PC is superior to PS3, Wii, 360

Just my opinion, but I'd like to hear if anyone can propose five or ten valid arguments supporting how the PS3, Wii, or 360 is superior.

Also, before you use the "PC costs 4000 dollars" argument, don't even bother. If you build your own PC (it's very easy) instead of buying some overpriced Alienware "Gaming PC" you could easily have one that is able to play Crysis very well for under 700 dollars. That would also be an investment, considering you would only need to upgrade select parts of the PC every several years, for example the graphics card, rather than paying another large amount of money for a new next gen console.

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I love PC gaming as much as the next guy but this whole superiority complex hermits have is really annoying

But PC costs 4000 dollars!IronBass

Basically everyone will agree with you. You'll get the odd "I don't like the controls" BS or "I like sitting on the sofa to play games" crap but those are completely invalid. On your own, pure gaming "me" time, this is the best choice. If you want party games buy monopoly or get high and watch Dr Who. Games are for unwinding not socialising.

Edit: actually, this is fine so long as its in context :| For example at a party you shouldn't duck for cover at the 360 unless the party sucks and you're bored. That is really adouchey thing to do its like a clique or something.

Well that much is obvious. It's not too everybody's tastes though.

I love PC gaming as much as the next guy but this whole superiority complex hermits have is really annoying

chikenfriedrice

Newsflash? :shock:

KZ2 is still the best game ever.

Graphics(if you have a decent rig)

PC>>>>>>>>>consoles

Games(Exclusive games) I play multi-plats on my pc

PC

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I love PC gaming as much as the next guy but this whole superiority complex hermits have is really annoying

LittleHands134

All these threads do is stir up unneeded trouble and debates that were already settled...

Graphics(if you have a decent rig)

PC>>>>>>>>>consoles

Games(Exclusive games) I play multi-plats on my pc

PC

tontontam0

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Games

consoles >>PC

Games are for unwinding not socialising.clembo1990

[QUOTE="clembo1990"]Games are for unwinding not socialising.shaggygrosser

For the most part, console games just work. Pop the disc in the drive, and the game plays. One big reason I got out of PC gaming was the driver conflicts, updates, and patching. And don't even start with the Godawful DRM like SecuROM. disclaimer: I'll admit patching for consoles is more common this generation, but at least it's a bit more seamless (and less common) than the PC variety.shaggygrosser

I see what you mean, but at the same time I enjoy the trade off that I get on the PC because of the extra work. For example, look at Fallout 3, that's a game that requires a lot of updates and most of the time you actually have to go to the Fallout 3 site and download the needed update, install it yourself, update drivers if needed, etc. It's a bit of a hassle, but with the PC version I have access to hundreds upon hundreds of hours of added player created mod content that I wouldn't be able to play if I was on the PS3 or the 360. This also applies to a lot of other games, for example Morrowind and Oblivion, both also on the consoles.

[QUOTE="shaggygrosser"]For the most part, console games just work. Pop the disc in the drive, and the game plays. One big reason I got out of PC gaming was the driver conflicts, updates, and patching. And don't even start with the Godawful DRM like SecuROM. disclaimer: I'll admit patching for consoles is more common this generation, but at least it's a bit more seamless (and less common) than the PC variety.LittleHands134

I see what you mean, but at the same time I enjoy the trade off that I get on the PC because of the extra work. For example, look at Fallout 3, that's a game that requires a lot of updates and most of the time you actually have to go to the Fallout 3 site and download the needed update, install it yourself, update drivers if needed, etc. It's a bit of a hassle, but with the PC version I have access to hundreds upon hundreds of hours of added player created mod content that I wouldn't be able to play if I was on the PS3 or the 360. This also applies to a lot of other games, for example Morrowind and Oblivion, both also on the consoles.

i'm pretty sure we all know this. hell, the only reason i play ps3/360 is for exclusives, i pretty much always buy multiplats on pc.

you have to maintance a pc, every so often you have to upgrade it. Also on a weely you have to scan for viruses and spyware, which could take a few hours if you have a lot of files. Also the game your going to buy requires you to look up your pc status before you buy it and even then you dont know how well its going to work. EmperorZeruel

Yes, we know already.

