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#1 jman1553
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is what I would be saying if I didn't know better. Most of us say, "All it is is a wii-mote with a ball at the end?"

Tell me if this looks a bit familiar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isHJAyCICw4&feature=related

It's quite possible Sony wants to capitalize on the Wii's success, but you can see that they had the technology out before the wii, and they just never had the opportunity they wanted to release it.

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#2 Ravensmash
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I think the Wii was first concieved in 2001 to be fair.
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#4 HavocV3
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design choices from the Wiimote is the problem.

not using this light technology for tracking.

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#5 wiifan001
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Theoretically the Move should be better than the wii mote because the wii remote uses an infrared pointer, which even with wii motion plus makes just baaaarely short of 1:1 control The Move uses light beam which definitely gives a 1:1. However, there is no denying Sony STOLE Nintendo's idea. Other than the light beam from the ball attached to the end of it, there is absolutely nothing I've seen that the Wii Motion Plus couldn't already do.
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#6 RTUUMM
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meh it doesnt really matter, MOVE, Wii Motion Plus, samething. Eye Toy/ PS Eye = Natal/Kinect
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#7 Fuhgeddabouditt
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I see it as this, that Nintendo was the only one this gen to take the biggest and boldest move. The move that has now turned to a success. It may be true that Sony may have thought of it at first but at the end of the day, they didnt have the "balls" to go "all out" the way Nintendo did. Nintendo is like the popular kid in school that every zombie follows.

This is of course, how I see it :?

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#8 XboximusPrime
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Seems more like a better Wiimote to me.

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#9 Respawn-d
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intresting. And thats the same man behind the move.

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#10 SwagSurf
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And Natal isn't an EyeToy rip off :|

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#11 RadecSupreme
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And natal is a huge eyetoy ripoff.

Proof = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gOVj_I5npA

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#12 luisen123
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Let's not stop there boys, videogames are a huge real-life rip-off.
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#13 Respawn-d
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eyetoy was an amazing device which sony never but effort into making popular.

Eyetoy was the beginning of motion

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#14 fifamessi
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PlayStation Move is a HUGE rip-offjman1553
IMO natal is eyetoy 1.3, a tiny bit better than eyetoy(which was on ps2 btw) and just 3 times the price.
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#15 RTUUMM
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And Natal isn't an EyeToy rip off :|

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some one didnt read before posting
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I see it as this, that Nintendo was the only one this gen to take the biggest and boldest move. The move that has now turned to a success. It may be true that Sony may have thought of it at first but at the end of the day, they didnt have the "balls" to go "all out" the way Nintendo did. Nintendo is like the popular kid in school that every zombie follows.

This is of course, how I see it :?

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So how does eyetoy fit in there
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#17 gago-gago
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Even though the Move can be more accurate and a better motion controller than the Wiimote, I do agree that people will just see the Move as a Wiimote rip-off since the Wii is so successful. While the majority of people will think the Kinect or Project Natal as something new, since no other gaming camera hasn't been really successful. I think that will be the perspective of many especially the casuals.

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Nice find, thanks TC. I think the real problem is more on the consumer end of things, Sony sometimes is slow on the uptake of realizing what's popular - what people are interested in, and what people aren't. And that's where they end up in the position of appearing to copy other people, even when it's clear they were working on similar things beforehand.

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#20 Respawn-d
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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

And natal is a huge eyetoy ripoff.

Proof = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gOVj_I5npA

HavocV3

and SIXAXIS is a sidewinder ripoff?

oh look, Sony copied MS like MS copied Sony.

Nintendo is the innovator, let's face the facts here.

it started with eyetoy. Get over it. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/Sidewinder_gamepad.jpg if anything side winder just copied sega
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#21 HarlockJC
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Does it really matter? A wiimote with HD graphics are a win for everyone.
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[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

And natal is a huge eyetoy ripoff.

