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You missed the point there; i wasn't talking about Crysis, but about your line of argument about my opinion as fact and demanding anything of others in regard to their opinion.Doctor-McNinja
For someone who complains about being strawmanned and hamstrung they can't discuss a legitimate argument because of their debators, you're doing a fantastic job of derailing the topic.
I never said you claimed your opinion was fact, I said you were simultaneously trying to be argumentative and pretend you weren't being argumentative.
As for crysis itself, you've discussed very little of Crysis with me.Doctor-McNinja
Because you've given me nothing to work with! In a topic discussing the merits and perils of Crysis, you've brought up almost nothing. What do you think of the level design, the story, the missions, the weapons, the suit abilities.
It isn't my job to stimulate the reasons for your opinion in your topic.
Hence i haven't given much discussion to it because that's not where the discussion has been aimed; it's been aimed at this pointless 'your opinion aint fact'/'dont tell people what to do!' nonsense. As for your list of character assassinations: 1) User review comment was used in response to a point on critic reviews. Nothing unreasonable about that.Doctor-McNinja
There most certainly is. There are user reviews for Superman 64 which award it 10/10, because the standard of proof and integrity of users is very low.
2) Saying it retreaded the same ground as Far Cry as a response to the point that the game was unique; nothing unreasonable about that. Doctor-McNinja
That point alone cannot stand however. It is not un-unique simply because it has the same developer.
3) The AI IS bad. They react to the sound of footsteps but not the sound of massive explosions. They walk off bridges to their own death. They crash their vehicles and kill each other. Doctor-McNinja
Couldn't you have posted something substantive like this earlier?
Mock me all you want, nothing i said is remotely unreasonable. 'Hopelessly inadequate' - really? :roll: You also tell me that i fail to give any decent reasons, citing the story as an example of a good one, when i said myself that the story and dialogue weren't up to scratch.Doctor-McNinja
Why do you think people in this topic are almost universally attacking you? Because you've substantiated your opinion terribly, you've spent more time blustering about being misrepresented than giving actual arguments as to why Crysis is ordinary.
At a certain point I myself have to realize I'm just fuelling your fire by giving you opportunities to not discuss your opinion, so I will take my leave of this dreadful thread.
i've said plenty of times why the gameplay is lacking -Doctor-McNinja
this is an impossibility. considering the gameplay in reality is up to you (aside from being an FPS, then again hell you can just lay the beat down and turn it into a brawler) its impossible for it to be lacking.
you may not like the story, you may not like the design, you may not like the game but if you dont like the gameplay you dont like FPSs period.
Doctor-McNinja, though I may not share your opinions, I respect your ability to remain friendly despite the hostile reception from some of my fellow PC gamers. shalashaska88I think this has run its course to be completely honest. And with that let's take a look back: I made a number of mistakes; one was the topic title. Had i posted that any number of places it wouldn't have been an issue, but here it was. While i dont have a crystal ball to foresee that happening, i still think things would have gone down a little differently had that not been the TT. Certain people would have had less ammo to continue the redundant 'stop stating your opinion as fact!' nonsense. I also emphasised the negatives of Crysis too much, which made it out to be a bad game. That wasn't my point. Like i said i sung its praises at the time of release. My point was just to put things in perspective and knock it off this pedestal its been elevated onto on System Wars. In doing so however i made it sound like a BAD game, which it isn't. It's just not an INCREDIBLE game. What i have found more frustrating however, is this behaviour from some people in detracting everything away from any discussion of Crysis towards this 'your opinion isn't fact' avenue, only to then simultaneously complain that i haven't made any points regarding Crysis. I reply to the posts you give me; if you dont give me something which has anything to do with Crysis, how can you complain that my replies don't shed light on my opinion on it? There's been a sort of mini-group assault really where some have clubbed together in support despite the obviously flawed arguments; if it disagrees with the TC, i'll quote it and give it an Amen. That sort of thing. It's unfortunate. Anyway i'm just rambling at this point, but like i said, the thread has run its course. I've put my cards on the table multiple times; Crysis is a game which set a standard technically, but which failed to reach that high standard in other areas. That's my point of view, for what it's worth, and i dont think it's unreasonable or anywhere near as 'hopeless' as some have redundantly attempted to make it out to be.
