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#1 eisenhiem
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A few months ago, the gaming community had its mind set that this generation is the end of 3rd party exclusives, and there will be a big push towards multiplatform. Over the past year, there were a lot of multiplatform games released from the older Oblivion, to the more contemporary Call of Duty, and to the more recent Bioshock.

There seems to be an agreement amongst gamers that the Xbox 360 always had the better version of the game because it's easier to program for, and of course sometimes that is true, but I also picked the above 3 examples to illustrate the point that sometimes the sheep mentality can be quite deceiving. ThePlaystation3 version is not "always" the worst one, and sometimes it may even be the prefer version due to the free cost of PSN or the addition of Trophy (if you prefer it over the Achievement system on your Xbox 360). Or even better graphics (Oblivion), or extra contents (Bioshock/Eternal Sonata). Of course, some of these games are late to the table and I will not argue with you that if you had both machines you would have probably already played Bioshock. But setting these matters aside there is something else worth discussing today.

There is another misconception that the X360 was getting all the 3rd party love, with the stolen Final Fantasy XIII, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, and Grand Theft Auto exclusivity. (Wow, I think I just listed some of the biggest titles that was on the PS2, now also on the X360). For hardcore, PS3 Fanboys, that was a bit disheartening at first, but we must realize that all these games that went multiplatform are still on thePlaystation3 and it may well be the better version (I am also aware of the fact that now the game is multiplatform it may not utilize 100% of the PS3's power, which is also quite disheartening). So how can anyone say the X360 has more games when all it has is multiplatform games that are also on thePlaystation3 aside form a few gems such as Gears of War and Fable? I don't want to go so far to say that the X360 is nothing but a generic, easily broken/RROD machine that plays mostly multiplatform games. No, that would be quite unfair; I think it has made its stride probably somewhere over the past 2 years making quite a dent in the seventh generation of gaming. But it looks like things are taking an un-suspected turn of event these past few weeks as big industrial leaders like EA and Ubisoft releases their fiscal earning report.

Let's take a look at these numbers and we should dispel some myths. Myth number one being that the Xbox 360 Version of the game sell more copies (Which is not true worldwide, only true in the USA most of the time). Myth number two being that Xbox 360 has a higher attach rate (it does right now, but that was with a year of head start. Don't forget that very important point).

http://www.diggingtheweb.com/wiki/PS32009ThirdPartySupport

It's not as if Sony third party support was bad to begin with but looking at the graphs posted in the link well I I agree with the author. People were counting Sony out before the game was over. Well it seems third party games do sell on PS3 and they actually are selling better then they are on the Xbox 360. That's why you can't just look at North American sells when concerning Xbox 360 and PS3.

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#2 CWEBB04z
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GTA, and Resident Evil were not PS3 exclusives...ever.
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#3 st1ka
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didn't sony just recently said "we can't rely on third party exclusives?"
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#4 ps3wizard45
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That was a good read .
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#5 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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Its not supprising that Konami and ubisoft have had more sold on the ps3.

Konami do metal gear solid

and ubisoft did haze

Why dont we project the sales figures for Square enix

2k and eipc games?

Because they would oviously fall in the 360's favour.

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#6 Floppy_Jim
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GTA, and Resident Evil were not PS3 exclusives...ever.CWEBB04z

I know, I don't know what gives people that idea.

Good read though.

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#7 ExtremeOne316
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US console sales numbers matter to me since I live here in the states . The PS3 's 3rd party support still sucks

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#8 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]GTA, and Resident Evil were not PS3 exclusives...ever.Floppy_Jim

I know, I don't know what gives people that idea.

Good read though.

I think , because GTA and resi in the early years were mainly on playstaion .

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#9 lantus
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didn't sony just recently said "we can't rely on third party exclusives?"st1ka

They're not talking about exclusives.

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#10 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]didn't sony just recently said "we can't rely on third party exclusives?"lantus

They're not talking about exclusives.

well.... now i just made a fool of myself

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#11 jeezers
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long and borring read lol, who prefers trophys over xbox's acheivements ?
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long and borring read lol, who prefers trophys over xbox's acheivements ?jeezers

lol how many games even have trophy support 4?

