PC vs Console.. and funny misconceptions of PC gamers!

Quote.1) You have to upgrade every month to play the latest games

Answer) No you don't, I built my first PC in 2009 and I can still play new releases with max settings @1080p

Quote.2) Playing on PC is rubbish because of the keyboard+mouse combo

Answer) FPS are better with a mouse, and anyway you can plug a 360 controller into your PC, or choose from a range of different controllers for that matter

Quote.3) You cant play PC games in relaxation on a sofa

Answer) I have a wireless 360 controller so it's exactly the same as a console, I also have wireless keyboard+mouse for browsing the internet, and I also have a wii controller for my PC just for the fun of it, that can't be done with a 360/PS3 can it now?

Quote.4) PC gaming is expensive and costs thousands of pounds/dollars

Answer) My PC cost me £500 and I can max crysis with it and every console gamer STILL needs a pc, which probably cost around £300.. add that to the price of a console and the costs are equal if not more expensive than a PC gamer.

Console games in general cost 20% more than PC games on release, Computer games also drop in price much faster than their console rivals.

(10 PC games ~£300) (10 Xbox360/PS3 games ~£400)

So after some simple math..

My Gaming PC (500) Games (300) TOTAL = £800

My PS3 (300) Games (400) Average computer (300) TOTAL = £1000

Btw I live in the uk so computer hardware is pretty expensive, someone in the USA could build the same spec PC as mine for about £400!

So at the end of the day for a PC gamer

Advantages: Cheaper, more value for money, next gen graphics @1080p, more flexibity, better gaming experience

Disadvantages: Slightly more complex to use, more power consuming, sometimes need update patches for games

Conclusion:

If you have more time on your hands, get a gaming PC. If your more laid back and don't want the hassle, get a console. If you claim to be a hardcore gamer.. GET BOTH

So, what if I've never claimed to be a hardcore gamer??

No Wii option?

No option for all 4?i5750at4Ghz

Or this? :?

So, what if I've never claimed to be a hardcore gamer??

GreenGoblin2099

No Wii option?

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]No option for all 4?gamefree2

Or this? :?

Where's the "All of the Above" or "Wii" option?

I predominantly game on all 3 consoles and spend my PC time with Civ IV and Valve games, but I'll build a gaming PC early next year and change that.

I highly doubt you bought a gaming PC for $500 in 2006 and since then have never had to upgrade to be able to play the best looking games. It usually costs $500 minimum to get a PC that can play good looking games (on high settings) that just came out or are coming out over the next year, over 4 years you'd need some upgrades. 500 pounds is more than $500, but not so significantly more you'd have a future proof computer.

Steam deals are pretty much the only reason I game on PC anymore. Probably half my game library came from last year's Christmas sale and I can't wait for the next one.

Otherwise I prefer 360's game library to ps3, in addition to playing with my friends. And I can't remember the last time I touched the Wii..... :o

If there was an option for all of the above though, that's what I would go with.

[QUOTE="gamefree2"]

No Wii option?

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]No option for all 4?spliff_man

Or this? :?

Hardcore Hermits need to understand not everyone wants to game on a PC and everyone is entitled to their own, unique opinionFunconsole

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] 3) You can play on the couch, but controllers aren't universally supported on PC's so hooking them up in the living room can sometimes be cumbersome for most people. spliff_man

[QUOTE="spliff_man"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] 3) You can play on the couch, but controllers aren't universally supported on PC's so hooking them up in the living room can sometimes be cumbersome for most people. savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="spliff_man"] The 360 controller is universally supported, and some logitech controllers, plugging a usb controller into a port isn't exactly complicated lolspliff_man

[QUOTE="spliff_man"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] 3) You can play on the couch, but controllers aren't universally supported on PC's so hooking them up in the living room can sometimes be cumbersome for most people. savagetwinkie

This is true, and while some games do support the 360 controller as plug and play, most do not and you have to resort to using third party hacks such as Joy2key (which IMO sucks). The myth that you can just plug in a controller and start playing all PC games is spread around here by a lot of PC gamers. I'll never understand why most PC gamers on here try to "convert" console gamers into PC gamers. Most don't realize that a lot of us console gamers do game some on PC, we just prefer console gaming more. While I do enjoy a few exclusives on the PC, I much prefer console gaming due to friends, ease of use, and after working all day on a PC, I'd rather come home and game on a console. I know a lot of you PC gamers won't understand this, but I also prefer Xbox live to gaming online with the PC. The experience is much more streamlined and it is a lot easier to get in a game with friends IMO of course. I also prefer the exclusives more on the PS3 and 360 than the PC.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="spliff_man"] The 360 controller is universally supported, and some logitech controllers, plugging a usb controller into a port isn't exactly complicated lolKalEl370