[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"] i've said plenty of times why the gameplay is lacking -washd123
this is an impossibility. considering the gameplay in reality is up to you (aside from being an FPS, then again hell you can just lay the beat down and turn it into a brawler) its impossible for it to be lacking.
you may not like the story, you may not like the design, you may not like the game but if you dont like the gameplay you dont like FPSs period.
I think that's very flawed logic; it's impossible for gameplay to be lacking? If i make a twitch-shooter where every gun shoots water and your enemies have rocket launchers would the gameplay not be seriously lacking?I think that's very flawed logic; it's impossible for gameplay to be lacking? If i make a twitch-shooter where every gun shoots water and your enemies have rocket launchers would the gameplay not be seriously lacking? Doctor-McNinja
except heres the thing. that would be a game with only one type of gameplay thus lacking. crysis can be played any way you wish. be it like a twitch shooter, like a stealth shooter, a brawler, a melee game, a combination, essentially the gameplay outside of being an FPS is up to you. theres no way to find the gameplay lacking because its not.
like i said you can dislike the game, you can hate the design, you can dislike the story, or the multiplayer or w.e, but to call the gameplay lacking and to praise other modern shooters gameplay is wrong.
really the only thing crysis isnt as far as gameplay goes is a team based shooter. you really do go it solo.
Puh-leaze. All you've done is piggy-back on any negative reply to the thread regardless of how logical a point it may or may not have been in order to further make your stance appear unanimous and unassailable. You hold onto this useless line of argument; 'you're trying to have an opinion while saying you're not pushing an opinion!" which i've addressed as redundant and completely untrue about a dozen times.At a certain point I myself have to realize I'm just fuelling your fire by giving you opportunities to not discuss your opinion, so I will take my leave of this dreadful thread.
Danm_999
At that point you decide to abandon that and tell me i'm not giving any good points about Crysis; yeah, i know i'm not. Because i've just spent the past 20 minutes engaged in a pointless argument about how i'm supposedly giving an opinion yet claiming not to be. You should remember that argument really, you started it.
Then you just take any point i make and dismiss it as absurdly dreadful; logic so utterly awful it cannot even be comprehended, as if saying that alone makes it so. If someone says Crysis is unique and someone else says it isn't, citing Far Cry as an example of where it came from you cannot reply as though that comment is ABSURD. Disagree if you want, but to act like that point is mind-numbingly stupid is just silly. Also, i didn't say it was the same because 'it came from the same developer.' Watering down someones point into something stupid only demonstrates that it was a good point in the first place. And then when given a point you cant disregard as heart-wrenchingly terrible what approach do you take? "Why couldn't you have said that earlier?" And you accuse me of not posting anything useful or substantive? REALLY?
Take your leave of this 'dreadful thread' by all means. Lord knows i'll only continue to post points so apocalyptically terrible that words will fail to describe their sheer and utter horrendousness.
Usually, I never try to voice my opinion on games. But I'm going to give it a try.
I play Crysis on Very High because I have a pretty good rig I think. It looks beautiful on High to Very High(playing(playing in DX10 for me). That I can Agree. The island looks wonderful. The jungle surely looks awesome and. It has a challenging AI and good play. Its destruction is very good, from destroying palm tree to destroying an Alien Hunter. You customize your guns with almost any type of attachment. That I love. You can mix and match attachments as you see fit to help you take down your enemy. I do like thats its long. Its alot more longer both modern warfare's(I think I beat MW2 on easy in 5 hours and 7 hours on normal).
However, like all games, Crysis has its flaws. For one, I'm a guy that likes a good storyline And I like one thats its both something I can enjoy but its not too complicated or easy to understand. Maybe just in the middle. I don't know really. It doesn't have storyline that is like something like half like, or halo, or doom(maybe not doom. Maybe AVP. Maybe the old Clancy games). IMO, I think crysis storyline is about a C+. I like a storyline that can draw me into a the game and the character. Some say Master Chief is nothing special. I, myself atleast think theres nothing special about Nomad. Hell, I think Psycho and maybe even Prophet are better. I would love if theres was prequel book on Crysis. I'm interested in not only the back story of the main character his fellow squadmate, but his enemies as well(The KPA and the aliens). Now I believe, that everyone has story. it doesn't matter if your friend or foe. Learning about the side your playing is important. But learning about your enemy, is important as well imo. (There have talks been talks that there is going to be a book base on the forerunners, which if its true; I will pick it up so I learn more about them and the flood).
