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#1 Master_ShakeXXX
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:lol: Not exactly, but here is what a PG admin/translator had to say about their Vanquish review...

http://twitter.com/PG_jp/status/27402569038

@NickRoxNRX Even in Casual Auto it doesn't make sense, nor is it indicative of how long a normal gamer's playthough would take.

GameInformer: "Don't be surprised if you finish your first playthrough in four hours."

PG: "Really? Because it would surprise the hell out of us."

That's very interesting. Perhaps the game length is more around the 6 hour mark like Planet Xbox 360 suggested.

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#2 AmayaPapaya
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Yes PG, stick it to GI:lol:

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#3 LegatoSkyheart
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Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

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#4 Fightingfan
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Maybe they put it on the easiest setting and just rushed. I can beat Demon's soul in 2 hours with my level 712 character doesn't mean the game is 2 hours long.
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#5 AznKSor
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:lol: Not exactly, but here is what a PG admin/translator had to say about their Vanquish review...

http://twitter.com/PG_jp/status/27402569038

@NickRoxNRX Even in Casual Auto it doesn't make sense, nor is it indicative of how long a normal gamer's playthough would take.

"GameInformer: "Don't be surprised if you finish your first playthrough in four hours."

PG: "Really? Because it would surprise the hell out of us."

That's very interesting. Perhaps the game length is more around the 6 hour mark like Planet Xbox 360 suggested.

Master_ShakeXXX

http://twitter.com/PG_jp/status/27402569038 And back on Topic...:lol:

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#6 istreakforfood
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They really showed them.

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#7 moose_knuckler
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":lol: Not exactly" Well you dragged me in here with that :P.
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#8 finalfantasy94
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Wait the review put it on easy to beat? wow fail review then. You have to beat it on deafult normal.

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#9 Allicrombie
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For hard hitting game journalism, its Game Informer! =P
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#10 Ravensmash
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Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

LegatoSkyheart
They're standing up for their product, and what they believe is untrue. They'd be foolish not to.
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#11 FragTycoon
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See, I almost wrote this game off based on one review... stay tuned, it may be a good game.

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#12 Master_ShakeXXX
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Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

LegatoSkyheart

Wouldn't you if an inept reviewer was spreading false information about your game?

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#13 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

Ravensmash

They're standing up for their product, and what they believe is untrue. They'd be foolish not to.

I guess so. since they are the Developers.

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#14 bbkkristian
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Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

LegatoSkyheart

Yes, but GI has some really poor reviews on some many good games...

WAIT A MINUTE!! :lol: They're really getting mad over a 7.75??? Wow... I didn't see SE go nuts when GS gave its game a 4.0. :lol: Very unprofessional

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

Ravensmash
They're standing up for their product, and what they believe is untrue. They'd be foolish not to.

Ditto.. its their creation after all.
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#16 -Snooze-
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I can beat Demon's soul in 2 hours with my level 712 character doesn't mean the game is 2 hours long.Fightingfan

Oh snap, you've gotta be some sort of sorcerer

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#17 AmayaPapaya
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But guys, you must remember this is GI we are talking about. They are probably the worst reviewers out there.

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#18 finalfantasy94
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Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

LegatoSkyheart

If someone wrongfuly judge your work wouldint you say something. Kind of like when that IGN reviewer said castlevania LOS wasint like any other castlevania cause it didint have metroidvania gameplay. Thats a failuer as a reviewer.

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I do declare....GI just got owned.
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#20 FIipMode
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Heh, interesting, I'll see what Ars, Eurogamer, and GB have to say about the length, maybe GI rushed the hell out of it on easy, which is something I never do when I play a game.
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#21 johny300
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I would react the same tbh.
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#22 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] I can beat Demon's soul in 2 hours with my level 712 character doesn't mean the game is 2 hours long.-Snooze-

Oh snap, you've gotta be some sort of sorcerer

Maxed everything but yes. Magic is eber-pwnage.
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#23 Bigboi500
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Why is everyone getting so worked up over an arcade shooter?

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

bbkkristian

Yes, but GI has some really poor reviews on some many good games...

WAIT A MINUTE!! :lol: They're really getting mad over a 7.75??? Wow... I didn't see SE go nuts when GS gave its game a 4.0. :lol: Very unprofessional

It was so professional of Game Informer to make a false claim though...
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

Ravensmash
They're standing up for their product, and what they believe is untrue. They'd be foolish not to.

