Poll and Discussion: Was the 360's one year head start worth anything?

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#1 Awakening124
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In the 360's first year it had three major titles: Gears of War, Oblivion, and Dead Rising (none of which were launch titles and one of them was released right at the end of year one).

Am I missing something, or was the point of releasing the console a year ahead to put out as many quality games so that they'd be way ahead of the PS3 by the time it was released.

If Microsoft had released the 360 around the same time as Sony released the PS3 with Dead Rising, Oblivion, and Gears of war as launch titles, along with the cheaper price, they would have OBLITERATED the competition. Not to mention they would have had an extra to work out the kinks of the system that people have complained about.

The only positive thing I can see about the 360 being released a year earlier is that the public would be familiar with the system by the time the PS3 came out.

Your thoughts?

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#2 Skie7
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I just don't see it as a valid option to have developers develop a game for your console and sit on it for up to a year before the console is released. Launching first allowed the 360 to have the (currently) the best library of games of this generation of consoles. They've also been fine tuning their online element and it is so far ahead of the competition that the competition has to offer free online.
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#3 Bansheesdie
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Yeah, Msoft got their product out and let the people play it and buy it. It also has the advantage with casuals who only look at graphics, of being better looking because of the head-start. A casual would be more interested in Gears of War over Genji just from the graphics alone.
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#4 Vyse_The_Daring
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Many would argue that the 360 currently has the best library, with plenty more great games coming. So in a word: yes.
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#5 CelineDion
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We'll find out, now won't we?

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#6 Imallvol7
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of course it does, do you think the 360 would even be in the console race if it didnt have a head start? it didnt get its great first exclusive till nov 06.  The ps3 has a huge fanbase and the successes for the ps and ps2 to fall on so a PS3 with no games > 360 with no games.
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#7 Gamer556
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It's the sole reason Microsoft is in a position to dethrone Sony. They've had a full year to eat up Sony's 3rd party support, and are pretty much calling all the shots.

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#8 Gamer46
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In some ways it worked because I think it helped them get some games they may not have had a chance to get and get a nice headstart, but I also think they squandered their opportunity to really take the market by storm.  The console is selling well, but I feel it should be doing much better.
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#9 hungrycow
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The 10 mil sales mark speaks for itself. Also im 100% positive that during the time when only the 360 was out, former sheep and cows converted into lemmingism because the wait was too long for them. Go figure.
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#10 MrGrimFandango
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If it was my way it would have been delayed until Nov. 2006. It would have had the best launch and the most sales. It would have been more powerful and full DX10 capable.

Other than that, yea its worth a lot, 10 million worth.

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In the 360's first year it had three major titles: Gears of War, Oblivion, and Dead Rising (none of which were launch titles and one of them was released right at the end of year one).

Am I missing something, or was the point of releasing the console a year ahead to put out as many quality games so that they'd be way ahead of the PS3 by the time it was released.

If Microsoft had released the 360 around the same time as Sony released the PS3 with Dead Rising, Oblivion, and Gears of war as launch titles, along with the cheaper price, they would have OBLITERATED the competition. Not to mention they would have had an extra to work out the kinks of the system that people have complained about.

The only positive thing I can see about the 360 being released a year earlier is that the public would be familiar with the system by the time the PS3 came out.

Your thoughts?

Awakening124
do you think they would have sold 7 million at launch? The way i see it is, 360 had sold over 7 (or 8) million consoles by the time the ps3 launched. That's an alright head start....
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In the 360's first year it had three major titles: Gears of War, Oblivion, and Dead Rising (none of which were launch titles and one of them was released right at the end of year one).

Am I missing something, or was the point of releasing the console a year ahead to put out as many quality games so that they'd be way ahead of the PS3 by the time it was released.

If Microsoft had released the 360 around the same time as Sony released the PS3 with Dead Rising, Oblivion, and Gears of war as launch titles, along with the cheaper price, they would have OBLITERATED the competition. Not to mention they would have had an extra to work out the kinks of the system that people have complained about.

The only positive thing I can see about the 360 being released a year earlier is that the public would be familiar with the system by the time the PS3 came out.

Your thoughts?

Awakening124


So out of the the 30-something AA and AAA titles 360 has you list 3? You fail.
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#13 Awakening124
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I'd argue that none of the systems have a decent library of games at the moment, but then again I don't like playing sports, racing or (most) shooters.

As far as games that are coming, anything that comes out for both the PS3 and the 360 I'll get on the PS3 simply because it's a better machine. For the GameInformer readers out there: Remember how GI would compare the PS2 version to the XBOX version and if they weren't the same, the XBOX version would be better (shorter load times, tighter graphics, etc)? It's gonna be the same situation, only it'll be the Sony product that runs better instead of the Microsoft one. That's not to say one should buy a PS3 over a 360, someone who loves gaming should really have both, but this generation of gaming is shaping to be just like the last one, except with Microsoft on top and Sony just behind it. Why? The company with the best product goes on the biggest ego trip, thinking that their strong console will somehow sell itself. Microsoft did it with the XBOX, and now Sony is doing it with the PS3.

That got a little off track...but it's still a bit relevant.

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#14 Awakening124
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Gamerankings.com has no more weight than any other site where you can rate games. I don't get why people use it as the end-all be-all game rating site.
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#15 redneckdouglas
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Enlarging their fanbase before the competitors come out, yes!

