Poll: At What point Did Gamespot Become A Joke?

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#1 Boogie_J
Member since 2007 • 1469 Posts

the forums have always been relevant (I guess), but gamespot as a site became a joke to me after the condemned 2 review. That was disgusting, especially since it was post-gerstmann

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#2 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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It does seem that the site overall just doesn't have that same weight to it after the whole K&L scandal. SW, however has been more of the same.

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#3 Skittles_McGee
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Uh, never. They've always done what every reviewer on earth does and expressed their opinions. That hasn't changed, why would my perspective on them change?
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#4 TheDogout
Member since 2010 • 807 Posts

the forums have always been relevant (I guess), but gamespot as a site became a joke to me after the condemned 2 review. That was disgusting, especially since it was post-gerstmann

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#5 BPoole96
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I don't think they are a joke. I mean if I did, I simply wouldn't come here. I find their reviews to be very informative and fair.

It's rare that I play a game and then see the score they gave and say "How the **** did it get a ___?"

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#6 TheDogout
Member since 2010 • 807 Posts

1. Gta iv and MGS4 both deserved those 10's

2. Gamespot chose demons soul's because they are the medium of gaming sites.

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#7 Phoenix534
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In my opinion, when Jeff left. I come here for the forums. I go to GiantBomb for reviews, previews, and when I need a good laugh(Rogue Warrior Quick Look was hilarious!)

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#8 windsquid9000
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Scandal? What scandal?

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#9 Phoenix534
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Scandal? What scandal?

windsquid9000

Yeah, wasn't really what I'd call a scandal. More like, the dumbest move any site could make.

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#10 mitu123
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MGS4 and GTA4 got 10s, you mean to tell me games with technical problems(some serious) get AAAA?

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#11 bigboss5ak
Member since 2007 • 2962 Posts
wow i forget gs gave mgs4 a 10, i feel snake eater was more deserving of that score
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#12 CajunShooter
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In my opinion it went all down hill as soon as Rich Gallup left. He truly held this website together

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#13 PublicNuisance
Member since 2009 • 4582 Posts

The Gertsmann scandal did it for me. They haven't recovered in my opinion.

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#14 clubsammich91
Member since 2009 • 2229 Posts
Around late 2007 for some reason.
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#15 SpiritOfFire117
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Joke or not, I just come here for the forums.
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#16 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Scandal? What scandal?

Yeah, wasn't really what I'd call a scandal. More like, the dumbest move any site could make.

Dumb move? What Dumb move? Can someone please tell me what's going on?
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#17 Assassin_87
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I don't see how giving out two 10's would make Gamespot irrelevant. I don't necessarily agree with the scores, but do you think the reviewers here on Gamespot really care about ANYTHING other than what they think of the game? They can't review video games based on the perceptions of others, because they can't read minds. Sorry guys. :?

But really, the Gerstmann thing was crap. Other than that I'd say Gamespot is still relevant in my mind. At least, more so than IGN.

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#18 shakmaster13
Member since 2007 • 7138 Posts

Ever since they changed the scoring system and kasavin and gerstmann left. KVO is the only true reviewer that reviews PC games now :(

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#19 dragonfly110
Member since 2008 • 27955 Posts

gamespot has never b een a joke to me, however I must admit that after jeff gerstmann left I went to giantbomb for my reviews, and actually made an account here and use only the forums here now.

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#20 Shoaka
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I don't neccesarily disagree with Demon's Souls being the GOTY, but for it to be called a better role-playing-game than Dragon Age Origins, is pathetic. However the rest of Gamespot is pretty solid, its not silly though I may have more respect for IGN than Gamespot after their 2009 rpg flounder.

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#21 coltgames
Member since 2009 • 2120 Posts

the only thing i think is a jk on gamespot is systemwars its just like n4g i was suprised when i join this site that there was even a place like this on this site

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#22 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Scandal? What scandal?

windsquid9000

Yeah, wasn't really what I'd call a scandal. More like, the dumbest move any site could make.

Dumb move? What Dumb move? Can someone please tell me what's going on?

Jeff Gertsmann, the best thing to ever happen to this site in the history of forever, got fired. Most people say it has to do with the Kane & Lynch reviews, but both parties have said that it was a separate dispute. In short, GS fired the best employee ever.

