Poll: Safe to Say MS will have the best E3 due to being the underdog?

The thing is they have had a past of cancelling title so even if they have a great show people will still saying that its going to get cancelled or be buggy. Not only do they need a killer show, they also need at least 2 AAAE released this year that aren't buggy. They know they need to step up there game, (Rumours) Halo 6 isn't coming this year even tho its needed. So unless they have some AAAE that they have hid well, which they might of, I don't expect anything that great to be released soon.

Question is I can’t recall when was the last time they had the best show..

As if it's any challenge to improve of what they've been doing for quite some time now.

I think they're gonna announce forza and forza

They're always going to have a great show. Not saying that what's in the show is going to be good. They just always know how to give a good E3 presentation. Except that one time when they tried to go 1984 on Xbox users.

All I need to see from them is Age of Empires IV

I really don't care for another Halo/gears/forza and I haven't cared for some years now.

It won't matter what they show/announce or how good of a conference it is, some people (inc. some media) have already made their minds up about Xbox and that's it.

And to be honest, I think others are hyping it too much and are expecting too much from the conference. They aren't going to announce everything they have in the works, this year. It'll still be too early to show some stuff I'm guessing.

But I'm expecting a solid conference... like the past few years. They know how to do a conference MS.

I'm expecting the word 'exclusive' to be boomed on the microphone while it is followed by or trailed by a lot of words that mean the game aint exclusive.

If they don't announce any new interesting IP then they are fucked.

They were the underdog against Sony last year , and what happened ? Did they have the better E3?

E3 is about marketing and M$ sucks at it, so no.

With MS nothing is safe. Except maybe some new fake definition of what they call an "exclusive".

The bar is set prety low with them.

lol, console season exclusive is the only thing they haven't used.

@Ant_17: I'm sure they have a dozen execs sitting around a table with a few lawyers brainstorming ideas that will still be legal but unethical.

Somehow despite having zero hope they will deliver anything worthwhile, they will still manage to disappoint.

I'll go with unlikely. Still possible... but doubtful.

I’ll go with probably myself. It is the conference that I’m most looking forward to.

I think they will disappoint people even more since they are hyping the E3 and different arena, long show etc. I have a felling it's all going to backfire.

@hrt_rulz01: lololol keep up that ms defence force son. Already downplaying any announcements cause it’ll be “too soon”. Jesus Christ.

So if they show some great new IP's and clips of upcoming games from existing franchises basically showing that they aren't actually dead and buried nobody will be excited?

You know that's absolute bullshit. Look at all the coverage Sea of Thieves got long after it was evident it was a steaming pile of shit.

Is that what lems are reduced to now? Playing the victim card? If they have a good show they'll be praised for it, simple as that. Only problem is....

...to answer the OP, WTF are they going to show? Halo 6 and Gears 5 coming at the end of this year would be mindblowing (I love both franchises) but I don't think they're going to just pop up out of nowhere, Spencer has spent all his time fucking up the Xbox One X with a decent GPU and horrible CPU and messing about with BC and has only recently announced that he now realises his game console is actually supposed to have games.

Nah, they will be absolute garbage again with Phil announcing his 'console exclusive' (lol) indie titles and showing them on screen in pretend 'true' 4K.

Fair point.

43 exclusives buddy! Count'em FORTY-THREE!!!

That's the problem... "a good show" to some people will be completely unrealistic in terms of expectations.

Anyway, whatevs.

@hrt_rulz01:

What's completely unrealistic to expect from MS?

For the record I do expect a Gears this year. (though I did hear a concerning rumor about what "type" of game it is supposed to be)

That they're going to announce everything they have in the works, this year. For example, it's pretty much all but confirmed that a new Fable is in the works at Playground Games, but it would still be super early in development. So I think it's unlikely that we'll see anything of it this year. And I can almost guarantee that if it isn't at E3 this year, some people/media will claim it's the end of the world for Xbox.

Same for this rumoured new studio in Santa Monica... it'd be highly unlikely that they're ready to show anything yet. But I'm sure some people are expecting announcements from them too.

Anyway, time will tell.

When is the last time MS had a good E3? Sony didn't even show up last year and MS still couldn't come out the winner.

Unlikely. There is a SLIM chance that they have a series of exclusives lined up that can overtake it, but I doubt it. It's Nintendo's game to lose at this point.

I really don't think people are "expecting" those specific games because as you've said, those are rumors.

But people want to see something worth holding faith and loyalty for. It's the 5th year into the console cycle and MS has delivered goose eggs the last 2 years. And THIS years current line up is 100% compromised of 2017's delayed games.

It's a little late to be saying just wait til next year since people have been waiting for some big quality titles since Quantum break in April of 2016

When was the last time E3 actually made announcements that we didn't already know about? other than maybe a title of a game?

Xbox will probably be the worst.

Sometime in the 360 era when Gears and Halo had pull.

I'm gonna say unlikely. But they could pull a bunch of desperation moves. Hard price drops on both their current consoles, killing XBL and putting it in Game Pass, announce games that aren't coming for years despite what Phil Spencer said about the issue. Of course they could do something really stupid and announce future hardware... again.

They're gonna pull off a piece of empty hype that may have people talking about them. There's too much pressure on them to deliver to not do SOMETHING. They've been getting beat up way too much in gaming circles not to.

Lol. Being the underdog doesn't make it safe that Xbox would have a good E3 showing. Not even in the slightest.

@BenjaminBanklin:

I say go ham on the CGI, and live action trailers.

Xbox fans love Halo CGI and live action trailers so if the games aren't ready, F*** it, just hit the play button and show them movies of what they hope to deliver in the future.

Better than going on stage and showing nothing but indie level titles with that GOD voice going "Exclusive" in the background.

