pc would be better off without windows

I think the pc gaming alience should make there own gaming os and dump windows. Windows is the worst os on the market. Who is the slowest and least safe? windows .

Which is the most popular?

Windows.

Exactly. That's why it is the least safe.

Also, the Computer market would epicly fail with many large OS'es.

huh? Windows 7 is a great OS, and currently runs games far more efficiently and faster than Mac OS X

Which is the most popular?

Windows.

Exactly. That's why it is the least safe.

Also, the Computer market would epicly fail with many large OS'es.

siddhu33

market share has nothing to do with it . Mac os 9 had far more virues then os 10 and os 10 has way more market share. Windows is just easy to attack . its wasy to easy to into a windows pc. Os like ubuntu don't have all these open ports and cant install anything without asking you first .

I agree with you for the most part. I only use Windows for playing PC games, and I don't even bother touching browsers or downloading anything with it... I have my laptop with Ubuntu installed on it for that. Windows seriously is unsafe and subpar at anything besides gaming.

I agree with you for the most part. I only use Windows for playing PC games, and I don't even bother touching browsers or downloading anything with it... I have my laptop with Ubuntu installed on it for that. Windows seriously is unsafe and subpar at anything besides gaming.

VauxhalI

nice to see another ubuntu user : ) Glad you agree to many win pc users here .

Nah, it needs some kind of consistency, otherwise it would be impossible to develop for.Guppy507

TC; your opinion is wrong.

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Which is the most popular?

Windows.

Exactly. That's why it is the least safe.

Also, the Computer market would epicly fail with many large OS'es.

dontshackzmii

market share has nothing to do with it . Mac os 9 had far more virues then os 10 and os 10 has way more market share. Windows is just easy to attack . its wasy to easy to into a windows pc. Os like ubuntu don't have all these open ports and cant install anything without asking you first .

No... hackers have no reason to go after Mac, so there are less scripted programs for hacking designed for it. Market share has everything to do with how many script kiddies are running around. And for Unbuntu you have to open tons of ports to get anything working with online play. A unified open source platform is ideal for gaming... Windows is not the problem.

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Which is the most popular?

Windows.

Exactly. That's why it is the least safe.

Also, the Computer market would epicly fail with many large OS'es.

dontshackzmii

market share has nothing to do with it . Mac os 9 had far more virues then os 10 and os 10 has way more market share. Windows is just easy to attack . its wasy to easy to into a windows pc. Os like ubuntu don't have all these open ports and cant install anything without asking you first .

Computers are only as "safe" or intelligent as their users. If one's computer is easily infected or slow that says something about one more than the computer one is using. Also TC, you say windows is slow; i.e. bloated, and you use Ubuntu? Do you have any idea how silly that is? Use scientific Linux if you want a "fast" OS.-Feath-

Ubuntu 10.04 boots in like 10 seconds thats pretty fast. I use ubuntu because its the most supported os . I have used puppy linux that was pretty fast.

When it comes to being "safe" I should not have to tip toe around the net . With linux i can visit pretty much any site and not have to worry. ubuntu is updated all the time . So i don't have to worry about how safe i am .

[QUOTE="-Feath-"]Computers are only as "safe" or intelligent as their users. If one's computer is easily infected or slow that says something about one more than the computer one is using. Also TC, you say windows is slow; i.e. bloated, and you use Ubuntu? Do you have any idea how silly that is? Use scientific Linux if you want a "fast" OS.dontshackzmii

Ubuntu 10.04 boots in like 10 seconds thats pretty fast. I use ubuntu because its the most supported os . I have used puppy linux that was pretty fast.

When it comes to being "safe" I should not have to tip toe around the net . With linux i can visit pretty much any site and not have to worry. ubuntu is updated all the time . So i don't have to worry about how safe i am .

Yeah, and when you want to get a program, you probably have to run Wine, or have about 10 different versions of the same program. Who wants all that extra hassle?

Agreed, I dislike Windows. Although Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate is a VERY GOOD OS its the one I use now.

However, I wish that Steam made their own OS. Any PC game you buy or play should require a Steam account to run and then get your own Steam OS for advantages :)

Or a nice Google OS.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="-Feath-"]Computers are only as "safe" or intelligent as their users. If one's computer is easily infected or slow that says something about one more than the computer one is using. Also TC, you say windows is slow; i.e. bloated, and you use Ubuntu? Do you have any idea how silly that is? Use scientific Linux if you want a "fast" OS.siddhu33

Ubuntu 10.04 boots in like 10 seconds thats pretty fast. I use ubuntu because its the most supported os . I have used puppy linux that was pretty fast.

When it comes to being "safe" I should not have to tip toe around the net . With linux i can visit pretty much any site and not have to worry. ubuntu is updated all the time . So i don't have to worry about how safe i am .

Yeah, and when you want to get a program, you probably have to run Wine, or have about 10 different versions of the same program. Who wants all that extra hassle?

Run what on wine? I can get software for anything i need on linux. Lot of the apps i am running are the same as on windows. I got msn fire fox open office and everything els i need.