Proof = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gOVj_I5npA

Respawn-d

and SIXAXIS is a sidewinder ripoff?

oh look, Sony copied MS like MS copied Sony.

Nintendo is the innovator, let's face the facts here.

it started with eyetoy. Get over it. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/Sidewinder_gamepad.jpg if anything side winder just copied sega

Sega didn't have a motion sensing gamepad.

but they did have camera-based games in development for the DreamEye.

I'm sorry, but Sony isn't the innocent victim here, no matter what way you spin it.

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#23 IWKYB
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[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

And natal is a huge eyetoy ripoff.

Proof = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gOVj_I5npA

Respawn-d

and SIXAXIS is a sidewinder ripoff?

oh look, Sony copied MS like MS copied Sony.

Nintendo is the innovator, let's face the facts here.

it started with eyetoy. Get over it. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/Sidewinder_gamepad.jpg if anything side winder just copied sega

There are older body tracking tech/games you know. Natal=Eyetoy? So my eyetoy can recognize my face and voice? Track 4 people, and it still bores me. Move=Wii. Yes it has no real tracking CALIBRATION after each game and lag.
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#24 IWKYB
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Does it really matter? A wiimote with HD graphics are a win for everyone. HarlockJC
Except they aren't HD. Well 720p is the lowest HD...this isn't HD. Plus I already have my Wii and you know sony doesn't have Zelda.
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#25 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Does it really matter? A wiimote with HD graphics are a win for everyone. IWKYB
Except they aren't HD. Well 720p is the lowest HD...this isn't HD. Plus I already have my Wii and you know sony doesn't have Zelda.

720 is HD and overall graphics make wii look 10 years old.
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#26 Nasi-goreng
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Sony has a long history of copying Nintendo. People already anticipated Sony ripping off the Wii Remote as early as 2005. (http://www.electricpig.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ps3-wiimote.jpg). .I won't be surprised if PSP2 has dual screens and a touch screen. LOL
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"][QUOTE="HavocV3"]

and SIXAXIS is a sidewinder ripoff?

oh look, Sony copied MS like MS copied Sony.

Nintendo is the innovator, let's face the facts here.

HavocV3

it started with eyetoy. Get over it. if anything side winder just copied sega

Sega didn't have a motion sensing gamepad.

but they did have camera-based games in development for the DreamEye.

I'm sorry, but Sony isn't the innocent victim here, no matter what way you spin it.

There guilty of what. sidewinder had only 4 ways, right left and up down. Sidewinders layout is also just like sega genisis's Also the dream eye was just a web cam

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#28 Respawn-d
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Sony has a long history of copying Nintendo. People already anticipated Sony ripping off the Wii Remote as early as 2005. (http://www.electricpig.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ps3-wiimote.jpg). .I won't be surprised if PSP2 has dual screens and a touch screen. LOLNasi-goreng
because no other media portables have a touch screen right ?
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#29 Nasi-goreng
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[QUOTE="Nasi-goreng"]Sony has a long history of copying Nintendo. People already anticipated Sony ripping off the Wii Remote as early as 2005. (http://www.electricpig.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ps3-wiimote.jpg). .I won't be surprised if PSP2 has dual screens and a touch screen. LOLRespawn-d
because no other media portables have a touch screen right ?

What other gaming systems featured a touch screen before the DS?
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#30 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="Nasi-goreng"]Sony has a long history of copying Nintendo. People already anticipated Sony ripping off the Wii Remote as early as 2005. (http://www.electricpig.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ps3-wiimote.jpg). .I won't be surprised if PSP2 has dual screens and a touch screen. LOLRespawn-d
because no other media portables have a touch screen right ?

Huh, even Apple copied from Nintendo. And those PDAs back in 1992, too.

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#31 Shirokishi_
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I think Sony is dumb for not ripping it off 3 years ago....