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#16 inter_wog
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Gamerankings.com has no more weight than any other site where you can rate games. I don't get why people use it as the end-all be-all game rating site.Awakening124
isn't that the one where it averages out all the scores that all the sites have given a game?
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#17 DA_B0MB
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completerly yes. regaurdless of the Wii's outstanding sales it is still millions ahead.
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#18 osusfaith
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more then 3 quality titles came out over the year. you need to recount lol
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#19 mwa
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i think the head start definitely helped...it created a fanbase, general awareness, and hype to a certain degree...now it has a better library of games (you could argue that it's unfair to compare PS3's launch library with 360's current library, but that's what people are doing, and maybe that's exactly what MS intended) and 10 million units sold...i'd say it helped
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#20 mismajor99
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A major plus for the 360 is the backing of many PC developers. This only expands their library further and helped get games out of the door like Oblivion and Gears this past year. In the coming year, C&C3 comes to mind along with Bioshock and Mass Effect on the way. Companies like Bioware, Irrational Games, Valve, Epic, Bethesda, and many others were all solely PC developers for the most part, but with the first Xbox, MS started a good relationship with some of them and it has only grew from there, further strengthening their console library. Granted, some of these companies are gearing for the PS3, but it's just isn't as easy for them to produce games on a non-MS based system, Valve is certainly not pleased among others. I still think the PS3 will shine, it's just going to take awhile.
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#21 Awakening124
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I said 'major' not 'quality.' I'm not a fangirl, I made an observation and obviously all observations are subject to change upon hearing new info.
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#22 Darth_Stalin
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It definitely was.....
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#23 bobflash
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In the 360's first year it had three major titles: Gears of War, Oblivion, and Dead Rising (none of which were launch titles and one of them was released right at the end of year one).

Am I missing something, or was the point of releasing the console a year ahead to put out as many quality games so that they'd be way ahead of the PS3 by the time it was released.

If Microsoft had released the 360 around the same time as Sony released the PS3 with Dead Rising, Oblivion, and Gears of war as launch titles, along with the cheaper price, they would have OBLITERATED the competition. Not to mention they would have had an extra to work out the kinks of the system that people have complained about.

The only positive thing I can see about the 360 being released a year earlier is that the public would be familiar with the system by the time the PS3 came out.

Your thoughts?

Awakening124

You answered your own question... and yes it was well worth it.

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#24 Carmilla31
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Yes and no. Yes because atm it has the most diverse and best game library. No because the Wii has already sold 4 million in a fraction of the time.
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#25 blurb1324
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Definitely. If nothing else, the developers at least now have more experience with the system.
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#26 halo2paul
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Yeah, Msoft got their product out and let the people play it and buy it. It also has the advantage with casuals who only look at graphics, of being better looking because of the head-start. A casual would be more interested in Gears of War over Genji just from the graphics alone.Bansheesdie
Agreed.
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In the 360's first year it had three major titles: Gears of War, Oblivion, and Dead Rising (none of which were launch titles and one of them was released right at the end of year one).

Am I missing something, or was the point of releasing the console a year ahead to put out as many quality games so that they'd be way ahead of the PS3 by the time it was released.

If Microsoft had released the 360 around the same time as Sony released the PS3 with Dead Rising, Oblivion, and Gears of war as launch titles, along with the cheaper price, they would have OBLITERATED the competition. Not to mention they would have had an extra to work out the kinks of the system that people have complained about.

The only positive thing I can see about the 360 being released a year earlier is that the public would be familiar with the system by the time the PS3 came out.

Your thoughts?

Awakening124
A system never gets big until a year after release. Comapre PS3's 2007 Lineup to 360's, and you'll see a numerically greater value in the latter.
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#28 avenger_dot
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Of course it was worth it, since it has better graphics than the curretly released PS3 !!!!

So, it would only be bad, if PS3 was a bit better, now that it clearly is not, the head start just KILLS PS3 in gaming library

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#29 fatzombiepigeon
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No. Getting developer attention with ten games selling 1,000,000 units each, gaining a 8-10 million headstart, getting another game that may end up the next Halo for MS(Gears), and getting enough units to combat later released consoles with shortages, were all bad, bad, bad idea. You suck MS.
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#30 Xeonz
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I would say yes, PS3 missed on some games like for example Condemned, even if it wasn't very good, I had an older issue of Game Informer stating the next-gen game 'Condemned' was going to be released for 360/PS3/PC and it had like 360 screens in the magazine. With the delay of the PS3, it was later cancelled. Not to mention a more library of games and in time they had gotten cheaper and more affordable, 'Platinum Hits', and the console having a head start gives it to improve on the game's graphics, so it may always have an advantage in graphics over the PS3.
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#31 HeedleGlavin
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Yes and no. Yes, because the head start has given MS a decent marketshare head start - and developers are used to the hardware, thus pumping out incredible looking titles. No, because the early launch was probably one of the primary reasons that the launch units were so heavily defective - causing some hard feelings among early 360 owners.
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#32 LoG-Sacrament
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well atleast it has more games
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#33 AHUGECAT
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With only 10 million units sold - it was not. Not that many good games, and no established Japanese franchises, no HD DVD, etc. etc.
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#34 Awakening124
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Hopefully we can all agree that, when it comes to games, we prefer quality over quantity (generally, I'm not saying that having only one awesome game would be alright...you know what I mean).
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#35 laughingman42
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The 10 mil sales mark speaks for itself. Also im 100% positive that during the time when only the 360 was out, former sheep and cows converted into lemmingism because the wait was too long for them. Go figure.hungrycow

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