you have to maintance a pc, every so often you have to upgrade it. Also on a weely you have to scan for viruses and spyware, which could take a few hours if you have a lot of files. Also the game your going to buy requires you to look up your pc status before you buy it and even then you dont know how well its going to work. EmperorZeruel

you have to maintance a pc, every so often you have to upgrade it. Also on a weely you have to scan for viruses and spyware, which could take a few hours if you have a lot of files. Also the game your going to buy requires you to look up your pc status before you buy it and even then you dont know how well its going to work. EmperorZeruel

I'd compare the major hardware upgrades to about the same as getting a new console, only a lot cheaper. I've been using my 8800 graphics card for awhile now, and it's still able to run any game I've tossed at it, I don't see myself really needing another upgrade for a while. With consoles it's about the same time too, every few years you buy a new console if you want to play newer games. A new console could be over 300 dollars, but most graphics cards are well below that.

Virus scans can be annoying, but I don't see them as too different than a console update for example, and even so you can just leave your computer on over night and specify on the virus scanner schedule to only run while you would be asleep, that's what I do.

As for the being able to play games on your PC, you can just go to this site http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest and put in the game you're interested in, it'll automatically scan your PC and tell you if you're able to play it on both the minimum and recommend settings, then it will tell you what specific parts of your PC need to be updated/upgraded to play it.

Well consoles are better for you and your friends sitting down on the couch EmperorZeruel

[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]you have to maintance a pc, every so often you have to upgrade it. Also on a weely you have to scan for viruses and spyware, which could take a few hours if you have a lot of files. Also the game your going to buy requires you to look up your pc status before you buy it and even then you dont know how well its going to work. thegoldenpoo

But PC costs 4000 dollars!IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"]But PC costs 4000 dollars!Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="IronBass"]But PC costs 4000 dollars!IronBass

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]you have to maintance a pc, every so often you have to upgrade it. Also on a weely you have to scan for viruses and spyware, which could take a few hours if you have a lot of files. Also the game your going to buy requires you to look up your pc status before you buy it and even then you dont know how well its going to work. EmperorZeruel

Just my opinion, but I'd like to hear if anyone can propose five or ten valid arguments supporting how the PS3, Wii, or 360 is superior.

Also, before you use the "PC costs 4000 dollars" argument, don't even bother. If you build your own PC (it's very easy) instead of buying some overpriced Alienware "Gaming PC" you could easily have one that is able to play Crysis very well for under 700 dollars. That would also be an investment, considering you would only need to upgrade select parts of the PC every several years, for example the graphics card, rather than paying another large amount of money for a new next gen console.

LittleHands134

eh, i'd take console anyday but thats just my opinion.

Just my opinion, but I'd like to hear if anyone can propose five or ten valid arguments supporting how the PS3, Wii, or 360 is superior.

Also, before you use the "PC costs 4000 dollars" argument, don't even bother. If you build your own PC (it's very easy) instead of buying some overpriced Alienware "Gaming PC" you could easily have one that is able to play Crysis very well for under 700 dollars. That would also be an investment, considering you would only need to upgrade select parts of the PC every several years, for example the graphics card, rather than paying another large amount of money for a new next gen console.

LittleHands134

It's as simple as many of the games I have been playing for the last 15 years do not end up on the PC. As soon as I plug a controller into my PC I always feel like I would rather be out on my couch playing the game on my 46 LCD HDTV Samsung. Case and point, FFXI. I had both versions (PC and PS2) and I ended up playing the PS2 version 75% of the time. The PC version was WAY better graphically and faster to load but I loved my PS2 logitech keyboard, my couch, and my big screen TV. I really only played the PC version when the living room was being used.

Besides, many games do not work as well on the PC like sports, racing, fighting, and music games. These are more suited for consoles with specific controls.

I still do have to say on the other hand, X-Com: UFO Defense ftw!

As true as that is, I still have to wonder why it's never gottena 10 in any of the generations.

You get what you pay for, that's pretty much all there is to it.

It gets annoying when people think their platform is a exception to this rule.

It's as simple as many of the games I have been playing for the last 15 years do not end up on the PC. As soon as I plug a controller into my PC I always feel like I would rather be out on my couch playing the game on my 46 LCD HDTV Samsung. Case and point, FFXI. I had both versions (PC and PS2) and I ended up playing the PS2 version 75% of the time. The PC version was WAY better graphically and faster to load but I loved my PS2 logitech keyboard, my couch, and my big screen TV. I really only played the PC version when the living room was being used.