Lol, talks about CG trailers yet pretend that Ghost of Tsushima have yet to show anything but CG and two years of Last of Us 2 non gameplay movies.??

Lol I know... their hypocrisy is incredible.

What they have to market?

They got that coming as a TV series directed by Spielberg. Which having him direct I'm kind of excited for.

You forgot the worst offender Death Stranding.

Difference being...Sony had GAMEPLAY for high profile AAA games coming out at each year of those events and they didn't rely on non-gameplay trailers to stay a float.

Also, you guys seem to be confusing CG with in-game cinematic. The Halo trailers were 100% fake CG not even game engine like Sony's trailers.

Yeah...Sony not doing that^100% movie CG lol

Sorry you can't compare Sony to anything MS is doing this gen because it doesn't work out.

Let me know when MS shows gameplay for several AAA caliber games in single event, then you can scream "Sony dose it too" if they throw in a game engine trailer or 2 at the end, not before.

MS usually does 90 mins. But they are going for 2 hours this year.

Hopefully they can fill it with stuff that will make SW interesting again.

I'm interested in hearing more on the new studio. They need games to show off that's my biggest worry for ms.

But Sony games aren't shown off with CG they all use in engine graphics for their trailers.

let's compare

MS 's BS 100% non-game derived CG movie trailers

The same has been true for titles like the cancelled Phantom Dust Remake, Scalebound, Gears of War 4 and Halo Wars 2.

vs

Sony's actually uses the game engine you'll see in game to show off titles.

The same is true for Infamous Second Son, Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn and every other graphically impressive game Sony had produced this gen

...and Death Stranding is no exception using a version of HZD's engine to power the visuals we've seen so far.

Any more questions?

Sony does sound boring for e3 even if I do want everything they are showing, no clues are really out about MS but Nintendo sounds amazing. I can't imagine MS getting themselves together enough to beat either.

If they showed a new Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, Dead Rising and a couple new impressive IPs they might be able to compete.

Nah. As much as i'm excited to possibly see Halo 6, and even some more Gears, I think Sony has a pretty solid showing in the making. Nintendo is up in the air, but I have no doubt with theirSwitch momentum, they could crush it.

@tgob89 said:

@i_p_daily said:

@Pedro said:

Lol, talks about CG trailers yet pretend that Ghost of Tsushima have yet to show anything but CG and two years of Last of Us 2 non gameplay movies.??

You forgot the worst offender Death Stranding.

But Sony games aren't shown off with CG they all use in engine graphics for their trailers.

let's compare

MS 's BS 100% non-game derived CG movie trailers

The same has been true for titles like the cancelled Phantom Dust Remake, Scalebound, Gears of War 4 and Halo Wars 2.

vs

Sony's actually uses the game engine you'll see in game to show off titles.

The same is true for Infamous Second Son, Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn and every other graphically impressive game Sony had produced this gen

...and Death Stranding is no exception using a version of HZD's engine to power the visuals we've seen so far.

Any more questions?

I'm sure you're aware that the vast majority of "in engine" trailers are actually running on PC's when shown on stage. Game developers don't waste the time and effort on porting the code to what ever console that early in a development cycle. A lot of the time even games with early playable chunks are running on PC's as well.

unhuh..

Not Sony's exclusives bud. They specifically are built to the metal of the systems hardware, so yeah no, not on PC buddy. PS4 dev kits not PC. Nice try.

@tgob89: Are you serious? You actually think a game is developed and compiled entirely with console level hardware. The games are built on the most powerful PC's they can utilise or need, the code is then re-compiled to run on the dev kit's weaker hardware and console operating system, then it is optimised, using the Dev kit, to run on the even weaker base console unit.

When they show an in engine trailer it's running on a PC, every time guaranteed, or do you actually think the presentation is running on a PS4 behind the stage?

MS will show

Halo 6, gears 5,forza 4,ori 2,crackdown 3.

These are big games but are almost sure to be shown on the stage,no surprises. MS needs to step up to match sony at this point in time. 2 surprise big exclusives apart from the above mentioned will surely have a positive impact.

All the above mentioned should have release dates b/w fall of 2018 to early 2020.

No need to show fable if it's 4 years out.

I think they need to announce the new studio and what games are being talked about. They need to generate interest in the Xbox platform.

WRONG!!! Are YOU serious?

Oh God just shut the hell up with the lies. You're literally making shit up because of your desperation to throw Sony in the same boat as MS.

Before anyone pays attention to the false information you're trying to spread here.

PS4 Games At E3 Ran On PS4 Dev Hardware, Not High-End PCs

https://www.cinemablend.com/games/PS4-Games-E3-Ran-PS4-Dev-Hardware-High-End-PCs-56752.html

Were Xbox One E3 Demos Running On NVIDIA Hardware? It Doesn't Matter, And Here's Why

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2013/06/15/were-xbox-one-e3-demos-running-on-nvidia-hardware-it-doesnt-matter-and-heres-why/#3fd6f81ca061

OWNED! and DEVASTATED!

Time for you to go back into your cave lem...

I wonder why you guys have to reach so far as to become lying low lives..

You really don't know what the hell you're talking about, but you tried to bullshit the wrong poser.

Stop confusing Sony with MS and creating damage control arguments to desperately lump Sony in with them.

You were trying to pull arguments from your butt and hoping that it sticks but you'd have to be really fucking stupid to be trying to make the argument that Sony uses PC to show their their PS4 EXCLUSIVES...those games are literally built with specialized PS4 hardware engines coded to the metal.

Just because MS was caught with using smoke and mirrors during their E3 presentations with High end PC's doesn't mean that's what Sony dose, Just stop it. You've made a big enough fool of yourself for 10 lemmings.