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#1 soapandbubbles
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Regarding the NEW DMC reboot, this is just the usual responses we all give when change is made, we hate ..rage say how stupid it looks, then onces its out and once we see that the new changes were needed and how the overall combat system actual feels good..we accept it and start to like it. People are just primitive and that's normal.(think Nintendo Wii) (MGS2 Raiden who turned into a bad ass)

Only difference i see in this dante and the old is the appearance, he will most likely be just as bad arse in character. Looks isn't everything, unless you swing that way. YEEESH!

I'm just going to laugh when people start enjoying the game. I'm pretter sure the combat will be solid and thats what counts.

Honestly hoping they really improve gameplay, the last game was just a reskinned DMC...change is needed, IMO.

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#2 Master_ShakeXXX
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They're going about it completely wrong. A reboot is pretty stupid anyways since the series was doing just fine and the story was never concluded.

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#3 110million
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I'm pretty sure the combat will not be solid. Ninja Theory made a mashy action game, ala God of War, not a deep one, ala DMC 1,3-4 and Ninja Gaiden. They are completely different genres in a way, only the DMC/NG type action games focus on depth in combat, if they can't capture this, its ruined before it comes out. I do not want a GoW/HS type action game for DMC, I simply WILL NOT PLAY IT.
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#5 foxhound_fox
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This would be akin to taking Mario, removing his mustache and making him French electrician. For cripes sakes, the lead designer modeled this Dante after HIMSELF. How egotistical can you get? Not only ruining a beloved character, but doing so with your own mug.

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#6 Master_ShakeXXX
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What foxhound said. Game is fail.

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#7 lamprey263
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as long as the fighting mechanics are solid, the combat is challenging, and the story is decent, I'll try it if it can at least come close to being as good as Bayonetta I'll be satisfied
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#8 foxhound_fox
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it if it can at least come close to being as good as Bayonetta I'll be satisfiedlamprey263

It won't. Hideki Kamiya isn't making it.

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#9 Dibdibdobdobo
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One franchise which i never cared for.
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#10 dakan45
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Prince of persia 2008, wolfenstein 2009, alone in the dark 2008. Thats what i think when i see the "new" dmc. A reboot is bad. I dont like the "new" dante or his story, i want the old Dante back with his style and i want them to continue the franchise. I was so excited they would make another dmc...oh well :(
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#11 Beck1110
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Don't fix what ain't broke?

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#12 bleehum
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No, he looks ridiculous.
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#13 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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They needed to get Platinum games to do it, their contract with sega ends after vanquish.
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#14 Vinegar_Strokes
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No, he looks ridiculous.bleehum
and a bare chested guy with white hair didn't
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#15 Dibdibdobdobo
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They needed to get Platinum games to do it, their contract with sega ends after vanquish. SAGE_OF_FIRE
They needed to drop the franchise altogether and bring out Omniusha instead. Now theres a series worth talking about more so than DMC.
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#16 bleehum
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[QUOTE="bleehum"] No, he looks ridiculous.Vinegar_Strokes
and a bare chested guy with white hair didn't

Certainly not as bad as what they've changed it to. It's just plain terrible.

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#17 mo0ksi
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The redesign is one thing, but Ninja Theory being unremarkable developers is the one thing that's making me say "F this".
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#18 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="bleehum"] No, he looks ridiculous.Vinegar_Strokes
and a bare chested guy with white hair didn't

Nope. Old Dante looked badass. Like a dude I wouldn't wanna **** with. New Dante looks like the type of guy that will run home, cry, and slit his wrists if you poke fun at him.

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#19 Epak_
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Don't fix what ain't broke?

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Hey, what's wrong with nes?

I didn't really care about DMC4 so I will give this reboot a chance at least.

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This would be akin to taking Mario, removing his mustache and making him French electrician. For cripes sakes, the lead designer modeled this Dante after HIMSELF.How egotistical can you get? Not only ruining a beloved character, but doing so with your own mug.

foxhound_fox



Don't be too harsh on him.

He is simply having a life-crisis and regrets that the he never rebelled and dresses like punk rockers like all the other kids around him in England did when he was young.

He has to let it out somehow the poor bastard.

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#21 foxhound_fox
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Don't be too harsh on him.

He is simply having a life-crisis and regrets that the he never rebelled and dresses like punk rockers like all the other kids around him in England did when he was young.

He has do let it out somehow the poor bastard.

