Pendulum Alter-Ego System > any other animation engine(56K )

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#1 MojondeVACA
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This amazing combination of technology and graphical artistry makes for some of the most realistic and precise 3D animated facial expressions I've ever seen come out of a computer.



Pendulum Studios,AlterEgo division combines facial expression software,precision motion capture,and good old-fashioned artistry to reproduce the most minute facial movements you've ever seen on a digital actor.Every wrinkle,crinkle and twitch is reproduced with startling accuracy.



The guys over at AlterEgo have developed proprietary"facial performance software",which combined with special mo-cap hardware,can produce unbelievably real digital faces in record time.Their work has been featured in motion pictures, commercials,animation and video games including Dark Sector and the forthcoming Silent Hill 5.

http://technabob.com/blog/2008/08/09/alter-ego-facial-animation-3d/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGYphy3G1w&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wtv4bsLWvw

That looks simple amazing,even better than Sourcengine animations,i hope more games use this engine in the future.they are almost life like.
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#2 Kez1984
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Very cool. If you take into consideration the date of the source engine though, there facial animations are pretty good.

One of the problems of becoming overly realistic with models and animation is that you get the uncanny valley effect ala Beowolf and Mass Effect. Adding some artstyle in can help with this I think, people say Crysis is realistic, it is, but it's also slightly stylized.

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#3 MojondeVACA
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Very cool. If you take into consideration the date of the source engine though, there facial animations are pretty good.

One of the problems of becoming overly realistic with models and animation is that you get the uncanny valley effect ala Beowolf and Mass Effect. Adding some artstyle in can help with this I think, people say Crysis is realistic, it is, but it's also slightly stylized.

Kez1984


But still better than anything on consoles!
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#4 mmlgamer
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Eventually, we won't need real actors for movies.

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#5 bobbetybob
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Eventually, we won't need real actors for movies.

mmlgamer

We still will sort of, you still need an actor for the motion capturing, and for the voice acting so they'll still have jobs =p

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[QUOTE="mmlgamer"]

Eventually, we won't need real actors for movies.

bobbetybob

We still will sort of, you still need an actor for the motion capturing, and for the voice acting so they'll still have jobs =p

Ya, I'm an animator, so this stuff scares me! :P We're the ones that should be scared, not the actors.

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Eeeesh.. Uncanny valley much? But yeah, apart from the creepyness this is pretty impressive stuff :P
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[QUOTE="mmlgamer"]

Eventually, we won't need real actors for movies.

bobbetybob

We still will sort of, you still need an actor for the motion capturing, and for the voice acting so they'll still have jobs =p

indeed :P

i thought the old man on the 2nd picture was real O_0!!!

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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="mmlgamer"]

Eventually, we won't need real actors for movies.

12345yon

We still will sort of, you still need an actor for the motion capturing, and for the voice acting so they'll still have jobs =p

indeed :P

i thought the old man on the 2nd picture was real O_0!!!

I just saw the video on youtube and the old man ias amazing, he looks realistic, and there's not even many flaws, he pretty much looks like a real person pulling silly faces. He has the detail too like the wrinkles he looks more realistic, the other two still look quite fake, they need the sort of skin detail the guys in Crysis have.

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#10 Amit_Raj
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apparently Dark Sector is the game that made use of this tech...
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why do people always look silly in face rendering demos? HL2 still has the best expressions to date.
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Very cool. If you take into consideration the date of the source engine though, there facial animations are pretty good.

Kez1984

this.

despite the sources engines age it still has fantastic facial animations and far better than many newer games, it just shows what can be acheive with a little hard work.

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[QUOTE="12345yon"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="mmlgamer"]

Eventually, we won't need real actors for movies.

bobbetybob

We still will sort of, you still need an actor for the motion capturing, and for the voice acting so they'll still have jobs =p

indeed :P

i thought the old man on the 2nd picture was real O_0!!!

I just saw the video on youtube and the old man ias amazing, he looks realistic, and there's not even many flaws, he pretty much looks like a real person pulling silly faces. He has the detail too like the wrinkles he looks more realistic, the other two still look quite fake, they need the sort of skin detail the guys in Crysis have.



I was about to say that before the old man model looks more real than the other 2.
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Facial expressions are only part of the whole picture when it comes to animating characters. A character's body and limbs must also move realistically and not have this artificial or canned vibe to it. Unfortunately, most modern games still don't seem to provide the quality of animation I'm looking for in that regard. Maybe if someone combined this technology with Euphoria...
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apparently Dark Sector is the game that made use of this tech... Amit_Raj

Really? I liked the game, but the animations were nothing to write home about.

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Very cool. If you take into consideration the date of the source engine though, there facial animations are pretty good.

One of the problems of becoming overly realistic with models and animation is that you get the uncanny valley effect ala Beowolf and Mass Effect. Adding some artstyle in can help with this I think, people say Crysis is realistic, it is, but it's also slightly stylized.

Kez1984

thus making it better than real life :P

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Eh... what's the point? Try as you may, I don't feel we'll ever reach some state of facial animation that could ever get to "real" as people would like.

Uncanny, unatural, or just many other little things can ruin a "lifelike" facial expression.

Before those bring up games like Half-Life, ME, and think I'm bashing on so many other games that are doing good on it, body langauge in general to me is something you can never bring to "life" in digital animation

I prefer more cartoonish effects, though it does depend on where the game's sense of immersion is going for. Yet, all the time in the world with the best devs/artist at hand would never create the most "lifelike" animations for me.

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Eh, those are good but it's not THAT much better than Source/Euphoria IMO.
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#20 12345yon
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[QUOTE="12345yon"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="mmlgamer"]

Eventually, we won't need real actors for movies.

bobbetybob

We still will sort of, you still need an actor for the motion capturing, and for the voice acting so they'll still have jobs =p

indeed :P

i thought the old man on the 2nd picture was real O_0!!!

I just saw the video on youtube and the old man ias amazing, he looks realistic, and there's not even many flaws, he pretty much looks like a real person pulling silly faces. He has the detail too like the wrinkles he looks more realistic, the other two still look quite fake, they need the sort of skin detail the guys in Crysis have.

its amazing how games have become this..bit era, now HD era, whuts next?