POLL: And the current title of KING OF MILKING goes to... (place your vote)

Is it Nintendo for rehash.... rebranding... reanimating... retitling fanchises.. when does it stop?

Or is it Sony for keeping the money train (ps2) going... ?

Or is it newcomer Microsoft.. for ditching xbox quickly... what BC? Live, Halo?


Let's vote on it.. and discuss.

I'll be honest..... i see no poll. but lets say microsoft, wifi addons, pay for online, hd-dvd add on.

EDIT: poll came up... must have been my pc

I'll be honest..... i see no poll. but lets say microsoft, wifi addons, pay for online, hd-dvd add on.yamcake

I forgot after I submittted it.

Wi-Fi, Bigger Harddrives, Keyboards for your texting over live, pay for online gameing, play and charge kits... 5 or so SKU's with more on the way. HD-DVD add on.

... I wonder who I should vote for?

EA>>>>>>Square Enix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Deep breath) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft >>> Nintendo >>> Sony

EA for releasing the same exact game every year, knowing that it will sell millions. Not just with 1 franchise, but with multiple ones.

Square Enix for releasing a new Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest game daily, knowing that it will automatically sell 300K+ on its first week in Japan.

Microsoft for charging for XBL, and all the insanely expensive add ons.

Nintendo for using Mario to sell games.

Sony doesn't milk that much.

Undoubtedly Microsoft. Charging for wireless (especially that much)? Charging for online play?Charging forrecharging your controllers? Charging for HD movie addon? Hmm...

EA>>>>>>Square Enix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Deep breath) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft >>> Nintendo >>> Sony

EA for releasing the same exact game every year, knowing that it will sell millions. Not just with 1 franchise, but with multiple ones.

Square Enix for releasing a new Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest game daily, knowing that it will automatically sell 300K+ on its first week in Japan.

Microsoft for charging for XBL, and all the insanely expensive add ons.

Nintendo for using Mario to sell games.

Sony doesn't milk that much.

sexy_chimp

each final fantasy game has a different story and plays mildly to completely different than previous iterations.

it's like saying, all shooters are the same with just different guns...

or all platformers are the same game with different items to collect...

Milking? Well lets see. I guess the majority would say Microsoft because of add-ons and subscription fees. But when you think about it even if you don't CHOOSE to buy the wifi adaptor or xbox live gold or even a hard drive, you're still able to play games. Sony on the other hand stuffs their PS3s with these unneeded things for gaming which drives up the cost. So you just gotta weigh the two out. Then you think about how many games each system has. If games adds to the milking then I must vote for Microsoft because they're sure milking me with all these great games I choose to buy for the Xbox 360.

Milking? Well lets see. I guess the majority would say Microsoft because of add-ons and subscription fees. But when you think about it even if you don't CHOOSE to buy the wifi adaptor or xbox live gold or even a hard drive, you're still able to play games. Sony on the other hand stuffs their PS3s with these unneeded things for gaming which drives up the cost. So you just gotta weigh the two out. Then you think about how many games each system has. If games adds to the milking then I must vote for Microsoft because they're sure milking me with all these great games I choose to buy for the Xbox 360.

ReverseCycology

Spoken like a true fanboy.

Having the CHOICE to pay for essential services other companies are providing for free... that's the Microsoft way.

i like how free online, out of the box wireless contollers, out of the box wifi, and a next gen disc format is unneeded.

It has to be MS with Live. $50 a year, still get ads, still have to pay 10 bucks for 3 sad maps, still only get P2P. Not to mention overpriced accessories.

Wii ain't much better, the console is just way overpriced considering the featuers and hardware it has.

Sony surprisingly is on the last place in the milking category, it's the only one with a decent free online and the console itself is pretty much a good all around package despite the high price at the launch.

And that was an unbiased hermit opinion.

I don't believe people actually chose Sony in the poll :lol: From the 3 Sony is the least milking company and Microsoft is the most while Nintendo is 2nd.

Milking? Well lets see. I guess the majority would say Microsoft because of add-ons and subscription fees. But when you think about it even if you don't CHOOSE to buy the wifi adaptor or xbox live gold or even a hard drive, you're still able to play games. Sony on the other hand stuffs their PS3s with these unneeded things for gaming which drives up the cost. So you just gotta weigh the two out. Then you think about how many games each system has. If games adds to the milking then I must vote for Microsoft because they're sure milking me with all these great games I choose to buy for the Xbox 360.

ReverseCycology

hey man . . . your fanboy is showing

see i like having the luxury of knowing that when i get a wireless router i wont have to pay anything but my ISP's internet price to be able to play online

also i enjoy charging my wireless controller straight out of the box. . .

and i very much enjoy watching HD movies and not having to pay extra

Microsoft are the biggest milkers of all and thats just the truth

i would like to also point out that i am not a fanboy and play 360 alot at my cousins place i have nothing against the console just the company that manufactures it. . .

