Playstation NOW will be a HUGE problem for MS

mark my words!

ps1, ps2 and ps3 games streaming t ps4 with enhanced gfx on ps1 and ps2 games think about the immense backlog ZOMG

• final fantasy
• tekken
• persona
• syphon filter
• crash bandicoot
• twisted metal
• gran turismo
• spyro
• god of war
• devil may cry
• jak
• socom
• jak and daxter
• timesplitter
• chrono cross

and ofcourse my all time favorite game metal gear solid series

also all those classic 3rd party games i didn't mention with enhanced ps1 and ps2 gfx like GTA etc

all those people that never had a ps1 and ps2 got all those masterpiece games in 1 huge cloud.

promote this shit sony instant win win situation beta already in full swing

you are in big trouble MS

https://www.gaikai.com/

it just works

link

yeah its a good library.

mmm, the library.

lmao

Perhaps wait to see if it actually works before you go all fanboy about it

OnLive says hi.

You know, that service that tried to stream games... and bombed...

If it does not lag ... I highly doubt that lag will not be a problem for most people.

As a person who has no love for MS or Xbox I don't see PS Now doing much of anything or being worth any price.

I think the whole PS Now thing is going to fall flat and this is coming from a PlayStation supporter.

It's not exclusive to PS4

So,how's is it a threat to Microsoft in its gobality?

It has potential. MS has already got enough things to worry about this gen.

Another thing that could possibly be a big deal breaker is Sony's VR if they do it right. Would come across far more next gen than Kinect 2.0 ever did.

nah.............. i dont see PS Now being a big deal.

although its just $50 a year which is a good price, but the fact that you have to pay $50 for PSN+ too.... is a bit too much.

Also, i dont think people care that much for PS1 PS2 games like they were back in 7th gen cuz no BC on PS3 was a factor back then but over the years people stop caring.

I still have all my ps3 games and the few PS2 games i wanted were already released ad HD collections on the PS3....

true but who was Onlive and what resources did they have?

while Gaikkai and PLAYSTATION already have the resources and are far more capable.

but it may still be crap tho lol who knows

It's not even planned for Canada at the moment. :(

Sony, resources? Will they have to sell another building?

True, but I still remain skeptical until it's proven it can be done.

Most of the World just isn't ready for streamed games.

Nah don't be daft.

They're only selling off mobile and TV divisions for it...

I don't think we can say whether or not PS Now will be a hit since we know very little and what the offers will be, I think Gaikai is an amazing service and Sony needs to implement this in a smart way and I hope they do, I think the power of Gaikai is great and could also lead to a cloud tv service Sony has been planning as for PS now I'll wait for more information.

that is true, but we don't know the pricing and their full plan maybe first on ps4 or whatever

also plans change

a building is a resource. What buildings can the Onlive people sell?

you already know the pricing interesting

also don't speak for yourself there are a shit load of people that never touched a ps1 or ps2

Sony said they are making only PS3 games streamed games for PS Now. PS1 and PS2 games will be done with hardware emulation.

PS Now is a wait and see how good it is type of a deal. If done very well, It would be an advantage.

scam streaming rental service...perfect for cows. they go for any garbage Sony offers lol.

PS3 had some dope ass games. If it works then it'll be worth the 50 bucks alone to play demon souls, uncharted 2, mgs4 and the last of us.

Why does everyone on SW seem to think Sony is a small/poor company? Lets not forget they have more than $15 billion worth of assets and equity of nearly $30 billion.

At the end of the day it is still a near 80 billion dollar company

Sony milking the cows, who wants to pay the extra fees when you can pickup these games for cheap as chips and play lag free.

please stop

MS's answer to PS Now: Halo/Forza/Gears/Fable. MS's answer to PS4 in general: Halo/Forza/Gears/Fable. MS's answer to last gen: Halo/Forza/Gears/Fable. MS's answer to two gens ago: Halo/Forza/Fable. All in all MS is in dipsh*t.

It doesn't matter what resources you have you cannot change the nature of the universe. Internet speed isn't enough ping is the issue and unless Sony drops a server farm in every single city they offer the service in its going to have input lag because you already have input lag in a local environment you will now compound that with internet lag, I played onlive quite a few times since its launch till the time it closed down and there wasn't a single time input lag wasn't present which kills all fast paced games.

There is no algorithm you can use, there is no technology. Electricity, transfer of information, the resistance of copper, fiber optic lines, and distance these are fundamental facts in nature and as I said short of Sony dropping a direct line server center in every single city they offer this service in its going to have input lag which kills fast paced games and even slow paced games.

I tried using OnLive a few times during it's life too, and over here in the UK, it was beyond awful for lag; and I think they used lower graphics settings too here than they did over there.

Think streaming services are still too early to work properly because of connection issues.

That's why I always lol about Xbone's "cloud".

It's just PR talk.

But that would be logical.

Exactly how do they plan on dealing with online lag on top of input lag?

Your words are marked OP.

There were already subscription plans showing its price the same as PS+. I do not see how this will pan out in the long run.

This won't be an option for most of US flyover country. For those that live in the heart of a major metropolis, it will be magnificent In a decade it will be an industry standard..

