PC needs another high quality strategy game.

For me, there has been one genre that comes to mind when I think of PC and that is strategy games. Years ago the PC was flooded with high quality/high scoring strategy games. Dawn of War 2, Civ 5, Total War: Shogun 2, Galactic Civilizations, and X-Com. The list can go on. Now, most strategy games are met with a luke warm reception. Look no further than Civ Beyond Earth and Galactic Civilizations 3 for proof.

Those games stood out and could not be played anywhere else. PC players once were able to call something their own. Now, they rely on saying they have, "superior multiplats."

How do you feel about a once mighty genre falling to its knees? Can it be saved with X-Com 2 and Total War: Warhammer or is the genre doomed, leaving the PC without a identity?

Halo Wars 2 is coming, hermits can have my scraps. I'm not selfish.

he said "high quality"

Creative Assembly is not high quality?

If they have to gimp it to work on consoles, then I don't think it is really "high quality"

Also, how is it "scraps" when it was announced on both platforms

@uninspiredcup I like a few of their games, but you are correct. They are full of fluff.

Edit; He deleted his rant about a mediocre developer.

I found Wargame: Red Dragon pretty cool (super harsh learning curve though). I think it went for a more realistic modern military thing that mostly works.

Relic is working on a secret project. Hopefully we'll hear about that soon. Next month Starcraft 2: Legacy of the void is coming out. Very excited for it. Next year, Total War: Warhammer, XCom 2, Endless Space 2, Battlefleet: Gothic Armada, Ashes of Singularity and probably Homeworld: Shipbreakers. Paradox is also working on Stellaris, Space Grand Strategy.

But yeah, we need more RTS. I wish Sega had bought Massive, then would've new Ground Control or World in Conflict. Ubisoft just uses them to work on AC, Far Cry and Dumbed down shooter, The Division.

Battletech - kickstarter project - TBS mech - 2017

The Mandate - kickstarter project -space RTS + RPG + TBS boarding ops - 2016

Shallow Space - 3D space RTS - early access Oct 2015

Call To Arms - modern age tactical RTS - early access 2015

Cossacks 3 - RTS - TBA

Satellite Reign - just released - syndicate type tactical rts

@cinematicgalore: came to post this lol

You have to realise all the big publishers downright killing off their strategy devs (MS-Ensemble) or redirecting them to other stuff (MS-Lionhead, Ubisoft-Massive). Because big publishers simply would never make a high budget strategy game exclusive for PC anymore.

The only one that still does is Sega with Total War and Company of Heroes.

The last high quality strategy game we got was Act of Aggression. I think it looks great and I don't think the big budget RTS or strategy games will ever make a return.

Most of you are posting games that lack the critic praise and budget I'm speaking of. What happened to the games with a 90 on metacritic? The game to puff tour chest over?

@Cloud_imperium: I really hope X-Com 2 and Warhammer deliver.

Yeah me too. XCom 2 looks amazing. Warhammer will be a kick ass game, provided CA gets enough time to polish it. You should also keep an eye on Cossacks 3. It's being made by GSC Game World. The guys, who made STALKER.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuBqg9fDhKU

Cossacks is insanely hard, like impossibly hard. Like Ninja-Gaiden on NES hard but as a RTS game...

He said high quality.

I wasn't aware the genre was in trouble on the PC.

It's not like the genre reinvents itself or makes big chances anymore.

The way strategy games play is pretty much set in stone. I don't see 90+ scoring strategy games on PC any time soon.

It's not, it's just not as big as it once was.

Hearts of iron 4

Act of Aggression?

Battle Realms was one of the few RTS that was really innovative. Shame it didn't get any attention.

That's another thing: smaller strategy games that do try new stuff in the genre get even less attention than traditional strategy games.

Indeed.

All that comes to mind is xcom2.

I was keen on galciv3 but those reviews...

I'm a PC gamer and I don't really like Strategy games, so I don't care. I've always thought PC got too many of them.

