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#1 MoneyGa
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But lets be honest is anyone really playing there system online? Sony confrimed 400 thousand users half of those are online. Mircosoft confrimed 5 MILLION UNQIE USERS. All im saying is you cant compare the lag right now.
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Lag is dependent on several features.
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#3 michaelareb0001
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PS3 online is virtually lag free. If they don't up the servers when the user base increases, then argue the topic.

Plays 40 player matches all the time. Never had to worry about lag.

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#4 MoneyGa
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Lag is dependent on several features.sonicare
Good point but one HUGE factor is the amount of traffic.
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I tihnk it was 4 million ... out of 8.4 million install base... don't pull rabbits out of no where... my live expires on March 7th and then I am not renewing live... PSN is lag free and thats a pretty good deal... go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all...except xbox everywhere online play is free..
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#6 ColoradoKindBud
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I've played lots of FNR3, Resistance & RR7 online & haven't encountered any lag whatsoever.  So as far as I'm concerned, playing online with PS3 games has been lag-free so far.
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#7 MoneyGa
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I tihnk it was 4 million ... out of 8.4 million install base... don't pull rabbits out of no where... my live expires on March 7th and then I am not renewing live... PSN is lag free and thats a pretty good deal... go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all...except xbox everywhere online play is free..PS2Hawk
Why cant the cows face that there were 10.4 million sold? My 360 never lags what so ever.
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#8 Viviath
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PSN is lag free at the moment...who cares what the reasons are, all i care about is how it affects me.
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I have both PS3 and 360 and can't stand the online for PS3 as it is complete garbage compared to 360.
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#10 -supercharged-
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nothing is lag free
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#11 purplemidgets
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No online system is completely lag free. It's impossible
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I have both PS3 and 360 and can't stand the online for PS3 as it is complete garbage compared to 360. Steelspike
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#13 Kikouken
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Lag is inevitable.
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But lets be honest is anyone really playing there system online? Sony confrimed 400 thousand users half of those are online. Mircosoft confrimed 5 MILLION UNQIE USERS. All im saying is you cant compare the lag right now.MoneyGa

People have promised for 5 years that XBL would be lag free and have no cheaters.  How did that turn out? 

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[QUOTE="Steelspike"]I have both PS3 and 360 and can't stand the online for PS3 as it is complete garbage compared to 360. MoneyGa
THANK YOU...



I have both as well and I dont lag on either. I play Resistance almost every day online and have no problems and no lag with it. I play Gears online a bit but I get pissed when I get "disconnected" from the host when the game is 5/8 full and I try to enter. Both onlines are awsome
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#16 LosDaddie
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go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all.....PS2Hawk

And a unified friends list, better matchmaking, and better developer support.

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#17 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="MoneyGa"]But lets be honest is anyone really playing there system online? Sony confrimed 400 thousand users half of those are online. Mircosoft confrimed 5 MILLION UNQIE USERS. All im saying is you cant compare the lag right now.Rosencrantz

People have promised for 5 years that XBL would be lag free and have no cheaters.  How did that turn out? 

No cheaters is true and I rarely experience lag on XBL.

Sony has been promising PSN would be on par with XBL for years, how did that turn out?

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#18 MoneyGa
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[QUOTE="MoneyGa"]But lets be honest is anyone really playing there system online? Sony confrimed 400 thousand users half of those are online. Mircosoft confrimed 5 MILLION UNQIE USERS. All im saying is you cant compare the lag right now.Rosencrantz

People have promised for 5 years that XBL would be lag free and have no cheaters.  How did that turn out? 

With xbox 1 yes the first consle with TRUE online gaming of course its going to have cheaters but 360 i see no cheaters in gears RB6 and
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[QUOTE="Rosencrantz"]

[QUOTE="MoneyGa"]But lets be honest is anyone really playing there system online? Sony confrimed 400 thousand users half of those are online. Mircosoft confrimed 5 MILLION UNQIE USERS. All im saying is you cant compare the lag right now.LosDaddie

People have promised for 5 years that XBL would be lag free and have no cheaters. How did that turn out?