This is true, and while some games do support the 360 controller as plug and play, most do not and you have to resort to using third party hacks such as Joy2key (which IMO sucks). The myth that you can just plug in a controller and start playing all PC games is spread around here by a lot of PC gamers. I'll never understand why most PC gamers on here try to "convert" console gamers into PC gamers. Most don't realize that a lot of us console gamers do game some on PC, we just prefer console gaming more. While I do enjoy a few exclusives on the PC, I much prefer console gaming due to friends, ease of use, and after working all day on a PC, I'd rather come home and game on a console. I know a lot of you PC gamers won't understand this, but I also prefer Xbox live to gaming online with the PC. The experience is much more streamlined and it is a lot easier to get in a game with friends IMO of course. I also prefer the exclusives more on the PS3 and 360 than the PC.

The 360 controller is universally supported, and some logitech controllers, plugging a usb controller into a port isn't exactly complicated lolspliff_man

If the pc was treated equally by developers then I think you could make a good case for an HTPC but not when it gets skipped on major exclusives like RDR and is missing local multiplayer.

[QUOTE="spliff_man"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] 3) You can play on the couch, but controllers aren't universally supported on PC's so hooking them up in the living room can sometimes be cumbersome for most people. savagetwinkie

Why in Gods name would you want to play any of those games with a controller is beyond me.

[QUOTE="spliff_man"] The 360 controller is universally supported, and some logitech controllers, plugging a usb controller into a port isn't exactly complicated loldc337

Who would want to play PC exclusives such as Starcraft 2,Arma 2,FSX,WoW,STALKER and hundreds of others with a controller?

Almost no one cares about local MP on the PC,why would the devs do it if almost no one uses it?

Every GFWL game supports it, if not there is a simple program called xpadder which does it for you..spliff_man

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="spliff_man"] The 360 controller is universally supported, and some logitech controllers, plugging a usb controller into a port isn't exactly complicated lolArach666

Who would want to play PC exclusives such as Starcraft 2,Arma 2,FSX,WoW,STALKER and hundreds of others with a controller?

Almost no one cares about local MP on the PC,why would the devs do it if almost no one uses it?

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="spliff_man"] The 360 controller is universally supported, and some logitech controllers, plugging a usb controller into a port isn't exactly complicated lolEggimannd

Why in Gods name would you want to play any of those games with a controller is beyond me.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="dc337"] The problem is that pc exclusives are designed around the mouse and keyboard. Local multiplayer is also a problem.

dc337

Who would want to play PC exclusives such as Starcraft 2,Arma 2,FSX,WoW,STALKER and hundreds of others with a controller?

Almost no one cares about local MP on the PC,why would the devs do it if almost no one uses it?

I played games on my Wii (Super Mario Sunshine), PC (Minecraft), 360 (Prince of Persia [2008] and Forza Motorsport 3) and PS2 (Devil May Cry 3) today. I think that pretty well illustrates my "loyalties."

Almost no one cares about local MP on the PC,why would the devs do it if almost no one uses it?Arach666

This is the thing, PC gamers have the choice to use a controller only if they want to. I wouldn't no anyone silly enough to want to play games like starcraft with a controller because the whole thing is based on point n click. Racers and games like Devil May Cry/Prototype/AssassinsCreed are better with controllers, console ports tend to work well with controllers anyway. Later on in this thread I stated that when it comes to multi-plats, a controller is perfectly fine to use on a pc because the games were initially developed for console gamepads. That statement doesn't apply to pc exclusives as they were designed with keyboard+mouse controls in mindspliff_man

This is the thing, PC gamers have the choice to use a controller only if they want to. I wouldn't no anyone silly enough to want to play games like starcraft with a controller because the whole thing is based on point n click. spliff_man

Later on in this thread I stated that when it comes to multi-plats, a controller is perfectly fine to use on a pc because the games were initially developed for console gamepads. That statement doesn't apply to pc exclusives as they were designed with keyboard+mouse controls in mindspliff_man

How biased! No option for all the above. Give me a break.