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[QUOTE="jeezers"]long and borring read lol, who prefers trophys over xbox's acheivements ?Fizzman

lol how many games even have trophy support 4?

ya for real

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360 is cheaper, therefore it should get credit for all multiplats. Like how GTA games last gen were on Xbox. Nobody gave a **** cos everyone played them cheaper and earlier on PS2. It's the same deal this gen, except now Xbox is the one getting the games cheaper and faster than Playstation.

The fact almost every multiplat is the same on both or better on Xbox doesn't hurt either. Nor does the better online and pad though these ones are opinion.

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#15 eisenhiem
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Its not supprising that Konami and ubisoft have had more sold on the ps3.

Konami do metal gear solid

and ubisoft did haze

Why dont we project the sales figures for Square enix

2k and eipc games?

Because they would oviously fall in the 360's favour.

scottiescott238

Ubisoft and EA are two of the biggest third party publishers and don't make exclusive games for PS3 or Xbox 360 so I think it makes much more sense to use them instead of SE, 2k, or Epic.

/your post

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#16 eisenhiem
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US console sales numbers matter to me since I live here in the states . The PS3 's 3rd party support still sucks

ExtremeOne316

How LOL? What major games are being released on Xbox 360 that are not being released on PS3?

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[QUOTE="jeezers"]long and borring read lol, who prefers trophys over xbox's acheivements ?Fizzman

lol how many games even have trophy support 4?

There's way more then that and starting next year it will be mandatory!

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Its not supprising that Konami and ubisoft have had more sold on the ps3.

Konami do metal gear solid

and ubisoft did haze

Why dont we project the sales figures for Square enix

2k and eipc games?

Because they would oviously fall in the 360's favour.

scottiescott238

How would SE be in MS's favor? Last time I check, Sony is still ahead of MS in Japan and Japanese audience is what SE mostly caters to.

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#19 eisenhiem
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360 is cheaper, therefore it should get credit for all multiplats. Like how GTA games last gen were on Xbox. Nobody gave a **** cos everyone played them cheaper and earlier on PS2. It's the same deal this gen, except now Xbox is the one getting the games cheaper and faster than Playstation.

The fact almost every multiplat is the same on both or better on Xbox doesn't hurt either. Nor does the better online and pad though these ones are opinion.

locopatho

I don't like people using the Xbox 360 is cheaper arguement when in reality it is not and will actually cost you more. Don't say you can get the full experience of games(multiplat) now without Live because it is a major selling point for M$ and people here are always boasting about how Xbox Live > PSN. Also more importantly you don't have to deal with RROD with PS3 consoles. I'll take a few extra dollars for some reliabilty. I guess you get what you pay for. :?

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Its true that the 360 ports sell better than PS3 games only in North America....but thats because the 360 has more market share over here. However, Grand Theft Auto was never an exclusive to Playstation. Not ever. Even the original game was also on PC.

Amd honestly who would take trophies over achivements? Come on...

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]

360 is cheaper, therefore it should get credit for all multiplats. Like how GTA games last gen were on Xbox. Nobody gave a **** cos everyone played them cheaper and earlier on PS2. It's the same deal this gen, except now Xbox is the one getting the games cheaper and faster than Playstation.

The fact almost every multiplat is the same on both or better on Xbox doesn't hurt either. Nor does the better online and pad though these ones are opinion.

eisenhiem

I don't like people using the Xbox 360 is cheaper arguement when in reality it is not and will actually cost you more. Don't say you can get the full experience of games(multiplat) now without Live because it is a major selling point for M$ and people here are always boasting about how Xbox Live > PSN. Also more importantly you don't have to deal with RROD with PS3 consoles. I'll take a few extra dollars for some reliabilty. I guess you get what you pay for. :?

Oh really, EVERYONE that owns a 360 has to deal with RROD? I know far more people outside this forum that have never encountered RROD. Why should any company concider PS3 when they sell more software on 360. BTW, oh boy next year all PS3 games will feature trophy support, good luck trying to catch up to something that every 260 game has already had since the beginning. Face it, you are getting an equal or superior gaming experience for less on 360, deal with it...

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]

360 is cheaper, therefore it should get credit for all multiplats. Like how GTA games last gen were on Xbox. Nobody gave a **** cos everyone played them cheaper and earlier on PS2. It's the same deal this gen, except now Xbox is the one getting the games cheaper and faster than Playstation.

