Persona series = Best JRPG series?

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#1 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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There I said it, untill now not many have been brave enough to make such a thread,

More than likely due to the mass pillage and flaming the Topic master would recieve from the crowds of Final Fantasy fan boys

( and yes I just called myself topic master , as this is my topic I might go as far to declare myself topic king..)

The Final Fantasy series is getting stale, but it is still being hyped as the next messiah.

Wheres the hype for any persona game?

In MY opinion Persona is fresh and what the rpg market needs.

Therefore, Persona >>>(recent) Final Fantasy series

Your thoughts / Flame attacks ?

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#2 Mongo-Boss
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I'm not sure if it's Persona but it is in no way FF.
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#3 unknown37
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I like Persona, but I wouldn't call it the best JRPG Series, I might not even call it the best Shin Megami Tensei game
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#4 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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I'm not sure if it's Persona but it is in no way FF. Mongo-Boss
Whats your fave jrpg series?
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#5 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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I like Persona, but I wouldn't call it the best JRPG Series, I might not even call it the best Shin Megami Tensei gameunknown37
Whats your fave shin megami tensei game? My other would be digital devil saga 2
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#6 SirSpudly
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Persona is my favorite "Second series", but there is no way all four games (and if you must, Revelations: Demon Slayer) can top the Suikoden or Dragon Quest series.

There is not the depth nor insight to wrap a complete saga around the Persona games, and until that the series will not rival the primary JRPG schools.

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#7 Mongo-Boss
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[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]I'm not sure if it's Persona but it is in no way FF. scottiescott238
Whats your fave jrpg series?

Don't really have one since my favorite JRPGs are from different series but the FF series has faced a huge decline in quality.
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#8 unknown37
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[QUOTE="unknown37"]I like Persona, but I wouldn't call it the best JRPG Series, I might not even call it the best Shin Megami Tensei gamescottiescott238
Whats your fave shin megami tensei game? My other would be digital devil saga 2

IDK, maybe DDS, or normal Shin Megami Tensei
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Pokemon!?
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#10 RuinedMachine
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I liked Nocturne and DDS better than Persona 3. Haven't played 4.



Still though Xenogears > everything. Too bad Xenosaga sucked so much.
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#11 Flamestos
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In my opinion from what I played for the Atlus games it goes Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne>Digital Devil Saga>Persona>Devil Summoner. I can't comment on best JRPG series because they are still many I haven't played or completed yet.
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#12 jonnyt61
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In my opinion, I don't think there -is- a "best JRPG series" I think most fans of the genre, not just Final Fantasy, realize that in general each series has some strong titles, and some weak titles. Also, there are a number of JRPG's that aren't part of any series at all, and they're shining gems in the catalogue of JRPG's Really, to someone who isn't all that interested in JRPG's, they'll most likely always think Final Fantasy is the best, and that's mainly down to it's consistent quality in it's releases, even if they have waned a little in comparison to 10 and before, they're still very good games none the less. To JRPG fans in general? I'm willing to bet every single list is different in some way. I've never seen such a varied consensus on what players feel are the best JRPG's. I just don't think any real one will be the best to real fans.
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#13 heretrix
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Hmmm.If we were talking about pre FF X then I would say hell no. Those games were truly events, now it's really sad to see how badly Square has diluted the brand.

I played Persona 3: FES and thought it was pretty good, but I'm really not into the whole "anime teen fighting demons" thing. I dug the hell out of what they tried to do with Lost Odyessy though. JRPGs really need a new group of games that set it apart from all of the samey type stuff that Japan's been spewing out for the last decade.

