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http://www.gfkrt.com/news_events/market_news/single_sites/003087/index.en.html

PC still finding favour with today's serious gamer

PC Gaming market

20 October 2008
United Kingdom, Entertainment

The UK gaming market is big business, or more specifically the accessories and input device sector. The first six months of 2008 has witnessed strong sales of over 3.5 million units worth in excess of £85 million. Further encouragement has come in the form of indicators that these figures are only going to grow stronger in the future.

Serious gamers will favour the PC. Research revealed by GfK Retail and Technology shows that the PC gaming market continues to perform well in 2008, with over £3.5 million spent in 2008 on dedicated PC gaming input devices such as mice, keyboards, joysticks and game pads. The range of gaming peripherals available to consumers continues to expand.

Aside from the traditional gaming staples of high-end mice, keyboards and graphics cards, PC gamers can exploit the versatility of their systems and choose to buy products ranging from controllers through to high-end gaming chairs sporting built in force feedback, microphones and surround sound to enhance their experience. Conversely, whilst PC gaming is more open to improving the speed and performance of the PC, consoles remain somewhat restricted and more difficult to expand from their base configurations.

This is not to say that the console gamer can't engage in a little 'pimping'. When looking at the total gaming devices market, over 95% of total devices sold are destined for use with a console. However, the majority of these devices are simply additional controllers required to experience existing multiplayer features inherent to living room gaming.

Nevertheless, there are still add-ons which are used to help enhance gaming enjoyment, such as gaming chairs. These have seen sales dwindle after a strong Christmas period and as a whole remain a rather niche product due to their rather high average selling price, in the region of £76. Whilst this may not seem to be expensive, the general sentiment of gamers seems to be that they would rather spend their money elsewhere. Despite this, over £1 million has been spent on these chairs in 2008.

In contrast to consoles, one of the key benefits of PC gaming for most consumers is the ability to expand and improve their gaming system with component upgrades such as RAM, graphics cards and other related products. As games become more graphically complex and processor intensive, gamers are upgrading their systems to ensure that the optimum performance and experience can be achieved. GfK figures reveal significant increases in the sales of these products over the first 6 months 2008, compared to the same period in 2007. Sales of RAM grew by 34% in terms of volume with graphic card volume growth up 15%, totalling over £20 million for graphic cards.

GfK Account Manager Sean Fellows comments that "Contrary to popular belief since the introduction of online gaming for consoles, PC gaming still remains strong with some long awaited titles hitting the market in the forth coming months. To ensure that gamers get the best experience possible you can be sure that they will be pimping their PCs".

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Welcome to Europe.
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#3 Hexagon_777
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Welcome to Europe.RK-Mara

Someone needs to sing the European Union anthem now.

And regarding that article...Sounds awesome. Seems like PC gaming is only dying on System Wars, which is a good thing. Can't wait to build a rig.

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Dedicated PC gaming devices like mice and keyboards! lol. :D
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serious gamer? Its a game, its suposed to be fun, not serious. elitist bastards. trasherhead

oooh dear, there's no time for jokes when you're a serious gamer!

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"Someone needs to sing the European Union anthem now."

Freude, schöner Götterfunken,

Tochter aus Elysium!

Wir betreten feuertrunken,

Himmlische, Dein Heiligtum.

Deine Zauber binden wieder,

Was die Mode streng geteilt,

Alle Menschen werden Brüder,

Wo Dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

(C) by Friedrich Schiller

althrough the official anthem uses no lyrics...

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althrough the official anthem uses no lyrics...

Enosh88

That's because you won't get a non-german to sing in German.

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serious gamer? Its a game, its suposed to be fun, not serious. elitist bastards. trasherhead

Thats what serious gaming means

And there are even higher prices (up to 40 000$ if im not mistaken)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zgXFk5prME

Check that out

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[QUOTE="trasherhead"]serious gamer? Its a game, its suposed to be fun, not serious. elitist bastards. Lidve

Thats what serious gaming means

And there are even higher prices (up to 40 000$ if im not mistaken)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zgXFk5prME

Check that out

I would feel so corrupted if I earned a living playing video games for the rest of my life.