The fact almost every multiplat is the same on both or better on Xbox doesn't hurt either. Nor does the better online and pad though these ones are opinion.

eisenhiem

I don't like people using the Xbox 360 is cheaper arguement when in reality it is not and will actually cost you more. Don't say you can get the full experience of games(multiplat) now without Live because it is a major selling point for M$ and people here are always boasting about how Xbox Live > PSN. Also more importantly you don't have to deal with RROD with PS3 consoles. I'll take a few extra dollars for some reliabilty. I guess you get what you pay for. :?

Ya I do pay for Live, but it's 50 a year over several years. Much easier than hundreds up front. Don't have to have it either. Optional services/accessories can't change the fact 360 is half the price of PS3.

For reliability, again I'll compare to PS2. PS2 was less reliable than Xbox, mine broke twice. Didn't matter, still was the cheapest and best.

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Its true that the 360 ports sell better than PS3 games only in North America....but thats because the 360 has more market share over here. However, Grand Theft Auto was never an exclusive to Playstation. Not ever. Even the original game was also on PC.

Amd honestly who would take trophies over achivements? Come on...

Simulator_Shock

What's wrong with tropihies? They have better meaning and feels like a greater accomplishment then some random numbers. With home and full 3D trophies it will make them even more meaningful. It kinda of reminds me of people playing MMOs where everyone strives to get the best gear. Once Home is released people will be going the extra mile to get the most exclusive 3D trophies!

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#24 Simulator_Shock
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[QUOTE="Simulator_Shock"]

Its true that the 360 ports sell better than PS3 games only in North America....but thats because the 360 has more market share over here. However, Grand Theft Auto was never an exclusive to Playstation. Not ever. Even the original game was also on PC.

Amd honestly who would take trophies over achivements? Come on...

eisenhiem

What's wrong with tropihies? They have better meaning and feels like a greater accomplishment then some random numbers. With home and full 3D trophies it will make them even more meaningful. It kinda of reminds me of people playing MMOs where everyone strives to get the best gear. Once Home is released people will be going the extra mile to get the most exclusive 3D trophies!

As far as I know only a handfull of PS3 games actually have trophies while every 360 game has had achivements since day one. I get the feeling you have never played a 360 game in which you unlocked an achivement since you referred to is as getting "random numbers". And is Home ever going to come out?? I mean really...Cows have been talking about that since the PS3's launch.

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[QUOTE="eisenhiem"][QUOTE="locopatho"]

360 is cheaper, therefore it should get credit for all multiplats. Like how GTA games last gen were on Xbox. Nobody gave a **** cos everyone played them cheaper and earlier on PS2. It's the same deal this gen, except now Xbox is the one getting the games cheaper and faster than Playstation.

The fact almost every multiplat is the same on both or better on Xbox doesn't hurt either. Nor does the better online and pad though these ones are opinion.

locopatho

gta came out simultaneously on both platforms this gen, last gen the ps2 had timed exclusivity...3rd party developers don't care about what exclusivity anymore...all they want is $$$...

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#26 eisenhiem
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[QUOTE="eisenhiem"][QUOTE="locopatho"]

360 is cheaper, therefore it should get credit for all multiplats. Like how GTA games last gen were on Xbox. Nobody gave a **** cos everyone played them cheaper and earlier on PS2. It's the same deal this gen, except now Xbox is the one getting the games cheaper and faster than Playstation.

The fact almost every multiplat is the same on both or better on Xbox doesn't hurt either. Nor does the better online and pad though these ones are opinion.

AlphaGamer469

I don't like people using the Xbox 360 is cheaper arguement when in reality it is not and will actually cost you more. Don't say you can get the full experience of games(multiplat) now without Live because it is a major selling point for M$ and people here are always boasting about how Xbox Live > PSN. Also more importantly you don't have to deal with RROD with PS3 consoles. I'll take a few extra dollars for some reliabilty. I guess you get what you pay for. :?

Oh really, EVERYONE that owns a 360 has to deal with RROD? I know far more people outside this forum that have never encountered RROD. 1. Why should any company concider PS3 when they sell more software on 360. BTW, oh boy next year all PS3 games will feature trophy support, good luck trying to catch up to something that every 260 game has already had since the beginning. Face it, you are getting an equal or superior gaming experience for less on 360, deal with it...

1. This article proves that that is a false misconception. LOL Superior gaming experience on Xbox. I think that would be the other way around as PS3 offer installs which shorten load times.

