Playstation 3 vs Xbox 360 (!!updated!!)

LOOK AND FEEL
Our initial response to the Playstation 3 is that it has a more elegant look and feel than the Xbox 360. It is glossy black with a slicker user interface than that of the Xbox 360. The startup sound reminds you of when the lights go out at the opera house. Very ****.

Advantage: PS3

PROCESSING POWER
The CPU of the Playstation 3 is a 3.2GHz Cell Broadband Engine with up to 8 "synergistic" processing units. The Xbox 360 sports a custom 3.2GHz G5 with 3 dual-threaded cores. The Playstation 3 has 512K of L2 cache while the Xbox 360 has 1MB of L2 cache. The PS3 has 256MB of main memory plus 256MB of video memory while the Xbox 360 shares 512MB between the CPU and GPU. Plus it has 10MB of very fast eDRAM dedicated to the GPU. The memory bandwidth of the PS3 is 25.6GB/s versus 22.4GB/s for the Xbox 360.

The Playstation 3 uses an nVidia RSX "Reality Sythe****" graphics processor (GPU) with 24 pixel pipelines and 12 vertex pipelines while the Xbox 360 uses a custom ATI processor with 48 unified pixel/vertex pipelines.

Combining the CPU and GPU power, the Playstation 3 is rated at 51 billion dot-product-operations-per-second (dpo/s). The Xbox 360 is rated at 34 billion dpo/s.

Advantage: PS3

STORAGE OPTIONS
The PS3 model came with a 80GB/60GB/40GB/20GB hard drive. The Xbox 360 has 20GB/120 GB hard drive. After doing some research, the PS3 hard drive is a laptop hard drive, you can upgrade your PS3 hard drive up to 300GB of space.

Advantage: PS3

The PS3 optical drive is a slot loading Blu-ray BD-ROM drive. It can launch games or play DVD movie discs or Blu-ray movie discs. The Xbox 360 has a tray load Dual-Layer DVD-ROM drive. To play HD movies on the Xbox 360, you must purchase a $199 optional external tray load HD-DVD player that can only be used for DVD or HD-DVD movie playback. The internal tray load optical drive is still required for launching games.

Advantage: PS3

The PS3 has support for various memory cards (SD, CF, and Memory Stick). The Xbox 360 sports two memory card slots that accept proprietary memory units (up to 512MB each). Both consoles have multiple USB 2.0 ports. I understand you can use them to connect things like the iPod, Flash Drives, USB hard drives, and even Sony's PSP.

Advantage: PS3

GRAPHICS
http://media.techeblog.com/images/graphics_compare.jpg (Assasins creed 250% zoom)

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/12/xbox_360_vs_ps3.jpg (Need For Speed Carbon)

http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/userimages/2008/05/iron-man-sony-ps3-vs-xbox-360.jpg (Iron Man)

http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2007/november/ps3_xbox_nfsprostreet.jpg (Need For Speed Prostreet)

http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/fight_night_3_detail.jpg (Fight Night 3)

Different people have different views. So you pick.

NOISE LEVELS
The Playstation 3's fans are quieter than the Xbox 360. When first turned on, the PS3 is under 40db while the Xbox hovers at 47db. When a game disc is loaded and the game is running, the PS3 rises to 44db while the Xbox rises to 55db. Of course, when we turn on the sound courtesy of our Bose 3-2-1 system, the decibel level rises over 73, drowning out any noise from the game console fans.

However, if you are trying to watch a quiet scene in a movie, the Xbox fan noise interfered with the pleasure of the moment. That wasn't the case with the PS3.

Advantage: PS3

VIDEO SUPPORT
The PS3 has an HDMI port and supports 1080p. That comes in handy if you have a Full 1080p TV. In the case of the Xbox 360 the best quality video output is component and maxes at 1080i. The Xbox 360 Elite, however, does include an HDMI port and supports 1080p.

