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the same arrogance, and Sony ended up in last place. Pooor desperate fanboys have tired to put in denial, but come on, SONY EVEN dropped the wonderbook. So many failures this gen based off the same "everyone will buy it" mentality. I mean at this rate Sony will add some very dumb things to the PS4 thinking you will buy it, and the Sony fans will be scraping in depression once again in last place. once again. Using made up proof once again. it's really better to be careful. I say by a PS4 2 years after launch so you don't end up with around 3 years of no great exclusives like the PS3. It looks like Sony is heading toward that same last place arrogance. Even the WII U is turning itself around.
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#2 Blabadon
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Thanks for the warning!
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Thanks for the warning!Blabadon
Gotta be safe you know?
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:lol: 360 is in last place #Dealwithit
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#6 Blabadon
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Holy shit. GameSpot's HTML is genius. Now instead of seeing Davekeeh's usual shit posts, they replaced them with an appropriate video
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#7 ConanTheStoner
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Cows are always arrogant.  Sony, with the PS4, is not being arrogant at all.  They have the hardware, they have the price, they have the games.  This is nothing like the PS3 launch.

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the same arrogance, and Sony ended up in last place. Pooor desperate fanboys have tired to put in denial, but come on, SONY EVEN dropped the wonderbook. So many failures this gen based off the same "everyone will buy it" mentality. I mean at this rate Sony will add some very dumb things to the PS4 thinking you will buy it, and the Sony fans will be scraping in depression once again in last place. once again. Using made up proof once again. it's really better to be careful. I say by a PS4 2 years after launch so you don't end up with around 3 years of no great exclusives like the PS3. It looks like Sony is heading toward that same last place arrogance. Even the WII U is turning itself around.Jakandsigz

Uncharted 1 came out in 2007 so it wasn't 3 years of no exclusives like you said. :P

Honestly though I wouldn't buy a console at launch despite whatever sexy features they promise you.  But I do think Sony's first party studios is at a high point right now.

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lol at the tc. Sounds slightly constipated. PS4-$399 X1-$499 No matter how you spin that. PS4 id cheaper to get.
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#10 Cyberdot
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Nobody will care about sales. They will want to get home from the store and enjoy the damn thing.

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Go away.

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:lol: 360 is in last place #Dealwithit Kaz_Son
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Nothing Sony has done with the Playstation brand compares to how badly Microsoft handled the XB1.

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Nobody will care about sales. They will want to get home from the store and enjoy the damn thing.

Cyberdot

fanboys say otherwise

Nothing Sony has done with the Playstation brand compares to how badly Microsoft handled the XB1.

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e3 2007 ps3

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:lol: 360 is in last place #Dealwithit Kaz_Son

You got offical numbers stupid? Until you do you are in last place! 

#Dealwithit :cool:

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e3 2007 ps3

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Doesn't compare to everything that happened to MS from the XB1 unveil up to their reversal on DRM policies. 

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The PS4 corrects almost every mistake the PS3 had at launch. If the PS4 doesnt sell well then the console market is in serious trouble.

 

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#19 moistsandwich
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PS4 = Stronger hardware at lower price

XB1 = Weaker hardware at higher price

Hmmm.... I wonder what system I want to put my dollars behind?

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

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Blabadon

Holy shit. GameSpot's HTML is genius. Now instead of seeing Davekeeh's usual shit posts, they replaced them with an appropriate video

This post is just ownage.

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The console ain't even out yet and we're already making assumptions about it being a potential failure in certain aspects?

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[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]:lol: 360 is in last place #Dealwithit xhawk27

You got offical numbers stupid? Until you do you are in last place! 

#Dealwithit :cool:

What should he deal with? Your denial? It's common knowledge that PS3 is ahead. Funny that you ask for solid numbers for Ps3 but assume 360 is ahead. This gen made Lems heads big. Xbox isn't some console superpower. MS did nothing but capitalize on Ps3's price. Going to be great seeing you guys damage control  the X1 playing red head stepchild to PS4 :)

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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]:lol: 360 is in last place #Dealwithit Sagemode87

You got offical numbers stupid? Until you do you are in last place! 