Yes, I like the island and I do find it to be beautiful. But at the same time, I thought more can be down. I don't know really. Maybe have day and night system. Maybe it has it, I can't remember. But it could have change the game play even more with stealth tactics. Maybe it could have like a bigger town or a small city full of civilians that have to obey the KPA. Maybe the game could have add side objectives more. I remember when I was in VTOL, and there was some kind of objective to check on something. I would have love it you could save yours guys from the KPA who been taking as POW's. Or have you and the marines assault on KPA stronghold. Yea It doesn't work when the VTOL controls are not so good or when You got like 5 or more Alien Scouts attacking you from almost every direction. I almost lost interest in keep playing the game on that mission (And the ending level too thought it was alittle hard). I wish game like Crysis had more remarkable parts too.
I'm not really big on mp. But if I was, then I want to have lots of people playing it. Pc games like TF2, CSS, and maybe even CoD4 have alot of people playing it(and lets not forgot BFBC2). And Crysis 2 is coming to consoles aswell. And its MP going to have competition on the consoles aswell from things like MAG, Halo Reach, BFBC2, and even perhaps Treyarch's "Cold War" CoD.
What I don't like about the game is is system requirements. Mainly the CPU. If you running the game on Vista, you need atleast 3.2GHZ of a CPU. I can Overclock my I7 920 CPU to atleast 3.9GHZ with a third party air cooler. I hope the guys at Crytek, can find away to keep the at the same requirement or lower it. Or like you need a high end GPU. I mean I have to re-buy my xbox 360 aswell as some of the ps3 and xbox 360 games my dad throw away. Actually I don't know how well I can BFBC2 because. Maybe High since I have a 4890.
I don't hate the game. Even before I played Crysis or had a gaming rig(I had once since last August), I was very interested in Crysis and I hate to say this, but It what make got into PC Gaming(Like Halo 3 for the XBOX 360 and MGS4 and Killzone 2 for the PS3). I think this game had a lot of potential I wish the open world was alot more better, but thats what the sequel's for, right? I am excited for Crysis 2, and I hope it has a better storyline,mp, and would love it had co-op. I disagree with the game getting goty like the same I disagree MGS4 and GTAIV getting GOTY. I believe the game is atleast an 8.5.
I think a better tactic is to use Crysis as ownage against hermits.
LMAO @ hermits. Two + years later and you still don't have a game better looking than Crysis.
PC maxed out. Will the PC ever get a better looking game than Crysis?
Crysis. LMAO. You still don't have a better looking game.
PC, where's the innovation? Your best looking game you could run on old hardware.
PC now = consoles. No reason to ever change/upgrade hardware. Crysis proves it. So much for the power of upgrading. LMAO.
Try that. At least it might lead to a more interesting thread.
Usually, I never try to voice my opinion on games. But I'm going to give it a try.
I play Crysis on Very High because I have a pretty good rig I think. It looks beautiful on High to Very High(playing(playing in DX10 for me). That I can Agree. The island looks wonderful. The jungle surely looks awesome and. It has a challenging AI and good play. Its destruction is very good, from destroying palm tree to destroying an Alien Hunter. You customize your guns with almost any type of attachment. That I love. You can mix and match attachments as you see fit to help you take down your enemy. I do like thats its long. Its alot more longer both modern warfare's(I think I beat MW2 on easy in 5 hours and 7 hours on normal).
However, like all games, Crysis has its flaws. For one, I'm a guy that likes a good storyline And I like one thats its both something I can enjoy but its not too complicated or easy to understand. Maybe just in the middle. I don't know really. It doesn't have storyline that is like something like half like, or halo, or doom(maybe not doom. Maybe AVP. Maybe the old Clancy games). IMO, I think crysis storyline is about a C+. I like a storyline that can draw me into a the game and the character. Some say Master Chief is nothing special. I, myself atleast think theres nothing special about Nomad. Hell, I think Psycho and maybe even Prophet are better. I would love if theres was prequel book on Crysis. I'm interested in not only the back story of the main character his fellow squadmate, but his enemies as well(The KPA and the aliens). Now I believe, that everyone has story. it doesn't matter if your friend or foe. Learning about the side your playing is important. But learning about your enemy, is important as well imo. (There have talks been talks that there is going to be a book base on the forerunners, which if its true; I will pick it up so I learn more about them and the flood).
