People seemed to have forgotten that Sony still has E3

I know things for Sony as a whole are looking bad, but that's not the point of the topic. Lets focus on the Vita. I've noticed that in many of these VITA DOOMED threads the majority of ppl fail to take E3 into consideration. Sony still has a chance to make Vita relevant at E3. Despite having heard rumors of many many canceled games there still is a chance that they may have some great surprises in store for E3. IF their E3 goes badly then I would agree with the notion that the Vita is finished. I'll be honest, I do not own a single current gen Sony system, and haven't touched my PSP in 5 years, but I'd still hate to see Sony go down. They may be an uncreative company *cough* Battle Royal *cough*, but if they go then things for gamers are only gonna get worse. The lack of competition will mean more absurd things we will have to put up with pricing wise. Am I right or am I right?

Sony will not go down.

But they do need to do something about the Vita. Let's hope they announce some games at E3.

People fail to take to take the unkown into consideration? Well, that's ok.

Sh*t, Sony could throw blind curve and not show much about the Vita.

3rd Parties don't want anything to do with Vita and I can see why. Have any of you actually looked at 3rd party game sales? Some of the worst ever.

E3 wont change that.

Vita was doomed before it even came out.Sony should leave the handheld business to Nintendo.With that said,im sure there will be a ps4/psOrbiz or whatever they call it.

Sony will not go down.

But they do need to do something about the Vita. Let's hope they announce some games at E3.

freedomfreak

Sony seems to be making all their big announcements before E3 and rarely do anything at E3 other than show games that are already known about.

They wouldn't allow Vita to get killed at retail for its year and lose confidence amoung consumers and investors just for the sake of making a splash at a trade show.

to be honest finical wise sony doesint seem to be doing good but gaming wise they keep giving the games. Though vita is in need of some love.

As I've said, I can imagine that Sony's E3 will be Vita-orientated.Ravensmash

Definitely. They are probably getting the PS3 stuff out of the way right now so they can focus on getting the Vita to succeed.

Sony is doooomed though. e3 doesn't matter. Boom shakalaka.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]As I've said, I can imagine that Sony's E3 will be Vita-orientated.NaveedLife

Definitely. They are probably getting the PS3 stuff out of the way right now so they can focus on getting the Vita to succeed.

to be honest finical wise sony doesint seem to be doing good but gaming wise they keep giving the games. Though vita is in need of some love.

finalfantasy94

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

to be honest finical wise sony doesint seem to be doing good but gaming wise they keep giving the games. Though vita is in need of some love.

koen57

Sony's gaming division is still losing money

hand over fist

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1229521/sony_playstation_3_price_cut_contributes_to_13_billion_loss.html

"Despite $23 billion in revenue, Sony's overall loss for the quarter was $2.03 billion, $1.09 billion of which was made by the Consumer Products and Services division - which houses PlayStation.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]As I've said, I can imagine that Sony's E3 will be Vita-orientated.groverslanding

Definitely. They are probably getting the PS3 stuff out of the way right now so they can focus on getting the Vita to succeed.

I don't own a Vita (I own a 3DS) and thus far have no reason to get one. I am just saying what is smart for Sony to do, and what I think they will do.

Nintendo will win E3 this year hands down.MercenaryMafia

I would have to agree with this, but anything is possible. Lol who am I kidding, of course they will :P.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]As I've said, I can imagine that Sony's E3 will be Vita-orientated.groverslanding

Definitely. They are probably getting the PS3 stuff out of the way right now so they can focus on getting the Vita to succeed.

I don't own a Sony system except a PSP which I haven't used in 5 years. Not a very proper picture to use especially considering the person you quoted.

I think this E3 will determine the fate of both 3DS and PSV.

Sony needs to deliver big time and Nintendo needs to adress the western markets.

Sony isn't going out of business, only dumb lemmings in Massive Damage Control think they are.

Sony Profits As PS3 Sales Double - PS3 News at IGN

And I expect E3 to go like this, from first place to last place:

1. Nintendo, the Wii U will probably be shown off and it will be the talk of the town. So Ninentendo will have a great show (There is a chance for Sony to take #1 over Nintendo)

2. Sony, their exclusive line up is VERY strong and it will get them A LOT of attention, so expect The Last of Us, All-Stars, and more to be shown off. Vita will also be focused on heavily I expect.

3. MS will be last as usual, just more Kinect games and some Halo 4 gameplay and that's it. They already said they won't reveal or talk about the next Xbox this year, period. They just said it will be year of the Kinect again.

Microsoft: No New Xbox talk in 2012, focus on Kinect - Xbox360 News at IGN

Sony isn't going out of business, only dumb lemmings in Massive Damage Control think they are.

Sony Profits As PS3 Sales Double - PS3 News at IGN

ShadowMoses900

PS3 lost Sony nearly 5 billion dollars by 2009

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/

Made a few hundred million in 2010 and it lost over a billion more in 2011.

PS3's division lost another 1.09 billion in 2011

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1229521/sony_playstation_3_price_cut_contributes_to_13_billion_loss.html

"Despite $23 billion in revenue, Sony's overall loss for the quarter was $2.03 billion, $1.09 billion of which was made by the Consumer Products and Services division - which houses PlayStation.