No cheaters is true and I rarely experience lag on XBL.

Sony has been promising PSN would be on par with XBL for years, how did that turn out?


No cheaters? I guess you havent played GeoW with glitchers eh?

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#20 GsSanAndreas
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From wat ive played  on  360 and PS3  i can say  that the 360 lagged at some points  during online,. ps3 didnt lag at all
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#21 MoneyGa
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From wat ive played  on  360 and PS3  i can say  that the 360 lagged at some points  during online,. ps3 didnt lag at allGsSanAndreas
READ THE POST EXPLAINING WHY.
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#22 gsx1100
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But lets be honest is anyone really playing there system online? Sony confrimed 400 thousand users half of those are online. Mircosoft confrimed 5 MILLION UNQIE USERS. All im saying is you cant compare the lag right now.MoneyGa
Personally I dont trust MS's figures.Does that figure include all the free trails they gave way and silver accounts? What about peopel who renew their account under different usernames?

Do you think there are 5 million people playing on Live now?

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#23 Javy03
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[QUOTE="PS2Hawk"]go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all.....LosDaddie

And a unified friends list, better matchmaking, and better developer support.

Unified friends list, I could care less, I am not trying to make friends online. Better matchmaking??? I click ranked matches on Resistance and I get in a game seems fine to me and better dev support is because its been out for a year, that will change for the PS3.
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#24 Javy03
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[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]From wat ive played on 360 and PS3 i can say that the 360 lagged at some points during online,. ps3 didnt lag at allMoneyGa
READ THE POST EXPLAINING WHY.

Not explaining, assuming
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#25 MoneyGa
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="PS2Hawk"]go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all.....Javy03

And a unified friends list, better matchmaking, and better developer support.

Unified friends list, I could care less, I am not trying to make friends online. Better matchmaking??? I click ranked matches on Resistance and I get in a game seems fine to me and better dev support is because its been out for a year, that will change for the PS3.

If you have family members or freinds you can see what game there playing and join a game in progress!. Invite them to prvitate chat and VIDEO CHAT. You can aslo compare games and look at there gamer card.
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#26 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Rosencrantz"]

[QUOTE="MoneyGa"]But lets be honest is anyone really playing there system online? Sony confrimed 400 thousand users half of those are online. Mircosoft confrimed 5 MILLION UNQIE USERS. All im saying is you cant compare the lag right now.Ken0690

People have promised for 5 years that XBL would be lag free and have no cheaters. How did that turn out?

No cheaters is true and I rarely experience lag on XBL.

Sony has been promising PSN would be on par with XBL for years, how did that turn out?


No cheaters? I guess you havent played GeoW with glitchers eh?

Rarely.

Those "cheaters" are just glitchers and the new patch is addressing them. You want cheaters? Check out PC gaming.

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#27 Ken0690
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[QUOTE="PS2Hawk"]go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all.....LosDaddie

And a unified friends list, better matchmaking, and better developer support.



-Wow....friends list...who doesnt have that...
-Better matchmaking?, trying to join a game on GeoW, is sometimes  pointless because sometimes it makes you join the same room in which you get the same notice "Connection to the host have failed" or something like that.
-Better Developer support? Yea I can agree with better developer support, such as the demos that xbox live have and ps3 doesnt have as of now...

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#28 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="PS2Hawk"]go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all.....Javy03

And a unified friends list, better matchmaking, and better developer support.

Unified friends list, I could care less, I am not trying to make friends online. Better matchmaking??? I click ranked matches on Resistance and I get in a game seems fine to me and better dev support is because its been out for a year, that will change for the PS3.

You just don't play online enough to know what a good system is. ;)

A unified friends list is part of what makes XBL so awesome.