Advantage: neither

AUDIO SUPPORT
Toslink optical audio ports are available on both consoles. The PS3's audio circuitry can decode up to 7.1 channels of audio in the Dolby Digital, DTS, SACD and Dolby TrueHD formats. The Xbox 360 can decode up to 5.1 channels of audio in Dolby Digtal and DTS. It down-converts Dolby TrueHD.

Advantage: PS3

DISC
The PS3 use the new Blu-ray BD-ROM disc while the Xbox 360 use the HD-DVD ROM. Blu-ray BD-ROM can store up to 25 GB the dual layer can store up to 50 GB and the highest test capicity of the disc is 100 GB to 200 GB. HD-DVD ROM can store up to 15 GB while the dual layer can store up to 30 GB. While the highest capicity is 45 GB to 60 GB.

While the HD-DVD maximum data transfer is 36.55 Mbits/s the Blu-ray is 53.95 Mbits/s.

Advantage: PS3 (Blu-ray)

GAMEPADS
The gamepads for the Playstation 3 are smaller and lighter than the Xbox 360's. The PS2 pads are Bluetooth wireless while the Xbox pads are 2.4GHz wireless.

The PS3 pads have non-removable batteries that recharge when connected to the USB port (or the optional charger). The Xbox 360 gamepads use two removable AA batteries. We use Ni-MH batteries which we recharge using a third party 15 minute charger. I understand you can get special battery packs and chargers. I have to agree with tktomo01 Xbox 360 gamepads being more comfortable and after some research the Xbox 360 gamepads is more sensitive as well.

Advantage: Changing from PS3 to Xbox 360 (sorry)

GAME TITLES
If we look at the top ten all time games for the Xbox 360(Gamespot), all ten of it is scored 9.0 and above. But the PS3(Gamespot) top ten is scored 8.5 and above. Clearly Xbox 360 has better games. The Xbox 360 also have a lot more games than the PS3.

Advantage: Xbox 360

ONLINE
This is easy to conclude that Xbox 360 win in every section in online play. It has a better online experience than the PS3. I'm not saying that the online play in PS3 is bad, but Xbox 360 is better. Even though you have to pay for the 360, you get what you pay for.

Advantage: Xbox 360

BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
The Xbox 360 will handle some Xbox titles while the PS3(80 GB/60 GB) can play all of the PS2 titles without any problems. That can be useful when you want to play a racing game like Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) until the HD version is released for the PS3. But if you go with the 20 GB PS3 or 40 GB PS3 it will not have backwards compatibility. On the other hand all of the Xbox 360 versions will have backwards compatibility. But the fact that not all Xbox games can be played at Xbox 360 i'm giving this round to PS3.

Advantage: PS3

CONCLUSION
If its multimedia feature you want go with the PS3. If you want more cool game now go with the Xbox 360. But if you are patient enough, some cool exclusive titles are coming to the PS3.

Comment and give suggestions about what you think and i will update this thread so it will be as unbias as possible.

Advantage: Wall of textFragTycoon

Makes no sense. Learn to read.

CPU power cannot save you from a weak GPU. The 360's Xenos destroys the RSX. I used to think it was somewhat even in the past, but now I've seen that it's not even close.

im glad i have both systems so i get the best of both worlds =]bushidotu

Yep. In the end, that list is pointless, it comes down to games, and having both gets you all games you'd want.

Hmmm I smell bias.

You should factor in the bottlenecks unique to the PS3 though shouldn't you?

If you're goign to go so far as to include topics like NOISE LEVEL then why not include EASE OF DEVELOPMENT?

P.S. You'd be better off without the "for now."

i own both, so neither is better.

xbox 360 has some stuff over the ps3

ps3 has some stuff over the xbox 360

lets stop bashing either of them, and just accept that theyre good systems

Hmmm I smell bias.

hakanakumono

Had never seen this much bias in one thread. The 360 has better games, better online, better controller, better store, more variety, there are no mandatory installs and the leaps and bounds graphical difference is yet to be seen. And that "for now"...