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#14 jasonharris48
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P3 and P4 are the best JRPGs I've played since XenoGears (PSX) came out but I wouldn't say the Persona series is the best JRPG series now. As a whole though the MegaTen series is the best JRPG series to exsits besides Final Fantasy
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#15 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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No, they're good, but they're not phenomenal.
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#16 -CUBE-
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Imo and in my own eyes yes. And Persona3 is my favorite game of all time. :)
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#17 67gt500
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Reviewers are already using the term 'instant classic' to describe Persona 4...
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#18 Bentham
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Pretty much. Basically the entire SMT franchise is the best RPG series.
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#19 death919
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I prefer the Tales series, the Fire Emblem series, and RPG with Mario although my favourite Mario RPG would have to be Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga.
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#20 67gt500
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Hmmm.If we were talking about pre FF X then I would say hell no. Those games were truly events, now it's really sad to see how badly Square has diluted the brand.

I played Persona 3: FES and thought it was pretty good, but I'm really not into the whole "anime teen fighting demons" thing. I dug the hell out of what they tried to do with Lost Odyessy though. JRPGs really need a new group of games that set it apart from all of the samey type stuff that Japan's been spewing out for the last decade.

heretrix

Lost Odyssey is a step in the right direction, I'll agree... but really, P3 (and now P4) are breaking some of those 'samey' conventions that you mentioned and (not surprisingly) are being critically well-received as a result...

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Perhaps most inspired or most creative.
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#22 naruto7777
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no its definately FF
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#23 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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Epic Facepalm by drtchock.

Fail/10.

Last time I checked, everyone here hates the new Final Fantasy games, worships Persona games, and hyped Persona 4 to hell and back. You aren't freaking courageous when practically every JRPG fan on System Wars agrees with you.

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#24 black_tempest
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Epic Facepalm by drtchock.

Fail/10.

Last time I checked, everyone here hates the new Final Fantasy games, worships Persona games, and hyped Persona 4 to hell and back. You aren't freaking courageous when practically every JRPG fan on System Wars agrees with you.

I don't :D
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#25 Skylarkell
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I still love Final Fantasy but I love SMT a lot more recently.

After FFX it's gone downhill.

Fire Emblem (if you consider it one), Tales and Suidoken (sp?) are good as well.

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#26 Skylarkell
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Epic Facepalm by drtchock.

Fail/10.

Last time I checked, everyone here hates the new Final Fantasy games, worships Persona games, and hyped Persona 4 to hell and back. You aren't freaking courageous when practically every JRPG fan on System Wars agrees with you.

DeathScape666

Whoever made that montage like Kyon a lot, they used his facepalm pic like 5 times, the only repeating one.

Look at you being a rebel :roll:

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#27 foxhound_fox
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I need to play 1, 2 and 4 still but since it is Atlus and SMT, it is up there.
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[QUOTE="Skylarkell"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Epic Facepalm by drtchock.

Fail/10.

Last time I checked, everyone here hates the new Final Fantasy games, worships Persona games, and hyped Persona 4 to hell and back. You aren't freaking courageous when practically every JRPG fan on System Wars agrees with you.

Whoever made that montage like Kyon a lot, they used his facepalm pic like 5 times, the only repeating one.

Look at you being a rebel :roll:

How the hell am I being a rebel? Most JRPG fans here hate the new Final Fantasy and love Persona. I can't believe people don't freaking realize this, but believe it or not, people have converted, and now barely anyone likes Final Fantasy. People thinking they are different for liking Persona more than Final Fantasy are now just part of the majority.
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#29 foxhound_fox
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How the hell am I being a rebel? Most JRPG fans here hate the new Final Fantasy and love Persona. I can't believe people don't freaking realize this, but believe it or not, people have converted, and now barely anyone likes Final Fantasy. People thinking they are different for liking Persona more than Final Fantasy are now just part of the majority.DeathScape666

Thanks to Persona 3, a lot of people have finally come to appreciate a great series. It only seems to you that there is a horde of raving fanboys hyping it to hell and back because before Persona 3, no one talked about the games at all.
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#30 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]How the hell am I being a rebel? Most JRPG fans here hate the new Final Fantasy and love Persona. I can't believe people don't freaking realize this, but believe it or not, people have converted, and now barely anyone likes Final Fantasy. People thinking they are different for liking Persona more than Final Fantasy are now just part of the majority.foxhound_fox

Thanks to Persona 3, a lot of people have finally come to appreciate a great series. It only seems to you that there is a horde of raving fanboys hyping it to hell and back because before Persona 3, no one talked about the games at all.