Besides, many games do not work as well on the PC like sports, racing, fighting, and music games. These are more suited for consoles with specific controls.

I still do have to say on the other hand, X-Com: UFO Defense ftw!

CoheedIV

Yep. Frankly, it's much more comfortable for me to sit on the couch in my living room (or dorm room) playing on a 42' TV rather than sitting at my desk hunched over looking at my 15' computer screen. Just objectively speaking from a comfort standpoint, I'd prever using the couch and big-screen.

But one huge difference between PC games and console games is local multiplayer. I can call some friends over to play Smash Bros., Halo 3, or Call of Duty 4 and we can all play in the same room together on the same screen. PC games basically don't have that. And sure, while you can play one another via LAN play, that basically requires each person to have a properly configured (and preferably portable) computer, a copy of the game (or CD key, at least), and a good internet connection. It's the same reason that I find multiplayer portable gaming prohibitive - everyone has to have the handheld and sometimes the game also, which in my experience doesn't happen that often.

It's so much easier to just pop in a disk, toss controllers to your friends and start playing. Which is another thing I like about consoles - they take about 20 seconds to turn on and start playing. It takes my computer a good 5 minutes to fully turn on and start loading Spore, which is downright inconvenient if I really just need a 20-minute Guitar Hero fix.

And like CoheedIV said, there are some types of games that just work better on consoles than PCs - in the same way that some games work better on PCs than consoles, like real-time strategies, simulation games, or FPS games (though when The Conduit comes out, I'll probably argue otherwise). Racing games, fighting games, and action/adventure games in particular come to mind - anything particularly tactile.

I don't know why anyone would choose to play a console version of The Sims over the PC version, for example. And I love my PC for playing the Roller Coaster Tycoon games. They provide different experiences. So to say that PCs are better as an overall platform than consoles, or vice versa, is rather short-sighted. It depends on what kind of gaming experience you're looking for.

[QUOTE="shaggygrosser"]For the most part, console games just work. Pop the disc in the drive, and the game plays. One big reason I got out of PC gaming was the driver conflicts, updates, and patching. And don't even start with the Godawful DRM like SecuROM. disclaimer: I'll admit patching for consoles is more common this generation, but at least it's a bit more seamless (and less common) than the PC variety.LittleHands134

I see what you mean, but at the same time I enjoy the trade off that I get on the PC because of the extra work. For example, look at Fallout 3, that's a game that requires a lot of updates and most of the time you actually have to go to the Fallout 3 site and download the needed update, install it yourself, update drivers if needed, etc. It's a bit of a hassle, but with the PC version I have access to hundreds upon hundreds of hours of added player created mod content that I wouldn't be able to play if I was on the PS3 or the 360. This also applies to a lot of other games, for example Morrowind and Oblivion, both also on the consoles.

Nah, PCs are kinda lame. They're really expensive (like 7k or more if you want to run Crysis on High) and all the games have tons of bugs. Like, Stalker for example. Hermits keep praising that **** but i can't even play it cause the bugs are pouring out my triple sli GTX 295. I can't even max it. Same with The Witcher. You can't even customize your character in that game, unlike in Fallout 3, which plays better on my 360 and in HD, which PCs aren't even capable of. Like what if i don't want to play as a pale ass white boy? That's stupid. Not to mention i cant sit in my bed and play games.AAllxxjjnn

*ragequit* I hope this is parody.clembo1990

The PC cannot do HD part makes it parody in my eyes, though I have seen sincere posts that stupid before.

[QUOTE="clembo1990"]

*ragequit* I hope this is parody.

The PC cannot do HD part makes it parody in my eyes, though I have seen sincere posts that stupid before.

Yep. Frankly, it's much more comfortable for me to sit on the couch in my living room (or dorm room) playing on a 42' TV rather than sitting at my desk hunched over looking at my 15' computer screen. Just objectively speaking from a comfort standpoint, I'd prever using the couch and big-screen.

PoindeJ

So... Whats stopping you from hooking a PC up to your TV or projector? Just because you dont want to, doesnt mean you can't. You certainly have the option.