Edit: you have some valid points though.

BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
The Xbox 360 will handle some Xbox titles while the PS3 can play all of the PS2 titles without any problems. That can be useful when you want to play a racing game like Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) until the HD version is released for the PS3.

Advantage: PS3

space-invaders

Not anymore

Had never seen this much bias in one thread. The 360 has better games, better online, better controller, better store, more variety, there are no mandatory installs and the leaps and bounds graphical difference is yet to be seen. And that "for now"...

Edit: you have some valid points though.

teufelherz

have never seen so much bias in a reply =p

CPU power cannot save you from a weak GPU. The 360's Xenos destroys the RSX. I used to think it was somewhat even in the past, but now I've seen that it's not even close.

gamecubepad

Seeing that the ps3 do have the greatly inferior GPU, this shouldn't be the case

[QUOTE="teufelherz"]

Had never seen this much bias in one thread. The 360 has better games, better online, better controller, better store, more variety, there are no mandatory installs and the leaps and bounds graphical difference is yet to be seen. And that "for now"...

Edit: you have some valid points though.

rsoxguy12

have never seen so much bias in a reply =p

Busted! :lol: I thought it would look that way, but actually I wasn't going mention the valid points at the start of the thread again ;).

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

CPU power cannot save you from a weak GPU. The 360's Xenos destroys the RSX. I used to think it was somewhat even in the past, but now I've seen that it's not even close.

ermacness

Seeing that the ps3 do have the greatly inferior GPU, this shouldn't be the case

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]Advantage: Wall of texthysam20241

Makes no sense. Learn to read.

Owned.

the proof is in the pudding. If the Xenos so much "destroys" the RSX and the ps3 have a "much" inferior GPU, then why does the ps3's exclusives games owns the 360 exclusive games in the visuals?

Seeing that the ps3 do have the greatly inferior GPU, this shouldn't be the case

ermacness

The proof is in the pudding, but I would argue that there are factors that can alter that "proof". Like development length and cost. Madden football running 30fps on PS3 instead of 60fps on 360 is good proof. How about GTA IV running at a higher res on 360 with 2xAA while the PS3 version is lower res with no AA? Soul Calibur IV also. Throw in the Graphics Comparison here on GS while wer're at it.

What are these exclusive games that own? MGS4 that runs sub-720p and took 5yrs and 45 million dollars to develop. The PS3 acheives it's decent looks by using the Cell along with the RSX. RSX vs Xenos alone, Xenos easily handles the RSX. MGS4 could be done on 360 at a higher res with better antialiasing imo.

Your argument can be used against itself. If MGS4 and Uncharted look so good, then why do Haze and Lair look like crap. Could this be a case of developer skill? Just maybe.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

the proof is in the pudding. If the Xenos so much "destroys" the RSX and the ps3 have a "much" inferior GPU, then why does the ps3's exclusives games owns the 360 exclusive games in the visuals?

Seeing that the ps3 do have the greatly inferior GPU, this shouldn't be the case

gamecubepad

The proof is in the pudding, but I would argue that there are factors that can alter that "proof". Like development length and cost. Madden football running 30fps on PS3 instead of 60fps on 360 is good proof. How about GTA IV running at a higher res on 360 with 2xAA while the PS3 version is lower res with no AA? Soul Calibur IV also. Throw in the Graphics Comparison here on GS while wer're at it.

What are these exclusive games that own? MGS4 that runs sub-720p and took 5yrs and 45 million dollars to develop. The PS3 acheives it's decent looks by using the Cell along with the RSX. RSX vs Xenos alone, Xenos easily handles the RSX. MGS4 could be done on 360 at a higher res with better antialiasing imo.

Your argument can be used against itself. If MGS4 and Uncharted look so good, then why do Haze and Lair look like crap. Could this be a case of developer skill? Just maybe.