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

EA>>>>>>Square Enix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Deep breath) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft >>> Nintendo >>> Sony

EA for releasing the same exact game every year, knowing that it will sell millions. Not just with 1 franchise, but with multiple ones.

Square Enix for releasing a new Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest game daily, knowing that it will automatically sell 300K+ on its first week in Japan.

Microsoft for charging for XBL, and all the insanely expensive add ons.

Nintendo for using Mario to sell games.

Sony doesn't milk that much.

mistervengeance

each final fantasy game has a different story and plays mildly to completely different than previous iterations.

it's like saying, all shooters are the same with just different guns...

or all platformers are the same game with different items to collect...

yeah...... but if all the games are different... why are they called final fantasy?

the answer? TO MILK THE FANS!!!!!!!

Nintendo with Mario.

I dont really see anything milked in Sony, aside from maybe, just maybe Metal Gear Solid with the books and a supposed movie.

Microsoft its definatly Halo.

Microsoft or Nintendo is the winner.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

EA>>>>>>Square Enix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Deep breath) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft >>> Nintendo >>> Sony

EA for releasing the same exact game every year, knowing that it will sell millions. Not just with 1 franchise, but with multiple ones.

Square Enix for releasing a new Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest game daily, knowing that it will automatically sell 300K+ on its first week in Japan.

Microsoft for charging for XBL, and all the insanely expensive add ons.

Nintendo for using Mario to sell games.

Sony doesn't milk that much.

mistervengeance

each final fantasy game has a different story and plays mildly to completely different than previous iterations.

it's like saying, all shooters are the same with just different guns...

or all platformers are the same game with different items to collect...

If every Final Fantasy game is so different why not give them different names?

To milk the franchise, that's why. Without Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest in their name Square's games wouldn't sell near as good.

Microsoft, by far.

BY FAR.

First of all, they charge you $140 for repairs after thefirst year if they aren't RROD, and even if they've changed that recently(I heard they did), they still tried to charge that, which was insane.

They charge for online, and it's not even worth it.

They charged for their movie addon, which sucked.

They charge for their Wifi adapter and that'll cost you at least 40.

I love the games, but the system sucks.

If every Final Fantasy game is so different why not give them different names?

To milk the franchise, that's why. Without Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest in their name Square's games wouldn't sell near as good.

sexy_chimp

Name recognition is a strong seller, I would hardly call their main iterations (very different as stated before) that take around 3 yrs to develop milking. I would agree on re-releasing being a total milking of the franchise name. And if we're going to go off name recognition than few companies milk a name like Nintendo.

There no proof that these games wouldn't sell as good without the name if the same game were released without said name(s). You can assume that would be the case, but it's nothing more than a "well if this was true... than this would happen".

each final fantasy game has a different story and plays mildly to completely different than previous iterations.

it's like saying, all shooters are the same with just different guns...

or all platformers are the same game with different items to collect...

mistervengeance

LOL no. I'm sorry but no. There are huge differences between a game such as Grandia and Final Fantasy. But to say that Final Fantasy's are more different from eachother then say Half Life 2 from a Halo is a laughable joke indeed.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Milking? Well lets see. I guess the majority would say Microsoft because of add-ons and subscription fees. But when you think about it even if you don't CHOOSE to buy the wifi adaptor or xbox live gold or even a hard drive, you're still able to play games. Sony on the other hand stuffs their PS3s with these unneeded things for gaming which drives up the cost. So you just gotta weigh the two out. Then you think about how many games each system has. If games adds to the milking then I must vote for Microsoft because they're sure milking me with all these great games I choose to buy for the Xbox 360.

MisterEngilsh

Spoken like a true fanboy.

Having the CHOICE to pay for essential services other companies are providing for free... that's the Microsoft way.

i like how free online, out of the box wireless contollers, out of the box wifi, and a next gen disc format is unneeded.

Wi-Fi, Bigger Harddrives, Keyboards for your texting over live, pay for online gameing, play and charge kits... 5 or so SKU's with more on the way. HD-DVD add on.

... I wonder who I should vote for?

GundamGuy0

those r the reasons why i voted m$!

Charging people for extra features that they may not use isn't milking. It gives people the option, and keeps the cost of the console down.

On the other side, releasing a controller that has force feedback (something that's been around for years now)over year after the console was launched, when it should have been there to start with; now THAT'S milking.

Microsoft easily. I was given a Core 360 (remember them?) last Christmas, and had to buy a whole heap of stuff to actually have the full functionality of the ole' 360. Then there's Live, paid content and everything else... Realeasing a 20GB hard drive and then a 120GB hard drive the next year for a ridiculous price.