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[QUOTE="Enosh88"]

althrough the official anthem uses no lyrics...

RK-Mara

That's because you won't get a non-german to sing in German.

yeah kinda the whole point of it^^ but on the other hand I am a non german and would sing it in german :P (but I am probably a minority)

althrough some austrian guy did make lyrics for it in latin, which might actualy be a good language for it, but the lyrics are crap :D

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pc gaming is serious stuff. they always spend money on new video cards that r out,, i say that is serious.
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Dedicated PC gaming devices like mice and keyboards! lol. :DMakari

Why is that funny? kb/m > than controller for more games than not.

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[QUOTE="Makari"]Dedicated PC gaming devices like mice and keyboards! lol. :DCaptain__Tripps

Why is that funny? kb/m > than controller for more games than not.

How many computers do you see being used without keyboards? How about mice? I don't think a keyboard counts as a 'dedicated PC gaming device' any more than... oh I don't know, a monitor does. Sure, 99% of PC gamers will use them to play, but that's because you need one to use a computer at all in the first place.
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serious gamer? Its a game, its suposed to be fun, not serious. elitist bastards. trasherhead

It's System Wars. It's supposed to be fun, not serious. Calm down.

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[QUOTE="trasherhead"]serious gamer? Its a game, its suposed to be fun, not serious. elitist bastards. Lidve

Thats what serious gaming means

And there are even higher prices (up to 40 000$ if im not mistaken)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zgXFk5prME

Check that out

Cause that's how I want to make a living :roll:
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I never understand why people think the PC is a dead format...
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[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"]

[QUOTE="Makari"]Dedicated PC gaming devices like mice and keyboards! lol. :DMakari

Why is that funny? kb/m > than controller for more games than not.

How many computers do you see being used without keyboards? How about mice? I don't think a keyboard counts as a 'dedicated PC gaming device' any more than... oh I don't know, a monitor does. Sure, 99% of PC gamers will use them to play, but that's because you need one to use a computer at all in the first place.

I think they are talking about GAMING DEDICATED mouse and keyboard,there is like "normal" cheap mouse you get with pc,

and there is something like this

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Cause that's how I want to make a living :roll:mo0ksi

I know. I mean, what do you get out of it? It's a very unfulfilling life. Do you really want to end up on your deathbed and think:

"Wow. My greatest achievement was beating Tossgirl in Starcraft II"

Creating video games is one thing. Playing it to earn money is something different altogether.

I never understand why people think the PC is a dead format...Wasdie

To be fair, it doesn't get all the glitz and glamour marketing consoles get. I also think the reason devs and publishers usually say that it's lost its golden age is because they want the immediate sales like a console gets.

Getting money now > getting money over a few years, even if the latter accumulates way more.

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Cause that's how I want to make a living :roll:mo0ksi

Whats wrong with that?

If you can make a living by playing games than HELL YES!

Having fun + earning money? is there something bether?

But being pro gamer takes lot of dedication and practice,and sometimes,people tend to forget why do they play games and they play them just to earn money

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I never understand why people think the PC is a dead format...Wasdie

Because it is. Sometimes you just have to accept it Wasdie. Even if it brings you great pain.

Oh I know. Come here. *Shhh* Shhh* Let me sing you a lullaby. There there.

There. All better now?

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#22 Lidve
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I know. I mean, what do you get out of it? It's a very unfulfilling life. Do you really want to end up on your deathbed and think:

"Wow. My greatest achievement was beating Tossgirl in Starcraft II"

Creating video games is one thing. Playing it to earn money is something different altogether.

FrozenLiquid

At least you have some achievment,in some countries like Korea you are verry popular,it is like Sport,actualy it is Sport (chess being game and sport)

What is your best achievment with regular job?

Washing dishes after some important customer or mybe selling 2 soda drinks in row? :roll:

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]Cause that's how I want to make a living :roll:Lidve

Whats wrong with that?

If you can make a living by playing games than HELL YES!

Having fun + earning money? is there something bether?