[QUOTE="spliff_man"]This is the thing, PC gamers have the choice to use a controller only if they want to. I wouldn't no anyone silly enough to want to play games like starcraft with a controller because the whole thing is based on point n click. dc337

Later on in this thread I stated that when it comes to multi-plats, a controller is perfectly fine to use on a pc because the games were initially developed for console gamepads. That statement doesn't apply to pc exclusives as they were designed with keyboard+mouse controls in mindspliff_man

Console gamers get local multiplayer, PC gamers get dedicated servers which destroy matchmaking. I think that's a fair trade off.

PC gamers aren't trying to convert anyone. Anyone who does so is just a fanboy. Stop generalizing.

How biased! No option for all the above. Give me a break.

Zophar87

I dont get what your saying mate.. I have over 40 PC games and every single one works with my controller, I sit comfortably on my couch and play on a 50 inch screen. If someone thinks its hassle to get it up and running then thats their loss not mine, im not trying to convert anyone, just trying to clear up some misconceptions. Oh and about 'the glory days of PC gaming are over' you are so very wrong my friend. However you are right about local multiplayer, consoles really excel in that.. im just guesing you dont no what a lan party isspliff_man

[QUOTE="spliff_man"]I dont get what your saying mate.. I have over 40 PC games and every single one works with my controller, I sit comfortably on my couch and play on a 50 inch screen. If someone thinks its hassle to get it up and running then thats their loss not mine, im not trying to convert anyone, just trying to clear up some misconceptions. Oh and about 'the glory days of PC gaming are over' you are so very wrong my friend. However you are right about local multiplayer, consoles really excel in that.. im just guesing you dont no what a lan party isEdenProxy

DRM is incredibly exaggerated in here. Why do people keep mentionning it so much?

Lack of LAN support?.... How exactly has that brought it down when it was never really there in the first place except for "lan parties" or Net Cafes. Moot point :?

Dev support is fine. Crytek is still there (even though now it's going multi it's still going to be superior on PC), Valve, Blizzard, Activision, Microsoft saying they want to come back, and lots of others.

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="spliff_man"]

It isn't always a choice when it can completely ruin the game experience or make the game impossible. Compatibility within the game is still a problem.

[QUOTE="spliff_man"] Later on in this thread I stated that when it comes to multi-plats, a controller is perfectly fine to use on a pc because the games were initially developed for console gamepads. That statement doesn't apply to pc exclusives as they were designed with keyboard+mouse controls in mindEggimannd

Console gamers get local multiplayer, PC gamers get dedicated servers which destroy matchmaking. I think that's a fair trade off.

PC gamers aren't trying to convert anyone. Anyone who does so is just a fanboy. Stop generalizing.

[QUOTE="spliff_man"]I dont get what your saying mate.. I have over 40 PC games and every single one works with my controller, I sit comfortably on my couch and play on a 50 inch screen. If someone thinks its hassle to get it up and running then thats their loss not mine, im not trying to convert anyone, just trying to clear up some misconceptions. Oh and about 'the glory days of PC gaming are over' you are so very wrong my friend. However you are right about local multiplayer, consoles really excel in that.. im just guesing you dont no what a lan party issavagetwinkie

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

How biased! No option for all the above. Give me a break.

spliff_man

I'm merely trolling you, dear! Go along with it.

[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

[QUOTE="dc337"] The problem with pc multiplats is local multiplayer. The pc also gets skipped on a lot of multiplats, especially sports and fighting games which are popular for local play.

What it comes down to is that pc gaming is waste of time for a gamer that wants to play entirely with a controller, especially if local multiplayer is desired. Trying to convert people who like to play on the couch is silly. The glory days of pc gaming are over but the pc still gets a lot of good games to play. The pc gamers on this board really need to give evangelizing a break.

savagetwinkie

Console gamers get local multiplayer, PC gamers get dedicated servers which destroy matchmaking. I think that's a fair trade off.

PC gamers aren't trying to convert anyone. Anyone who does so is just a fanboy. Stop generalizing.

Ya I meant P2P matchmaking. Anyways you're right in saying that P2P is fine for a lot of people, but if you look at it objectively, there's no arguing that dedicated servers DESTROY P2P matchmaking.