But one huge difference between PC games and console games is local multiplayer. I can call some friends over to play Smash Bros., Halo 3, or Call of Duty 4 and we can all play in the same room together on the same screen. PC games basically don't have that. And sure, while you can play one another via LAN play, that basically requires each person to have a properly configured (and preferably portable) computer, a copy of the game (or CD key, at least), and a good internet connection. It's the same reason that I find multiplayer portable gaming prohibitive - everyone has to have the handheld and sometimes the game also, which in my experience doesn't happen that often.PoindeJ

You may have had a point last generation, but given the rarity of local multiplayer in console games today, you are actually more likely to find local multiplayer in PC games than console games.

It's so much easier to just pop in a disk, toss controllers to your friends and start playing. Which is another thing I like about consoles - they take about 20 seconds to turn on and start playing. It takes my computer a good 5 minutes to fully turn on and start loading Spore, which is downright inconvenient if I really just need a 20-minute Guitar Hero fix.PoindeJ

Thats odd. I always thought it was alot easier to not even bother popping in a disc and jsut running the game right form your hard drive. i recommend using "sleep mode" since that makes your PC back to functioning condition in about 10 seconds.

And like CoheedIV said, there are some types of games that just work better on consoles than PCs - in the same way that some games work better on PCs than consoles, like real-time strategies, simulation games, or FPS games (though when The Conduit comes out, I'll probably argue otherwise). Racing games, fighting games, and action/adventure games in particular come to mind - anything particularly tactile.PoindeJ

Not really. PC has access to every input possible, consoles are limited to a handful of different input types. SF4 on PC? No problem. A Total War game on a console? Dont even dream it.

I don't know why anyone would choose to play a console version of The Sims over the PC version, for example. And I love my PC for playing the Roller Coaster Tycoon games. They provide different experiences. So to say that PCs are better as an overall platform than consoles, or vice versa, is rather short-sighted. It depends on what kind of gaming experience you're looking for.

PoindeJ

Nope. PC > Consoles. Its a fact.

Maybe when Diablo 3 comes out, but not now.

Times are great on PC when Blizzard is releasing a steady stream of quality titles, but when they aren't, PC is filled with boringly gorgeous FPS and buggy crap.

Here's a few that tend to annoy me:

1. Games are often glitchy to a fair extent, much more so than consoles. Patches help a fair bit, but alot of the time they just don't. (Though that's usually because your using Windows Vista. Well not really, but it's a great thing to blame all your problems on because it really does suck, and I do have one problem related to Vista right now aswell.)

2. Installs can be quite long and they occasionally fail. That can be very frustrating. PS3 has some mandatory installs, but they arn't too bad in comparison.

3. PCs are very expensive, perhaps not so much in the US, but for me to upgrade my current PC to console levels it's going to cost me more than a PS3 and that's without a Blu-Ray player.

4. Hard Drive space can be a real pain, though not much of a problem now as hard drives are pretty massive now. PS3s also have this issues, but seeing as installs are farily fast and the hard drive is upgradeable it isn't a big problem in either case.

5. PC dosn't get quite as many great new exclusives as it used to, infact most of the best are from eastern europe now. (And I don't need a super PC to play most games from before 2005.)

6. There's a bit too much emphasis on RTS with the PC. Not a big fan of RTS, and alot of genres don't work quite aswell on computers without adapting the system with peripherals such as with fighting and racing games. However the wired 360 controller can be useful if you have one, or just any other gamepad mimicking a console controller.

7 Quite a few compability issues with PC games seeing as there is so much equipment out there. This is usually a problem if you tend to buy cheap components, like strange sound cards that don't really seem to exsist anymore. You also get this with old games, even with compatability mode. Tried to play Borken Sword recently, that failed :(.

8. Computer systems are much more likely to be infected by viruses which can be a bit of a problem.

9. It's fairly difficult to keep track of current technology with PCs. For example I have no real idea what the best processor to buy in terms of value is for a gaming PC now, seeing as it keeps changing all the time.

10. Not a great system for local multiplayer. I'm sure it might be possible through mods and a bit of dedication though.

There are quite few reasons but really what it comes down to is that with the PC everything takes alot more effort. Alot of the time it isn't worth it if you arn't quite that much into gaming.

:)

[QUOTE="clembo1990"]

*ragequit* I hope this is parody.AnnoyedDragon

The PC cannot do HD part makes it parody in my eyes, though I have seen sincere posts that stupid before.