In the end, i know the Xenos pws the RSX on paper, just like the cell pwns the ATi (or whatever it's called) on paper, but in proof, those two isn't nearly the case

[QUOTE="space-invaders"]

BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
The Xbox 360 will handle some Xbox titles while the PS3 can play all of the PS2 titles without any problems. That can be useful when you want to play a racing game like Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) until the HD version is released for the PS3.

Advantage: PS3

jharv

Not anymore

My PS3 has ZERO backwards compatibility:(

Very interesting

The PS3 is a fantastic system, kinda why im getting it this winter but personally, i like the Xbox360 better =P.

Most my friends have XBL, and it has the games i truley like. So when it comes to consoles, i vote X360.

In the end, i know the Xenos pws the RSX on paper, just like the cell pwns the ATi (or whatever it's called) on paper, but in proof, those two isn't nearly the case

ermacness

I can accept your point about Halo 3 and MGS4 running at lower res in order to utilized better post processing effects. My main point was that you can't simply add together the dot operations of the CPU and GPU and use that ratio to determine graphics performance. My original statement stands. Xenos destroys RSX. I never claimed that the 360 destroys the PS3 graphically.

That still leaves GTAIV and SCIV. They clearly show a technical advantage in power.

I love how the GPU and CPU are both under Processing power instead of seperate as to not have to admit that the Xenos smashes the RSX :roll:

Either way, Cows always makes threads comparing and saying because my PS3 has more hardware features ..then the 360 it nullifies the 360 having a better library.

Guess what cows me and every other non cow would rather have better games than hardware features so thread failed.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"][QUOTE="ermacness"]

the proof is in the pudding. If the Xenos so much "destroys" the RSX and the ps3 have a "much" inferior GPU, then why does the ps3's exclusives games owns the 360 exclusive games in the visuals?

Seeing that the ps3 do have the greatly inferior GPU, this shouldn't be the case

ermacness

The proof is in the pudding, but I would argue that there are factors that can alter that "proof". Like development length and cost. Madden football running 30fps on PS3 instead of 60fps on 360 is good proof. How about GTA IV running at a higher res on 360 with 2xAA while the PS3 version is lower res with no AA? Soul Calibur IV also. Throw in the Graphics Comparison here on GS while wer're at it.

What are these exclusive games that own? MGS4 that runs sub-720p and took 5yrs and 45 million dollars to develop. The PS3 acheives it's decent looks by using the Cell along with the RSX. RSX vs Xenos alone, Xenos easily handles the RSX. MGS4 could be done on 360 at a higher res with better antialiasing imo.

Your argument can be used against itself. If MGS4 and Uncharted look so good, then why do Haze and Lair look like crap. Could this be a case of developer skill? Just maybe.

In the end, i know the Xenos pws the RSX on paper, just like the cell pwns the ATi (or whatever it's called) on paper, but in proof, those two isn't nearly the case

Guess again, Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 says you are wrong.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

In the end, i know the Xenos pws the RSX on paper, just like the cell pwns the ATi (or whatever it's called) on paper, but in proof, those two isn't nearly the case

gamecubepad

I can accept your point about Halo 3 and MGS4 running at lower res in order to utilized better post processing effects. My main point was that you can't simply add together the dot operations of the CPU and GPU and use that ratio to determine graphics performance. My original statement stands. Xenos destroys RSX. I never claimed that the 360 destroys the PS3 graphically.

That still leaves GTAIV and SCIV. They clearly show a technical advantage in power.

What is this technical advantage? I thought both versions of these games looked the same.

What is this technical advantage? I thought both versions of these games looked the same.

DoDGE_R_xz

I should make it clear that I think the games look nearly identical, but that is aside from the point I'm making. For instance, the 360 version of GTA IV runs 1280x720p 2xAA while the PS3 version runs 1152x640p 0xAA. I understand that they opted to use a lower res and different post processing for the PS3 version, but that's still a 20% difference in resolution even without AA. To me that's a significant difference and it makes me conclude that the PS3 could not do what the 360 was doing, but the 360 could easily use the same method as the PS3 with the gimped res and lack of AA.