This, why not say something about your game you know not to be true? PG knows better than any one how long there game is. Besides, game length varies from player to player.
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#26 dovberg
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

bbkkristian

Yes, but GI has some really poor reviews on some many good games...

WAIT A MINUTE!! :lol: They're really getting mad over a 7.75??? Wow... I didn't see SE go nuts when GS gave its game a 4.0. :lol: Very unprofessional

PG seems to have passion for their games...doesn't look like SE does but I could say that based on the games themselves as well.

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#27 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] I can beat Demon's soul in 2 hours with my level 712 character doesn't mean the game is 2 hours long.Fightingfan

Oh snap, you've gotta be some sort of sorcerer

Maxed everything but yes. Magic is eber-pwnage.

I meant in real life, but your explanation sounds far more realistic

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#28 JohnF111
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Maybe they put it on the easiest setting and just rushed. I can beat Demon's soul in 2 hours with my level 712 character doesn't mean the game is 2 hours long.Fightingfan
Agreed, and reviewers always rush so they are the first to post their results... Basically reviews are clear results of a games length but are inaccurate?..What a mouthful...

Wait... a games length is dictated by a review as being short but the review is wrong in being correct?

A review is meant to show the truth and unbiased but is false and biased at the same time. :?

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#29 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

bbkkristian

Yes, but GI has some really poor reviews on some many good games...

WAIT A MINUTE!! :lol: They're really getting mad over a 7.75??? Wow... I didn't see SE go nuts when GS gave its game a 4.0. :lol: Very unprofessional

I think its less about the score and more about a claim that seems completely wrong.
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#30 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

rolo107

Yes, but GI has some really poor reviews on some many good games...

WAIT A MINUTE!! :lol: They're really getting mad over a 7.75??? Wow... I didn't see SE go nuts when GS gave its game a 4.0. :lol: Very unprofessional

It was so professional of Game Informer to make a false claim though...

My bad I meant it was unprofessional of the devs of Vanquish :P
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#31 tomarlyn
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I really hope its longer than 4 hours the first time through. That statement from GI really took the shine off for me. I'll wait for what the average player says.
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#32 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="rolo107"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] Yes, but GI has some really poor reviews on some many good games...

WAIT A MINUTE!! :lol: They're really getting mad over a 7.75??? Wow... I didn't see SE go nuts when GS gave its game a 4.0. :lol: Very unprofessional

bbkkristian

It was so professional of Game Informer to make a false claim though...

My bad I meant it was unprofessional of the devs of Vanquish :P

No it wasn't. I think it's perfectly reasonable. And if further reviews come that show the game is longer, then it'll be obvious who's right.

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#33 Yangire
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See, I almost wrote this game off based on one review... stay tuned, it may be a good game.

FragTycoon

And this is the whole reason why they responded, so review centric gamers don't skip their game.

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#34 Minishdriveby
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I don't see why anyone would look to game informer for information. Their magazine is riddled with spelling/grammatical errors. I'm sure other errors can be found too like the 4 hours of gameplay.
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#36 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="rolo107"] It was so professional of Game Informer to make a false claim though...hexashadow13

My bad I meant it was unprofessional of the devs of Vanquish :P

No it wasn't. I think it's perfectly reasonable. And if further reviews come that show the game is longer, then it'll be obvious who's right.

(it really was a mistake :lol: ) But both are at fault. :x

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#37 Sw33tChilLi
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Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

LegatoSkyheart
Why wouldn't they? If the review is spreading false information that could affect the games sales / metacritic (and believe me, devs do care about metacritic), then they should be annoyed. I know I would.
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#38 dkdk999
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well i wouldn't surprised if gameinformer did misrepresent the game. They seem to have some of the worst reviews in my experience.
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#39 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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sounds like they are yelling at reviewers more than putting time into the story :P

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I noticed that the GameInformer review it's self felt extremely rushed and amatuerish. There are so many things in the game they neglected to mention, challenge modes, replay value, and upgrades being the biggest (the Planet Xbox 360 review by comparison was FAR more thorough). I realise this is a magazine and they have limited page space, but why not ditch the worthless crap about cheesy dialogue and story to talk about more important game elements? For christ sake we KNEW the game would have a cheesy story and dialogue when we saw the first few freaking trailers. I wouldn't doubt it if the reviewer rushed through on easy and slapped a score on it afterwards.

PG'scomments only serve to back this up.