Yes, I like the island and I do find it to be beautiful. But at the same time, I thought more can be down. I don't know really. Maybe have day and night system. Maybe it has it, I can't remember. But it could have change the game play even more with stealth tactics. Maybe it could have like a bigger town or a small city full of civilians that have to obey the KPA. Maybe the game could have add side objectives more. I remember when I was in VTOL, and there was some kind of objective to check on something. I would have love it you could save yours guys from the KPA who been taking as POW's. Or have you and the marines assault on KPA stronghold. Yea It doesn't work when the VTOL controls are not so good or when You got like 5 or more Alien Scouts attacking you from almost every direction. I almost lost interest in keep playing the game on that mission (And the ending level too thought it was alittle hard). I wish game like Crysis had more remarkable parts too.
I'm not really big on mp. But if I was, then I want to have lots of people playing it. Pc games like TF2, CSS, and maybe even CoD4 have alot of people playing it(and lets not forgot BFBC2). And Crysis 2 is coming to consoles aswell. And its MP going to have competition on the consoles aswell from things like MAG, Halo Reach, BFBC2, and even perhaps Treyarch's "Cold War" CoD.
What I don't like about the game is is system requirements. Mainly the CPU. If you running the game on Vista, you need atleast 3.2GHZ of a CPU. I can Overclock my I7 920 CPU to atleast 3.9GHZ with a third party air cooler. I hope the guys at Crytek, can find away to keep the at the same requirement or lower it. Or like you need a high end GPU. I mean I have to re-buy my xbox 360 aswell as some of the ps3 and xbox 360 games my dad throw away. Actually I don't know how well I can BFBC2 because. Maybe High since I have a 4890.
I don't hate the game. Even before I played Crysis or had a gaming rig(I had once since last August), I was very interested in Crysis and I hate to say this, but It what make got into PC Gaming(Like Halo 3 for the XBOX 360 and MGS4 and Killzone 2 for the PS3). I think this game had a lot of potential I wish the open world was alot more better, but thats what the sequel's for, right? I am excited for Crysis 2, and I hope it has a better storyline,mp, and would love it had co-op. I disagree with the game getting goty like the same I disagree MGS4 and GTAIV getting GOTY. I believe the game is atleast an 8.5.
TheShadowLord07
see i actually agree with you. the story to me was severly lacking. thats what made the gameplay stand out to me so much though. the idea you describe would have been awesome as well.
but the system reqs things is getting ridiculous. it has high reqs to play on max. simply because its pushing more than any other game it deserves it. in reality the system reqs are not high theyre right where they should be and on lower settings the game actually is better optimized than most.
my singlecore system with a 2.4ghzproc and 1.5gb ram and a x1950pro ran it fine on mediumhigh settings at 1024x768. thats a system that wont run asassins creed or mirrors edge. and yet it runs crysis beautifully.
In regard to the go there, kill this comment i elaborated earlier that it is difficult to phrase such a complaint without sounding obtuse; after all, go there and kill them is what you do in practically every shooter ever made. Much like our prior issue however, it's something where i'm confident you know what i'm saying, but rather than address it or even just flat-out disagree you instead attack the words themselves. My point was that the game feels like a repetitive series of actions spread out over a larger scale, much like Assassins Creed was a large game but saw you repeating essentially the same actions over and over again. That is how i felt with Crysis; it became mundane by the end. Disagree by all means, but it's not a terribly unjustified criticism; i can quote a fair number of reviews making the exact same comment. There's not enough variation in what you're doing throughout the game.
Doctor-McNinja
This is why I cannot take what you say seriously. Repetitive and mundane are not words that describe Crysis, regardless of your 'opinion'. My problem is you are criticising Crysis for things it does a lot better than other FPS, so I cannot help think you must hate the majority of FPS out there; because they are far worse off than Crysis.
What is repetitive and mundane about the game? Elaborate on this. The player is given many different options on how you play the game, considerably more than the vast majority of FPS out there which are just corridor shooters. What comes to mind is you have chosen to play the game a certain way and not deviated from it at all, blaming the game for not pushing you to play differently.
I am asking you to go into detail as to why you are making these accusations of Crysis, providing examples of how it was done better in other FPS. I am asking for you to explain to me why you think this game is mundane when linear corridor shooters like COD make up most FPS.