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#32 fifamessi
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"] There are older body tracking tech/games you know. Natal=Eyetoy? So my eyetoy can recognize my face and voice? Track 4 people, and it still bores me. Move=Wii. Yes it has no real tracking CALIBRATION after each game and lag.

oh wow a couple of additional features, that definately means it isnt a rip-off of eyetoy.. :S So if PS move does something that wiimote cant it isnt a rip-off? Face it its pretty much the same thing. Natal = eyetoy 1.2 Move = Wiimote 1.2
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#33 djsifer01
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So what? It looks like Sony took what Nintendo had and made it better. I dont see the problem.
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#34 Respawn-d
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Well natal will have the better games. Like the recently confirmed

Kinectimalslet's you train and play with 20 different virtual cats

:lol:

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#35 IWKYB
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So what? It looks like Sony took what Nintendo had and made it better. I dont see the problem.djsifer01
By doing what? Making it a wand? Making you buy the thing at a more expensive rate? Eyetoy+wand+another wand+accesorry...ugh No PROMISED body tracking, same issues the wii had... Also... Graphics? Did you see those unemotional avatars? lol. Move is the same thing. THE SAME THING. How can people ignore that? Kinect is not the same thing as the eyetoy. The eyetoy is more like the wii where you just flap your arms around to kill teh zombies! :D Kinect also fails as it brings no games to the table. (shovelware so far just like the eyetoy.)
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nobody should use eyetoy or pseye to prove anything. Those are horrible techs without any precision, a black mark on sony imo. They promise a lot and overcharge for the thing and then have the gall to avoid any attempt at giving the people who bought it some content. It isn't precise, it isn't innovative, it isn't fun. Simple as that.
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[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"] it started with eyetoy. Get over it. if anything side winder just copied sega Respawn-d

Sega didn't have a motion sensing gamepad.

but they did have camera-based games in development for the DreamEye.

I'm sorry, but Sony isn't the innocent victim here, no matter what way you spin it.

There guilty of what. sidewinder had only 4 ways, right left and up down. Sidewinders layout is also just like sega genisis's Also the dream eye was just a web cam

I was concerned with the motion controls, not layout. but there's some strikingly similar styles between the original Xbox controller and Sega dreamcast/genesis etc. not like I'm ignorant on this bit of news. not trying to defend MS fully here......

but adding some features(2 extra axis) kept SIXAXIS in the innovation zone? no it doesn't, otherwise Natal is good to go too.

oh wait, having a 2nd analog stick was innovation as well:|(Vectrex, not N64, again, I know) I see how this works.

DreamEye had planned games, kind of like how Sony planned to use the light technology, but there's no proof they had plans to use a Wiimote-esque controller. the design choice was the problem. and this video proves little. considering we already knew there's differences between the light tech vs. a sensor bar and infrared.

the Dreamcast being in all of this discussion.....it was 'ahead of its time' for more than 1 reason;)

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IWKYB is just jealous that the ps3 move will be better then the wii lets face it the hardware and graphics of the wii suck and only supports 480p games and ps3 has 720p games and some 1080p games

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nobody should use eyetoy or pseye to prove anything. Those are horrible techs without any precision, a black mark on sony imo. They promise a lot and overcharge for the thing and then have the gall to avoid any attempt at giving the people who bought it some content. It isn't precise, it isn't innovative, it isn't fun. Simple as that.GunSmith1_basic
This. 100x times this. They didn't do it right, like they said they would. No need to buy the wii again.
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]So what? It looks like Sony took what Nintendo had and made it better. I dont see the problem.IWKYB
By doing what? Making it a wand? Making you buy the thing at a more expensive rate? Eyetoy+wand+another wand+accesorry...ugh No PROMISED body tracking, same issues the wii had... Also... Graphics? Did you see those unemotional avatars? lol. Move is the same thing. THE SAME THING. How can people ignore that? Kinect is not the same thing as the eyetoy. The eyetoy is more like the wii where you just flap your arms around to kill teh zombies! :D Kinect also fails as it brings no games to the table. (shovelware so far just like the eyetoy.)