Overall it is down 6 billion this gen.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Sony isn't going out of business, only dumb lemmings in Massive Damage Control think they are.

Sony Profits As PS3 Sales Double - PS3 News at IGN

groverslanding

PS3 lost Sony nearly 5 billion dollars by 2009

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/

Made a few hundred million in 2010 and it lost over a billion more in 2011.

PS3's division lost another 1.09 billion in 2011

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1229521/sony_playstation_3_price_cut_contributes_to_13_billion_loss.html

"Despite $23 billion in revenue, Sony's overall loss for the quarter was $2.03 billion, $1.09 billion of which was made by the Consumer Products and Services division - which houses PlayStation.

Overall it is down 6 billion this gen.

"While the company's Networked Products and Services division, which includes PlayStation 3, still operated at a loss..."

You realize Sony hasn't had a good E3 in a couple years now right

Why? Are they being paid 6 billion to show up? Seriously, they need to reassess the current market. I know tons of first party exclusives are pleasing cows, but lets be real. It isnt making bank for them. Maybe cutting back is needed for the time being. I like games as much as anyone, but I'd rather see them do what they need to in order to have a long, relevant future, than pump out tons of exclusives, not make enough on them and slowly die because they cant change with a changing market.cainetao11

PS3 exclusives make them a ton of profit, just in a different way, let me explain: The average PS3 exclusive sells about 5-8 million, the average 360 exclusive defianetly sells a lot more. However this is because 360 owners don't have as many options, so MS put's their eggs all in one basket so to speak, if you want an FPS shooter on Xbox you can only buy Halo, so all the money just goes to that one game.

PS3 owners however, are much more forturnate, we have options. If we want a FPS we get to choose between Killzone, Resistance, MAG ect....so the money is spread is more spread out over those games. Same goes for many of the other genres, 360 just one game, PS3 multiple games. If you combine the sales from the PS3 exclusives they end up making the same amount (or more) as 360 exclusives do.

Just a different strategy, but it works, especially for the gamer because they get more options and more games to play. One title may not sale Halo records, but the exclusive sales combined do. Sony isn't going anywhere.

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Why? Are they being paid 6 billion to show up? Seriously, they need to reassess the current market. I know tons of first party exclusives are pleasing cows, but lets be real. It isnt making bank for them. Maybe cutting back is needed for the time being. I like games as much as anyone, but I'd rather see them do what they need to in order to have a long, relevant future, than pump out tons of exclusives, not make enough on them and slowly die because they cant change with a changing market.ShadowMoses900

PS3 exclusives make them a ton of profit, just in a different way, let me explain: The average PS3 exclusive sells about 5-8 million, the average 360 exclusive defianetly sells a lot more. However this is because 360 owners don't have as many options, so MS put's their eggs all in one basket so to speak, if you want an FPS shooter on Xbox you can only buy Halo, so all the money just goes to that one game.

PS3 owners however, are much more forturnate, we have options. If we want a FPS we get to choose between Killzone, Resistance, MAG ect....so the money is spread is more spread out over those games. Same goes for many of the other genres, 360 just one game, PS3 multiple games. If you combine the sales from the PS3 exclusives they end up making the same amount (or more) as 360 exclusives do.

Just a different strategy, but it works, especially for the gamer because they get more options and more games to play. One title may not sale Halo records, but the exclusive sales combined do. Sony isn't going anywhere.

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Why? Are they being paid 6 billion to show up? Seriously, they need to reassess the current market. I know tons of first party exclusives are pleasing cows, but lets be real. It isnt making bank for them. Maybe cutting back is needed for the time being. I like games as much as anyone, but I'd rather see them do what they need to in order to have a long, relevant future, than pump out tons of exclusives, not make enough on them and slowly die because they cant change with a changing market.ShadowMoses900

PS3 exclusives make them a ton of profit, just in a different way, let me explain: The average PS3 exclusive sells about 5-8 million, the average 360 exclusive defianetly sells a lot more. However this is because 360 owners don't have as many options, so MS put's their eggs all in one basket so to speak, if you want an FPS shooter on Xbox you can only buy Halo, so all the money just goes to that one game.

PS3 owners however, are much more forturnate, we have options. If we want a FPS we get to choose between Killzone, Resistance, MAG ect....so the money is spread is more spread out over those games. Same goes for many of the other genres, 360 just one game, PS3 multiple games. If you combine the sales from the PS3 exclusives they end up making the same amount (or more) as 360 exclusives do.

Just a different strategy, but it works, especially for the gamer because they get more options and more games to play. One title may not sale Halo records, but the exclusive sales combined do. Sony isn't going anywhere.

I bet they announce bailling out of the vita before it drags them down.

You realize Sony hasn't had a good E3 in a couple years now right

Crazyguy105

They has been much better than MS's with their staged Kinect demos....

You realize Sony hasn't had a good E3 in a couple years now right

Crazyguy105

must of been seeing differnt shows. From what I can recall sony was on top of last E3. Not by much but still.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

Sony will not go down.

But they do need to do something about the Vita. Let's hope they announce some games at E3.

ShadowDeathX

i hope sony announces the vita for $200 at e3. i would definitely buy it. though it might hurt them even more