#Dealwithit :cool:

What should he deal with? Your denial? It's common knowledge that PS3 is ahead. Funny that you ask for solid numbers for Ps3 but assume 360 is ahead. This gen made Lems heads big. Xbox isn't some console superpower. MS did nothing but capitalize on Ps3's price. Going to be great seeing you guys damage control  the X1 playing red head stepchild to PS4 :)

common knowlegde since when they don't release total numbers to the public!  Super  cow  confirm!

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It's common knowledge that PS3 is ahead.Sagemode87
No, it's very much not
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#25 ShaineTheNerd
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But this time they have price on their side. Last time it was close to double the 360 if I remember correctly.
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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]:lol: 360 is in last place #Dealwithit Sagemode87

You got offical numbers stupid? Until you do you are in last place! 

#Dealwithit :cool:

What should he deal with? Your denial? It's common knowledge that PS3 is ahead. Funny that you ask for solid numbers for Ps3 but assume 360 is ahead. This gen made Lems heads big. Xbox isn't some console superpower. MS did nothing but capitalize on Ps3's price. Going to be great seeing you guys damage control  the X1 playing red head stepchild to PS4 :)

COMMON KNOWLEDGE YOU CAN'T PROVE! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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The console ain't even out yet and we're already making assumptions about it being a potential failure in certain aspects?

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Your reading comprehension skills must be freaking terrible when a warning is considered an assumption to you.
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]the same arrogance, and Sony ended up in last place. Pooor desperate fanboys have tired to put in denial, but come on, SONY EVEN dropped the wonderbook. So many failures this gen based off the same "everyone will buy it" mentality. I mean at this rate Sony will add some very dumb things to the PS4 thinking you will buy it, and the Sony fans will be scraping in depression once again in last place. once again. Using made up proof once again. it's really better to be careful. I say by a PS4 2 years after launch so you don't end up with around 3 years of no great exclusives like the PS3. It looks like Sony is heading toward that same last place arrogance. Even the WII U is turning itself around.

:lol: Lemming attempting to comfort himself, slowly realising what rest of world already knows- 360 last place no game.
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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]the same arrogance, and Sony ended up in last place. Pooor desperate fanboys have tired to put in denial, but come on, SONY EVEN dropped the wonderbook. So many failures this gen based off the same "everyone will buy it" mentality. I mean at this rate Sony will add some very dumb things to the PS4 thinking you will buy it, and the Sony fans will be scraping in depression once again in last place. once again. Using made up proof once again. it's really better to be careful. I say by a PS4 2 years after launch so you don't end up with around 3 years of no great exclusives like the PS3. It looks like Sony is heading toward that same last place arrogance. Even the WII U is turning itself around.

:lol: Lemming attempting to comfort himself, slowly realising what rest of world already knows- 360 last place no game.

Sony's arrogance should be toned down. They are a little full of themselves, and if something happens (from them rushing to meet demand), it will damage them significantly. It would be the second launch that failed. Sony cannot have that. They need to play the good guy until everything is set.
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The same arrogance doesn't apply with the PS4 in any sense.   It's pretty much correcting everything that Sony did wrong with the PS3's launch.   That much has already been proven.  Microsoft on the other hand... LOL. They've been nothing but arrogant and lost a shit ton of sales because of it.  I don't think you realize how many people have jumped from buying an XBOX One to buying a PS4 in a mere instant because of MS's stupidity and arrogance.  It's even worse than Sony of last generation.

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The PS3 stumbled out of the gate. At this point in time, MS and Sony, have the roles reversed. Fortunately, MS fixed a lot, before release.

