Playstation 3 vs. Xbox 360 - GPU and Graphics output.

Now, I honestly have no idea what the differences between the two GPUs are. All I know is based off the knowledgey goodness that is Wikipedia. Alot of the time people throw around the fact that the Xbox 360 has a superior GPU, but I'm wondering why exactly?

From what I've read RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' actually seems better since it has a speed of 550 Mhz while the Xenos in the 360 has a speed of 500Mhz. What exactly makes the Xbox 360 have a 'better' graphics output according to the fanboys of the console? I know there are many factors including RAM with the 360 having a unified RAM structure compared to the seperate RAM structure of the PS3 but I'm still not sure why the 360 fans throw out the 360 as having a better GPU, if it's the ram then surely doesn't the 360 have better RAM and not a better GPU as to me it seems that the GPU of the PS3 appears to be faster :|

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSX_%27Reality_Synthesizer%27

I dont really care which is more powerufl.. all i know is that ps3 is showing the better graphics as of now IMO with GT5:p and unchartedArsenal325

QFT. The 360 is built like a PC where some parts are really important. The PS3 is designed where all parts work well with eachother. Along with the GPU doing graphics, the Cell also preforms Graphic calculations. It's all about how a game is programmed. This is why exclusives always look better than multiplats. They're made to take advantage of the hardware.

I dont really care which is more powerufl.. all i know is that ps3 is showing the better graphics as of now IMO with GT5:p and unchartedArsenal325

Gears of War is roughly the same as Uncharted.

[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]I dont really care which is more powerufl.. all i know is that ps3 is showing the better graphics as of now IMO with GT5:p and unchartedPietrooper

Gears of War is roughly the same as Uncharted.

yeah but imo uncharted is better looking

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[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]I dont really care which is more powerufl.. all i know is that ps3 is showing the better graphics as of now IMO with GT5:p and unchartedArsenal325

Gears of War is roughly the same as Uncharted.

yeah but imo uncharted is better looking

I think Gears of War is technically better, but the grey/brown/black colour scheme spoils it. I prefer Uncharted because it's brighter and I think the animation and lighting is more fluid. Gears of War has superior textures in my opinion :)

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[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]I dont really care which is more powerufl.. all i know is that ps3 is showing the better graphics as of now IMO with GT5:p and unchartedArsenal325

Gears of War is roughly the same as Uncharted.

yeah but imo uncharted is better looking

Imo uncharted has smaller areas and no multiplayer and isnt as impressive as I think people think it is, imho.

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[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]I dont really care which is more powerufl.. all i know is that ps3 is showing the better graphics as of now IMO with GT5:p and unchartedMrGrimFandango

Gears of War is roughly the same as Uncharted.

yeah but imo uncharted is better looking

Imo uncharted has smaller areas and no multiplayer and isnt as impressive as I think people think it is, imho.

Gears of Wars has small areas, it's not exactly known for it's large scale battles :|

[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]I dont really care which is more powerufl.. all i know is that ps3 is showing the better graphics as of now IMO with GT5:p and unchartedPietrooper

Gears of War is roughly the same as Uncharted.

I have played both, and uncharted definitly looks better. Especially the final boss level.

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[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]I dont really care which is more powerufl.. all i know is that ps3 is showing the better graphics as of now IMO with GT5:p and unchartedPietrooper

Gears of War is roughly the same as Uncharted.

yeah but imo uncharted is better looking

I think Gears of War is technically better, but the grey/brown/black colour scheme spoils it. I prefer Uncharted because it's brighter and I think the animation and lighting is more fluid. Gears of War has superior textures in my opinion :)

uncharted has way better poly count, animations, lighting though.

and some of the textures and shaders are amazing in uncharted too.

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[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]I dont really care which is more powerufl.. all i know is that ps3 is showing the better graphics as of now IMO with GT5:p and unchartedPietrooper

Gears of War is roughly the same as Uncharted.

yeah but imo uncharted is better looking

Imo uncharted has smaller areas and no multiplayer and isnt as impressive as I think people think it is, imho.

Gears of Wars has small areas, it's not exactly known for it's large scale battles :|

The last level on the train was a very large area, you had to fight a lot of flying enemies around the train and they spanned the length of the train so it was a pretty massive field of play.

The last level on the train was a very large area, you had to fight a lot of flying enemies around the train and they spanned the length of the train so it was a pretty massive field of play.

Sparky04

:lol:

you were joking right?

.Heydanbud92

Obsolute sexyness

Devs have had more time with the 360. Personally I think the PS3 will be teh sex before the end of this generation.elektrixxx

haha yeah i cant wait to see what some talented devs can pull off for ps3..

ps3 has xdr ram at 3.2ghz 360 ram is at 700mhzdeadmeat59

The PS3 has 256 MB of XDR RAM @ 3.2 GHZ, and 256 MB of GDDR3 RAM @ 700 MHZ.

The Xbox 360 has 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM @ 1.4 GHZ.

Self owned. Try to research before responding.

[QUOTE="elektrixxx"]Devs have had more time with the 360. Personally I think the PS3 will be teh sex before the end of this generation.Arsenal325

haha yeah i cant wait to see what some talented devs can pull off for ps3..