I'm not dissing the game at all, but the TC acts like he is in the minority and is special because of it when he is quite actually in the majority.
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#31 Skylarkell
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]How the hell am I being a rebel? Most JRPG fans here hate the new Final Fantasy and love Persona. I can't believe people don't freaking realize this, but believe it or not, people have converted, and now barely anyone likes Final Fantasy. People thinking they are different for liking Persona more than Final Fantasy are now just part of the majority.foxhound_fox

Thanks to Persona 3, a lot of people have finally come to appreciate a great series. It only seems to you that there is a horde of raving fanboys hyping it to hell and back because before Persona 3, no one talked about the games at all.

I still love FF, Foxhound just said what I was going to say.

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#32 foxhound_fox
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I'm not dissing the game at all, but the TC acts like he is in the minority and is special because of it when he is quite actually in the majority.DeathScape666

There are still plenty of FF and DQ fans that tilt there head when you mention the words "Shin Megami Tensei" or "Persona." People who favour SMT or Persona games are still in the minority when it comes to the larger picture. FF and DQ are huge mainstream hits. Persona especially is very niche... which is one of the reasons why Atlus released it on PS2, because it wouldn't be very successful on the low-install base PS3.
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]I'm not dissing the game at all, but the TC acts like he is in the minority and is special because of it when he is quite actually in the majority.foxhound_fox

There are still plenty of FF and DQ fans that tilt there head when you mention the words "Shin Megami Tensei" or "Persona." People who favour SMT or Persona games are still in the minority when it comes to the larger picture. FF and DQ are huge mainstream hits. Persona especially is very niche... which is one of the reasons why Atlus released it on PS2, because it wouldn't be very successful on the low-install base PS3.

Well, on System Wars, the Shin Megami Tensei Person fans have spoken a hell of a lot louder. And the Square Enix haters have spoken even louder. I can't think of too many people on here praising Square Enix in recent times. How am I only the one that notices this? People are claiming that this and White Knight Chronicles will undoubtfully be better than Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy Versus XIII with the utmost certainty. When was the last time people on here were actually excited for either Final Fantasy game? The niche games take over here in System Wars.

That's why you hear so much about Shadow of the Collosus, No More Heroes, Okami, and such. I'm sure they aren't bad games, but they do get a lot of attention mostly because they are niche. This is coming from someone who loves No More Heroes, and wants to play Shadow of the Collosus after missing out on it.

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#34 Skylarkell
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I'm not dissing the game at all, but the TC acts like he is in the minority and is special because of it when he is quite actually in the majority.DeathScape666

Here on GS, he might be the majority but around the world, hell no.

FF and DQ still have much bigger fanbases.

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#35 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"] I'm not dissing the game at all, but the TC acts like he is in the minority and is special because of it when he is quite actually in the majority.Skylarkell

Here on GS, he might be the majority but around the world, hell no.

FF and DQ still have much bigger fanbases.

I 100 percent agree with this statement. Trust me, I know the real world. :P But as hardcore gamers (or whatever you want to call everyone on a gaming forum), we know more about niche games. So yes, you are correct.
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#36 MasterC5
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There I said it, untill now not many have been brave enough to make such a thread,

More than likely due to the mass pillage and flaming the Topic master would recieve from the crowds of Final Fantasy fan boys

( and yes I just called myself topic master , as this is my topic I might go as far to declare myself topic king..)

The Final Fantasy series is getting stale, but it is still being hyped as the next messiah.

Wheres the hype for any persona game?

In MY opinion Persona is fresh and what the rpg market needs.

Therefore, Persona >>>(recent) Final Fantasy series

Your thoughts / Flame attacks ?