I don't think so. Backwards compatibility only has a short space of time when it has a big impact which is at the beginning of a gen when there are no games. I think Sony need to make this global right now to have the biggest impact and they aren't ready. We're only around six months away from a more consistent release of games on current gen consoles. I think Sony needed to release this service at the beginning of the first year, not the end,

Traditionally, no one gives a shit about backwards compatibility in any significant way once a current gen console takes off.

And the market for older games is niche.

@HalcyonScarlet:

I think you are very, very wrong. Corporations run on numbers, and swaying three percent of millions has a very huge impact, particularly when they start talking to others and spread the word. I haven't touched a Playstation console in four years, and that was for a couple of hours. It has been well over a decade since I have had one in my home.

Pure, unrestricted access to an entire library spanning decades for a few bucks a month? That is more then enough to get me to drop three hundred dollars on a gimped box that turns basic features such as multiplayer into a freaking micro-transaction. I don't care how obsolete the hardware is in a year or two. I have missed Persona, and Suikoden. I have missed Valkyrie Profile and Star Ocean. Beyond that, I have dropped thirty bucks on games that had poorer graphics then any of those and then invested scores of hours into them.

Maybe I am only one to five percent of hermits, but that is hundreds of thousands of people who haven't given any money to Sony in a decade brought into their fold with a gleeful smile. If Sony is smart enough to make this compatible with Linex but not Windows, it is a pretty huge blow to Microsoft. If Sony is bright enough to partner with Steam on this one, holy crap. Something like that wouldn't just cripple Microsoft, it would be the end of System wars.

I don't care how awesome the next Halo is, nothing could stand before the swarm of mooing hermits that would summon.

When you don't have any next gen games, you might as well serve up old shit everyone has played.

Microsoft : not feeling threatened.

Yeah it's a good nostalgia trip for a while and I too buy and have a lot of old games. But I don't think that means it has a big enough impact to affect current gen consoles. And you don't need a PS4 to access the service.

And it wouldn't be an entire library. I'd imagine it would be 40% or less.

Also it would hurt Sony more not to use Windows. MS don't get money on software that uses Windows but there are more Windows PCs and gamers than any other, It would be as stupid as MS saying Xbox consoles won't work on Sony TVs.

Not exclusive to ps4, and not available in canada... no worries from the MS camp.

While it is fun to go back and play games for nostalgia purposes it wears off quickly. I have every NES and SNES games on roms had them for almost 10 years haven't played them in years. If there is lag in this system it will fail, if there isn't and it runs great you'll have people jumping on board right away but it will wear off and don't see too many people paying for it and coming back for a second year

I have onlive installed on my pc at work and it does work, i dont play many games on it granted, mainly demos for a half hour here and there but the service always works for me.

Streaming like this makes the most sense for backwards compatibility. I know the tech seems pretty young and OnLive did bomb, but it has a lot more potential than people are giving it credit.

Everybody in the future will be doing something similar to this. It just makes the most sense from a hardware perspective. Making backwards compatibility on new hardware is costly for the R&D and then ups the price of the device. This is much easier as the device in question only has to run software, no need for extra hardware.

What killed OnLive was the price, lack of games, and general business strategy. Their target, PC gamers, didn't see any real benefit from having OnLive. Not only is there the issue of latency, but there was also the issue of price. Games were full priced on OnLive and you couldn't have a local copy of the game. It was marketed to the wrong people. PC gamers don't have as big of a need for backwards compatibility as there are entire services out there dedicated to getting older games to run well on modern PCs (Good Old Games being the biggest). Furthermore PC gamers were getting better graphics without the effects of compression.

With the consoles it's different. Backwards compatibility is an issue and this is a great way to solve that. Sony was pretty smart to pick up Gaikai and I'm sure Microsoft has something similar in development on their robust cloud network.

The issue again will be price. Nobody is going to want to pay a lot for a worse experience. I wouldn't mind paying a bit for game access for older titles, but that access will have to be permanent so in 10 years I can still play the games I purchased on the system on any platform Sony supports. So if the PS5 is out by then I can still use Playstation Now to stream PS3 games that I purchased. I would also love the ability to activate games I already have a physical disk for, or at least get a sizeable discount as I really don't need to buy the game again, I just need Playstation Now access of the game.

Anyways I don't think this is any sort of threat to Microsoft and they'll be showing off their own version of this soon enough. Backwards compatibility is great for nostalgia but doesn't really drive sales. We saw at the beginning of the 7th gen that the vast majority of new console owners didn't care about backwards compatibility. It's really more of a customer service rather than a selling point.

I cant see it. while that library is impressive the reliance on individual's sporadic internet connections will make most games lag or be unplayable. But I guess we will see.

Halo - Forza - Gears - Fable.

I expect PS Now to be pretty awful when it launches, but pretty good after a couple of years if Sony sticks with it that long. The service needs to be cheap.

The problem is with expectation it won't work for the first i'd say about year

Services like this never work off the bat but do grow and get better over time.

It's a shame it'll have awesome potential but it will be squandered by cry baby gamers.

Do you know what the cloud actually is for the Xbox One?

Playstation Now will be and IS a huge problem for gamers.