POLL: Resident Evil.....Before and After

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#1 TOOLFRENZY
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There's no argueing that it definetely appeals to the shooter crowd nowadays, but just out of curiousity, do you like the turn the resident evil series made with RE4 and after?
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#2 hakanakumono
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While both styles are good on there own, there isn't another game to take up the place of old RE, while new RE is entering a world of shooters.

So it is disappointing to see RE take a new direction that feels totally against the style and atmosphere of the older games.

I personally prefer the old style, although the new was fun.

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#3 AAllxxjjnn
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I'd like to see the new gameplay + scares.
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#4 Toriko42
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It evolved well if you ask me
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#5 LightReflection
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Old style. I only got a deflated feeling from RE4, it honestly didn't do much for me.
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#6 Can-o-Mark
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RE4 had superb controls. The old RE games had superb atmosphere.
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#7 hakanakumono
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It evolved well if you ask meToriko42

For something to evolve, it has to inherit part of what it was. There is no Resident Evil in 4. Except for maybe the character ... names.

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#8 Ragashahs
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Resident Evil is a survival horror game to me and with RE4 it seems capcom wnats to go with the trend and make it a shooter. personally i just wish capcom would have made a Resident evil spinoff seris if they wanted to make it a shooter
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#9 DragonfireXZ95
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The problem I have with the new style is, that being the camera is behind you and you can move and run around like a regular 3rd person shooter. It just bugs me to all hell that you can't run backwards, and that you can't even walk slowly or strafe while aiming with a gun or even a knife. Simply ridiculous considering your character has no problem jumping down from a 16 foot high drop, but can't do the things mentioned above.
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#10 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]It evolved well if you ask mehakanakumono

For something to evolve, it has to inherit part of what it was. There is no Resident Evil in 4. Except for maybe the character ... names.

Perhaps, but appearances can be...deceptive I think Mikami did a business move, he knew more people wanted action so he made it an action game. I knew the old style wouldn't last in the evolving market so I was ready to give it up. Resident Evil 4 was a great game and even though it may not be classic Resident Evil it is still awesome.
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#11 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]It evolved well if you ask meToriko42

For something to evolve, it has to inherit part of what it was. There is no Resident Evil in 4. Except for maybe the character ... names.

Perhaps, but appearances can be...deceptive I think Mikami did a business move, he knew more people wanted action so he made it an action game. I knew the old style wouldn't last in the evolving market so I was ready to give it up. Resident Evil 4 was a great game and even though it may not be classic Resident Evil it is still awesome.

That is true. Its certainly a money maker.

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#12 craftieman05
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RE4 had superb controls. The old RE games had superb atmosphere.Can-o-Mark
The controls didn't really change from the older style to the new style. You still have to aim to shoot and still can't move when aiming.. You have to do a full turn just to walk in another direction or hit back and square or B or whatever. It is like they took the fixed camera from the old games and stuck in behind the character in RE4. Well they did add a knife button and more aiming options than up, straight, and down. If you don't believe me just play some of the older games and you will see that they are very much alike. But they did work wonderfully well in RE4. I prefer the older style. I felt more scared in that game becuase of the atmosphere, not having an abundance of ammo (could be walking around with a knife) or health. The controls even added to the overall creepy factor. It is not as scary now, but it has is moments where it is still creepy. I enjoyed RE4 though, but I like the older style
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#13 InsaneBasura
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Well I wouldn't have cared much for it had they kept the old style either, so... I liked RE1, 2 and 3, but nowadays it's not really my thing.
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#14 JangoWuzHere
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new style. The old Resident evils were pretty much garbage if you ask me.
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#15 drinkoasis
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The pre-4 REs had absolutely abysmal gameplay.
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#16 McdonaIdsGuy
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Capcom needs to remake RE2 witht the new style to show naysayers that the game stills RE no matter what.
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#17 Martin_G_N
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Capcom needs to remake RE2 witht the new style to show naysayers that the game stills RE no matter what.McdonaIdsGuy
Yeah. Resident Evil 2 remake would be a perfect game. I loved the new controls and gameplay of Resident Evil 4, but it did'nt feel like a resident evil game. It was'nt as scary.
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#18 PAL360
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Its ok but not as good as Resi1, 2, 3 and Code Veronica IMO
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#19 bobbetybob
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I love the new style, I just wish they would give the old style a rethink for like the Wii maybe (since they won't give us Wii owners a proper RE game) and get a middle ground, where you can aim easily, but it still keeps the scares. That being said, a lot of people will be surprised with how creepy, tense and claustrophobic RE5 feels, and also how freaking hard it is (if the demo is anything to go by anyway)
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#20 WilliamRLBaker
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RE4 was bad simple as that and re5 looks to be gears of war.