But being pro gamer takes lot of dedication and practice,and sometimes,people tend to forget why do they play games and they play them just to earn money

It's shameful. I would much rather have a respectable career than to center my life on playing video games competitively.

It's a disgrace compared to real sports that require a lot more dedication.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I never understand why people think the PC is a dead format...Locke562

Because it is. Sometimes you just have to accept it Wasdie. Even if it brings you great pain.

If this is dead i dont know what would happen if it was "alive" :roll:

Total AAAA (# exclusive)

  • PS3: 2 (1)
  • 360: 1 (0)

Total AAA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 18 (10)
  • 360: 15 (4)
  • PS3: 10 (0)
  • Wii: 6 (4)

Total AA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 83 (57)
  • 360: 74 (12)
  • PS3: 45 (4)
  • Wii: 24 (7)
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PC gamers and their games continue to unimpress on SYSTEM WARS forums. I wonder if they realise no one cares?
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It's shameful. I would much rather have a respectable career than to center my life on playing video games competitively.

It's a disgrace compared to real sports that require a lot more dedication.

mo0ksi

What is purpose of JOB?

To earn money.

What is purpose of MONEY?

To buy things that will give you happy and healthfull life.

If you can be happy,+ earn money + dont work every day and even when you work its not real work its PLAY + worldwide famous well i dont know.

I just know that some of those guys earn like 20 000 $ @ age of 20 when most people dont even have regular job not even talking about "career"

PC gamers and their games continue to unimpress on SYSTEM WARS forums. I wonder if they realise no one cares?Gaming_Guru_Guy

Noone cares about you either

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[QUOTE="Locke562"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I never understand why people think the PC is a dead format...Lidve

Because it is. Sometimes you just have to accept it Wasdie. Even if it brings you great pain.

If this is dead i dont know what would happen if it was "alive" :roll:

Total AAAA (# exclusive)

  • PS3: 2 (1)
  • 360: 1 (0)

Total AAA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 18 (10)
  • 360: 15 (4)
  • PS3: 10 (0)
  • Wii: 6 (4)

Total AA (# exclusive)

  • PC: 83 (57)
  • 360: 74 (12)
  • PS3: 45 (4)
  • Wii: 24 (7)

Remember to bring your sarcasm meter in for regular maintenence.

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]It's shameful. I would much rather have a respectable career than to center my life on playing video games competitively.

It's a disgrace compared to real sports that require a lot more dedication.

Lidve

What is purpose of JOB?

To earn money.

What is purpose of MONEY?

To buy things that will give you happy and healthfull life.

If you can be happy,+ earn money + dont work every day and even when you work its not real work its PLAY + worldwide famous well i dont know.

I just know that some of those guys earn like 20 000 $ @ age of 20 when most people dont even have regular job not even talking about "career"

Money doesn't always buy you happiness.

What if you want to start a family? You tell a girl that you play video games for a living and how is she gonna take that? That it's a very good "profession"?

Gaming is supposed to be a hobby, not an unhealthy and competitive way of life.

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serious gamer? Its a game, its suposed to be fun, not serious. elitist bastards. trasherhead

Someone forgot to take his valium this morning

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]It's shameful. I would much rather have a respectable career than to center my life on playing video games competitively.

It's a disgrace compared to real sports that require a lot more dedication.

Lidve

What is purpose of JOB?

To earn money.

What is purpose of MONEY?

To buy things that will give you happy and healthfull life.

If you can be happy,+ earn money + dont work every day and even when you work its not real work its PLAY + worldwide famous well i dont know.

I just know that some of those guys earn like 20 000 $ @ age of 20 when most people dont even have regular job not even talking about "career"

PC gamers and their games continue to unimpress on SYSTEM WARS forums. I wonder if they realise no one cares?Gaming_Guru_Guy

Noone cares about you either

you cared enough to quote......

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[QUOTE="Lidve"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]It's shameful. I would much rather have a respectable career than to center my life on playing video games competitively.

It's a disgrace compared to real sports that require a lot more dedication.

mo0ksi

What is purpose of JOB?

To earn money.