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[QUOTE="Simulator_Shock"]

Its true that the 360 ports sell better than PS3 games only in North America....but thats because the 360 has more market share over here. However, Grand Theft Auto was never an exclusive to Playstation. Not ever. Even the original game was also on PC.

Amd honestly who would take trophies over achivements? Come on...

eisenhiem

What's wrong with tropihies? They have better meaning and feels like a greater accomplishment then some random numbers. With home and full 3D trophies it will make them even more meaningful. It kinda of reminds me of people playing MMOs where everyone strives to get the best gear. Once Home is released people will be going the extra mile to get the most exclusive 3D trophies!

So basically you're entire aim with this thread is that IYO the PS3 does things better than the 360, and no matter what people say to dispute it doesn't matter if it goes against your argument.
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The system with the smallest install base, worst sales in america/Japan, worst software sales and highest development costs is going to get more third party support

somehow I doubt that

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#29 eisenhiem
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[QUOTE="eisenhiem"][QUOTE="locopatho"]

360 is cheaper, therefore it should get credit for all multiplats. Like how GTA games last gen were on Xbox. Nobody gave a **** cos everyone played them cheaper and earlier on PS2. It's the same deal this gen, except now Xbox is the one getting the games cheaper and faster than Playstation.

The fact almost every multiplat is the same on both or better on Xbox doesn't hurt either. Nor does the better online and pad though these ones are opinion.

locopatho

I don't like people using the Xbox 360 is cheaper arguement when in reality it is not and will actually cost you more. Don't say you can get the full experience of games(multiplat) now without Live because it is a major selling point for M$ and people here are always boasting about how Xbox Live > PSN. Also more importantly you don't have to deal with RROD with PS3 consoles. I'll take a few extra dollars for some reliabilty. I guess you get what you pay for. :?

Ya I do pay for Live, but it's 50 a year over several years. Much easier than hundreds up front. Don't have to have it either. Optional services/accessories can't change the fact 360 is half the price of PS3.

For reliability, again I'll compare to PS2. PS2 was less reliable than Xbox, mine broke twice. Didn't matter, still was the cheapest and best.

Hundreds? LOL PS3 is only $100 more then the most sought after Xbox console(the Premium) and after you factor in Live only $50 more. Did I mention it's reliable? And you say you go for PS2 for reliabillty? I didn't know you could play MGS 4, GT 5, Fallout 3, Soul Calibur 4, Bioshock, Far Cry 2, etc on the PS2.

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#30 Simulator_Shock
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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"][QUOTE="eisenhiem"][QUOTE="locopatho"]

360 is cheaper, therefore it should get credit for all multiplats. Like how GTA games last gen were on Xbox. Nobody gave a **** cos everyone played them cheaper and earlier on PS2. It's the same deal this gen, except now Xbox is the one getting the games cheaper and faster than Playstation.

The fact almost every multiplat is the same on both or better on Xbox doesn't hurt either. Nor does the better online and pad though these ones are opinion.

eisenhiem

I don't like people using the Xbox 360 is cheaper arguement when in reality it is not and will actually cost you more. Don't say you can get the full experience of games(multiplat) now without Live because it is a major selling point for M$ and people here are always boasting about how Xbox Live > PSN. Also more importantly you don't have to deal with RROD with PS3 consoles. I'll take a few extra dollars for some reliabilty. I guess you get what you pay for. :?

Oh really, EVERYONE that owns a 360 has to deal with RROD? I know far more people outside this forum that have never encountered RROD. 1. Why should any company concider PS3 when they sell more software on 360. BTW, oh boy next year all PS3 games will feature trophy support, good luck trying to catch up to something that every 260 game has already had since the beginning. Face it, you are getting an equal or superior gaming experience for less on 360, deal with it...

1. This article proves that that is a false misconception. LOL Superior gaming experience on Xbox. I think that would be the other way around as PS3 offer installs which shorten load times.

Oh yes...PS3 games are so much better because you get to sit there and watch the game install for 10 mins on every level. *sigh* Your right, thats way better than putting an Xbox disc into the system and have to let load for a min or two.

