hazy_basic

Glad console gaming will soon be dominated by motion dance dance games.

no it's getting worse :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqGOJEpTR4A

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Well I read that in the Heavy's voice and lol'd.
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#44 haberman13
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Consoles died the second they released motion controls and started competing with the Wii (trying at least).

PC has ALWAYS been the place to "truly" game ... consoles are nice for casuals, but come on.

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#45 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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I've said it before and I will say it again. I don't believe PC gaming is dying, but PC game revenue is not directly connected to PC Game sales. It includes all kind of other revenue sources that do not include just sales. As somebody already pointedout, somebody spending money in farmville is going to count in this total. MMORPG subscriptions like World of Warcraft will count as well. So does revenue made from in game advertising.

ANd does things like the new App store on Mac count? Does someone paying $1 for a fart machine app count toward "games revenue"?

PC gaming is doing just fine, and there is money to be made. However, there is a reason that bragging about PC gaming revenue never stops the haters from saying PC gaming is declining. There is really no connection between sales and revenue anymore. Sales can technically go down but revenue still go up because there are more ways to make money.

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#46 haberman13
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I've said it before and I will say it again. I don't believe PC gaming is dying, but PC game revenue is not directly connected to PC Game sales. It includes all kind of other revenue sources that do not include just sales. As somebody already pointedout, somebody spending money in farmville is going to count in this total. MMORPG subscriptions like World of Warcraft will count as well. So does revenue made from in game advertising.

ANd does things like the new App store on Mac count? Does someone paying $1 for a fart machine app count toward "games revenue"?

PC gaming is doing just fine, and there is money to be made. However, there is a reason that bragging about PC gaming revenue never stops the haters from saying PC gaming is declining. There is really no connection between sales and revenue anymore. Sales can technically go down but revenue still go up because there are more ways to make money.

ZIMdoom

This argument applies to consoles as well. Peripherals, PSN store, game rentals, used sales, etc. etc.

PC gaming reigns, nothing will change that. We are however in the middle of the worst game dev cycle in history with these multiplat abominations. In 2 years when the current consoles are literally dying of old age people will have a choice: buy another 360 or get a PC - I think most will opt for PC. (unless they are in high school still)

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#47 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

Lucianu

90 exclusives coming for 2011

85 of them are crap though.
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#48 cobrax55
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

Last time I checked Crysis is now multi-platform not the other way around so..................

Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PC revenue aka sales

Mozelleple112

90 exclusives coming for 2011

85 of them are crap though.

You havent even heard of any of them? How are you supposed to know?

Like every other year, the PC will dominate in exclusives this year.

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#49 Wii4Fun
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Consoles died the second they released motion controls and started competing with the Wii (trying at least).

PC has ALWAYS been the place to "truly" game ... consoles are nice for casuals, but come on.

haberman13

You can't 'truly' game on consoles? :o

Mind = Blown!!!

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#50 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]

90 exclusives coming for 2011

cobrax55

85 of them are crap though.

You havent even heard of any of them? How are you supposed to know?

Like every other year, the PC will dominate in exclusives this year.

85 crappy games, ~ 3 good games and 2 great games =/= winning a year. I'd take ~5 good games ~ 3 great games over that ANYDAY