I want my survival horror games damit, And RE4 and 5 aren't evolution of survival horror they are completely different genres.

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#21 LightReflection
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The pre-4 REs had absolutely abysmal gameplay. drinkoasis
I lol'd pretty hard.
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#22 finalfantasy94
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RE4 had superb controls. The old RE games had superb atmosphere.Can-o-Mark

I think thats one good way to put it. I felt like rambo in RE4 and didint really feel the atmosphere I felt from the other games.

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[QUOTE="Can-o-Mark"]RE4 had superb controls. The old RE games had superb atmosphere.finalfantasy94

I think thats one good way to put it. I felt like rambo in RE4 and didint really feel the atmosphere I felt from the other games.

off-topic : dude change your sig she ain't dead :P,and is a known fact already but i won't spoil anything else.
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#25 heretrix
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I like both style for what they are. If Capcom hadn't evolved the series then people would be whining about how stale it is. It needed a revamp. If the series would have remained the same way, it would have probably wound up like the Tomb Raider series.
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#26 akif22
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RE4 was great i didn't mind the increased focus on action only thing missing was that it could have done with more atmosphere, and psychological horror
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#27 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

RE4 was bad simple as that and re5 looks to be gears of war.

I want my survival horror games damit, And RE4 and 5 aren't evolution of survival horror they are completely different genres.

Eyezonmii

*facepalm*

you just worship at the alter of what RE is now, But unlike you i've been a fan of RE far longer and have more RE stuff and RE4 was bad compared to past games and it wasn't survival horror it was a 3rd person shooter, and RE5 seems to even further this trend, RE used to be survival horror now its not its 3rd person shooter which is sad, I play RE for complicated puzzles lots of item management cinematic camera angles and creepy atomosphere something RE4 never had and re5 seems not to have in the least.

As well this They CASUALISED resident evil they went from a genre and model that appealed to teh few, to a model and genre that appeals to a much broader base its sad.

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#28 Stoner-Pimp
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Old style, as already said, the new style is just a 3rd person shooter set in the Resi Evil world, i for one would love an old style Resi Evil with updated graphics.
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#29 JamOnToast221
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i like the new style and ilke the old style i think that they are both great although i have to say the new over the shoulder camera makes me feel more like im in the game and it also makes me appreciate the character. it is sad that they arent as scary as they once were ( i remember running out f the room as nemesis would come crashing through the window in resi 3 , a window he shouldnt have been able to fit through mind but a windw none the less lol) but still the new style is fun andim just glad that the story is being continued :). i have to admit that if they hadnt changed the design then the series might have died away without a conclusion which would have sucked
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#30 RuinedMachine
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I prefer the old style (RE2 FTW) but the new ones are still great games.
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#31 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Can-o-Mark"]RE4 had superb controls. The old RE games had superb atmosphere.McdonaIdsGuy

I think thats one good way to put it. I felt like rambo in RE4 and didint really feel the atmosphere I felt from the other games.

off-topic : dude change your sig she ain't dead :P,and is a known fact already but i won't spoil anything else.

Are you pulling my leg? Dont make this mans hope rise just to be crushed.

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#32 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I prefer the new style, by far. The gameplay of the first ones was abysmal, but it was compensated by the atmosphere. Just that after FIVE games with that abysmal gameplay, the atmosphere stopped being enough compensation. RE4 has everything, a superb gameplay (that no shooter has matched, yet), great atmosphere (even if it was not as good as in previous games) and excellence on the details. RE5 looks like it follows that trend. I'm glad to see that.
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#33 Flamestos
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Resident Evil lost itself when it evolved into action series. The new gameplay is fine for what it is but is nothing compared to the gameplay I experiences I had with the earlier style. It's missing alot of what made Resident Evil what it was.
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#34 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I think thats one good way to put it. I felt like rambo in RE4 and didint really feel the atmosphere I felt from the other games.

finalfantasy94

off-topic : dude change your sig she ain't dead :P,and is a known fact already but i won't spoil anything else.

Are you pulling my leg? Dont make this mans hope rise just to be crushed.

She is alive, but is killed near the end of the game.

.............................................................................

j/k. I've no idea lol :P

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#35 RuinedMachine
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I prefer the new style, by far. The gameplay of the first ones was abysmal, but it was compensated by the atmosphere. Just that after FIVE games with that abysmal gameplay, the atmosphere stopped being enough compensation. RE4 has everything, a superb gameplay (that no shooter has matched, yet), great atmosphere (even if it was not as good as in previous games) and excellence on the details. RE5 looks like it follows that trend. I'm glad to see that.IronBass



The RE series is one of constant AA/AAA ratings so this abysmal gameplay you speak of is unheard of.