Same thing with SCIV. It's just my opinion. I do think the games are nearly indistinguishable from each other, I was just talking about the GPUs.

I love how the GPU and CPU are both under Processing power instead of seperate as to not have to admit that the Xenos smashes the RSX :roll:

Either way, Cows always makes threads comparing and saying because my PS3 has more hardware features ..then the 360 it nullifies the 360 having a better library.

Guess what cows me and every other non cow would rather have better games than hardware features so thread failed.

Erik_Lensherr

ps3 275,000,000 poygons per second

xbox360 500.000,000 polygons per second

advantage:xbox 360

you forgot one, and one that's really important for graphics

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

I love how the GPU and CPU are both under Processing power instead of seperate as to not have to admit that the Xenos smashes the RSX :roll:

Either way, Cows always makes threads comparing and saying because my PS3 has more hardware features ..then the 360 it nullifies the 360 having a better library.

Guess what cows me and every other non cow would rather have better games than hardware features so thread failed.

WhiteKnightXIII

Troll read the thread topic PS3 vs 360....you're just upset because you cannot deny what I said , so your only retort was to say

biggest troll ever..again read thethread topic = your the only troll in here

I love original threadsMongo-Boss

i own both, so neither is better.

xbox 360 has some stuff over the ps3

ps3 has some stuff over the xbox 360

lets stop bashing either of them, and just accept that theyre good systems

Syk0_k03r

Games and online... pretty important for a gaming machine.

CPU power cannot save you from a weak GPU. The 360's Xenos destroys the RSX. I used to think it was somewhat even in the past, but now I've seen that it's not even close.

gamecubepad

as much as i love ati the chip in the 360 is trash compared to the rsx from nvidia. the thing about the ps3 is that its harder to program for because the cell is so complicated(the cell also does some gpu work, so lazy programming=a hit to graphics)

[QUOTE="bushidotu"]im glad i have both systems so i get the best of both worlds =]110million

Yep. In the end, that list is pointless, it comes down to games, and having both gets you all games you'd want.

yep same here

well this is whats missing from the PS3

no BC with any games

no memory stick card readers

no SACD playback

and it only has 2 USB 2.0

this is all stuff it use to have but now its lost so why is it so expensive it hasn't come down that much in price but hey look at the 360 thats cheap as nuts now and it has BC.

This is a terrible thread,all of the plus points for the ps3 are pointless, who would buy a console over the other becasue of audio support, or hard drive options and noise levels .

All that really matters is the games, which os something you got right

EDIT- the look and feel? wtf

PROCESSING POWER
The CPU of the Playstation 3 is a 3.2GHz Cell Broadband Engine with up to 8 "synergistic" processing units. The Xbox 360 sports a custom 3.2GHz G5 with 3 dual-threaded cores. The Playstation 3 has 512K of L2 cache while the Xbox 360 has 1MB of L2 cache. The PS3 has 256MB of main memory plus 256MB of video memory while the Xbox 360 shares 512MB between the CPU and GPU. Plus it has 10MB of very fast eDRAM dedicated to the GPU. The memory bandwidth of the PS3 is 25.6GB/s versus 22.4GB/s for the Xbox 360.

The Playstation 3 uses an nVidia RSX "Reality Sythe****" graphics processor (GPU) with 24 pixel pipelines and 12 vertex pipelines while the Xbox 360 uses a custom ATI processor with 48 unified pixel/vertex pipelines.

Combining the CPU and GPU power, the Playstation 3 is rated at 51 billion dot-product-operations-per-second (dpo/s). The Xbox 360 is rated at 34 billion dpo/s.