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[QUOTE="Ken0690"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Rosencrantz"]

[QUOTE="MoneyGa"]But lets be honest is anyone really playing there system online? Sony confrimed 400 thousand users half of those are online. Mircosoft confrimed 5 MILLION UNQIE USERS. All im saying is you cant compare the lag right now.LosDaddie

People have promised for 5 years that XBL would be lag free and have no cheaters. How did that turn out?

No cheaters is true and I rarely experience lag on XBL.

Sony has been promising PSN would be on par with XBL for years, how did that turn out?


No cheaters? I guess you havent played GeoW with glitchers eh?

Rarely.

Those "cheaters" are just glitchers and the new patch is addressing them. You want cheaters? Check out PC gaming.



Heh, new gliches are already been made, it wont stop just like Socom, and I have to agree PC gaming have cheaters, ex. CSS, aimbots, wallhacks, speedhacks, etc, but all games have cheaters, theres isnt a game in which theres no glitches at all.
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#30 LosDaddie
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-Wow....friends list...who doesnt have that...Ken0690

I said a unified friends list.


-Better matchmaking?, trying to join a game on GeoW, is sometimes  pointless because sometimes it makes you join the same room in which you get the same notice "Connection to the host have failed" or something like that.Ken0690

Stop lying. Rarely do I get dropped from a GeOW match. Anyone who has played it online can back me up.

We can play GeOW tonight to see how many times we get dropped. ;)


-Better Developer support? Yea I can agree with better developer support, such as the demos that xbox live have and ps3 doesnt have as of now...

Ken0690

Good to see you aren't completely blind.

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#31 LosDaddie
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Heh, new gliches are already been made, it wont stop just like Socom, and I have to agree PC gaming have cheaters, ex. CSS, aimbots, wallhacks, speedhacks, etc, but all games have cheaters, theres isnt a game in which theres no glitches at all.
Ken0690

The "cheaters" on XBL are just people exploiting glitches. Hackers are unable to connect to XBL.

The cheaters on PC (and PS2) are using hacks and stuff like Gameshark.

There's a big difference.

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I tihnk it was 4 million ... out of 8.4 million install base... don't pull rabbits out of no where... my live expires on March 7th and then I am not renewing live... PSN is lag free and thats a pretty good deal... go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all...except xbox everywhere online play is free..PS2Hawk
Have you played anygame online besides Resistance,or are there any others?Resistance is most likely lag free because of the amount of work Insomniac put into the game,possibly,and im thinking when other online games get released they will have bad lag.But anyways,why is Microsoft charging Live users anyways?What kind of server do they have set up to make it cost monthly,on live a player in the party has to be the connection host...Microsoft servers arent hosting any games that I know of.It cant be for demos because microsoft gets all the money,no developers.O.o Ive always wondered about this,can anyone answer?
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I have both PS3 and 360 and can't stand the online for PS3 as it is complete garbage compared to 360. Steelspike

Fanboy alert. I have played both to as I used to own a 360 and now I own a  PS3. It's kinda ridiculous I use to experience lag in 16 player PDZ matches and experience absolutely none in RFOM 40 player matches. Also Resistance is faster then PDZ.

As for as multi player gaming goes PSN is better only thing really missing from it is voice chat. Wish they would have went with a headset standard but whatever at least I don't have to pay for something that should be free plus I get lag less games playing RFOM.

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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="PS2Hawk"]go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all.....Ken0690

And a unified friends list, better matchmaking, and better developer support.



-Wow....friends list...who doesnt have that...

a friend's list that I can check to see what my friends are playing right now, send chat invites that they can respond to while in any game, send messages or pictures to, and invites to any game wether they are playing that game or not.

-Better matchmaking?, trying to join a game on GeoW, is sometimes pointless because sometimes it makes you join the same room in which you get the same notice "Connection to the host have failed" or something like that.
 
Gears doesn't "make" you join in games, you get a list of hosts and what map they are running and you pick.