What is purpose of MONEY?

To buy things that will give you happy and healthfull life.

If you can be happy,+ earn money + dont work every day and even when you work its not real work its PLAY + worldwide famous well i dont know.

I just know that some of those guys earn like 20 000 $ @ age of 20 when most people dont even have regular job not even talking about "career"

Money doesn't always buy you happiness.

What if you want to start a family? You tell a girl that you play video games for a living and how is she gonna take that? That it's a very good "profession"?

Gaming is supposed to be a hobby, not an unhealthy and competitive way of life.

And what is a "very good profession" ????

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="Lidve"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]It's shameful. I would much rather have a respectable career than to center my life on playing video games competitively.

It's a disgrace compared to real sports that require a lot more dedication.

Captain__Tripps

What is purpose of JOB?

To earn money.

What is purpose of MONEY?

To buy things that will give you happy and healthfull life.

If you can be happy,+ earn money + dont work every day and even when you work its not real work its PLAY + worldwide famous well i dont know.

I just know that some of those guys earn like 20 000 $ @ age of 20 when most people dont even have regular job not even talking about "career"

Money doesn't always buy you happiness.

What if you want to start a family? You tell a girl that you play video games for a living and how is she gonna take that? That it's a very good "profession"?

Gaming is supposed to be a hobby, not an unhealthy and competitive way of life.

And what is a "very good profession" ????

Maybe an attorney?

Journalist?

Filmmaker?

Doctor?

Mechanic?

Programmer?

Those are professions. Pro gaming isn't.

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#33 Lidve
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Money doesn't always buy you happiness.

What if you want to start a family? You tell a girl that you play video games for a living and how is she gonna take that? That it's a very good "profession"?

Gaming is supposed to be a hobby, not an unhealthy and competitive way of life.

mo0ksi

Their careers mostly end @ age of ~25,so there is lot of time left to continue with "regular" job and start family.

Extra money while doing something you enjoy is allways welcome

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you cared enough to quote......Gaming_Guru_Guy

You cared enough to POST + QUOTE = selfownage?

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Noone cares about PC. It's already dead.
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I think they are talking about GAMING DEDICATED mouse and keyboard,there is like "normal" cheap mouse you get with pc,Lidve
Yeah, you're actually right, they just quoted the numbers strangely. The number's pretty tiny though, in hindsight. They mention 3.5 million pounds spent on dedicated PC gaming input devices in 2008. Then they go on to mention that 1 million pounds have been spent on dedicated gaming chairs in 2008. Just chairs, haha. Then they go on to mention that in the overall accessories market, console gaming accessories account for about 95% of it.
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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]Cause that's how I want to make a living :roll:mo0ksi

Whats wrong with that?

If you can make a living by playing games than HELL YES!

Having fun + earning money? is there something bether?

But being pro gamer takes lot of dedication and practice,and sometimes,people tend to forget why do they play games and they play them just to earn money

It's shameful. I would much rather have a respectable career than to center my life on playing video games competitively.

It's a disgrace compared to real sports that require a lot more dedication.

:roll: heh ya whatever you say.

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[QUOTE="Lidve"]I think they are talking about GAMING DEDICATED mouse and keyboard,there is like "normal" cheap mouse you get with pc,Makari
Yeah, you're actually right, they just quoted the numbers strangely. The number's pretty tiny though, in hindsight. They mention 3.5 million pounds spent on dedicated PC gaming input devices in 2008. Then they go on to mention that 1 million pounds have been spent on dedicated gaming chairs in 2008. Just chairs, haha. Then they go on to mention that in the overall accessories market, console gaming accessories account for about 95% of it.

because we all know we can play KB/M without chairs! right guys!?!?!?!?

