playstaion vita "your going to need wi fi"

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#1 dontshackzmii
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USJ5VLKAwsg at about 2:30

in this video he said you will need wi fi to play games online. So it seems playing anywhere is not going to work well with vita.

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#2 Jolt_counter119
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We already knew 3g wasnt going to be enough to play the games online anywhere. Its more for internet and all that jazz.

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#3 eboyishere
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hmm. I thought people already knew this, and realized 3g was more of an add on to it
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#4 mrmusicman247
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Isn't there a 3g version?
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#5 bobbetybob
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...he said "You're going to need Wifi to play your hardcore head to head matches" Basically, 3G is for social stuff only, which was pretty obvious, 3G is nowhere near fast enough for fluid online.
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#6 dontshackzmii
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whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

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#7 drakekratos
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Luckily, every major city in america and europe is littered with WIFI hotspots
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#8 MrSelf-Destruct
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whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

dontshackzmii
Um.. yeah, pretty much. Or if you want to surf the web or play with twitter and all that stuff. 3G doesn't really have the bandwidth necessary to support heavy gaming sessions.
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#9 Nintendo_Ownes7
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I have Wireless internet at my house so I'm good I use it for all my consoles and handhelds.

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#10 Kashiwaba
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Its obvious 3G is not good nough for online gaming.

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#11 GTSaiyanjin2
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3g is pretty fast for the web and downlaing a few games.... but for miliplayer you really do need wifi.

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#12 Jynxzor
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3G would never work for the types of games the Vita has, so I don't see the suprise here.
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#13 KevinButlerVP
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whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

dontshackzmii
lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't
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#14 yokofox33
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I'm glad I pre-ordered the wi-fi only version then. 3g seems to be an unneeded add-on then.

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#15 DJ_Headshot
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They should have went with 4 instead.
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#16 Nonstop-Madness
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you could use 3G for every single online thing except gaming like messaging, voice chat, surfing the web, PSN Downloads etc.
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#17 river_rat3117
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it would be cool if we could get some type of app store with it too. im getting the 3g version even if i dont use it. just for backup
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#18 dank124
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

KevinButlerVP
lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't

sony does what nintendon't?
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#19 scottahuch
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3G does have enough bandwidth to play games online, the ping/response time is just way too high and unreliable for games.

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#20 Blabadon
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Wow, I actually thought 3G meant stuff like CoD mp anywhere. There goes one of its (IMO) biggest advantages over 3DS.
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#21 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

KevinButlerVP
lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't

Not until they unveil their newest iteration, the 3GS, anyway.
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#22 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

KevinButlerVP
lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't

3DS is cheaper than a 3G Vita, so it's understandable.
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#23 dercoo
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Calling a future 4G model now.

You know its going to happen8)

Anyway, not really a biig deal considering most urban areas have wifi of some kind.

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#24 Gorcman
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yea. really no point in getting the 3G version.

Unless AT&T is generous enough to make their data plan cost $0/month :(

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#25 Phoenix534
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Obviously. 3G connections aren't reliable or fast enough to use as multiplayer connection. It's just for internet and maybe some apps if they do that(which I'd bet they would)

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#26 Jolt_counter119
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

PurpleMan5000

lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't

Not until they unveil their newest iteration, the 3GS, anyway.

lol

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#27 Ringx55
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Psh I'll see about this while I was my smartphone as a hotspot. I believe it'll work fine, even then a lot of places these days have wifi.
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#28 ThePlothole
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AT&T has a 2GB monthly cap anyway.
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#29 BadNewsBen
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This isnt a big deal. Almost everywhere I go, there is wi-fi.
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#30 sethman410
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wait, this doesn't make sense. why is the 3g version priced higher than wifi version? if 3g is slower...???
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#31 Not-A-Stalker
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I have a few questions, Why not put 4G in the Vita? Why 3G? How much faster is 4G than 3G? Fast enough for online gaming yet? If you buy a 3G Vita, you don't have to pay AT&T a monthly bill for their data, do you? Does AT&T's 2GB data cap apply to the Vita?
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#32 SPYDER0416
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Even though I like getting the best version of things if I can, I was going to stick with Wi Fi anyways. Paying for 3G service from AT&T is like buying a broken down car. It won't work.

Yes my metaphors are free to all.

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#33 aroxx_ab
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wait, this doesn't make sense. why is the 3g version priced higher than wifi version? if 3g is slower...???sethman410

The 3G version have BOTH 3G and Wi-fi, that is why

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#34 Ringx55
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[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]I have a few questions, Why not put 4G in the Vita? Why 3G? How much faster is 4G than 3G? Fast enough for online gaming yet? If you buy a 3G Vita, you don't have to pay AT&T a monthly bill for their data, do you? Does AT&T's 2GB data cap apply to the Vita?