JLF1


I honestly can NOT wait to see what Yahtzee has in store for this game when it comes out. :lol:

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#22 soapandbubbles
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

This would be akin to taking Mario, removing his mustache and making him French electrician. For cripes sakes, the lead designer modeled this Dante after HIMSELF.How egotistical can you get? Not only ruining a beloved character, but doing so with your own mug.

JLF1



Don't be too harsh on him.

He is simply having a life-crisis and regrets that the he never rebelled and dresses like punk rockers like all the other kids around him in England did when he was young.

He has to let it out somehow the poor bastard.

That was a marketing thing, you really think that guys has hair like that outside of the interviews? Besides, the hair ****is common among young people these days...the whole messy dark hair emo look. it's what he is going for. Same thing was done with uncharted with the guys dressed as drake, etc.

This way some people can relate with the overall look....srsly what idiot goes around with white long hair/barechested?

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#23 Iantheone
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I will enjoy the game, I will just hate how the new Dante looks. Simple as that
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#24 Animal-Mother
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They're going about it completely wrong. A reboot is pretty stupid anyways since the series was doing just fine and the story was never concluded.

Master_ShakeXXX
Who cares, I mean seriously as gamers why do we feel like were entitled to something? The games not out, we haven't seen the finished product. Hell we saw a trailer :roll: Why don't we wait and see.
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#25 Animal-Mother
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They're going about it completely wrong. A reboot is pretty stupid anyways since the series was doing just fine and the story was never concluded.

Master_ShakeXXX
Who cares, I mean seriously as gamers why do we feel like were entitled to something? The games not out, we haven't seen the finished product. Hell we saw a trailer :roll: Why don't we wait and see.
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#26 JLF1
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That was a marketing thing, you really think that guys has hair like that outside of the interviews? Besides, the hair ****is common among young people these days...the whole messy dark hair emo look. it's what he is going for. Same thing was done with uncharted with the guys dressed as drake, etc.

This way some people can relate with the overall look....srsly what idiot goes around with white long hair/barechested?

soapandbubbles

Yeah, it's common by 14 year old kids.

No, offence but I don't want my Son of a Demon Dante look like the shallow (yes, shallow) emo kids around these days.

I mean, Dante has never been about relating to the average kid. He was an over-the-top bad-ass character with his own styIe.

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#27 JLF1
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

They're going about it completely wrong. A reboot is pretty stupid anyways since the series was doing just fine and the story was never concluded.

Animal-Mother

Who cares, I mean seriously as gamers why do we feel like were entitled to something? The games not out, we haven't seen the finished product. Hell we saw a trailer :roll: Why don't we wait and see.

Seeing as it us gamers that is paying these devs wages every month I do think we have a right to complain when we feel like our money isn't going to the right places.

That's something that a lot of devs are forgetting these days. We, the costumers, are holding every card and they have nothing to say about it if they want to continue with getting food on their tables.

Seriously, this has nothing to do with entitlement and everything about ruining a beloved 10 year old character.

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#28 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

They're going about it completely wrong. A reboot is pretty stupid anyways since the series was doing just fine and the story was never concluded.

JLF1

Who cares, I mean seriously as gamers why do we feel like were entitled to something? The games not out, we haven't seen the finished product. Hell we saw a trailer :roll: Why don't we wait and see.

Seeing as it us gamers that is paying these devs wages every month I do think we have a right to complain when we feel like our money isn't going to the right places.

That's something that a lot of devs are forgetting these days. We, the costumers, are holding every card and they have nothing to say about it if they want to continue with getting food on their tables.

Seriously, this has nothing to do with entitlement and everything about ruining a beloved 10 year old character.

It seems like it has to do with entitlement. Because still we haven't even seen the game. Seems like were whining about what were entitled to as well. What dante should look like. Who should be developing it. Ya but we don't write the checks. Also, you payed for DMC 1 & 3 they gave you what you wanted.

Now who are we to say what they do with that money seeing they already gave us those?

Again it leads to entitlement.

We got what we payed for. but if we don't get more of it we stop and cry in the toy store when mommy is shopping for some other kids birthday gift

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#29 JLF1
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It seems like it has to do with entitlement. Because still we haven't even seen the game. Seems like were whining about what were entitled to as well. What dante should look like. Who should be developing it.

Animal-Mother

And seeing as it's my $60 they are after I have every right to feel entitled.

So far they have done a poor job with both the design and dev they have choosen for the new DMC game.

Tell me again why I should not complain about this?

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#30 JLF1
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Now who are we to say what they do with that money seeing they already gave us those?

Again it leads to entitlement.