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the same arrogance, and Sony ended up in last place. Pooor desperate fanboys have tired to put in denial, but come on, SONY EVEN dropped the wonderbook. So many failures this gen based off the same "everyone will buy it" mentality. I mean at this rate Sony will add some very dumb things to the PS4 thinking you will buy it, and the Sony fans will be scraping in depression once again in last place. once again. Using made up proof once again. it's really better to be careful. I say by a PS4 2 years after launch so you don't end up with around 3 years of no great exclusives like the PS3. It looks like Sony is heading toward that same last place arrogance. Even the WII U is turning itself around.Jakandsigz

 

This thread is stupid first the PS3 was $600 dollars double of what the PS2 was which is what really hurt sony.

There is no arrogance or lies from sony this time,in fact the only one that hasn't been honest is MS from the get go.

 

Oh by the way Uncharted was release on 2007 so was Warhawk and several other games so hardly 3 years without games..:lol:

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all companies seem to let success go to their head, happened with Nintendo, happened with MS, happened to Sony, nobody is immune from it, hopefully everyone has enough humility to see the error of their ways and try to get back on their feet
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]the same arrogance, and Sony ended up in last place. Pooor desperate fanboys have tired to put in denial, but come on, SONY EVEN dropped the wonderbook. So many failures this gen based off the same "everyone will buy it" mentality. I mean at this rate Sony will add some very dumb things to the PS4 thinking you will buy it, and the Sony fans will be scraping in depression once again in last place. once again. Using made up proof once again. it's really better to be careful. I say by a PS4 2 years after launch so you don't end up with around 3 years of no great exclusives like the PS3. It looks like Sony is heading toward that same last place arrogance. Even the WII U is turning itself around.tormentos

 

This thread is stupid first the PS3 was $600 dollars double of what the PS2 was which is what really hurt sony.

There is no arrogance or lies from sony this time,in fact the only one that hasn't been honest is MS from the get go.

 

Oh by the way Uncharted was release on 2007 so was Warhawk and several other games so hardly 3 years without games..:lol:

Yeah remember when people brought those and software sales were hi- OH THY WEREN'T??? AND PEOPLE REPATELY COMPLAINED ABOUT ONLY PLAYING MOTORSTORM THAT WHOLE 3 YEARS WITH TONS OF VIDEOS ABOUT THAT VERY THING??? I though so.
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]the same arrogance, and Sony ended up in last place. Pooor desperate fanboys have tired to put in denial, but come on, SONY EVEN dropped the wonderbook. So many failures this gen based off the same "everyone will buy it" mentality. I mean at this rate Sony will add some very dumb things to the PS4 thinking you will buy it, and the Sony fans will be scraping in depression once again in last place. once again. Using made up proof once again. it's really better to be careful. I say by a PS4 2 years after launch so you don't end up with around 3 years of no great exclusives like the PS3. It looks like Sony is heading toward that same last place arrogance. Even the WII U is turning itself around.