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[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="Lidve"]I think they are talking about GAMING DEDICATED mouse and keyboard,there is like "normal" cheap mouse you get with pc,JangoWuzHere

Yeah, you're actually right, they just quoted the numbers strangely. The number's pretty tiny though, in hindsight. They mention 3.5 million pounds spent on dedicated PC gaming input devices in 2008. Then they go on to mention that 1 million pounds have been spent on dedicated gaming chairs in 2008. Just chairs, haha. Then they go on to mention that in the overall accessories market, console gaming accessories account for about 95% of it.

because we all know we can play KB/M without chairs! right guys!?!?!?!?

no, that much is true - but you cannot play without GAMING CHAIRS. :D just like they split regular office+home kb/m into a different group than gaming kb/m, they split office+home chairs off from gaming chairs.
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What if you want to start a family? You tell a girl that you play video games for a living and how is she gonna take that? That it's a very good "profession"?

mo0ksi

the thing with this statemen is that SC pro gamers got a **** load of grupies like a pop star.

well in korea that is^^

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#41 Hexagon_777
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serious gamer? Its a game, its suposed to be fun, not serious. elitist bastards. trasherhead

Say that to PS3 and 360 fanboys who diss the Wii as well while you are at it.

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[QUOTE="trasherhead"]serious gamer? Its a game, its suposed to be fun, not serious. elitist bastards. Franko_3

Someone forgot to take his valium this morning

I still can't understand why being an elitist is considered a bad thing.

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#43 Hexagon_777
Member since 2007 • 20348 Posts

"Someone needs to sing the European Union anthem now."

Freude, schöner Götterfunken,

Tochter aus Elysium!

Wir betreten feuertrunken,

Himmlische, Dein Heiligtum.

Deine Zauber binden wieder,

Was die Mode streng geteilt,

Alle Menschen werden Brüder,

Wo Dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

(C) by Friedrich Schiller

althrough the official anthem uses no lyrics...

Enosh88

Oh Hell Yea. :D

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#44 MegaManZXY
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PC is still in favor with countries that don't get much consoles because they refuse to abide by copy-right laws.

Thats why there's so much piracy : (

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#45 Hexagon_777
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PC is still in favor with countries that don't get much consoles because they refuse to abide by copy-right laws.

Thats why there's so much piracy :(

MegaManZXY

Another reason could be that the PC has a better cost/performance relationship in some countries.

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[QUOTE="Franko_3"]

[QUOTE="trasherhead"]serious gamer? Its a game, its suposed to be fun, not serious. elitist bastards. Arronaxxx

Someone forgot to take his valium this morning

I still can't understand why being an elitist is considered a bad thing.

Why is a person called an elitiest for having high standards?

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#47 Captain__Tripps
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[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="Lidve"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]It's shameful. I would much rather have a respectable career than to center my life on playing video games competitively.

It's a disgrace compared to real sports that require a lot more dedication.

mo0ksi

What is purpose of JOB?

To earn money.

What is purpose of MONEY?

To buy things that will give you happy and healthfull life.

If you can be happy,+ earn money + dont work every day and even when you work its not real work its PLAY + worldwide famous well i dont know.

I just know that some of those guys earn like 20 000 $ @ age of 20 when most people dont even have regular job not even talking about "career"

Money doesn't always buy you happiness.

What if you want to start a family? You tell a girl that you play video games for a living and how is she gonna take that? That it's a very good "profession"?

Gaming is supposed to be a hobby, not an unhealthy and competitive way of life.

And what is a "very good profession" ????

mo0ksi

Maybe an attorney?

Journalist?

They are practically extinct...

Filmmaker?

George Lucas is not honorable.

Doctor?

Glorified drug dealer.

Programmer?

Those are professions. Pro gaming isn't.

Programmer? A different kind of geek than a gamer... I suppose the race car drivers mechanic is honarable, but the driver is not...

(this post is fu**** up, I have no time for gs lame editor... lol)

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#48 Heydanbud92
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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]Cause that's how I want to make a living :roll:mo0ksi

Whats wrong with that?

If you can make a living by playing games than HELL YES!

Having fun + earning money? is there something bether?

But being pro gamer takes lot of dedication and practice,and sometimes,people tend to forget why do they play games and they play them just to earn money

It's shameful. I would much rather have a respectable career than to center my life on playing video games competitively.

It's a disgrace compared to real sports that require a lot more dedication.

i bet people said the same thing about rock and roll bands.