Peter Molyneux says that less is more for Fable 2.

:? I do not know about you guys, but limiting the combat system, spells, ect to only a small handful of simple options sounds to me like the game could get repetitive awfully fast for an RPG. I am still excited as hell for Fable 2 though, as I loved the first one. What do you guys think? Link:

http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=170291

I don't mind, I think the original made you think a little too much about what action to use in the thick of battle personally. He recently made a statement that combat in these type of games needs to feel cool and very kinetic above all else, its worth trying.

I haven't read too much into Fable 2 yet, but one thing I do hope for is a free roaming open world this time like the original should have had.

"quality over quantity" doesn't mean jack s*** here on SW.

I'm stilllooking forward to Fable 2.

Molyneaux is killing this game.

Less is more for an RPG :?

One Button Combat System :?

He might as well say that he's lazy and has given up.

"quality over quantity" doesn't mean jack s*** here on SW.

I'm stilllooking forward to Fable 2.

Bansheesdie

"bu-bu-but molyneux promised things his game didnt have!"

Molyneaux is killing this game.

Less is more for an RPG :?

One Button Combat System :?

He might as well say that he's lazy and has given up.

MikeE21286

I think of it more as a deep action/adventure personally, like Zelda with customization. But thats just me :P

Mr. Molyneux blabberin about more garbage..

Just maybe, Fable 2 will be half the game he says it will be. I might pick it up if I still have my 360 by the time..doubt it though.

So instead of getting 100 bland magic spells that all do the same thing, you get 20 unique magic spells. I think that sounds better.ProductofChina

Games like WoW or Guild Wars have many many more than 20 unique spells, Guild Wars has something like 150 PER class.

20 unique spells isn't very creative still.

Oblivion had a lot of repetitive spells, but if you just count the unique types of effects, there were probably around 50-70.

20 spells isn't a lot no matter how you spin it.

Molyneaux is killing this game.

Less is more for an RPG :?

One Button Combat System :?

He might as well say that he's lazy and has given up.

MikeE21286

I do not know about him being lazy and giving up, lol, but I sort of agree with the rest of your post, and that is what concerned me about his "less is more" comment. I was hoping that he would deliver in trying to perfect on what he originally aimed for with Fable 1. I mean, the more options, and ways to play the game that you have, the more replay value you are going to get out of it is the way that I see it.

Regardless, I am still excited for the game, as I really dug the first one, I was just hoping that Fable 2 was going to be bigger, better, with more choices in order to make a timeless game that you never really get tired of playing because of all of the various choices that you have. We shall see I suppose.

Thats not a bad thing. Simpler is sometimes better.

[QUOTE="ProductofChina"]So instead of getting 100 bland magic spells that all do the same thing, you get 20 unique magic spells. I think that sounds better.Big_Red_Button

Games like WoW or Guild Wars have many many more than 20 unique spells, Guild Wars has something like 150 PER class.

20 unique spells isn't very creative still.

Oblivion had a lot of repetitive spells, but if you just count the unique types of effects, there were probably around 50-70.

20 spells isn't a lot no matter how you spin it.

In WoW sme classes you dont need more than 20. Hell,some classes like the hunter can get away with using 10 full time

havent you people seen theCharmin commercials :evil:hobbit93

LMAO....indeed. But, the thing is, what advertisements say is more times then not quite different from the reality of the situation in the end. How many times have you used "less" Charmin, only to have your fingers rip through the paper?:lol: In essence....sometimes more is better.

So instead of getting 100 bland magic spells that all do the same thing, you get 20 unique magic spells. I think that sounds better.ProductofChina

You should play a really good RPG like Baldurs Gate 2. It's not as if there isn't enough influence out there.

It just sounds like Peter is damage controlling. He speaks about his games as if they are the greatest thing since the invention of electricity. :?

[QUOTE="ProductofChina"]So instead of getting 100 bland magic spells that all do the same thing, you get 20 unique magic spells. I think that sounds better.Lilac_Benjie

You should play a really good RPG like Baldurs Gate 2. It's not as if there isn't enough influence out there.