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1. This article proves that that is a false misconception. LOL Superior gaming experience on Xbox. I think that would be the other way around as PS3 offer installs which shorten load times.

eisenhiem

Ya waiting somewhere between 5 to 20 minutes for the disc to eat a quarter of your harddrive (if you have the 20gig), that's awesome. :roll:

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#32 eisenhiem
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[QUOTE="eisenhiem"]

What's wrong with tropihies? They have better meaning and feels like a greater accomplishment then some random numbers. With home and full 3D trophies it will make them even more meaningful. It kinda of reminds me of people playing MMOs where everyone strives to get the best gear. Once Home is released people will be going the extra mile to get the most exclusive 3D trophies!

Simulator_Shock

As far as I know only a handfull of PS3 games actually have trophies while every 360 game has had achivements since day one. I get the feeling you have never played a 360 game in which you unlocked an achivement since you referred to is as getting "random numbers". And is Home ever going to come out?? I mean really...Cows have been talking about that since the PS3's launch.

LOL I've played 360 and you get a cool little 2D picture 2 LOL. Home comes next month and it was only announced in March of last year.

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#33 locopatho
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Hundreds? LOL PS3 is only $100 more then the most sought after Xbox console(the Premium) and after you factor in Live only $50 more. Did I mention it's reliable? And you say you go for PS2 for reliabillty? I didn't know you could play MGS 4, GT 5, Fallout 3, Soul Calibur 4, Bioshock, Far Cry 2, etc on the PS2.

eisenhiem

Yup PS3 has always been hundreds more than 360. 600 euros compared to 400 euros, then 500 euros compared to 300 euros, now it's 400 euros compared to 200 euros.

My point on the PS2 was LAST GEN, the best system(PS2) had crappy reliability. That didn't stop it from being the best, it was just an annoyance. Same this gen, RROD sucks ass but it's just a nuisance. I got a week ago, I'll have my 360 back in another week. No big deal.

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#34 eisenhiem
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The system with the smallest install base, worst sales in america/Japan, worst software sales and highest development costs is going to get more third party support

somehow I doubt that

MarloStanfield

Did you even read the article?

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#35 eisenhiem
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[QUOTE="eisenhiem"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

Oh really, EVERYONE that owns a 360 has to deal with RROD? I know far more people outside this forum that have never encountered RROD. 1. Why should any company concider PS3 when they sell more software on 360. BTW, oh boy next year all PS3 games will feature trophy support, good luck trying to catch up to something that every 260 game has already had since the beginning. Face it, you are getting an equal or superior gaming experience for less on 360, deal with it...

Simulator_Shock

1. This article proves that that is a false misconception. LOL Superior gaming experience on Xbox. I think that would be the other way around as PS3 offer installs which shorten load times.

Oh yes...PS3 games are so much better because you get to sit there and watch the game install for 10 mins on every level. *sigh* Your right, thats way better than putting an Xbox disc into the system and have to let load for a min or two.

Only game that does that is MGS 4... every other game with installs is just one install and your done. People have been doing it for years on PC with no complaints...

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#36 eisenhiem
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[QUOTE="eisenhiem"]

1. This article proves that that is a false misconception. LOL Superior gaming experience on Xbox. I think that would be the other way around as PS3 offer installs which shorten load times.

locopatho

Ya waiting somewhere between 5 to 20 minutes for the disc to eat a quarter of your harddrive (if you have the 20gig), that's awesome. :roll:

LOL I seriously cannot believe some of the responses you guys are giving me. The 20g PS3 was discontinued within the first six months: how many people actually own it? If I can wait months for a game to release what's another 20 minutes if it shortens or eliminates load times?

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#37 dragonpuppy
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[QUOTE="eisenhiem"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"][QUOTE="eisenhiem"][QUOTE="locopatho"]

360 is cheaper, therefore it should get credit for all multiplats. Like how GTA games last gen were on Xbox. Nobody gave a **** cos everyone played them cheaper and earlier on PS2. It's the same deal this gen, except now Xbox is the one getting the games cheaper and faster than Playstation.

The fact almost every multiplat is the same on both or better on Xbox doesn't hurt either. Nor does the better online and pad though these ones are opinion.

Simulator_Shock

I don't like people using the Xbox 360 is cheaper arguement when in reality it is not and will actually cost you more. Don't say you can get the full experience of games(multiplat) now without Live because it is a major selling point for M$ and people here are always boasting about how Xbox Live > PSN. Also more importantly you don't have to deal with RROD with PS3 consoles. I'll take a few extra dollars for some reliabilty. I guess you get what you pay for. :?

