Poll of PS3 users says 75% of PS3 users use PS3 as primary movie viewing machine

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=117

Blu-Ray is a valid reason for buying the PS3. Many people are buying it for Blu-Ray playback exclusively.

It's not just Blu-ray which makes it a primary movie viewing machine, it up-scales old DVDs to 1080p as well. It also supports Dolby TrueHD audio and 7.1 surround sound. The poll results are understandable.

sounds about right. not many games to plaay, that for sure.Areola54

Well, many people who bought the PS3 have no interest in games at all. They bought it because at the time, it was not only the cheapest, but also the most technologically advanced and superior Blu-Ray player available.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6463_7-6509000-1.html?tag=pm

if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesadriancostin83

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"]if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesShion512

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

why would they do that?:P

[QUOTE="Shion512"]

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"]if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesadriancostin83

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

why would they do that?:P

Because PS3 is the cheapest (well, 2nd cheapest now...), most advanced and best Blu-Ray player available today. It will be cheapest again if the PS3 100 dollar price drop happens next week.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6463_7-6509000-1.html?tag=pm

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="Shion512"]

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"]if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesShion512

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

why would they do that?:P

Because PS3 is the cheapest (well, 2nd cheapest now...), most advanced and best Blu-Ray player available today. It will be cheapest again if the PS3 100 dollar price drop happens next week.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6463_7-6509000-1.html?tag=pm

wouldnt make sense for them to drop the price next week. im guessing you are assuming that cause of e3. it would make more sense to do it during the holiday season since that is the time sales goes up and plus the "heavy hitter" games come out.

I wouldn't buy a PS3 which costs 600$(or less with the possible price drop) just to watch movies, but that's me.

guys, just get a used DVD player;)

I wouldn't buy a PS3 which costs 600$(or less with the possible price drop) just to watch movies, but that's me.

guys, just get a used DVD player;)

adriancostin83

Well, if you are going to use a DVD player, you should buy a Denon or an Oppo... which would cost you $300-400 anyways. You might as well spend a little more for Blu-Ray. :D

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="Shion512"]

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"]if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesShion512

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

why would they do that?:P

Because PS3 is the cheapest (well, 2nd cheapest now...), most advanced and best Blu-Ray player available today. It will be cheapest again if the PS3 100 dollar price drop happens next week.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6463_7-6509000-1.html?tag=pm

The funny thing is that it is the most advanced Blu-ray player, and still can't do all of the interactive features that HD DVD can, and their standalone players start at $299:lol:

I wouldn't buy a PS3 which costs 600$(or less with the possible price drop) just to watch movies, but that's me.

guys, just get a used DVD player;)

adriancostin83

i want to see true next generation technology. Not another disk i want an entirely new format all together.

[QUOTE="Shion512"][QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="Shion512"]

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"]if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesBadAndy642

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

why would they do that?:P

Because PS3 is the cheapest (well, 2nd cheapest now...), most advanced and best Blu-Ray player available today. It will be cheapest again if the PS3 100 dollar price drop happens next week.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6463_7-6509000-1.html?tag=pm

The funny thing is that it is the most advanced Blu-ray player, and still can't do all of the interactive features that HD DVD can, and their standalone players start at $299:lol:

Eh? PS3 fully supports BD Java.

EG. Dragon's Lair.

the estimate on ps3 sold is 3 million world wide?

so 2.25 million bought it for blu-ray while 750,000 bought it for the purpose to buy games.

[QUOTE="Shion512"][QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="Shion512"]

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"]if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesBadAndy642

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

why would they do that?:P

Because PS3 is the cheapest (well, 2nd cheapest now...), most advanced and best Blu-Ray player available today. It will be cheapest again if the PS3 100 dollar price drop happens next week.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6463_7-6509000-1.html?tag=pm

The funny thing is that it is the most advanced Blu-ray player, and still can't do all of the interactive features that HD DVD can, and their standalone players start at $299:lol:

What interactive features?

It also has a hard-drive, can stream from your home network, and upscale extremely well - from a standalone media buff's point of you, that is probably going to make it worth the 600 (or maybe 500).

Well, here's my PS3 collection. Note the number of Movie:Game ratio. :D

http://img103.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2007/07/08/imgp0721-f3vmf6sb.jpg

[QUOTE="BadAndy642"][QUOTE="Shion512"][QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="Shion512"]

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"]if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesShion512

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

why would they do that?:P

Because PS3 is the cheapest (well, 2nd cheapest now...), most advanced and best Blu-Ray player available today. It will be cheapest again if the PS3 100 dollar price drop happens next week.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6463_7-6509000-1.html?tag=pm

The funny thing is that it is the most advanced Blu-ray player, and still can't do all of the interactive features that HD DVD can, and their standalone players start at $299:lol:

Eh? PS3 fully supports BD Java.