Exactly, but still, who is to say that all of the spells will automatically be "bland" just because there is a wide variety of them to choose from, lol? I personally think that Lionhead just has a fear of making the game too complex because they know that it will not sell anywhere near as well if made that way. Too bad for the people who love deep, complex RPG's I guess. I still think it will be a good game though, just limited.:(

[QUOTE="ProductofChina"]So instead of getting 100 bland magic spells that all do the same thing, you get 20 unique magic spells. I think that sounds better.Lilac_Benjie

You should play a really good RPG like Baldurs Gate 2. It's not as if there isn't enough influence out there.

That is one of my top 3 rpgs of all time.

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

[QUOTE="ProductofChina"]So instead of getting 100 bland magic spells that all do the same thing, you get 20 unique magic spells. I think that sounds better.sonicare

You should play a really good RPG like Baldurs Gate 2. It's not as if there isn't enough influence out there.

That is one of my top 3 rpgs of all time.

It just sounds like Peter is damage controlling. He speaks about his games as if they are the greatest thing since the invention of electricity. :?

dracula_16

no..he just knows what hes talking about.

Molyneaux is killing this game.

Less is more for an RPG :?

One Button Combat System :?

He might as well say that he's lazy and has given up.

MikeE21286

Give it a chance, the one button combat system is not as simple as pressing the button to swing the blade and holding the button to power up.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

[QUOTE="ProductofChina"]So instead of getting 100 bland magic spells that all do the same thing, you get 20 unique magic spells. I think that sounds better.Panzer_Zwei

You should play a really good RPG like Baldurs Gate 2. It's not as if there isn't enough influence out there.

That is one of my top 3 rpgs of all time.

Planescape is another in my top 3. Fallout would make my top 5 :)

I'm not that worried about the choice list being small because there were few spells in Fable in the first place but to make up for that, they were completely different from each other.

I'm much more worried about the quests being very linear again as well as short. Taking advantage of the shield and slow time spells in addition to the fact that enemies get stronger as you do, I overpowered my character and blew through Fable in less than 18hours while finishing all the sidequests. Shortest and easiest RPG I've ever played.

The things you can do in this game are amazing, if everything he says gets into it. I think it'll get 8.5-9. But it might be game of the year if everything works out (one button attacks ex.) If it doesn't it still will be pretty good but we have to wait and see.

[QUOTE="ProductofChina"]So instead of getting 100 bland magic spells that all do the same thing, you get 20 unique magic spells. I think that sounds better.Lilac_Benjie

You should play a really good RPG like Baldurs Gate 2. It's not as if there isn't enough influence out there.

Exactly Baldur's Gate 2 had around 20+ spells per level, and as far as I can remember all of them were useful depending on how you made your character,

If Fable delivers on all of its promises, then it will be an incredible game. But as with anything Molyneux does, it's better to wait until it comes out to see what happens before getting too hyped up. Fable 2 still isn't quite the Project Ego concept, even if it turns out as it should, but it's pretty close.

Still, he's got a point. Sheer volume doesn't help if everything there doesn't really contribute. It's more important to make sure that every spell and ability has an impact than to have lots of spells or abilities.

I kinda like Molyneux. He tends to aim very high, and there are problems as a result of that, but he really gets excited about these concepts, and you can tell that he really likes making these games, and bringing his ideas to life. Just seeing him gush about how awesome it was that you didn't directly control the dog in Fable 2 showed me how passionate he is.

Molyneaux is killing this game.

Less is more for an RPG :?

One Button Combat System :?

He might as well say that he's lazy and has given up.

MikeE21286

Many RPG's have one button combat system.

DO NOT LISTEN TO PETER! THe game will be good but he overhypes his games a ton. You shouldn't be dissapointed as log as you don't listen to his hypes.bc1391

http://www.popcultureshock.com/pcs-tv-peter-molyneux-interview/42463/

DO NOT LISTEN TO PETER! THe game will be good but he overhypes his games a ton. You shouldn't be dissapointed as log as you don't listen to his hypes.bc1391

http://www.popcultureshock.com/pcs-tv-peter-molyneux-interview/42463/

I'm interested in Fable 2 more than ever. He is correct in saying less is more.

Let's just see if he knows howt to apply that to his video game.

So instead of getting 100 bland magic spells that all do the same thing, you get 20 unique magic spells. I think that sounds better.ProductofChina

Agree quality > quantity,good example would be bioshock

With the way this guy overhypes/underdelivers you would think he was a Sony employee...buuzer0

^^lol.funny stuff.

This game sounds pretty good so far..ive read/watched most of the interview,and now im intrigued about this games success