Oh really, EVERYONE that owns a 360 has to deal with RROD? I know far more people outside this forum that have never encountered RROD. 1. Why should any company concider PS3 when they sell more software on 360. BTW, oh boy next year all PS3 games will feature trophy support, good luck trying to catch up to something that every 260 game has already had since the beginning. Face it, you are getting an equal or superior gaming experience for less on 360, deal with it...

1. This article proves that that is a false misconception. LOL Superior gaming experience on Xbox. I think that would be the other way around as PS3 offer installs which shorten load times.

Oh yes...PS3 games are so much better because you get to sit there and watch the game install for 10 mins on every level. *sigh* Your right, thats way better than putting an Xbox disc into the system and have to let load for a min or two.

I take it that YOU have never touch a PS3 game if you claim that they take 10 mins each level.

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#38 dragonpuppy
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[QUOTE="eisenhiem"]

1. This article proves that that is a false misconception. LOL Superior gaming experience on Xbox. I think that would be the other way around as PS3 offer installs which shorten load times.

locopatho

Ya waiting somewhere between 5 to 20 minutes for the disc to eat a quarter of your harddrive (if you have the 20gig), that's awesome. :roll:

Here's the thing: The harddrive is upgradable with any laptop harddrive. :)

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#39 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="eisenhiem"]

1. This article proves that that is a false misconception. LOL Superior gaming experience on Xbox. I think that would be the other way around as PS3 offer installs which shorten load times.

eisenhiem

Ya waiting somewhere between 5 to 20 minutes for the disc to eat a quarter of your harddrive (if you have the 20gig), that's awesome. :roll:

LOL I seriously cannot believe some of the responses you guys are giving me. The 20g PS3 was discontinued within the first six months: how many people actually own it? If I can wait months for a game to release what's another 20 minutes if it shortens or eliminates load times?

Ok the 40 gig. That's 8 installs for you. Leaving zero room for demos, saves, movies, music, photos etc. And the time spent installing is always greater then the time it would have taken to switch a disc.

Here's the thing: The harddrive is upgradable with any laptop harddrive. :)

dragonpuppy

True. But he can't complain about Live fees, then turn around and say "Storage is no prob, just buy a laptop hardrive!"

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Uh...where's the list of PS3 games for 2009?! I'm not bashing you with the comment. I'm a Sony fan myself. W/o a list, I can't be excited about PS3 myself so I won't be interested enough to buy one. So I'll have to stick with 360 for now. At least show me a least of third party companies that will support Sony in '09.
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#41 Steppy_76
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A few months ago, the gaming community had its mind set that this generation is the end of 3rd party exclusives, and there will be a big push towards multiplatform. Over the past year, there were a lot of multiplatform games released from the older Oblivion, to the more contemporary Call of Duty, and to the more recent Bioshock.

There seems to be an agreement amongst gamers that the Xbox 360 always had the better version of the game because it's easier to program for No, there can be a variety of reasons the 360 gets the better version. Being easier to program for is just one of many. , and of course sometimes that is true, but I also picked the above 3 examples to illustrate the point that sometimes the sheep mentality can be quite deceiving. ThePlaystation3 version is not "always" the worst one, and sometimes it may even be the prefer version due to the free cost of PSN or the addition of TrophySince every 360 game supports achievements, you can't use trophies as a reason to buy the PS3 version as the 360 version will ALWAYS have achievements, rendering it a moot point at best(if the PS3 version has trophies), to favoring the 360(if the PS3 version doesn't) (if you prefer it over the Achievement system on your Xbox 360). Or even better graphics (Oblivion), or extra contents (Bioshock/Eternal Sonata). When they come out a year or more after the 360 version. Of course, some of these games are late to the tableActually, ALL of the games you listed are late to the table. I can't think of a single multiplat that came out day and date with the 360 version that was better on the PS3, yet there are many on the 360 that came out the same day and are better. and I will not argue with you that if you had both machines you would have probably already played Bioshock. But setting these matters aside there is something else worth discussing today.