We got what we payed for. but if we don't get more of it we stop and cry in the toy store when mommy is shopping for some other kids birthday gift

Animal-Mother

We are the costumers, without us on their side they won't be able too feed their children anymore and it's only their fault.

Here's a simple question for you.

What do you think would happen if you or me did a poor decision at our jobs?

That's right we either changed our way or we are out of a job. Why should we treat game developers any different?

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#31 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

It seems like it has to do with entitlement. Because still we haven't even seen the game. Seems like were whining about what were entitled to as well. What dante should look like. Who should be developing it.

JLF1

And seeing as it's my $60 they are after I have every right to feel entitled.

So far they have done a poor job with both the design and dev they have choosen for the new DMC game.

Tell me again why I should not complain about this?

No, because your not obligated to buy it, and if they fail you don't have to buy it.

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#32 lamprey263
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"] it if it can at least come close to being as good as Bayonetta I'll be satisfiedfoxhound_fox


It won't. Hideki Kamiya isn't making it.

which is why I'm somewhat skeptical, but this is the make-it break-it sequel for the series, without the original creator around I think they'll see if they can keep the IP relevant and if not they won't bother for a while, move onto other IPs they've left in the dark for years
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#33 JLF1
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No, because your not obligated to buy it, and if they fail you don't have to buy it.

Animal-Mother



They are dependent on my money though.

I'm no obligated to buy it but if I don't they cease to exist.

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#34 blitzcloud
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This would be akin to taking Mario, removing his mustache and making him French electrician. For cripes sakes, the lead designer modeled this Dante after HIMSELF. How egotistical can you get? Not only ruining a beloved character, but doing so with your own mug.

foxhound_fox

Can we cut this crap please?

Head shape: no

Jawline: no

lips: definitely NO.

Hair: Nope (one is scruffy wavy hair, the other one has it pretty spiky)

nose: are you even looking the same pictures i'm looking?

Lips: Huh? NO.

Eye shape: Nope.

Ear shape: yes yes..... no.

Skin tone: Hahahaha.

Necklace: Hey that's a yes, kind of.

I mean, the boomer from L4d has more likeness to Gabe Newell than this Dante to Antoniades. Obviously art isn't your career xD

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#36 savagetwinkie
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the new guy looks like someone that should be hit by a 18 wheeler and powerslide him into red streak on the pavement to make a grand entrance and red carpet of sorts for the original dante. why is he so dirty, even if they went with the emo look, they could still be clean, i know most emo's have a greesyness to them thats a bit unerving
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One franchise which i never cared for.Dibdibdobdobo
Good for you, millions do care.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

This would be akin to taking Mario, removing his mustache and making him French electrician. For cripes sakes, the lead designer modeled this Dante after HIMSELF. How egotistical can you get? Not only ruining a beloved character, but doing so with your own mug.

blitzcloud

Can we cut this crap please?

I don't know what your seeing but I totally can see Tameem in this new Dante only younger with slight few cosmetic differences. This guy loves himself. It doesn't look like the Dante in past DMCs whatsoever. What is with people saying oh his black hair will probably go white! Thats not going to make a difference in the slightest. He still looks like a scrawny emo no matter what hair color he has.

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#40 blitzcloud
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I don't know what your seeing but I totally can see Tameem in this new Dante only younger with slight few cosmetic differences. This guy loves himself. It doesn't look like the Dante in past DMCs whatsoever. What is with people saying oh his black hair will probably go white! Thats not going to make a difference in the slightest. He still looks like a scrawny emo no matter what hair color he has.

Dahaka-UK

So tameem looks emo following that logic? Also, autosuggestion, that's what makes you see Tameem there, when I could even bring a better lookalike by just...

Now that would be a similar face structue. (Hillary Swank, boys dont cry).

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Regarding the NEW DMC reboot, this is just the usual responses we all give when change is made, we hate ..rage say how stupid it looks, then onces its out and once we see that the new changes were needed and how the overall combat system actual feels good..we accept it and start to like it. People are just primitive and that's normal.(think Nintendo Wii) (MGS2 Raiden who turned into a bad ass)

Only difference i see in this dante and the old is the appearance, he will most likely be just as bad arse in character. Looks isn't everything, unless you swing that way. YEEESH!

I'm just going to laugh when people start enjoying the game. I'm pretter sure the combat will be solid and thats what counts.