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at first I was like

BUT THEN I LOL'D

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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]How the hell am I being a rebel? Most JRPG fans here hate the new Final Fantasy and love Persona. I can't believe people don't freaking realize this, but believe it or not, people have converted, and now barely anyone likes Final Fantasy. People thinking they are different for liking Persona more than Final Fantasy are now just part of the majority.foxhound_fox

Thanks to Persona 3, a lot of people have finally come to appreciate a great series. It only seems to you that there is a horde of raving fanboys hyping it to hell and back because before Persona 3, no one talked about the games at all.

Oh lord, P3 is going to become the FF7 of the SMT franchise. :cry:

In all honesty, Atlus is really starting to eclipse Square Enix as my favorite RPG developers. I absolutely love P3, P4, and the DDS games. The last time I had this much fun playing a turn based RPG was probably with FFX.

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#38 AdrianWerner
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TO me it is. Always prefered them over the pure insanity of SMT :) Plus they never feel as restricted as non-Atlus jRPGs
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#39 MasterC5
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]How the hell am I being a rebel? Most JRPG fans here hate the new Final Fantasy and love Persona. I can't believe people don't freaking realize this, but believe it or not, people have converted, and now barely anyone likes Final Fantasy. People thinking they are different for liking Persona more than Final Fantasy are now just part of the majority.Lionheart08


Thanks to Persona 3, a lot of people have finally come to appreciate a great series. It only seems to you that there is a horde of raving fanboys hyping it to hell and back because before Persona 3, no one talked about the games at all.

Oh lord, P3 is going to become the FF7 of the SMT franchise

Except you know persona 3 was actually fun and it didn't have 1 dimensional characters.

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#40 Godofnerdyness
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Hmm, well I've only played Persona 3, and I'll be off to get 4 on friday.... So I can't say if it's the best since I've never touched the first two. But all I can say is Persona 3 is my favourite game.....

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#41 jasonharris48
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I still like the FF series a tad bit more than the Persona series. Even though I thought the FF titles were going downhill when FFX came then I got the chance to FFXII made me change my mind. But if we were to compare the the whole MegaTen series (except for Demi kids) to the FF series I say I prefer the MegaTen series IMO.
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#42 death919
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Should I get Persona 3 first or Persona 4 first?
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#43 Lionheart08
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Should I get Persona 3 first or Persona 4 first?death919
Either will do to be honest. P4 is a vast improvement in the gameplay department so P3 will feel like a downgrade if you play it second.
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Xenogears, Xenosaga Series Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross Final Fantasy Series Vagrant Story Legend of The Dragoon Persona Series Digital Devil Saga Series Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne .hack//G.U Series Shadow Hearts Series Suikoden Series
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#45 PearlOfHeaven
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Yes. SMT and the persona series are the best jrpg currently out on a game console.
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#46 yokofox33
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The Shin Megami Tensei series as a whole is the best JRPG series in my mind. Persona 4 happens to be my favorite of the lot, but Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 are close behind it. Even the "mediocre" Devil Summoner is still pretty darn good. I like everything about SMT. I just wish I could get access to the actual SMT stand alone series that started it all.

I'd say Pokemon and Final Fantasy round out my top 3 JRPG franchises.

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#47 double_heist
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They're good, I loved Persona 4. I found Persona 4 better than FFXII and FFX-2. :P
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#48 shutdown_202
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Yes, at the moment it is. Although im expecting FF to take that crown back this December. I really need to start playing other SMT games. Whats the best after Persona?

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#49 double_heist
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Yes, at the moment it is. Although im expecting FF to take that crown back this December. I really need to start playing other SMT games. Whats the best after Persona?

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SMT: Nocturne Digital Devil Saga
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#50 kidcool189
Member since 2008 • 4307 Posts
it is certainly up there, along with persona 4 being one of my all together favorite games of all time ...just cant wait for that special day of an offical announcement of persona 5(im hoping the next SMT entry is a persona game)...hopefully being on the ps3 and/or 360