There is another misconception that the X360 was getting all the 3rd party love, with the stolen Final Fantasy XIII, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, and Grand Theft Auto exclusivity. (Wow, I think I just listed some of the biggest titles that was on the PS2, now also on the X360). For hardcore, PS3 Fanboys, that was a bit disheartening at first, but we must realize that all these games that went multiplatform are still on thePlaystation3 and it may well be the better version(doubtful, unless the PS3 version is coming later, but then you're trading time for content. (I am also aware of the fact that now the game is multiplatform it may not utilize 100% of the PS3's power, which is also quite disheartening)Welcome to Xbox users last gen...except Xbox had a larger power advantage over the PS2 than the PS3 MAY have over the 360.. So how can anyone say the X360 has more games when all it has is multiplatform games that are also on thePlaystation3 aside form a few gems such as Gears of War and Fable? I think somebody needs to break out the tally sheet of A, AA, and AAA totals from the consoles, as the 360 has far more than the PS3. The PS3 gets its exclusives and multiplats, the 360 get is exclusives, multiplats it shares with the PS3, and multiplats it shares with the PC but NOT the PS3. There is no disputing this, I don't see how you can't understand how people say the 360 has more games when it is very easily verified. I don't want to go so far to say that the X360 is nothing but a generic, easily broken/RROD machine that plays mostly multiplatform games. Yes you do, and in a veiled way you just did. No, that would be quite unfair; I think it has made its stride probably somewhere over the past 2 years making quite a dent in the seventh generation of gaming. But it looks like things are taking an un-suspected turn of event these past few weeks as big industrial leaders like EA and Ubisoft releases their fiscal earning report. So, the PS3 being on top for one whole stinking quarter(and still being down for the year as a whole) means things are taking a "turn" yet the 3 quarters the 360 beat the PS3 is irrelevant?

Let's take a look at these numbers and we should dispel some myths. Myth number one being that the Xbox 360 Version of the game sell more copies (Which is not true worldwide, only true in the USA most of the time Ok, let's see some links to back that up. ). Myth number two being that Xbox 360 has a higher attach rate (it does right now, but that was with a year of head start. Don't forget that very important point). Regardless, month in and month out sees the 360 with more titles in the sales charts that the PS3. It doesn't matter that they had a year headstart, all that does is illustrate that it was indeed a smart thing to get the 360 out a year ahead of time.

http://www.diggingtheweb.com/wiki/PS32009ThirdPartySupport

It's not as if Sony third party support was bad to begin with but looking at the graphs posted in the link well I I agree with the author. Big shock, you haven't presented yourself as a giant cow up until this point...oh wait. People were counting Sony out before the game was over. Well it seems third party games do sell on PS3 and they actually are selling better then they are on the Xbox 360. Games are pretty close to their userbase disparity...unlike the PS2 which held a 5 to 1 console advantage yet most multiplats would only sell at little more than 2:1 on the PS2. That's why you can't just look at North American sells when concerning Xbox 360 and PS3 You also can't focus on everything else BESIDES the NA numbers like you seem to want to do.

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I wish you would have just said "moooooooooooo" at the begining and saved us some time.
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#42 eisenhiem
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Uh...where's the list of PS3 games for 2009?! I'm not bashing you with the comment. I'm a Sony fan myself. W/o a list, I can't be excited about PS3 myself so I won't be interested enough to buy one. So I'll have to stick with 360 for now. At least show me a least of third party companies that will support Sony in '09.gunswordfist

I will do that later but exspect it it will be epic. LOL. PS3 will own 2009 in every way shape and form.

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#43 dark-warmachine
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The system with the smallest install base, worst sales in america/Japan, worst software sales and highest development costs is going to get more third party support

somehow I doubt that

MarloStanfield

If they were talking about exclusivity I would agree with you but they're not.

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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"]Uh...where's the list of PS3 games for 2009?! I'm not bashing you with the comment. I'm a Sony fan myself. W/o a list, I can't be excited about PS3 myself so I won't be interested enough to buy one. So I'll have to stick with 360 for now. At least show me a least of third party companies that will support Sony in '09.eisenhiem

I will do that later but exspect it it will be epic. LOL. PS3 will own 2009 in every way shape and form.



every single year i hear that sentence, il go digging for some quotes
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[QUOTE="eisenhiem"]

[QUOTE="gunswordfist"]Uh...where's the list of PS3 games for 2009?! I'm not bashing you with the comment. I'm a Sony fan myself. W/o a list, I can't be excited about PS3 myself so I won't be interested enough to buy one. So I'll have to stick with 360 for now. At least show me a least of third party companies that will support Sony in '09.pwn-flakes