Honestly hoping they really improve gameplay, the last game was just a reskinned DMC...change is needed, IMO.

soapandbubbles

actually the last game improved on previous DMCs in terms of combat. As dante, quick s tyle switching made the game so much more complex. Being able to switch on the fly between swordmaster, trickster, royal guard etc. as opposed to in the older dmcs having to open up the menu and choose which style to focus on. It allowed way more variety in combo chaining. New weapons and combos were introduced, not to mention an aerial-based fighter (nero).

Just curious, did you even play devil may cry 4?

if anything, seeing as it's a company new to the franchise and they're trying to appeal to a new crowd with the new character design, I would think that they would casualize the combat in order to be accessible by all demographics. I'm sure they're more worried about the game selling than pleasing all the hardcore DMC fans.

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#42 Vaasman
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There is no way in hell I will warm up to this new Dante. At best it just looks like they tried to appeal to some kind of punk emo fanbase, while butchering a well established character in the process. I'm hardly even a fan of DMC, but this is just ridiculous.

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#43 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

No, because your not obligated to buy it, and if they fail you don't have to buy it.

JLF1



They are dependent on my money though.

I'm no obligated to buy it but if I don't they cease to exist.

THeir no dependent on solely your money. One loss is laughable to them

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#44 foxhound_fox
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Old Dante looked like a reject from the matrix extras list, and just as much of a bad cliche. Trenchcoat and bare chest?...teh gheyKan0nF0dder

Why does everyone default to DMC3 Dante?



That was his original look. Quite a bit tamer than what he sports in DMC3... which is because in DMC3 he's basically a teenager rebelling against everyone and everything.

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#45 Merex760
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Regarding the NEW DMC reboot, this is just the usual responses we all give when change is made, we hate ..rage say how stupid it looks, then onces its out and once we see that the new changes were needed and how the overall combat system actual feels good..we accept it and start to like it. People are just primitive and that's normal.(think Nintendo Wii) (MGS2 Raiden who turned into a bad ass)

Only difference i see in this dante and the old is the appearance, he will most likely be just as bad arse in character. Looks isn't everything, unless you swing that way. YEEESH!

I'm just going to laugh when people start enjoying the game. I'm pretter sure the combat will be solid and thats what counts.

Honestly hoping they really improve gameplay, the last game was just a reskinned DMC...change is needed, IMO.

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He's still a hipster.
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#46 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

No, because your not obligated to buy it, and if they fail you don't have to buy it.

Animal-Mother



They are dependent on my money though.

I'm no obligated to buy it but if I don't they cease to exist.

THeir no dependent on solely your money. One loss is laughable to them

Did you seriously think I only meant my money? That's laughable as well :lol:

They are basically alienating their entire fanbase with this for a larger demographic. It might succed but they better not come running back to us if it fails.


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#47 xBluezx
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Everyone being pessimistic about the whole situation isn't going to help. Whining about his looks isn't going to change it. Crying about Ninja Theory isn't going to boot them off the project. Suck it up.

All we have seen is a cutscene. There is almost nothing we can judge on besides appearance, and that doesn't make the whole game. I gaurrantee that the majority of you have only played one Ninja Theory game, and you can only base your opinions of how this game will turn out on Heavenly Sword. Kung-Fu Chaos was a solid game and offered hours of fun. The looks to both of these games were great. It isn't like they are the only ones behind making the game, and a joint project 'can' be a good thing.

I did not say it will, I'm just willing to see how it turns out rather than bash it because of an image announcement and developer addition.

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#48 Gue1
Member since 2004 • 12171 Posts

Everyone being pessimistic about the whole situation isn't going to help. Whining about his looks isn't going to change it. Crying about Ninja Theory isn't going to boot them off the project. Suck it up.

All we have seen is a cutscene. There is almost nothing we can judge on besides appearance, and that doesn't make the whole game. I gaurrantee that the majority of you have only played one Ninja Theory game, and you can only base your opinions of how this game will turn out on Heavenly Sword. Kung-Fu Chaos was a solid game and offered hours of fun. The looks to both of these games were great. It isn't like they are the only ones behind making the game, and a joint project 'can' be a good thing.

I did not say it will, I'm just willing to see how it turns out rather than bash it because of an image announcement and developer addition.

xBluezx

It worked with Sucker Punch! So never say NEVER.

And if we don't buy the game and the sales doesn't surpass the 2m mark then the Twilight reject is never going to come back again. Remember, if you don't like new Dante but want to buy the game then you can always get it used...

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#49 Fizzman
Member since 2003 • 9895 Posts

game's gonna be awful.

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#50 Espada12
Member since 2008 • 23247 Posts

I'll buy it and hate every second of it but I like DMC so I'll still try it.