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I noticed that the GameInformer review it's self felt extremely rushed and amatuerish. There are so many things in the game they neglected to mention, challenge modes, replay value, and upgrades being the biggest (the Planet Xbox 360 review by comparison was FAR more thorough). I realise this is a magazine and they have limited page space, but why not ditch the worthless crap about cheesy dialogue and storyto talk aboutmore important game elements? For christ sake we KNEW the game would have a cheesy story and dialogue when we saw the first few freaking trailers. I wouldn't doubt it if the reviewer rushed through on easy and slapped a score on it afterwards.

Master_ShakeXXX
If the demo is anything to go by then the story and acting is definitely worth highlighting. Its absolutely terrible and the main character is a complete moron. Thats why I switched to Japanese audio with subtitles.
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#42 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I noticed that the GameInformer review it's self felt extremely rushed and amatuerish. There are so many things in the game they neglected to mention, challenge modes, replay value, and upgrades being the biggest (the Planet Xbox 360 review by comparison was FAR more thorough). I realise this is a magazine and they have limited page space, but why not ditch the worthless crap about cheesy dialogue and storyto talk aboutmore important game elements? For christ sake we KNEW the game would have a cheesy story and dialogue when we saw the first few freaking trailers. I wouldn't doubt it if the reviewer rushed through on easy and slapped a score on it afterwards.

tomarlyn

If the demo is anything to go by then the story and acting is definitely worth highlighting. Its absolutely terrible and the main character is a complete moron. Thats why I switched to Japanese audio with subtitles.

Really? When has any Mikami game had good acting?

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#43 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I noticed that the GameInformer review it's self felt extremely rushed and amatuerish. There are so many things in the game they neglected to mention, challenge modes, replay value, and upgrades being the biggest (the Planet Xbox 360 review by comparison was FAR more thorough). I realise this is a magazine and they have limited page space, but why not ditch the worthless crap about cheesy dialogue and storyto talk aboutmore important game elements? For christ sake we KNEW the game would have a cheesy story and dialogue when we saw the first few freaking trailers. I wouldn't doubt it if the reviewer rushed through on easy and slapped a score on it afterwards.

Master_ShakeXXX

If the demo is anything to go by then the story and acting is definitely worth highlighting. Its absolutely terrible and the main character is a complete moron. Thats why I switched to Japanese audio with subtitles.

Really? When has any Mikami game had good acting?

Resident Evil's characters, screenplay and voice acting is cheesy but its still light years ahead of what I've experienced. Many many light years.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

bbkkristian

Yes, but GI has some really poor reviews on some many good games...

WAIT A MINUTE!! :lol: They're really getting mad over a 7.75??? Wow... I didn't see SE go nuts when GS gave its game a 4.0. :lol: Very unprofessional

Yeah GI is really unprofessional.
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#45 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Wow, Developers getting butt hurt over a review?

nintendo-4life

Yes, but GI has some really poor reviews on some many good games...

WAIT A MINUTE!! :lol: They're really getting mad over a 7.75??? Wow... I didn't see SE go nuts when GS gave its game a 4.0. :lol: Very unprofessional

Yeah GI is really unprofessional.

It seems there are a lot of people that don't realise this somehow. I've always thought they hold very little credibility.

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Wait the review put it on easy to beat? wow fail review then. You have to beat it on deafult normal.

finalfantasy94
No you do not...
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#47 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] Yes, but GI has some really poor reviews on some many good games...

WAIT A MINUTE!! :lol: They're really getting mad over a 7.75??? Wow... I didn't see SE go nuts when GS gave its game a 4.0. :lol: Very unprofessional

Bigboi500

Yeah GI is really unprofessional.

It seems there are a lot of people that don't realise this somehow. I've always thought they hold very little credibility.

Well I don't think they're taken very seriously, but this is the first time I have heard of them passing off potentially false information in their reviews. That aint no small thing.

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#48 soulitane
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Wait the review put it on easy to beat? wow fail review then. You have to beat it on deafult normal.

No you do not...

If they are saying how long it is they could of at least put it on the middle difficulty.
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#49 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Wait the review put it on easy to beat? wow fail review then. You have to beat it on deafult normal.

soulitane

No you do not...

If they are saying how long it is they could of at least put it on the middle difficulty.

Yeah, in their review they complain about the difficulty, so it would make sense if they switched to easy. If you're to give an accurate game length estimation however you need to atleast beat it on normal. Apparently GI failed to do that.

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#50 Raymundo_Manuel
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I don't see how GI is wrong.


I've beaten plenty of games below the "estimated" amount of hours it was supposed to last. I'm not sure why Game Informer reviewers couldn't possibly be good at video games.