Finally, i did not say Far Cry games were a dime a dozen. I said Crysis is essentially the same thing Crytek were doing last gen (where they even called Crytek back then or where they a Ubi division? I forget....) with Far Cry. Namely; a very pretty island. They've said themselves that it's something they need to and intend to move away from with Crysis 2.
To conclude, i think about 90% of your responses are counter-points to arguments you've imposed on me as opposed to anything i actually said.
Doctor-McNinja
The only similarity between Crysis and Far Cry is the Island, the games played differently. That's like saying Prototype is just another GTA because they both sandbox games that occur in streaming based city environments.
I think a better tactic is to use Crysis as ownage against hermits.
LMAO @ hermits. Two + years later and you still don't have a game better looking than Crysis.
PC maxed out. Will the PC ever get a better looking game than Crysis?
Crysis. LMAO. You still don't have a better looking game.
PC, where's the innovation? Your best looking game you could run on old hardware.
PC now = consoles. No reason to ever change/upgrade hardware. Crysis proves it. So much for the power of upgrading. LMAO.
Try that. At least it might lead to a more interesting thread.
SUD123456
Posts like this make me laugh. They sound so smug about the very mentality that is damaging console gaming so much.
Keep it up man, keep demanding more and judge the value of games solely by graphics, maybe we can get console development costs up to $40 million per game.
[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"]
In regard to the go there, kill this comment i elaborated earlier that it is difficult to phrase such a complaint without sounding obtuse; after all, go there and kill them is what you do in practically every shooter ever made. Much like our prior issue however, it's something where i'm confident you know what i'm saying, but rather than address it or even just flat-out disagree you instead attack the words themselves. My point was that the game feels like a repetitive series of actions spread out over a larger scale, much like Assassins Creed was a large game but saw you repeating essentially the same actions over and over again. That is how i felt with Crysis; it became mundane by the end. Disagree by all means, but it's not a terribly unjustified criticism; i can quote a fair number of reviews making the exact same comment. There's not enough variation in what you're doing throughout the game.
AnnoyedDragon
This is why I cannot take what you say seriously. Repetitive and mundane are not words that describe Crysis, regardless of your 'opinion'. My problem is you are criticising Crysis for things it does a lot better than other FPS, so I cannot help think you must hate the majority of FPS out there; because they are far worse off than Crysis.
What is repetitive and mundane about the game? Elaborate on this. The player is given many different options on how you play the game, considerably more than the vast majority of FPS out there which are just corridor shooters. What comes to mind is you have chosen to play the game a certain way and not deviated from it at all, blaming the game for not pushing you to play differently.
I am asking you to go into detail as to why you are making these accusations of Crysis, providing examples of how it was done better in other FPS. I am asking for you to explain to me why you think this game is mundane when linear corridor shooters like COD make up most FPS.
Finally, i did not say Far Cry games were a dime a dozen. I said Crysis is essentially the same thing Crytek were doing last gen (where they even called Crytek back then or where they a Ubi division? I forget....) with Far Cry. Namely; a very pretty island. They've said themselves that it's something they need to and intend to move away from with Crysis 2.
To conclude, i think about 90% of your responses are counter-points to arguments you've imposed on me as opposed to anything i actually said.
Doctor-McNinja
The only similarity between Crysis and Far Cry is the Island, the games played differently. That's like saying Prototype is just another GTA because they both sandbox games that occur in streaming based city environments.
Why do you want to protect crysis so bad. People don't have to like it . Every time some one mentions how they don't like it you treat them like a fan boy . crysis is not some unquestionable all knowing pc god . I beat the game and i got bored of it be for i was done . Its not a bad game . However it came out in 07 i moved on along time ago. But it seems like many pc gamers cant .
crysis got a 9.5 LMAO
Tony hawks 3 got a 10
Perfect Dark got a 9.5
aload of other games have gotten high scores and in hinesight are not worth the score. Crysis looks techincally awesome but when i played the demo it seemed slow paced and boring. alot of my other friends have said the same thing.
Why do you want to protect crysis so bad. People don't have to like it . Every time some one mentions how they don't like it you treat them like a fan boy . crysis is not some unquestionable all knowing pc god . I beat the game and i got bored of it be for i was done . Its not a bad game . However it came out in 07 i moved on along time ago. But it seems like many pc gamers cant .
dontshackzmii
Reverse question, why do people want to bash Crysis so badly?