Agreed, I dislike Windows. Although Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate is a VERY GOOD OS its the one I use now.

However, I wish that Steam made their own OS. Any PC game you buy or play should require a Steam account to run and then get your own Steam OS for advantages :)

Or a nice Google OS.

hd5870corei7

win 7 is just a lighter version of vista with a new task bar .

[QUOTE="-Feath-"]Computers are only as "safe" or intelligent as their users. If one's computer is easily infected or slow that says something about one more than the computer one is using. Also TC, you say windows is slow; i.e. bloated, and you use Ubuntu? Do you have any idea how silly that is? Use scientific Linux if you want a "fast" OS.dontshackzmii

Ubuntu 10.04 boots in like 10 seconds thats pretty fast. I use ubuntu because its the most supported os . I have used puppy linux that was pretty fast.

When it comes to being "safe" I should not have to tip toe around the net . With linux i can visit pretty much any site and not have to worry. ubuntu is updated all the time . So i don't have to worry about how safe i am .

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Which is the most popular?

Windows.

Exactly. That's why it is the least safe.

Also, the Computer market would epicly fail with many large OS'es.

dontshackzmii

market share has nothing to do with it . Mac os 9 had far more virues then os 10 and os 10 has way more market share. Windows is just easy to attack . its wasy to easy to into a windows pc. Os like ubuntu don't have all these open ports and cant install anything without asking you first .

this reminded me of this article

Apple users have less protection from viruses and malicious software than Windows users do. But they're still safer, security experts agree, because so few malware programs target the Mac.

Apple's new Snow Leopard operating system, which landed in stores Friday, adds a few security enhancements to protect Mac users from malware. But like previous versions of the Mac OS, Snow Leopard lacks security features that are built in to Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7, such as full Address Space Layout Randomization to thwart attacks from malicious code.

That makes Macs more vulnerable to attack, explained Charlie Miller, a security researcher and author of the book The Mac Hacker's Handbook. But despite its weaknesses, Mac users have no reason to panic — yet. Apple's PC market share is still roughly only about 10 percent, giving hackers and malicious software coders very little economic incentive to target the Mac.

In short, Mac users are ducking behind a short wall — but as long as the enemy is firing in another direction, they're not in grave danger.

"If you're a bad guy and you're doing this to make money … you don't want to spend 90 percent of your time on Windows and 10 percent on Mac," Miller said in a phone interview. "You're going to want to spend 100 percent of your time on Windows."

link

I agree with you. However there are too many Games For Windows titles so they aren't leaving me a choice.

I think the pc gaming alience should make there own gaming os and dump windows. Windows is the worst os on the market. Who is the slowest and least safe? windows .

dontshackzmii

I think the pc gaming alience should make there own gaming os and dump windows. Windows is the worst os on the market. Who is the slowest and least safe? windows .

dontshackzmii

Knowing the PC Gaming Alliance, I'm sure they will hear the outcry against Windows and release a report supposedly PROVING that Windows is not only the single best OS ever made, but 99% of PC users stick with it because they love it and have mastered it and hug it before bed each night.

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

Agreed, I dislike Windows. Although Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate is a VERY GOOD OS its the one I use now.

However, I wish that Steam made their own OS. Any PC game you buy or play should require a Steam account to run and then get your own Steam OS for advantages :)

Or a nice Google OS.

dontshackzmii

win 7 is just a lighter version of vista with a new task bar .

And what is wrong with that?

I can run windows 7 on 256mbs of ram and a pentium 3 processor.

I have it on my old laptop and it runs very smooth and boots up fast.

You just have to be intelligent enough to configure it.

You do realise the reason Windows is attacked so often is because it is the most used OS? if we had another one take its place it would also have the most security issues :|. Im using XP and no problems here using a healthy dose of common sense where needed.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

I think the pc gaming alience should make there own gaming os and dump windows. Windows is the worst os on the market. Who is the slowest and least safe? windows .

ZIMdoom

Knowing the PC Gaming Alliance, I'm sure they will hear the outcry against Windows and release a report supposedly PROVING that Windows is not only the single best OS ever made, but 99% of PC users stick with it because they love it and have mastered it and hug it before bed each night.

I get into bed with my processor >_>....

I dont like a console maker having so much control over pc gaming, but I dont see a real alternative. Maybe google can creep its way in, it would take years but maybe someday...

Windows is doing wonders for PCgaming, leaving it out would propably cripple pcgaming for good.

Plus please...it's not 90s anymore, hardly anyone cares much about their OS, they just need a system that allows them to run their software and Windows provides that.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

I think the pc gaming alience should make there own gaming os and dump windows. Windows is the worst os on the market. Who is the slowest and least safe? windows .

ZIMdoom

Knowing the PC Gaming Alliance, I'm sure they will hear the outcry against Windows and release a report supposedly PROVING that Windows is not only the single best OS ever made, but 99% of PC users stick with it because they love it and have mastered it and hug it before bed each night.