EG. Dragon's Lair.

The PS3 recently got upgraded to BD profile 1.1, and all players made after 10/31/07 have to be. 1.1 allows BD-Java, but many first-genBD standalone players that are 1.0 cannot be ugraded to 1.1.

Also BD-Live is profile 2.0 and is not expected untilsometime in 2008. Even the PS3 is not 2.0, so no Blu-ray movies have online content and features, unlike HD DVD who do and will exclusive features for 300 that comes to both formats at the end of the month. Link

Also Oppo players that upscale better than the PS3 start between $149 (for 720p/1080i) and $229 (1080p), and the cheapest BD player is Sony's BDP-300 which has an MSRP of $499

the estimate on ps3 sold is 3 million world wide?

so 2.25 million bought it for blu-ray while 750,000 bought it for the purpose to buy games.

istreakforfood

Incorrect - the poll asks if people use it as their primary movie viewing machine. Meaning - me for example - I used to use a crappy DVD player, then I got a PS3, not I use my PS3 for all my movie watching. But I got the PS3 cause I am a gamer. Still, it is my PRIMARY movie viewing machine.

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

the estimate on ps3 sold is 3 million world wide?

so 2.25 million bought it for blu-ray while 750,000 bought it for the purpose to buy games.

Kinitari

Incorrect - the poll asks if people use it as their primary movie viewing machine. Meaning - me for example - I used to use a crappy DVD player, then I got a PS3, not I use my PS3 for all my movie watching. But I got the PS3 cause I am a gamer. Still, it is my PRIMARY movie viewing machine.

True, but they are trying to use these numbers for propaganda of Blu-ray dominance.

In North America, there are 1.5m PS3's and 100k standalone players which equals 1.6m BD players. The have sold 1.5m movies.

HD DVD has 155k standalone players and 150k 360 add-ons. 305k total HD DVD players and have sold 1.2m movies.

BD's dominance is not that great considering these numbers

[QUOTE="Kinitari"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

the estimate on ps3 sold is 3 million world wide?

so 2.25 million bought it for blu-ray while 750,000 bought it for the purpose to buy games.

BadAndy642

Incorrect - the poll asks if people use it as their primary movie viewing machine. Meaning - me for example - I used to use a crappy DVD player, then I got a PS3, not I use my PS3 for all my movie watching. But I got the PS3 cause I am a gamer. Still, it is my PRIMARY movie viewing machine.

True, but they are trying to use these numbers for propaganda of Blu-ray dominance.

In North America, there are 1.5m PS3's and 100k standalone players which equals 1.6m BD players. The have sold 1.5m movies.

HD DVD has 155k standalone players and 150k 360 add-ons. 305k total HD DVD players and have sold 1.2m movies.

BD's dominance is not that great considering these numbers

Good points - not doubting your numbers or anything but, could I get a link to a place that tracks that sort of thing? I've kinda been looking.

lol, I wonder what's going to happen to he PS3's third party support because of these numbers. Seriously, the sales are bad enough, and now this!hamstergeddon

[QUOTE="BadAndy642"][QUOTE="Kinitari"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

the estimate on ps3 sold is 3 million world wide?

so 2.25 million bought it for blu-ray while 750,000 bought it for the purpose to buy games.

Kinitari

Incorrect - the poll asks if people use it as their primary movie viewing machine. Meaning - me for example - I used to use a crappy DVD player, then I got a PS3, not I use my PS3 for all my movie watching. But I got the PS3 cause I am a gamer. Still, it is my PRIMARY movie viewing machine.

True, but they are trying to use these numbers for propaganda of Blu-ray dominance.

In North America, there are 1.5m PS3's and 100k standalone players which equals 1.6m BD players. The have sold 1.5m movies.

HD DVD has 155k standalone players and 150k 360 add-ons. 305k total HD DVD players and have sold 1.2m movies.

BD's dominance is not that great considering these numbers

Good points - not doubting your numbers or anything but, could I get a link to a place that tracks that sort of thing? I've kinda been looking.

I use highdefdigest

[QUOTE="Shion512"][QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="Shion512"]

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"]if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesistreakforfood

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

why would they do that?:P

Because PS3 is the cheapest (well, 2nd cheapest now...), most advanced and best Blu-Ray player available today. It will be cheapest again if the PS3 100 dollar price drop happens next week.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6463_7-6509000-1.html?tag=pm

wouldnt make sense for them to drop the price next week. im guessing you are assuming that cause of e3. it would make more sense to do it during the holiday season since that is the time sales goes up and plus the "heavy hitter" games come out.

the big 3 always do thier price drops at e3...