I think Sony should get a nod for the Dualshock 3 though. Tell everyone there won't be any rumble, and then release a rumble controller. All the early adopters got a lil bit screwed with that one.

Charging people for extra features that they may not use isn't milking. It gives people the option, and keeps the cost of the console down.

On the other side, releasing a controller that has force feedback (something that's been around for years now)over year after the console was launched, when it should have been there to start with; now THAT'S milking.

MortalDecay

And how is force feedback an essencial feature?

Is it Nintendo for rehash.... rebranding... reanimating... retitling fanchises.. when does it stop?

Or is it Sony for keeping the money train (ps2) going... ?

Or is it newcomer Microsoft.. for ditching xbox quickly... what BC? Live, Halo?


Let's vote on it.. and discuss.

gamenux

If you're only going on console manufacturers....it's Nintendo. But in reality, it's Square-Enix.

lol my cousin (15 years old) bought an xbox360. I found out a week later after he bought it. I have a PS3 so I asked why he didn't buy that so we could do co-op or multiplayer. He said when looking at the game selection he was exactly neutral with games, and the thing that pushed him to the 360 was price. "I save $50 with 360, and I can put that towards a game!"

So I was trying ot Halo 3 on his 360 when I realized we were playing only singleplayer, so I asked him did you get live yet? He said no, the 360 won't connect to his wifi. I looked at the back and lol he had no wifi addon. I told him it costs another $100. I thought it was funny he didn't know that (his last system was a ps1) so I asked how he felt about live's cost. He said "wtf the best buy guy said getting a live account is free!" I told him that's silver you don't have multi on that.

360= $350+$50peryear live+$100 wifi= $500-700

Him:

lol my cousin (15 years old) bought an xbox360. I found out a week later after he bought it. I have a PS3 so I asked why he didn't buy that so we could do co-op or multiplayer. He said when looking at the game selection he was exactly neutral with games, and the thing that pushed him to the 360 was price. "I save $50 with 360, and I can put that towards a game!"

So I was trying ot Halo 3 on his 360 when I realized we were playing only singleplayer, so I asked him did you get live yet? He said no, the 360 won't connect to his wifi. I looked at the back and lol he had no wifi addon. I told him it costs another $100. I thought it was funny he didn't know that (his last system was a ps1) so I asked how he felt about live's cost. He said "wtf the best buy guy said getting a live account is free!" I told him that's silver you don't have multi on that.

360= $350+$50peryear live+$100 wifi= $500-700

darkIink

Yeah....say for example, to get CoD4 up and running on a 360 costs a lot more than it does on a PS3.

I have never understood how $$$ in any way comes into SW.

If someone chooses to spend any amount of money that they earned on making their gaming experence better who am I to judge?

I thought in SW all other concerns except the game quality were secondary.

Am I wrong on this?

IM a lem and I have to say MS. I bought the 360 thinking I would only pay for a relatively cheap console (at the time) and enjoy a great list of games. THis was true but I knew nothing of HD-DVD add-ons, no wireless adapter (though I dont really need one) and theprice of live.

good console, but MS knows how to milk their customers.

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

each final fantasy game has a different story and plays mildly to completely different than previous iterations.

it's like saying, all shooters are the same with just different guns...

or all platformers are the same game with different items to collect...

Blackbond

LOL no. I'm sorry but no. There are huge differences between a game such as Grandia and Final Fantasy. But to say that Final Fantasy's are more different from eachother then say Half Life 2 from a Halo is a laughable joke indeed.

i didn't say that...

i meant, as i said, each numbered(maybe that's what i didn't get across) final fantasy game has a new and different story, and plays midly different from older iterations..

that is not milking.. they are just making rpgs

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

EA>>>>>>Square Enix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Deep breath) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft >>> Nintendo >>> Sony

EA for releasing the same exact game every year, knowing that it will sell millions. Not just with 1 franchise, but with multiple ones.

Square Enix for releasing a new Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest game daily, knowing that it will automatically sell 300K+ on its first week in Japan.

Microsoft for charging for XBL, and all the insanely expensive add ons.

Nintendo for using Mario to sell games.

Sony doesn't milk that much.

sexy_chimp

each final fantasy game has a different story and plays mildly to completely different than previous iterations.

it's like saying, all shooters are the same with just different guns...

or all platformers are the same game with different items to collect...

If every Final Fantasy game is so different why not give them different names?

To milk the franchise, that's why. Without Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest in their name Square's games wouldn't sell near as good.

i agree square enix is milking with all it's spin off's, remakes, etc.

but the main final fantasy series is not milking in any way... what's wrong with calling the games final fantasy.. if they were all called something different, no one would be complaining about milking..