I am simply reacting to criticisms I feel are wrong, if they criticised the story for being generic I'd have nothing to argue. But people who say it's repetitive and mundane? What are they on? Crysis encourages all sorts of creativity during play that other games don't offer, it would only be repetitive if the player made it that way by ignoring most options.
Anyone on any platform would criticise someone who is making inaccurate claims about a game on their platform.
[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]
Why do you want to protect crysis so bad. People don't have to like it . Every time some one mentions how they don't like it you treat them like a fan boy . crysis is not some unquestionable all knowing pc god . I beat the game and i got bored of it be for i was done . Its not a bad game . However it came out in 07 i moved on along time ago. But it seems like many pc gamers cant .
AnnoyedDragon
Reverse question, why do people want to bash Crysis so badly?
I am simply reacting to criticisms I feel are wrong, if they criticised the story for being generic I'd have nothing to argue. But people who say it's repetitive and mundane? What are they on? Crysis encourages all sorts of creativity during play that other games don't offer, it would only be repetitive if the player made it that way by ignoring most options.
Anyone on any platform would criticise someone who is making inaccurate claims about a game on their platform.
People bash it cus we never stop hearing about it. Every time some one talks about graphics we get crysis spam . it's gotten to the point where its just spaming . A lot of these "inaccurate claims" are Just peoples personal feelings about the game . I was not a fan of the guns in the game for the most part and i got annoyed by the random spawning koreans as i walked in the jungle . i also think the story was awful . Crysis is ahead of its time . But its not perfect .
there are far better shooters on the pc that dont cause your pc to have a heart attack every time you move
People bash it cus we never stop hearing about it. Every time some one talks about graphics we get crysis spam . it's gotten to the point where its just spaming . A lot of these "inaccurate claims" are Just peoples personal feelings about the game . I was not a fan of the guns in the game for the most part and i got annoyed by the random spawning koreans as i walked in the jungle . i also think the story was awful . Crysis is ahead of its time . But its not perfect .
dontshackzmii
So it was PC gamers who started the arguments of Crysis Vs Haze? Then Uncharted? Then Killzone 2? Then Uncharted 2? Then Heavy Rain? Was this thread started by someone boasting about how great Crysis is to all over games?
Stop making it sound like Crysis fans are the root cause of all Crysis discussion, console gamers have been salivating at the idea of surpassing a high profile PC tech game since it was announced.
I recognise there are people on the PC end who are at fault, I have even criticised a few when they make such threads. However there is a massive effort on the console end to bash the game into oblivion, even after this many years. I put it down to hating the idea that there is proof you cannot just buy a console and be set a generation, regardless of the reason I've seen far too many on the console end go after this game to agree only PC is at fault here.
I played Crysis and its has awesome graphics and thats pretty much the only appeal. The gameplay is the same as any other shooter out there.
I think a better tactic is to use Crysis as ownage against hermits.
LMAO @ hermits. Two + years later and you still don't have a game better looking than Crysis. I could say the same to console games.
PC maxed out. Will the PC ever get a better looking game than Crysis? Oh hello there Stalker and Crysis 2!
Crysis. LMAO. You still don't have a better looking game. I could say the same to console games.
PC, where's the innovation? Your best looking game you could run on old hardware. I won't even dignify this with an answer.
PC now = consoles. No reason to ever change/upgrade hardware. Crysis proves it. So much for the power of upgrading. LMAO. ...You do realise most hardware cannot run Crysis maxed out with 16Q Antialiasing and with 60FPS?
Try that. At least it might lead to a more interesting thread. Nah, it'll lead to a more hilarious thread were your uninformed statements would make you a village idiot so to speak.
SUD123456
Yawn...
It's been said many times before, Hermits here usually only pull the Crysis card when someone says something stupid like "This game is the new Graphics King (PC included)". They don't just go around saying it everywhere for no reason.
Graphics aside, I found Crysis to have one of the best gameplay I've played in an FPS. But hey, that's my opinion, and people are allowed to agree with it or not. Just like how I found the Halo series to not be as great as people made it sound.