[QUOTE="adriancostin83"]if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesShion512

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

Interesting. I guess the fact that it can also "double" as a game machine is a bonus.... :shock:

See the problem with that poll is it does not match the actual sales numbers of BLU-RAY titles. There have only been 1.5 million BLU-RAY movies sold since BLU-RAY was launched. If there are 3.5 million PS3's on the market plus a couple of hundred thousand stand alone BLU-RAY players then that means not many PS3 owners have actually bought any BLU-RAY movies for their PS3swanlee

I was about to post something similar, Blu-ray software sales are lackluster given the amount of hardware on the market. Where as if you look at HD-DVD, there aren't as many on the market, but there is a better ratio of software being sold.

This was just last month...

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-players-outselling-blu-ray-alternatives-at-the-moment/

Anyone who says either is clearly winning is pathetically ignorant...this war is not even close to be decided...

[QUOTE="BadAndy642"][QUOTE="Kinitari"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

the estimate on ps3 sold is 3 million world wide?

so 2.25 million bought it for blu-ray while 750,000 bought it for the purpose to buy games.

Kinitari

Incorrect - the poll asks if people use it as their primary movie viewing machine. Meaning - me for example - I used to use a crappy DVD player, then I got a PS3, not I use my PS3 for all my movie watching. But I got the PS3 cause I am a gamer. Still, it is my PRIMARY movie viewing machine.

True, but they are trying to use these numbers for propaganda of Blu-ray dominance.

In North America, there are 1.5m PS3's and 100k standalone players which equals 1.6m BD players. The have sold 1.5m movies.

HD DVD has 155k standalone players and 150k 360 add-ons. 305k total HD DVD players and have sold 1.2m movies.

BD's dominance is not that great considering these numbers

Good points - not doubting your numbers or anything but, could I get a link to a place that tracks that sort of thing? I've kinda been looking.

There honestly is not a site that tracks in down to that detail, but let me show you how to do it. First you get the Neilsen/VideoScan numbers every week. Luckily some puts them up everyweek at the AVSforum: link

As you can see since the formats inception that Blu-ray has sold 59 out of every 100 Hihgdefdiscs, HD DVD has 41.

We estimate that the PS3 has sold around 1.5m PS3's in NA. Even some cows say this.

Now we know that HD DVD has at least a 60% market-share in the standalone department link

150,000 divided by .6 is 250,000, so 40% of that is 100,000 which would be Blu-ray standalones

Which brings us back to 150+k standalone HD DVD players plus 150k Xbox add-ons= 300+k players. Toshiba has said that they have a 4:1 attach rate. Meaning that 4 movies for every HD DVD player. 300k times 4 is 1.2 million.

Now take 1.2 million divide it by .41 and that gives you 2.93 million then times that by .59 and that gives you 1.7 million (I admit that that means my intial numbers were a little off)

It has been rumored that BD's attach rate has been between a little less or a little more than 1:1

So, with 1.6 million Blu-ray players on the market and 1.7 million discs sold would be right on par, as well as the 1.2 million discs for HD DVD and the 300k(ish) HD DVD players, so mathematically these numbers are very close to actual figures.

Whew! That took a lot of typing.

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[QUOTE="adriancostin83"]if they don't have any games...so yeah they watch moviesMagical_Zebra

Nope. Lack of games are irrelevant. Many people purchased PS3 with no intention of ever using it to play games. :D

Interesting. I guess the fact that it can also "double" as a game machine is a bonus.... :shock:

hell yeah it is.

HD-DVD has only sold 900K movies. Shion512

No, HD-DVD had hit a Million in April, shortly after Blu-ray did... and I believe outsold it in may and june software wise...

[QUOTE="swanlee"]See the problem with that poll is it does not match the actual sales numbers of BLU-RAY titles. There have only been 1.5 million BLU-RAY movies sold since BLU-RAY was launched. If there are 3.5 million PS3's on the market plus a couple of hundred thousand stand alone BLU-RAY players then that means not many PS3 owners have actually bought any BLU-RAY movies for their PS3Innovazero2000

I was about to post something similar, Blu-ray software sales are lackluster given the amount of hardware on the market. Where as if you look at HD-DVD, there aren't as many on the market, but there is a better ratio of software being sold.

This was just last month...

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-players-outselling-blu-ray-alternatives-at-the-moment/

Anyone who says either is clearly winning is pathetically ignorant...this war is not even close to be decided...

That does -not- include pS3s.

That's not as negative as you'd want it to be.