I will do that later but exspect it it will be epic. LOL. PS3 will own 2009 in every way shape and form.



every single year i hear that sentence, il go digging for some quotes

lol That would be amusing.
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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"]Uh...where's the list of PS3 games for 2009?! I'm not bashing you with the comment. I'm a Sony fan myself. W/o a list, I can't be excited about PS3 myself so I won't be interested enough to buy one. So I'll have to stick with 360 for now. At least show me a least of third party companies that will support Sony in '09.eisenhiem

I will do that later but exspect it it will be epic. LOL. PS3 will own 2009 in every way shape and form.

I was counting down until he was gonna go into the "next year" phase. Sigh cows...

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[QUOTE="Simulator_Shock"][QUOTE="eisenhiem"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

Oh really, EVERYONE that owns a 360 has to deal with RROD? I know far more people outside this forum that have never encountered RROD. 1. Why should any company concider PS3 when they sell more software on 360. BTW, oh boy next year all PS3 games will feature trophy support, good luck trying to catch up to something that every 260 game has already had since the beginning. Face it, you are getting an equal or superior gaming experience for less on 360, deal with it...

eisenhiem

1. This article proves that that is a false misconception. LOL Superior gaming experience on Xbox. I think that would be the other way around as PS3 offer installs which shorten load times.

Oh yes...PS3 games are so much better because you get to sit there and watch the game install for 10 mins on every level. *sigh* Your right, thats way better than putting an Xbox disc into the system and have to let load for a min or two.

Only game that does that is MGS 4... every other game with installs is just one install and your done. People have been doing it for years on PC with no complaints...

Yeah and then you have to re-install all the levels again on your next playthrough. PC games never do that.

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#48 Steppy_76
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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"]Uh...where's the list of PS3 games for 2009?! I'm not bashing you with the comment. I'm a Sony fan myself. W/o a list, I can't be excited about PS3 myself so I won't be interested enough to buy one. So I'll have to stick with 360 for now. At least show me a least of third party companies that will support Sony in '09.eisenhiem

I will do that later but exspect it it will be epic. LOL. PS3 will own 2009 in every way shape and form.

Wow, not even gonna bother with the pretext of nonbias eh? In 2006 Cows said the same thing. 2006 comes, and MS announced the majority of titles for 2006 IN 2006, 360 takes 2006. Cows said 2007 is the year, MS has nothing other than H3 coming. MS annouces the majority of their 2007 titles IN 2007, 360 takes 2007. Cows say 2008 in on lock, MS has nothing for 2008. 2008 comes, MS announces 2008 titles, and 2008 once isn't the PS3's year(though FINALLY it at least comes close).
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[QUOTE="eisenhiem"]

[QUOTE="gunswordfist"]Uh...where's the list of PS3 games for 2009?! I'm not bashing you with the comment. I'm a Sony fan myself. W/o a list, I can't be excited about PS3 myself so I won't be interested enough to buy one. So I'll have to stick with 360 for now. At least show me a least of third party companies that will support Sony in '09.Steppy_76

I will do that later but exspect it it will be epic. LOL. PS3 will own 2009 in every way shape and form.

Wow, not even gonna bother with the pretext of nonbias eh? In 2006 Cows said the same thing. 2006 comes, and MS announced the majority of titles for 2006 IN 2006, 360 takes 2006. Cows said 2007 is the year, MS has nothing other than H3 coming. MS annouces the majority of their 2007 titles IN 2007, 360 takes 2007. Cows say 2008 in on lock, MS has nothing for 2008. 2008 comes, MS announces 2008 titles, and 2008 once isn't the PS3's year(though FINALLY it at least comes close).

Yeah KIND of close. Sony was stupid enough to say that they have 2008 on lock so they'll just have Killzone 2 in 2009...
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[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]GTA, and Resident Evil were not PS3 exclusives...ever.Floppy_Jim

I know, I don't know what gives people that idea.

Good read though.

Nobody acts like they were 100% exclusives, the reason GTA and RE are associated with Sony is because they became popular on Sony platforms, sold the most on Sony platforms, and are generally regarded as Sony franchises because of that. Obviously they're not anymore, but in the past they were so people associate them with that.