-Better Developer support? Yea I can agree with better developer support, such as the demos that xbox live have and ps3 doesnt have as of now...

and let's forget about the movies and television shows you can download on live, XBL arcade, and the multimedia streaming I can do from my laptop.


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[QUOTE="Ken0690"] Heh, new gliches are already been made, it wont stop just like Socom, and I have to agree PC gaming have cheaters, ex. CSS, aimbots, wallhacks, speedhacks, etc, but all games have cheaters, theres isnt a game in which theres no glitches at all.
LosDaddie

The "cheaters" on XBL are just people exploiting glitches. Hackers are unable to connect to XBL.

The cheaters on PC (and PS2) are using hacks and stuff like Gameshark.

There's a big difference.



I guess you havent played Socom 2-3, because you cant "hack" on the PS2, or use gameshark online because you will be banned, but that doesnt cheaters to do glitches, cheaters doing cheats are cheaters, there is no big difference.
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#36 SpruceCaboose
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    Look, lag and latency are going to be a factor on every system for the conceivible future. As not everyone is on the same network, nor does every person have their systems optimized, there will be lag.
    On top of that, you have people who share connections, who download things on their connections, or people who just limit their bandwidth.
    Lag is going to be a fact of life for online gaming for at least the next few years. True, you can get games that are relatively lag-free, but you will have lag on PCs, PSN, Xbox Live, and the Wii network.
    It happens. As long as more games are lag-free than riddled with lag, its all good.
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#37 onewiththegame
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Cow's love to wait so lets wait a year and see how the lag is going than with more games and (i think) more people on the network

"the 360 has been out a year you can't compare now" i hear that all the time

well it works both ways

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#38 Viviath
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[QUOTE="Ken0690"]
-Wow....friends list...who doesnt have that...LosDaddie

I said a unified friends list.


-Better matchmaking?, trying to join a game on GeoW, is sometimes pointless because sometimes it makes you join the same room in which you get the same notice "Connection to the host have failed" or something like that.Ken0690

Stop lying. Rarely do I get dropped from a GeOW match. Anyone who has played it online can back me up.

We can play GeOW tonight to see how many times we get dropped. ;)


-Better Developer support? Yea I can agree with better developer support, such as the demos that xbox live have and ps3 doesnt have as of now...

Ken0690

Good to see you aren't completely blind.

I get dropped a few times whilst playing gears but not to the extent of what some ppl are claiming. XBL is better than PSN atm...but PSN aint shabby...im really liking it...mostly due to resistance :D
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#39 InfamousC
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Cow's love to wait so lets wait a year and see how the lag is going than with more games and (i think) more people on the network

"the 360 has been out a year you can't compare now" i hear that all the time

well it works both ways

onewiththegame

This arguement fails because 360 was lagging back in Janauary of 06 when less people had the system compared to the more people that have the PS3 at the same time period now. Sorry but you fail.

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Im gonna play CSS now =]
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[QUOTE="Steelspike"]I have both PS3 and 360 and can't stand the online for PS3 as it is complete garbage compared to 360. InfamousC

Fanboy alert. I have played both to as I used to own a 360 and now I own a  PS3. It's kinda ridiculous I use to experience lag in 16 player PDZ matches and experience absolutely none in RFOM 40 player matches. Also Resistance is faster then PDZ.

As for as multi player gaming goes PSN is better only thing really missing from it is voice chat. Wish they would have went with a headset standard but whatever at least I don't have to pay for something that should be free plus I get lag less games playing RFOM.

T.T I cant believe you had a 360.If you experienced lag in a 16 player PDZ game,then it must have been your connection.Out of every PDZ game ive played online,even 32 players,ive never had the tiniest bit of lag.
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#42 ish_gibbor
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Online lag does not have much to do with the system. You can have a state of the art system and still have lag. You can travel to the future bring back a soopa doopa computer and hook it up to go online to not so good servers, and suppose his IP only gives him 300k down, and 100kup he is going to experience lag, no matter how awsome his computer, or playstation is.