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#23 Parasomniac
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The Gerstmann deal was pretty bad. He gave a bad game a bad score, big deal. No need to fire him over it.
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#24 nmaharg
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IMO when they gave empire total war an 8.5.
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#25 Cerberus_Legion
Member since 2007 • 1233 Posts

Joke or not, I just come here for the forums.SpiritOfFire117

Pretty much this.

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#26 EliteKitteh
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The forum became a joke as soon as people starting calling each other by barnyard animal names.

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#27 Assassin_87
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I don't neccesarily disagree with Demon's Souls being the GOTY, but for it to be called a better role-playing-game than Dragon Age Origins, is pathetic. However the rest of Gamespot is pretty solid, its not silly though I may have more respect for IGN than Gamespot after their 2009 rpg flounder.

Shoaka

How is it pathetic? I'm not defending one or the other, I'm just wondering about your reasoning.

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#28 salxis
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Yes, a person's/site's opinion could be wrong :o
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#29 Assassin_87
Member since 2004 • 2349 Posts

The forum became a joke as soon as people starting calling each other by barnyard animal names.

EliteKitteh

So...it's pretty much always been a joke is what you're saying.

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#30 Shoaka
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[QUOTE="Shoaka"]

I don't neccesarily disagree with Demon's Souls being the GOTY, but for it to be called a better role-playing-game than Dragon Age Origins, is pathetic. However the rest of Gamespot is pretty solid, its not silly though I may have more respect for IGN than Gamespot after their 2009 rpg flounder.

Assassin_87

How is it pathetic? I'm not defending one or the other, I'm just wondering about your reasoning.

Alright first of all have you played both? If you have do you think the role playing depth of Demon Souls was even half of Dragon Age Origins? In other words Demon Souls is closer to hack n slash than Dragon Age Origins is to the the embodiment of a perfect role playing game.

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#31 SilverChimera
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When they gave Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy IX 8.5's :P But seriously, the reasoning behind Metal Gear Solid's 8.5 was just silly.
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#32 Assassin_87
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[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

[QUOTE="Shoaka"]

I don't neccesarily disagree with Demon's Souls being the GOTY, but for it to be called a better role-playing-game than Dragon Age Origins, is pathetic. However the rest of Gamespot is pretty solid, its not silly though I may have more respect for IGN than Gamespot after their 2009 rpg flounder.

Shoaka

How is it pathetic? I'm not defending one or the other, I'm just wondering about your reasoning.

Alright first of all have you played both? If you have do you think the role playing depth of Demon Souls was even half of Dragon Age Origins? In other words Demon Souls is closer to hack n slash than Dragon Age Origins is to the the embodiment of a perfect role playing game.

I agree with you on that. I don't think naming Demon's Souls a better RPG over DA:O is pathetic though. It just differs from your opinion.

btw, yes I have played Dragon Age, and it's one of my favorite RPGs of all time.

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#33 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

[QUOTE="Shoaka"]

I don't neccesarily disagree with Demon's Souls being the GOTY, but for it to be called a better role-playing-game than Dragon Age Origins, is pathetic. However the rest of Gamespot is pretty solid, its not silly though I may have more respect for IGN than Gamespot after their 2009 rpg flounder.

Shoaka

How is it pathetic? I'm not defending one or the other, I'm just wondering about your reasoning.

Alright first of all have you played both? If you have do you think the role playing depth of Demon Souls was even half of Dragon Age Origins? In other words Demon Souls is closer to hack n slash than Dragon Age Origins is to the the embodiment of a perfect role playing game.

But they give the award to the game that they most liked, not the game that held most to genre conventions. I see literally nothing wrong with that.
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#34 peaceoutmedusa
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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Yeah, wasn't really what I'd call a scandal. More like, the dumbest move any site could make.

Phoenix534

Dumb move? What Dumb move? Can someone please tell me what's going on?

Jeff Gertsmann, the best thing to ever happen to this site in the history of forever, got fired. Most people say it has to do with the Kane & Lynch reviews, but both parties have said that it was a separate dispute. In short, GS fired the best employee ever.

Exactly. I never used to come here half as many times as other people came here back then, and even I knew that. GS really messed up big time when they did that. Didnt other editors leave though because of what they did to Jeff? So it mustve been something, it mightve very well been that Kane & Lynch thing. Personally, I dont know how you can 100% know that reviews are ok on this site if they would do something like that to their best employee. And for gamespot to act like it never hapen is just silly.