You made me dizzy with your terrible logic. This is nothing like like the PS3 launch at all. During 06 Sony was full of air, having won the last two gens by a landslide and no one knew the full of how the Wii stole the family and casual market share (which was another huge chuck for the PS1+2 install base). They talked s***T to their fans, they talked s***T to the developers, and were using rejected alien technology and expected everyone to just learn in and make all games with PS3 optimization in mind. This gen is a complete 180: Sony and Microsoft have switch roles. What has made you so daft that you are ignoring the last two month where Microsoft was talking down to everyone and many of their leads were just fired because of the sh**Tstorm? They're better in Sony in one regard that they have fixed many of their major mistakes before launch but they have already lost the trust of anyone who isn't a fanboy. Angry Joe, someone who has always been an Xbox guy, is making the switch without looking back. The only reason anyone who isn't a fanboy would get an XB1 is if there are exclusives, which is a nobrainer. In everything else: 1. The PS4 is now the easier console to program for and is slightly more powerful in certain areas. When there will be differences in multiplat it be in the PS4's favor 2. The PS4 now has pay for multiplayer which sucks for me (I am NEVER going pay for multiplayer). But it will now have cross game chat + all PS4 comes with a mic. While a good argument to attack Cow's on grounds of hypocrisy, it is a double edge sword that that swings back and hits lemmings hard because they have always paid for online multiplayer, there is now nothing Xbox live has over PSN, plus... 3. If you don't pay form PSN you can still use media features like Netflix. Xbox Live forces you to pay to do anything. The only argument to get an XB1 is a subjective one: you want the games on that platform. Objectively the PS4 is a better deal in almost every way.
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]the same arrogance, and Sony ended up in last place. Pooor desperate fanboys have tired to put in denial, but come on, SONY EVEN dropped the wonderbook. So many failures this gen based off the same "everyone will buy it" mentality. I mean at this rate Sony will add some very dumb things to the PS4 thinking you will buy it, and the Sony fans will be scraping in depression once again in last place. once again. Using made up proof once again. it's really better to be careful. I say by a PS4 2 years after launch so you don't end up with around 3 years of no great exclusives like the PS3. It looks like Sony is heading toward that same last place arrogance. Even the WII U is turning itself around.Kell_the_Gamer
You made me dizzy with your terrible logic. This is nothing like like the PS3 launch at all. During 06 Sony was full of air, having won the last two gens by a landslide and no one knew the full of how the Wii stole the family and casual market share (which was another huge chuck for the PS1+2 install base). They talked s***T to their fans, they talked s***T to the developers, and were using rejected alien technology and expected everyone to just learn in and make all games with PS3 optimization in mind. This gen is a complete 180: Sony and Microsoft have switch roles. What has made you so daft that you are ignoring the last two month where Microsoft was talking down to everyone and many of their leads were just fired because of the sh**Tstorm? They're better in Sony in one regard that they have fixed many of their major mistakes before launch but they have already lost the trust of anyone who isn't a fanboy. Angry Joe, someone who has always been an Xbox guy, is making the switch without looking back. The only reason anyone who isn't a fanboy would get an XB1 is if there are exclusives, which is a nobrainer. In everything else: 1. The PS4 is now the easier console to program for and is slightly more powerful in certain areas. When there will be differences in multiplat it be in the PS4's favor2. The PS4 now has pay for multiplayer which sucks for me (I am NEVER going pay for multiplayer). But it will now have cross game chat + all PS4 comes with a mic. While a good argument to attack Cow's on grounds of hypocrisy, it is a double edge sword that that swings back and hits lemmings hard because they have always paid for online multiplayer, there is now nothing Xbox live has over PSN, plus... 3. If you don't pay form PSN you can still use media features like Netflix. Xbox Live forces you to pay to do anything. The only argument to get an XB1 is a subjective one: you want the games on that platform. Objectively the PS4 is a better deal in almost every way.

That means nothing. PS2 had the worst looking multiplats, but they sold the most on the weakest console. Nice fail. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm gonna lol so hard when XB1 gets destroyed by PS4 sales this holiday season.
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I'm gonna lol so hard when XB1 gets destroyed by PS4 sales this holiday season.Kaz_Son
I don't think it will be a landslide it will sell more but not by 75/25 like some polls seem to indicate. btw is doa5 ultimate good?
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[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]the same arrogance, and Sony ended up in last place. Pooor desperate fanboys have tired to put in denial, but come on, SONY EVEN dropped the wonderbook. So many failures this gen based off the same "everyone will buy it" mentality. I mean at this rate Sony will add some very dumb things to the PS4 thinking you will buy it, and the Sony fans will be scraping in depression once again in last place. once again. Using made up proof once again. it's really better to be careful. I say by a PS4 2 years after launch so you don't end up with around 3 years of no great exclusives like the PS3. It looks like Sony is heading toward that same last place arrogance. Even the WII U is turning itself around.

:lol: Lemming attempting to comfort himself, slowly realising what rest of world already knows- 360 last place no game.