If the system can play the game offline with no lag, then it can easily play it online with no lag. Therefore if you experience no lag offline but lag online, it is either the serves or your IP. If others are not complaining about lag, then check with your IP. Have them to a packet loss test for several minutes. You IP might be having hiccups. If it is the sever then others on that server will also experience lag.

Sometimes if one person enteres a server and he has a lame connection like dial up or 100k then he might cause others in that server to experience lag.

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Its all about the upload speed, 256k + is perfect, well in Australia it is :P
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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="PS2Hawk"]go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all.....LosDaddie

And a unified friends list, better matchmaking, and better developer support.

Unified friends list, I could care less, I am not trying to make friends online. Better matchmaking??? I click ranked matches on Resistance and I get in a game seems fine to me and better dev support is because its been out for a year, that will change for the PS3.

You just don't play online enough to know what a good system is. ;)

A unified friends list is part of what makes XBL so awesome.

agree'd

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#45 ilovesnowboard
Member since 2007 • 541 Posts
I've almost never lagged on xbox live..sometimes in Cod2, NEVER, and i mean never in Gow. It also depends on the connection of players and host.
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#46 Darth_Stalin
Member since 2005 • 8681 Posts
Lag depends on your connection and the ones of the people you play with. Wait till you start playing with people that have "red bar" connections, the ones that mooch off of other people's internet. Then you will experience lag. On my 360 I never experience lag until I play with people that have certain connections.
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#47 tango90101
Member since 2006 • 5977 Posts

[QUOTE="MoneyGa"]But lets be honest is anyone really playing there system online? Sony confrimed 400 thousand users half of those are online. Mircosoft confrimed 5 MILLION UNQIE USERS. All im saying is you cant compare the lag right now.Rosencrantz

People have promised for 5 years that XBL would be lag free and have no cheaters.  How did that turn out? 

 

it turned out pretty great actually.

better than pc gaming and better than PSN.

no online gaming will ever be lag free, but i've seen less lag and cheaters on xbox live than i've ever seen pc gaming and socom's cheating on the ps2's online was legendary...

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#48 LEGEND_C4A
Member since 2003 • 3186 Posts
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Rosencrantz"]

[QUOTE="MoneyGa"]But lets be honest is anyone really playing there system online? Sony confrimed 400 thousand users half of those are online. Mircosoft confrimed 5 MILLION UNQIE USERS. All im saying is you cant compare the lag right now.Ken0690

People have promised for 5 years that XBL would be lag free and have no cheaters. How did that turn out?

No cheaters is true and I rarely experience lag on XBL.

Sony has been promising PSN would be on par with XBL for years, how did that turn out?


No cheaters? I guess you havent played GeoW with glitchers eh?

yeah man but you can't blame that on the online service, any game can and will have glitches that anyone can take advantage of.

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#49 LEGEND_C4A
Member since 2003 • 3186 Posts
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="PS2Hawk"]go ahead andpay for live... u are just paying for the demos thats all.....Javy03

And a unified friends list, better matchmaking, and better developer support.

Unified friends list, I could care less, I am not trying to make friends online. Better matchmaking??? I click ranked matches on Resistance and I get in a game seems fine to me and better dev support is because its been out for a year, that will change for the PS3.

you don't have to make friends online, what kind of answer is that. don't you have friends already who have the PS3.

I have 71 people on my 360 friends list, 13 of them are my friends from the neigboorhood(people I actually hang with), and the rest are cool people I can play midway battlestations, rainbow six, ghost recon and other games and know that they won't be jerks and idiots.

its cool to know what games your friends are playing as they are playing them so you can join them or send them an invite to play another game. I just don't understand how anyone can't like friends list.,

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#50 Magical_Zebra
Member since 2003 • 7960 Posts

PS3 online is virtually lag free. If they don't up the servers when the user base increases, then argue the topic.

Plays 40 player matches all the time. Never had to worry about lag.

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I have seen the 40 player resistance matches and they are actually hectic and insane.