ANd in natal you dont flap your arms around http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWQlKFhOp9M
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

Sega didn't have a motion sensing gamepad.

but they did have camera-based games in development for the DreamEye.

I'm sorry, but Sony isn't the innocent victim here, no matter what way you spin it.

HavocV3

There guilty of what. sidewinder had only 4 ways, right left and up down. Sidewinders layout is also just like sega genisis's Also the dream eye was just a web cam

I was concerned with the motion controls, not layout. but there's some strikingly similar styles between the original Xbox controller and Sega dreamcast/genesis etc. not like I'm ignorant on this bit of news. not trying to defend MS fully here......

but adding some features(2 directions) kept SIXAXIS in the innovation zone? no it doesn't, otherwise Natal is good to go too.

oh wait, having a 2nd analog stick was innovation as well:|(Vectrex, not N64, again, I know) I see how this works.

DreamEye had planned games, kind of like how Sony planned to use the light technology, but there's no proof they had plans to use a Wiimote-esque controller. the design choice was the problem. and this video proves little. considering we already knew there's differences between the light tech vs. a sensor bar and infrared.

the Dreamcast being in all of this discussion.....it was 'ahead of its time' for more than 1 reason;)

seriously move lags just as much as M+ if not more

it could have all these things it COULD do but all i seen that was done is its just another wiimote sony-fied

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#42 IWKYB
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IWKYB is just jealous that the ps3 move will be better then the wii lets face it the hardware and graphics of the wii suck and only supports 480p games and ps3 has 720p games and some 1080p games

Mcspanky37
I have all 3 consoles. (Ps3 Yellowed :() I'm not jealous I'm mad they want to feed me this crap and some of you are willing to eat anything they feed you!
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Sheep are in defend mode knowing its only difference is gone. Only reason to purchase a wii now is if you love plumber's for some strange reason.
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Sheep are in defend mode knowing its only difference is gone. Only reason to purchase a wii now is if you love plumber's for some strange reason.killzowned24
Your opinion is wrong, and on a number of reasons. Oh and motion controls were a central core idea for the Wii and not just some peripheral being added midway between the life span of the PS3. There's no denying that fact.
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[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]

IWKYB is just jealous that the ps3 move will be better then the wii lets face it the hardware and graphics of the wii suck and only supports 480p games and ps3 has 720p games and some 1080p games

IWKYB
I have all 3 consoles. (Ps3 Yellowed :() I'm not jealous I'm mad they want to feed me this crap and some of you are willing to eat anything they feed you!

Who cares? It's something unique. I wouldn't mind buying it if they have the games to back it up. Beats the Wiimote.
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Sheep are in defend mode knowing its only difference is gone. Only reason to purchase a wii now is if you love plumber's for some strange reason.killzowned24
It will be interesting to see how third parties react. I suspect about a year after launch almost all "hardcore" Wii third party games will be multiplat with the PS3 - even if the install base of the Move is small.

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#48 IWKYB
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]

IWKYB is just jealous that the ps3 move will be better then the wii lets face it the hardware and graphics of the wii suck and only supports 480p games and ps3 has 720p games and some 1080p games

KHAndAnime
I have all 3 consoles. (Ps3 Yellowed :() I'm not jealous I'm mad they want to feed me this crap and some of you are willing to eat anything they feed you!

Who cares? It's something unique. I wouldn't mind buying it if they have the games to back it up. Beats the Wiimote.

Right IF something is unique. Which it won't. Midway life of PS3? In less than 2 years we will see a PS4.
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Sheep are in defend mode knowing its only difference is gone. Only reason to purchase a wii now is if you love plumber's for some strange reason.wiifan001
Your opinion is wrong, and on a number of reasons. Oh and motion controls were a central core idea for the Wii and not just some peripheral being added midway between the life span of the PS3. There's no denying that fact.

No its not:) so what about midway.it has it now and does it better:)