Computers are only as "safe" or intelligent as their users. If one's computer is easily infected or slow that says something about one more than the computer one is using.-Feath-

Hows the games on Linux then? Oh wait.....

Windows USED to be rather unstable... Windows 7 gave me no problem at all, ever!

(I had all Windows versions from 3.11 onwards, so I know what I'm talking about...)

Oh, and it doesn't let apps install themselves without your consent...!

Yes, Linux can be considered a better OS for many reasons, but game developers

had to stick with releasing their games on the most popular OS, simple as that!

Hows the games on Linux then? Oh wait.....

clyde46

How's the half-life on Windows then? Oh wait...

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

Agreed, I dislike Windows. Although Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate is a VERY GOOD OS its the one I use now.

However, I wish that Steam made their own OS. Any PC game you buy or play should require a Steam account to run and then get your own Steam OS for advantages :)

Or a nice Google OS.

dontshackzmii

win 7 is just a lighter version of vista with a new task bar .

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

Hows the games on Linux then? Oh wait.....

VauxhalI

How's the half-life on Windows then? Oh wait...

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

Hows the games on Linux then? Oh wait.....

VauxhalI

How's the half-life on Windows then? Oh wait...

[QUOTE="VauxhalI"]

I agree with you for the most part. I only use Windows for playing PC games, and I don't even bother touching browsers or downloading anything with it... I have my laptop with Ubuntu installed on it for that. Windows seriously is unsafe and subpar at anything besides gaming.

dontshackzmii

nice to see another ubuntu user : ) Glad you agree to many win pc users here .

Good luck playing those games with Ubuntu ... oh wait.

Mac OSX sucks for gaming and game performance. You seriously telling us you can't understand why so many people here like Windows....

[QUOTE="VauxhalI"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

Hows the games on Linux then? Oh wait.....

clyde46

How's the half-life on Windows then? Oh wait...

Hahaha, no. I don't know if you were trying to be sarcastic or whatever, but I wasn't talking about games. :lol:

I use Windows 7 to play games, I treat it almost like a console. I run Ubuntu on a laptop to do everything else, I treat it like a computer.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

Agreed, I dislike Windows. Although Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate is a VERY GOOD OS its the one I use now.

However, I wish that Steam made their own OS. Any PC game you buy or play should require a Steam account to run and then get your own Steam OS for advantages :)

Or a nice Google OS.

the_ChEeSe_mAn2

win 7 is just a lighter version of vista with a new task bar .

Whats so different then? Free apps don't work half the time when it comes to virues . I really dont see a huge leep from vista to win 7

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

Agreed, I dislike Windows. Although Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate is a VERY GOOD OS its the one I use now.

However, I wish that Steam made their own OS. Any PC game you buy or play should require a Steam account to run and then get your own Steam OS for advantages :)

Or a nice Google OS.

dontshackzmii

win 7 is just a lighter version of vista with a new task bar .

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="VauxhalI"]

I agree with you for the most part. I only use Windows for playing PC games, and I don't even bother touching browsers or downloading anything with it... I have my laptop with Ubuntu installed on it for that. Windows seriously is unsafe and subpar at anything besides gaming.

1080pOnly

nice to see another ubuntu user : ) Glad you agree to many win pc users here .

Good luck playing those games with Ubuntu ... oh wait.

Mac OSX sucks for gaming and game performance. You seriously telling us you can't understand why so many people here like Windows....

People use windows because it's there only option . OSX is a way better os then windows. But that's not saying much because pretty much anything els.

windows pwn but if i could make my own os i would

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

win 7 is just a lighter version of vista with a new task bar .

dontshackzmii

Whats so different then? Free apps don't work half the time when it comes to virues . I really dont see a huge leep from vista to win 7

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

Agreed, I dislike Windows. Although Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate is a VERY GOOD OS its the one I use now.

However, I wish that Steam made their own OS. Any PC game you buy or play should require a Steam account to run and then get your own Steam OS for advantages :)

Or a nice Google OS.

BosoxJoe5

win 7 is just a lighter version of vista with a new task bar .

Yet it looks pretty much the same and runs a bit faster. you might get like 2fps faster in games with win 7 .

[QUOTE="BosoxJoe5"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

win 7 is just a lighter version of vista with a new task bar .

dontshackzmii

Yet it looks pretty much the same and runs a bit faster. you might get like 2fps faster in games with win 7 .

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"] This statement alone defeats any kind of crediblity you could have earned in this thread. Win 7 is definitely much more than "light version of vista with new task bar". You say WIndows is easy to attack. It is also easy to get a few free programs that will protect you against the majority of the viruses out there. PC Gaming Alliance is a sham and nothing will come out of that organization, so don't bother waiting for a magical OS to come out that will magically be the #1 gaming OS for the PC.clyde46

Whats so different then? Free apps don't work half the time when it comes to virues . I really dont see a huge leep from vista to win 7

when i say dont work i mean they could not find hey in a hey stack

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Whats so different then? Free apps don't work half the time when it comes to virues . I really dont see a huge leep from vista to win 7

dontshackzmii

when i say dont work i mean they could not find hey in a hey stack