I disagree wcompletely with the TC
I was Console only gamer since a few weeks ago when i decided to purchase a new PC. The first Game i've played was Crysis on Ultra High and i was really impressed by the overall experience. It's definetly the most evolved shooter on the Market right now and not because of the Graphics. Play the Game on Delta Mode and you'll know what im talking about.
Before I bought my new computer to play Crysis on ultra high, I finished it on my old on "low" graphics. The game still looked great, but obviously didnt have the best graphics of the time.
Anyway, I found the story to be great, the atmosphere and the gameplay was really enjoyable. So many people here on SW know nothing about Crysis since it was a PC exclusive. The game has the best graphics, true, but this doesnt mean that it suffers from the other aspects such as gameplay etc. The game is overall great and memorable. 99% of the people who bash it havent even played the game.
'Hey, look at this sweet new Vidoc bungie released for Halo Reach'
"Yeah well look at this picture of Crysis, owned!"
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'Man, i was playing some Mass Effect 2 earlier and i really liked the bit where -'
'The bit where it looked nowhere near as good as this Crysis picture!? YEAH, owned! That's on my rig, too!'
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I did it myself at the time, i admit. I posted a picture of Crysis running on my new PC, and boy did it look amazing. I installed some mods to make the textures even sharper, then posted even more pictures of it. But you know why i stopped bragging about it after a while? Because it was boring. Because it was uninspired. Because it was completely forgettable.
It featured the same-old, same-old Crytek gameplay of roaming around a very pretty looking island gunning down brain-dead AI while taking in the beautiful visuals. The multiplayer was absolutely worthless - even the revamped competitive offering in the Warhead expansion. It's a game i put on to impress my friends with the pretty graphics, and even that doesn't really make sense because it's not like i made the game.
In conclusion; if i could only play one game for the rest of my life out of Counter Strike Source, Halo 3, Half Life 2 or Crysis i know damn-well which game i WOULDN'T be picking. It makes no sense to continually use this game to 'own' others when it is essentially a pretty painting. Games are a package, an experiene. Graphics aren't enough on their own.
Doctor-McNinja
IDK what your talking about crysis is one of the best fps ever made.
[QUOTE="IronBass"]I have not played Crisis, so I can't judge how good it is. But it's true that here in SW it's mostly mentioned because of its graphics, which got boring after some time. Kinda like Gears, UC2, etc.ZippySlappy
UC2 is not only mentioned because of it graphics. It's MOSTLY mentioned for them,there is a difference.
What's the difference between "mostly" and "MOSTLY"?
Crysis got boring for me, IMO it felt like Far Cry Instincts with pretty graphics. What was innovative about Crysis? the nano suit? i could run fast, jump high and have super strength in Far Cry Instincts.
I want to know what makes Crysis that much better in gameplay from your standard FPS or better yet from the original Far Cry, running around an island going from objective point to objective point is all there is too it, approaching objectives differently in Crysis involves.............the nano suit? using a rocket launcher instead of a shotgun? no one has explaned why Crysis differs from Far Cry or a stock standard FPS
I approach objectives differently in Battlefield BC2 each time i play it = gameplay to Crysis am confirmed????
Crysis was fun when you were fighting the Koreans. When the aliens came into it turned to s***Iantheone
I felt the same about the aliens until I learned which weapons and ammo plus customized weapon settings are best for killing them. After that, I had no problems taking down even the flying octopus things although the large number of aliens can still overwhelm.
[QUOTE="SUD123456"]
I think a better tactic is to use Crysis as ownage against hermits.
LMAO @ hermits. Two + years later and you still don't have a game better looking than Crysis. I could say the same to console games.
PC maxed out. Will the PC ever get a better looking game than Crysis? Oh hello there Stalker and Crysis 2!
Crysis. LMAO. You still don't have a better looking game. I could say the same to console games.
PC, where's the innovation? Your best looking game you could run on old hardware. I won't even dignify this with an answer.
PC now = consoles. No reason to ever change/upgrade hardware. Crysis proves it. So much for the power of upgrading. LMAO. ...You do realise most hardware cannot run Crysis maxed out with 16Q Antialiasing and with 60FPS?
Try that. At least it might lead to a more interesting thread. Nah, it'll lead to a more hilarious thread were your uninformed statements would make you a village idiot so to speak.
Vesica_Prime
Yawn...
Hey Sherlock, is your sarcasm meter broken?