Sony's arrogance should be toned down. They are a little full of themselves, and if something happens (from them rushing to meet demand), it will damage them significantly. It would be the second launch that failed. Sony cannot have that. They need to play the good guy until everything is set.

Yep, while 'planning' to release an always online system with inferior hardware & higher price tag is fvckin' modest :roll: Or releasing a system with last gen power is also not arrogant at all.
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[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]I'm gonna lol so hard when XB1 gets destroyed by PS4 sales this holiday season.metal_zombie
I don't think it will be a landslide it will sell more but not by 75/25 like some polls seem to indicate. btw is doa5 ultimate good?

I think it will be a landslide especially in Europe.

 

:) Yea DOA5U is awesome actually. The extra characters, more costumes, more stages, better music, and better training mode definitely make it a worthy purchase. I feel like it's what vanilla DOA5 should have been from the get go. It's my favorite fighting game this gen.

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Dont have to wait 2 years, infamous, dark souls 2 comes out next year... And its better than m$ having games at its first year then abandoning their customers after,, lolhalogears
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#43 Elitro
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The OP is arrogant, but not so far from the truth.

PS3 taught Sony a lesson, i loved the console but they were also a bit too arrogant after PS2's success.

With that said i feel they are taking the right steps and i hope they deliver.

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#44 ShaineTheNerd
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"] :lol: Lemming attempting to comfort himself, slowly realising what rest of world already knows- 360 last place no game.

Sony's arrogance should be toned down. They are a little full of themselves, and if something happens (from them rushing to meet demand), it will damage them significantly. It would be the second launch that failed. Sony cannot have that. They need to play the good guy until everything is set.

Yep, while 'planning' to release an always online system with inferior hardware & higher price tag is fvckin' modest :roll: Or releasing a system with last gen power is also not arrogant at all.

Aww, you tried so hard.
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#45 inggrish
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Cows are always arrogant.  Sony, with the PS4, is not being arrogant at all.  They have the hardware, they have the price, they have the games.  This is nothing like the PS3 launch.

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This pretty much. Sony was very arrogant with the PS3, this time around they are not being arrogant. Heck I would say Microsoft are being more arrogant than Sony this time around.

That said, yeah cows are pretty full of it.

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#46 RimacBugatti
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Microsoft is still too ignorant to realize without Kinect the darn thing would sell. But just because your a billionaire doesn't mean that you are smart. They make money because they don't care about people.
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#47 super600  Moderator
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Sony will at least do better in terms of launch sales by the looks of it compared to the PS3. I'm not sure what will happen after the launch period is over, but I think a decent drop in sales will occur.Japan won't help the PS4 this gen most likely in terms of console sales anyway because consoles are becoming less popular now in japan.

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#48 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]the same arrogance, and Sony ended up in last place. Pooor desperate fanboys have tired to put in denial, but come on, SONY EVEN dropped the wonderbook. So many failures this gen based off the same "everyone will buy it" mentality. I mean at this rate Sony will add some very dumb things to the PS4 thinking you will buy it, and the Sony fans will be scraping in depression once again in last place. once again. Using made up proof once again. it's really better to be careful. I say by a PS4 2 years after launch so you don't end up with around 3 years of no great exclusives like the PS3. It looks like Sony is heading toward that same last place arrogance. Even the WII U is turning itself around.Mr-Kutaragi
:lol: Lemming attempting to comfort himself, slowly realising what rest of world already knows- 360 last place no game.

all this time and you're still not putting an "s" at the end of "game."

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#49 Floppy_Jim
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This thread-

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#50 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] Sony's arrogance should be toned down. They are a little full of themselves, and if something happens (from them rushing to meet demand), it will damage them significantly. It would be the second launch that failed. Sony cannot have that. They need to play the good guy until everything is set.

Yep, while 'planning' to release an always online system with inferior hardware & higher price tag is fvckin' modest :roll: Or releasing a system with last gen power is also not arrogant at all.

Aww, you tried so hard.

It's the truth, but keep closing your eyes and singing lalala.