Advantage: PS3

STORAGE OPTIONS
The PS3 model came with a 80GB/60GB/40GB/20GB hard drive. The Xbox 360 has 20GB/120 GB hard drive. After doing some research, the PS3 hard drive is a laptop hard drive, you can upgrade your PS3 hard drive up to 300GB of space.

Advantage: PS3

The PS3 optical drive is a slot loading Blu-ray BD-ROM drive. It can launch games or play DVD movie discs or Blu-ray movie discs. The Xbox 360 has a tray load Dual-Layer DVD-ROM drive. To play HD movies on the Xbox 360, you must purchase a $199 optional external tray load HD-DVD player that can only be used for DVD or HD-DVD movie playback. The internal tray load optical drive is still required for launching games.

Advantage: PS3

The PS3 has support for various memory cards (SD, CF, and Memory Stick). The Xbox 360 sports two memory card slots that accept proprietary memory units (up to 512MB each). Both consoles have multiple USB 2.0 ports. I understand you can use them to connect things like the iPod, Flash Drives, USB hard drives, and even Sony's PSP.

Advantage: PS3

GRAPHICS
http://media.techeblog.com/images/graphics_compare.jpg (Assasins creed 250% zoom)

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/12/xbox_360_vs_ps3.jpg (Need For Speed Carbon)

http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/userimages/2008/05/iron-man-sony-ps3-vs-xbox-360.jpg (Iron Man)

http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2007/november/ps3_xbox_nfsprostreet.jpg (Need For Speed Prostreet)

http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/fight_night_3_detail.jpg (Fight Night 3)

Different people have different views. So you pick.

NOISE LEVELS
The Playstation 3's fans are quieter than the Xbox 360. When first turned on, the PS3 is under 40db while the Xbox hovers at 47db. When a game disc is loaded and the game is running, the PS3 rises to 44db while the Xbox rises to 55db. Of course, when we turn on the sound courtesy of our Bose 3-2-1 system, the decibel level rises over 73, drowning out any noise from the game console fans.

However, if you are trying to watch a quiet scene in a movie, the Xbox fan noise interfered with the pleasure of the moment. That wasn't the case with the PS3.

Advantage: PS3

VIDEO SUPPORT
The PS3 has an HDMI port and supports 1080p. That comes in handy if you have a Full 1080p TV. In the case of the Xbox 360 the best quality video output is component and maxes at 1080i. The Xbox 360 Elite, however, does include an HDMI port and supports 1080p.

Advantage: neither

AUDIO SUPPORT
Toslink optical audio ports are available on both consoles. The PS3's audio circuitry can decode up to 7.1 channels of audio in the Dolby Digital, DTS, SACD and Dolby TrueHD formats. The Xbox 360 can decode up to 5.1 channels of audio in Dolby Digtal and DTS. It down-converts Dolby TrueHD.

Advantage: PS3

DISC
The PS3 use the new Blu-ray BD-ROM disc while the Xbox 360 use the HD-DVD ROM. Blu-ray BD-ROM can store up to 25 GB the dual layer can store up to 50 GB and the highest test capicity of the disc is 100 GB to 200 GB. HD-DVD ROM can store up to 15 GB while the dual layer can store up to 30 GB. While the highest capicity is 45 GB to 60 GB.

While the HD-DVD maximum data transfer is 36.55 Mbits/s the Blu-ray is 53.95 Mbits/s.

Advantage: PS3 (Blu-ray)

BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
The Xbox 360 will handle some Xbox titles while the PS3(80 GB/60 GB) can play all of the PS2 titles without any problems. That can be useful when you want to play a racing game like Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) until the HD version is released for the PS3. But if you go with the 20 GB PS3 or 40 GB PS3 it will not have backwards compatibility. On the other hand all of the Xbox 360 versions will have backwards compatibility. But the fact that not all Xbox games can be played at Xbox 360 i'm giving this round to PS3.

Advantage: PS3

space-invaders