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#35 ycole11
Member since 2007 • 645 Posts

I dont think gamespot is a joke but it has changed a lot over the years.

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#36 SilverChimera
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But they give the award to the game that they most liked, not the game that held most to genre conventions. I see literally nothing wrong with that.Skittles_McGee

For some reason I read that as "But they give the award to the game that they most liked, not the game that had the most generic conversations"

Haha Yea, I'm being serious. But that was just when I took a quick glance at it.

Luckily it makes sense either way :P

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#37 batman_is_aweso
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when people started questioning its credibility

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#38 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]But they give the award to the game that they most liked, not the game that held most to genre conventions. I see literally nothing wrong with that.SilverChimera

For some reason I read that as "But they give the award to the game that they most liked, not the game that had the most generic conversations"

Haha Yea, I'm being serious. But that was just when I took a quick glance at it.

Luckily it makes sense either way :P

Hey now, I beg to differ. Very few conversations with Morrigan were generic :P ...you'd be right if we were talking about Allistair though.
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#39 Valiant_Rebel
Member since 2009 • 4197 Posts

I probably arrived at GS pretty late. I'm not aware of any scandals that may have occured on here.

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#40 Renzokucant
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It became a joke when they gave GTAIV a perfect 10
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#41 WithoutGraceXII
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Lol, if you really feel that gamespot has lost its edge, that's valid opinion but at least give some decent points. GTA and MGS were reviewed high everywhere, condemned VIDEO REVIEW was an intentional joke, the written review is standard, they explained their rational for giving Demon's Souls GOTY, doesn't mean you need to agree with it. And Jeff Gerstmann...I really don't see how that would effect the overal seriousness of the journalism.
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#42 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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In my opinion it went all down hill as soon as Rich Gallup left. He truly held this website together

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100% agreed, that man is a master of his craft.
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#43 too_much_eslim
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When Halo 3 got a 9.5
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#44 Metalscarz
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the forums have always been relevant (I guess), but gamespot as a site became a joke to me after the condemned 2 review. That was disgusting, especially since it was post-gerstmann

Boogie_J

The vast majority of posters on this whole site are ignorant and obnoxious. Look at any comments on any article. The users are a far bigger "joke" then the staff/articles etc. Same for most big internet sites. The ignorant are usually the loudest, and rudest.

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#45 Pixel-Pirate
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I never took it seriously because I never take reviews seriously. It's on the same level as taking a fanboys opinion seriously. I prefer to form my own.

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#46 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]But they give the award to the game that they most liked, not the game that held most to genre conventions. I see literally nothing wrong with that.Skittles_McGee

For some reason I read that as "But they give the award to the game that they most liked, not the game that had the most generic conversations"

Haha Yea, I'm being serious. But that was just when I took a quick glance at it.

Luckily it makes sense either way :P

Hey now, I beg to differ. Very few conversations with Morrigan were generic :P ...you'd be right if we were talking about Allistair though.

LOL. I love watching Allistair and Morrigan argue :P But back to Demons Souls vs Dragon Age: I liked Demon's Souls more because of the combat and atmosphere. Dragon Age is obviously better for story and characters.
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#47 InfinityMugen
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The Gerstmann scandal was def an eye opener. From then on I relied mostly on my own impressions.

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#48 Bigboi500
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MGS4 and GTA4 got 10s, you mean to tell me games with technical problems(some serious) get AAAA?

mitu123

This. I don't know about MGS4 but GTA4 getting a 10 is a total JOKE. I'm a GTA fan but no way in hell does it deserve the score it got here.

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#49 Boogie_J
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I never took it seriously because I never take reviews seriously. It's on the same level as taking a fanboys opinion seriously. I prefer to form my own.

Pixel-Pirate

you're so anti-establishment

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#50 deathtarget04
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In my opinion, when Jeff left. I come here for the forums. I go to GiantBomb for reviews, previews, and when I need a good laugh(Rogue Warrior Quick Look was hilarious!)

Phoenix534

OT: Dude i love your sig about Crysis :lol: Totally made my evening.

Ontopic: Well GS never was a joke, never will. Though i really disagree with the 10 for GTA IV.