You're probably too young to have played the older RE games before RE4 came out.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]I prefer the new style, by far. The gameplay of the first ones was abysmal, but it was compensated by the atmosphere. Just that after FIVE games with that abysmal gameplay, the atmosphere stopped being enough compensation. RE4 has everything, a superb gameplay (that no shooter has matched, yet), great atmosphere (even if it was not as good as in previous games) and excellence on the details. RE5 looks like it follows that trend. I'm glad to see that.RuinedMachine



The RE series is one of constant AA/AAA ratings so this abysmal gameplay you speak of is unheard of.



You're probably too young to have played the older RE games before RE4 came out.

I'm probably older than you. And you can bet I've played them, even the remakes for the GameCube.

And I think it was pretty obvious that it was my opinion, so it being AA/AAA doesn't mean anything.

Besides, the abysmal control scheme/camera angles is of common knowledge.

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#37 LookAnDrolL
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The thing is, in RE4 you feel safe almost all the time, and if you die, you just restart from the last chekpoint, wich is ridiculous close to where you'r been... that's wrong, its a good thing for an action game, but not for an horror game. I mean, back to Silent Hill 1, you had 3 bullets, you couldnt see a **** and you were hunted by some awfull ghosts, wich you couldnt kill by the way; in a horrible corridor full of rust and bodys hanging mutilated...

Now that's what i want from a horror game.

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#38 DaBrainz
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The only other RE games I've played were RE1 and RE0(GC versions) and I found RE1 and RE0 exhausting with the interface and menus and such. I don't know why they can't make a game that has the best of both worlds.
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#39 -DrRobotnik-
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I loved the classic RE games, and i loved RE4 and will probably love RE5. But no, i dont like the direction the series has gone. I wish when they came up with the idea for RE4, they hadve just created it as a new ip similar to what they done with Devil May Cry.
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#40 doobie1975
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ive played the hell out the RE5 demo. cant wait. no way id want to go back
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#41 johnlennon28
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I prefer the old style, although I also love the new style, but they shuldve named re4 and 5 a new title, but I guess linking it to resident evil series would help the sales
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#42 RuinedMachine
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[QUOTE="RuinedMachine"][QUOTE="IronBass"]I prefer the new style, by far. The gameplay of the first ones was abysmal, but it was compensated by the atmosphere. Just that after FIVE games with that abysmal gameplay, the atmosphere stopped being enough compensation. RE4 has everything, a superb gameplay (that no shooter has matched, yet), great atmosphere (even if it was not as good as in previous games) and excellence on the details. RE5 looks like it follows that trend. I'm glad to see that.IronBass




The RE series is one of constant AA/AAA ratings so this abysmal gameplay you speak of is unheard of.



You're probably too young to have played the older RE games before RE4 came out.

I'm probably older than you. And you can bet I've played them, even the remakes for the GameCube.

And I think it was pretty obvious that it was my opinion, so it being AA/AAA doesn't mean anything.

Besides, the abysmal control scheme/camera angles is of common knowledge.

Why would play all the installments (remakes included) of a series you think had such "abysmal" gameplay?

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#43 Master-Thief-09
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New gameplay > old gameplay
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The old RE games are classic but the gameplay wouldn't have held up today, they had to change it

RE4 is a new classic

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#45 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="RuinedMachine"]


The RE series is one of constant AA/AAA ratings so this abysmal gameplay you speak of is unheard of.



You're probably too young to have played the older RE games before RE4 came out.RuinedMachine

I'm probably older than you. And you can bet I've played them, even the remakes for the GameCube.

And I think it was pretty obvious that it was my opinion, so it being AA/AAA doesn't mean anything.

Besides, the abysmal control scheme/camera angles is of common knowledge.

Why would play all the installments (remakes included) of a series you think had such "abysmal" gameplay?

Because, as I also said on my original post, the atmosphere (and with it I include puzzles, characters, and plot) compensated that.

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#46 tek91
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If the game had stayed the same people would have complained about them not changing the formula I like the new control I just hope the next game Resident Evil 6 will have zombies but with better graphics and the new control

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#47 Dystopian-X
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RE4 was bad simple as that and re5 looks to be gears of war.

I want my survival horror games damit, And RE4 and 5 aren't evolution of survival horror they are completely different genres.

WilliamRLBaker

Yeah they aren't survival horror or even thrilling at all anymore. I think the new gameplay is really good though and RE 4 is one of my favorite games last gen but I don't see why they had to take out most of the thrilling atmosphere and puzzles to include the new shooter oriented gameplay, other games blend those two really well.

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#48 Sword-Demon
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i prefer that RE stays with its roots. that being said, RE4 was amazing, and im betting RE5 with be even better. the problem is that its simply not resident evil.