4G is hardly avaliable everywhere in the States, also expensive. Uhhh, I'm not sureo ne this one, I think it's about twice as fast. They haven't announced the plans.. But it's assumed you will have to buy a plan, whether monthly or a prepaid yearly thing. And we really don't know the caps, but tbh it'd be hard to hit the 2GB as you should be play on the WiFi when you can.
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3G has never been enough to play games. It actually has the bandwidth, but the pings are quite bad.

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#36 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

SaltyMeatballs
lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't

3DS is cheaper than a 3G Vita, so it's understandable.

Ha, good point. $50 extra bucks AND god-knows-how-much for the monthly service from AT&T(lol)? That's one option I will gladly pass up.
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#37 Dr_Snood
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I'm surprised that people actually thought that 3G would be capable of playing online. It has too high of ping to actually work well for very demanding games.
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#38 WllDan7
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

KevinButlerVP
lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't

What is the point of having it if it is worthless? You can just use your phone. When I get a Vita I am definitely getting the wifi only one.
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#39 RavenLoud
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I can see them making a 4G model in a few years anyway.

Does the response time on 4G solve the problem?

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#40 jhcho2
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I have a few questions, Why not put 4G in the Vita? Why 3G? How much faster is 4G than 3G? Fast enough for online gaming yet? If you buy a 3G Vita, you don't have to pay AT&T a monthly bill for their data, do you? Does AT&T's 2GB data cap apply to the Vita?Not-A-Stalker

1. 4G isn't backward compatible with 3G, and since 4G isn't readily available anywhere, you're practically screwed even if you had a 4G version.

2. In my opinion, almost any kind of far distance wireless connection is impractical for gaming. 3G and 4G signals have high latency due the wave frequency. As a result, the connection will have a high ping despite a fast connection. Even if the 4G signal could transmit 5 Megabytes worth of data in one second, it is essentially transmitting (for example) 750 kilobytes every 150 miliseconds, which means that your ping will be upwards of 150ms. A wired connection which could transmit data packages every 10ms interval would be more condusive. I feel this is the one aspect of wireless technology which many people do not understand. Wifi technology is similar to that of a wireless router technology, and doesn't pose such a problem

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#41 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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I would of thought it was obvious that you need wifi to play online. Just like the PSP. :-\

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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

KevinButlerVP

lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't

But then what's the point of having 3G if you can't play Online Games with it?

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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

LegatoSkyheart

lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't

But then what's the point of having 3G if you can't play Online Games with it?

For tweeting, checking emails, updates for your games, post on facebook, purchasing things from PSN or music from that Sony music type store. Basically whatever you're data plan on a phone allows you to do.

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#44 Pug-Nasty
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Just based off my experiences with using the internet on my 3g phone, I would have guessed that was a given from the start. Hopefully, when they say "You're going to need WiFi," they mean they won't let people lag the games up over 3g connections.

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#45 Solid_Tango
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

KevinButlerVP
lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't

Exactly, but i do think 3g will be more than enough, also vita would be able to use the free wifi spots that at&t has around the country.
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Wow, I actually thought 3G meant stuff like CoD mp anywhere. There goes one of its (IMO) biggest advantages over 3DS. Blabadon
unfortunately 3G just isn't good enough for online gaming it never has been. you need ultra low ping time and minimal packetloss, 3G is however ideal for for downloads and surfng the net.
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#47 SRTtoZ
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If you're expecting to play hardcore on 3g you're crazy...3g is great for my iphone but its not nearly fast enough for low lag gaming.

Plus, 'you're going to need wifi' is a given lol...did anyone really think you could just walk around with it not connected to any network and play games online?

WTF?

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#48 CwlHeddwyn
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If you're expecting to play hardcore on 3g you're crazy...3g is great for my iphone but its not nearly fast enough for low lag gaming.

Plus, 'you're going to need wifi' is a given lol...did anyone really think you could just walk around with it not connected to any network and play games online?

WTF?

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#49 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats the point for 3g then? so i can say I got the high score on facebook on the train?

LegatoSkyheart

lol at least u have the option while the 3DS doesn't

But then what's the point of having 3G if you can't play Online Games with it?

You CAN play online games with it, its just not goin to be nowhere near the speed of Wifi. 3g is great if you are somewhere where they is no wifi connection availilbe (road trip? vacation etc), but its going to be a lot slower than Wifi. You will still be able to download off PSN, play online games, browse the internet etc, but if you expect to jump into CoD and own people left and right you're fooling youself...people are going to be on way faster connections and will have a great advantage. I am going for the Wifi model because 3g isnt worth the monthly payment plus I have Wifi at home, work etc.