Crysis was fun when you were fighting the Koreans. When the aliens came into it turned to s***IantheoneAre you kidding? I had an amazing time fighting the Koreans, but after i while it got a little tedious. And then. WOAH BUGGAHSHGSU . That's my reaction when i entered the alien spaceship.
Crysis got boring for me, IMO it felt like Far Cry Instincts with pretty graphics. What was innovative about Crysis? the nano suit? i could run fast, jump high and have super strength in Far Cry Instincts.
I want to know what makes Crysis that much better in gameplay from your standard FPS or better yet from the original Far Cry, running around an island going from objective point to objective point is all there is too it, approaching objectives differently in Crysis involves.............the nano suit? using a rocket launcher instead of a shotgun? no one has explaned why Crysis differs from Far Cry or a stock standard FPS
I approach objectives differently in Battlefield BC2 each time i play it = gameplay to Crysis am confirmed????
dachase
exactly this. Crysis is boring, and not innovative in any way. Not that I need innovation to enjoy a game, but it does need to be NOT boring.
[QUOTE="SUD123456"]
I think a better tactic is to use Crysis as ownage against hermits.
LMAO @ hermits. Two + years later and you still don't have a game better looking than Crysis.
PC maxed out. Will the PC ever get a better looking game than Crysis?
Crysis. LMAO. You still don't have a better looking game.
PC, where's the innovation? Your best looking game you could run on old hardware.
PC now = consoles. No reason to ever change/upgrade hardware. Crysis proves it. So much for the power of upgrading. LMAO.
Try that. At least it might lead to a more interesting thread.
AnnoyedDragon
Posts like this make me laugh. They sound so smug about the very mentality that is damaging console gaming so much.
Keep it up man, keep demanding more and judge the value of games solely by graphics, maybe we can get console development costs up to $40 million per game.
And posts like yours make me howl. Seeing as I don't give a crap about graphics, which you could have easily understood from my post had you been willing to look beyond your own pretensions.
Crysis got boring for me, IMO it felt like Far Cry Instincts with pretty graphics. What was innovative about Crysis? the nano suit? i could run fast, jump high and have super strength in Far Cry Instincts.
I want to know what makes Crysis that much better in gameplay from your standard FPS or better yet from the original Far Cry, running around an island going from objective point to objective point is all there is too it, approaching objectives differently in Crysis involves.............the nano suit? using a rocket launcher instead of a shotgun? no one has explaned why Crysis differs from Far Cry or a stock standard FPS
I approach objectives differently in Battlefield BC2 each time i play it = gameplay to Crysis am confirmed????
dachase
For one thing, the foliage in Crysis worked very well for cover and concealment. The foliage in Far Cry was pure eye candy. The enemy AI in Far Cry saw right through it while hiding them from my view. The most used function of the nanosuit for me is the cloak. It gives me the option to accomplish an objective using stealth. That's something I've never been able to do in Far Cry.
Here, seeking cover in the foliage actually works. In Far Cry, they'd be shooting at me already from this range even though I'm concealed.
Here, the foliage is pure eye candy only. The landscape might as well be barren for all the good the green stuff does.
The foliage and cloak in Crysis allowed me to play cat and mouse with the AI. I can remain hidden and let a patrol pass. Some may not like it. But,I find it exhilarating when I can infiltrate a base, accomplish the objective, and get out without firing a shot. In Far Cry, that's about impossible.
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Not all the similarities to Far Cry is Bad. I loved Far Cry too. The foliage in Crysis obscures enemies just like in Far Cry. There's someone very near and my view of it. Personally, I don't like radars in FPS games. But, that's not a Crysis or Far Cry-only thing.
Pretty much everyone disagrees with you. A game doesn't get a 9.5 just for pretty graphics. I would say that it's one of the most innovative and fun shooters this gen. Revan_911
Yea. Theres all these ppl saying "Look at me, Im a non-generic gamer who doesnt get impressed by graphics". Crysis gameplay is bril
TC, I disagree with you, but at the same time, I would like to see a new game be shoved into the faces of system warriors.
I think I'll start hyping RAGE, Doom 4, and Project Offset now.
The ones who say its boring are the ones that have not played crysis as a game. They admire it graphically play around with its psychx but dont play the story. I clocked Crysis and crysis warhead twice thats how boring it is.
Far cry 2 is boring
Crysis is Epic.
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