First is was the "Hiddin Powah" in the PS2, now the PS3, eh?

Look at what that did for the PS2. I remember when first party devs were saying they were only using only 30% of the PS2. Where did the other 70% go? What makes you think they're not blowing smoke up your backside again?

One of the greatest game devs, Valve, said it best when they said the PS3 is a waste of time.

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]ps3 has xdr ram at 3.2ghz 360 ram is at 700mhzMortalDecay

The PS3 has 256 MB of XDR RAM @ 3.2 GHZ, and 256 MB of GDDR3 RAM @ 700 MHZ.

The Xbox 360 has 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM @ 1.4 GHZ.

Self owned. Try to research before responding.

Why don't you?

The Xbox 360's GDDR3 RAM is clocked at 700MHz. Its effective transmission rate is 1.4GHz, but so is the PS3's 256MB of GDDR3 RAM. That's why it's called GDDR3. It's double data rate RAM.

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The last level on the train was a very large area, you had to fight a lot of flying enemies around the train and they spanned the length of the train so it was a pretty massive field of play.

Heydanbud92

:lol:

you were joking right?

He has to be. No one can be that much of a fanboy.

[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"].....Pandemonium876

Obsolute sexyness

Gears of War has far better character models, and textures.

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[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"].....MortalDecay

Obsolute sexyness

Gears of War has far better character models, and textures.

Too bad you can't change anything in the goddamn game. Gears of War has no physics, no interactivity whatsoever. Just ragdoll.

Uhh yeah.

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[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]ps3 has xdr ram at 3.2ghz 360 ram is at 700mhzmjarantilla

The PS3 has 256 MB of XDR RAM @ 3.2 GHZ, and 256 MB of GDDR3 RAM @ 700 MHZ.

The Xbox 360 has 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM @ 1.4 GHZ.

Self owned. Try to research before responding.

Why don't you?

The Xbox 360's GDDR3 RAM is clocked at 700MHz. Its effective transmission rate is 1.4GHz, but so is the PS3's 256MB of GDDR3 RAM. That's why it's called GDDR3. It's double data rate RAM.

That is called ownage right there lol.

This graphics debate will never end. They both look awesome, thats all that should matter.

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[QUOTE="elektrixxx"]Devs have had more time with the 360. Personally I think the PS3 will be teh sex before the end of this generation.MortalDecay

haha yeah i cant wait to see what some talented devs can pull off for ps3..

First is was the "Hiddin Powah" in the PS2, now the PS3, eh?

Look at what that did for the PS2. I remember when first party devs were saying they were only using only 30% of the PS2. Where did the other 70% go? What makes you think they're not blowing smoke up your backside again?

One of the greatest game devs, Valve, said it best when they said the PS3 is a waste of time.

Take God of War 1 for example. The game showed devs out there that the PS2 still had "Hiddin Powah". When you think they squeezed the juice out of the PS2, along comes GoW2.

You know I have a PS3 and a Computer, comparing Graphics in consoles is kind of silly in my view I mean there is a difference PS3 has a slight edge due to its 500 dollar architect. The cell processor is very very powerful the PS3 is very complicated and has a lot of edges on the 360 but at the same time the only people who know how to use them are Sony developers themselves on all multi-plats 360 looks better because how simple and easy it is to program. PS3 does have more power but at the same time what developers are going to want to take twice as long for a PS3 game that's why they usually port the 360 version. The PS3 is sophisticated and rather harsh to develop for, better graphical capabilities from a hardware comparison stand point, yes Will all developers end up using its edges no...

The architecture of the card. The RSX has 24 pixel pipelines and 8 vertex while the xenos has 48 unified pipelines. If you know even the most basic information about graphics cards the number of pipelines is one of the major factors that separates budget cards like the 8500 from medium range cards like the 8600 or the 8600 from the 8800 for that matter. The advantage is not so clear cut because of the unified nature of the pipelines in the xenos but anandtech and other hardware sites have suggested the xenos does have the advantage.Sir_Graham

The RSX has something like 24 pixel pipelines and 16 vertex shaders along with a 256 bit bus. There is NO way to spin it to say that the RSX is more powerful than the Xenon, cause its not. Its not blown away, its still the same generation video card after all, but it is less flexible and powerful. The PS3 has to use Cell to streamline the data being fed to the RSX in order to make stuff like Uncharted and GT5:P possible.

Good dev's make good games, regardless of the console they make it on, simple as that.

In regards to raw power, the developers for Burnout said the PS3 GPU is more powerful than the 360, however the 360 is MUCH easier to make games for.

So according to those developers, it seems that some games look better simply because developers have not really learned how to use the hardware Sony threw in the PS3.

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]ps3 has xdr ram at 3.2ghz 360 ram is at 700mhzMortalDecay

The PS3 has 256 MB of XDR RAM @ 3.2 GHZ, and 256 MB of GDDR3 RAM @ 700 MHZ.

The Xbox 360 has 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM @ 1.4 GHZ.

Self owned. Try to research before responding.

GDDR3 runs at twice the rated speed. (Double Data Rate), so in effect, the PS3's VRAM also runs at 1.4Ghz.