Talking about upcoming games. BTW Homeworld Shipbreakers looked really great. Hopefully Gearbox won't force Black Bird Interactive to rush it. I can see the potential. Even when it was called "Hardware Shipbreakers", it looked a lot like Homeworld, both in art style, cutscenes and gameplay. And now it's officially a Homeworld game, prequel to HW 1.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgylViCFHAs

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmcSMAuo8OI

Lol at the morons that think high quality strategy games and finacially sucessfull Strategy games have anything to do with budget or advertising exposure..idiots

*looks over at Strategy game collection" - wow that a lot

"looks at the ones left to be played" - wow thats alot

"looks at the ones console gamers would probably never have heard of" - wow thats a lot

"Looks at the ones waiting to come out" - wow thats alot

"Looks at this thread" HAHAHAHAHA - couldnt agree less.

Interesting. My mentally deficient, 7 year old nephew also likes Halo Wars.

The games getting posted are better games than the games that score 90 on metacritic that you are thinking of.

Budgets for strategy games aren't the same as with first person shooters or generally console action games. And no one gives a shit about metacritic.

You don't know what you're talking about. If you were interested in strategy games, you would know that there is plenty to play with now and in the future for the rest of your life.

Yeah... but supreme commander is just sooo good. Now with FAF (Forged Alliance Forever), it's like..... why bother even trying new RTS games.

Could always use more turn-based RPGs though.

as long as Relic and CA keep doing there thing its enough for me. I can put endless hours into their games.

I'd love another WiC but that wont happen. I've kinda lost interest in traditional RTS like Starcraft/Grey Goo/Act of Aggression

That's the problem. The market is over saturated with strategy games that simply aren't good.

Which games are you playing that aren't good?

-High Quality

-Strategy Game/PC Game

Pick one.

Stellaris is my bet for the next high quality rts game outside of the normal blizzard/ca games we all known and love.

It's a space game made by the guys that make Crusader Kings.

https://www.paradoxplaza.com/stellaris

Relics secret project is probably Dawn of War 3. Which would also be great especially if they take it back to DOW 1s roots. I wasn't a huge fan of DoW 2 it basically plays pretty much like A dumbed down Company of Heroes. I miss the huge battles in the original DoW

@PurpleMan5000: Galactic Civilizations 3, Beyond Earth, Grey Goo, etc. etc. There are a ton of strategy games, but none have been that captivating or garnered praise from critics(this is system wars).

Civilization V, Homeworld, and Homeworld 2 are high quality PC strategy games. They meet three of your two criteria..... How'd that happen?

the entire purpose of that account is to troll

@lostrib:

So like you, except your purpose is to cry and whine.

@lostrib: Oh I know. I was hoping to get a BS response for giggles.

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@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

@lostrib:

So like you, except your purpose is to cry and whine.

I saw her naked and had mayonnaise on her face.

@lostrib said:

@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

@lostrib said:

@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

@lostrib:

So like you, except your purpose is to cry and whine.

I saw her naked and had mayonnaise on her face.

Pff don't act like you didn't see those leaks :D

I have my hopes up for Total War: Warhammer.

I also didn't like Dawn of War 2, much. It was still a great game, like 8-8.5/10 imo, but it's not "Relic great" which is always like 9-10/10. Would love to see Dawn of War 3, going back to its roots. Or they can simply merge both style of gameplays.

Give us huge battles in normal missions and then fill some gaps with search and rescue missions where you only control handful of troops like in Dawn of War 2. Kinda like Starcraft 2 where in some missions you only control small number of units (like secret mission in Wings of Liberty or second last mission where you fill enemy base with lava) and most of the time you are in control of big armies.

To be fair, Civilization: Beyond Earth was pretty much like a Civ 5 mod. I'd rather just play Civ 5...

I'd love to get into the Total War franchise, but I don't think I have the hardware for it.