The poll says 75% of PS3 users use PS3 as primary movie viewing machine and not primarly as a movie viewing machine

There's a big difference. That only means that the PS3 has a good qualityblu-ray player

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[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="swanlee"]See the problem with that poll is it does not match the actual sales numbers of BLU-RAY titles. There have only been 1.5 million BLU-RAY movies sold since BLU-RAY was launched. If there are 3.5 million PS3's on the market plus a couple of hundred thousand stand alone BLU-RAY players then that means not many PS3 owners have actually bought any BLU-RAY movies for their PS3Kinitari

I was about to post something similar, Blu-ray software sales are lackluster given the amount of hardware on the market. Where as if you look at HD-DVD, there aren't as many on the market, but there is a better ratio of software being sold.

This was just last month...

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-players-outselling-blu-ray-alternatives-at-the-moment/

Anyone who says either is clearly winning is pathetically ignorant...this war is not even close to be decided...

That does -not- include pS3s.

Thats not saying much when HD-DVD is matching or outselling BD-Rom movies. That says people with the stand alones are buying more movies then ps3 users.

It's pretty pathetic if you think about it.

[QUOTE="Shion512"]HD-DVD has only sold 900K movies. Innovazero2000

No, HD-DVD had hit a Million in April, shortly after Blu-ray did... and I believe outsold it in may and june software wise...

No, HD-DVD sales did not match or exceed Bluray movie sales in May or June. In fact, it hasn't come close in a long time.

Well there wasn't a big selection of games for a long time (the great games all come out later this year) and it was (and may still be) the cheapest blu-ray player on the market so this is no surprise. Thank you Captain Obvious!

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

the estimate on ps3 sold is 3 million world wide?

so 2.25 million bought it for blu-ray while 750,000 bought it for the purpose to buy games.

Kinitari

Incorrect - the poll asks if people use it as their primary movie viewing machine. Meaning - me for example - I used to use a crappy DVD player, then I got a PS3, not I use my PS3 for all my movie watching. But I got the PS3 cause I am a gamer. Still, it is my PRIMARY movie viewing machine.

very good point, but 3/4 the rabbid fanboy's in the forum will overlook it entirely and scream "LAWL"S teh ps3 is teh failure"

I personally use mine 50/50 I have about 600.00 in blue ray movies, and I have about $130.00 in games. But between Motorstorm and Resistance alone eat up alot of my time in gaming on the PS3, but I also own some gems from the PSN store, that also eat alot of my time :P

But yea my PS3 is my media DvD/Blue Ray machine, and I have a Media Center PC for everything else.

[QUOTE="Kinitari"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="swanlee"]See the problem with that poll is it does not match the actual sales numbers of BLU-RAY titles. There have only been 1.5 million BLU-RAY movies sold since BLU-RAY was launched. If there are 3.5 million PS3's on the market plus a couple of hundred thousand stand alone BLU-RAY players then that means not many PS3 owners have actually bought any BLU-RAY movies for their PS3Innovazero2000

I was about to post something similar, Blu-ray software sales are lackluster given the amount of hardware on the market. Where as if you look at HD-DVD, there aren't as many on the market, but there is a better ratio of software being sold.

This was just last month...

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/11/hd-dvd-players-outselling-blu-ray-alternatives-at-the-moment/

Anyone who says either is clearly winning is pathetically ignorant...this war is not even close to be decided...

That does -not- include pS3s.

Thats not saying much when HD-DVD is matching or outselling BD-Rom movies. That says people with the stand alones are buying more movies then ps3 users.

It's pretty pathetic if you think about it.

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="Shion512"]HD-DVD has only sold 900K movies. ramey70

No, HD-DVD had hit a Million in April, shortly after Blu-ray did... and I believe outsold it in may and june software wise...

No, HD-DVD sales did not match or exceed Bluray movie sales in May or June. In fact, it hasn't come close in a long time.

Well I know for a fact that in the second half of May, HD-DVD had more top 25's then Bluray did...I don't know about June however.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=117

Blu-Ray is a valid reason for buying the PS3. Many people are buying it for Blu-Ray playback exclusively.

Shion512

That may be so; however, that reason is also ending as standalone players are now cheaper than the PS3. Both Sony and Samsung have units $100 less than the PS3 now.

Even if the PS3 price drops next week, it is only a matter of a few months to weeks at most before a standalone player is cheaper again. Indeed, it is certain that standalone players will drop in price faster than the PS3 and that by Christmas there will be a several hundred $ advantage in buying a standalone player vs a PS3.

Meaning...that within 6 months...no one will be buying it for BluRay playback exclusively. Which does raise a valid question about Sony strategy...but that's another thread.