Poll: Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed vs. Mario Kart 8

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Poll Poll: Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed vs. Mario Kart 8 (42 votes)

Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed 55%
Mario Kart 8 64%

Mods is it possible to merge the previous thread with this one...or just lock the old one. I forgot to add a poll.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/sonic-all-star-racing-transformed-vs-mario-kart-8-31701426/#9

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#1 PikachuDude860
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Mario Kart 8. The driving feels much better and smoother. Though I'll admit that Sonic Racing was good too.

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#2 Bigboi500
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Poll is glitched.

Anyways... Mario Kart 8 is the superior kart racer, anyone who says otherwise is a stupid doody head.

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#3 speedfreak48t5p
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@Bigboi500 said:

Poll is glitched.

Anyways... Mario Kart 8 is the superior kart racer, anyone who says otherwise is a stupid doody head.

Mario Kart is garbage though, Sonic and All-stars is a qualtiy racer.

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Mario Kart 8 by far. Best kart racer in general.

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#5  Edited By jg4xchamp
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Sonic All Stars actually has good gameplay

Mario Kart is socialism.

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#6  Edited By funsohng
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@jg4xchamp said:

Sonic All Stars actually has good gameplay

Mario Kart is socialism.

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#7  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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I'm going with Sonic. Mario is boring.

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#9 KBFloYd
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been meaning to try sonic racing...i may get it one day.

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#10  Edited By Raptor_Herc
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Mario Kart 8 certainly is superior to the 3DS/iOS versions of Sonic Racing Transformed as it does not have broken gameplay/control issues. The other platforms likely stand a better chance, however (have not yet played MK8).

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#11 bforrester420
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Why do these polls never have a "both" or "neither" option?

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#12 Pikminmaniac
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Probably Sonic and All-stars racing Transformed. Mario Kart 8 has better mechanics, but it's broken due to the rigged item system. Transformed is more fair and rewards your efforts which is incredibly important for a game IMHO.

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#13 Big_Pecks
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MK8 is another reason why Mario Kart is the best racing series sooo

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#14  Edited By Renegade_Fury
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Like I wrote in the other thread, SASRT is one of my favorite arcade racers. Mario Kart, I don't even consider it as a racer, but rather as a party game.

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@bforrester420 said:

Why do these polls never have a "both" or "neither" option?

gamespot polls only allow 2 options now.

its horrible.

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#16  Edited By Oemenia
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Mario Kart Wii was far too reliant on powerups and too little on racing. Also the stages in Sonic are just incredible. And lastly, Nintendo games get high marks too easily.

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#17  Edited By FreedomFreeLife
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or.

SONIC WINS

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Haven't played MK 8 yet but I did play Sonic ASRT and I liked it. Last time a kart racing game competed with a Mario Kart game was Diddy Kong Racing and it's great to see something like that again. Also it reminds me of the good old days of Mario vs Sonic times.

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Sonic. Mario kart is all hype

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Sonic is good on PC (60fps), haven't played MK8 but I bet it's good too.

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#21 LegatoSkyheart
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Played both.

Mario Kart 8 by far. Even though Sonic Transformed has that awesome Golden Axe level.

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#22  Edited By MrYaotubo
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SASR Transformed is the best "kart" racing game ever made,both with great gameplay,fantastic visuals,silky smooth 60fps,way better and more varied characters to choose from and same goes to the tracks,but especially,it doesnt have the terrible rubberbanding and items that make the game into a lottery instead of skill. Its a skill based game unlike the MK games,and the same goes to the Mario Party games for instance,no matter how badly you do you almost always have a chance to win in the end,wich makes for a good party game for sure,but one almost skillless.
Just look at the recent mario party videos on giantbomb and see how pathetic it is,and many of those issues plague mario kart as well.

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@MrYaotubo said:

SASR Transformed is the best "kart" racing game ever made,both with great gameplay,fantastic visuals,silky smooth 60fps,way better and more varied characters to choose from and same goes to the tracks,but especially,it doesnt have the terrible rubberbanding and items that make the game into a lottery instead of skill. Its a skill based game unlike the MK games,and the same goes to the Mario Party games for instance,no matter how badly you do you almost always have a chance to win in the end,wich makes for a good party game for sure,but one almost skillless.

Just look at the recent mario party videos on giantbomb and see how pathetic it is,and many of those issues plague mario kart as well.

I don't believe you've played MK8. It is the rare occasion where someone very far behind makes a comeback. In fact, it is one of the most hectic race focused games that isn't a sim. Timing in this game is very tight in order to be good at it.

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#24  Edited By Pikminmaniac
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@Heirren said:

@MrYaotubo said:

SASR Transformed is the best "kart" racing game ever made,both with great gameplay,fantastic visuals,silky smooth 60fps,way better and more varied characters to choose from and same goes to the tracks,but especially,it doesnt have the terrible rubberbanding and items that make the game into a lottery instead of skill. Its a skill based game unlike the MK games,and the same goes to the Mario Party games for instance,no matter how badly you do you almost always have a chance to win in the end,wich makes for a good party game for sure,but one almost skillless.

Just look at the recent mario party videos on giantbomb and see how pathetic it is,and many of those issues plague mario kart as well.

I don't believe you've played MK8. It is the rare occasion where someone very far behind makes a comeback. In fact, it is one of the most hectic race focused games that isn't a sim. Timing in this game is very tight in order to be good at it.

It's pretty darn random getting first place in Mario kart 8 though. The rate of getting coins in the higher placements is terrible so you are completely helpless against blue and red shells a lot of the time. I'd say the game might be perfect if it wasn't for the coin and blue shell items. Everything else is rather fair, but as it stands, the game feels more like a lottery than something that rewards skill. In fact, it still feels like skill is exactly what it wants to punish.

P.S. Unfortunately yaotubo, All-stars racing transformed is not 60fps. It runs at solid 30fps.

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#26  Edited By MrYaotubo
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@Pikminmaniac said:

@Heirren said:

@MrYaotubo said:

SASR Transformed is the best "kart" racing game ever made,both with great gameplay,fantastic visuals,silky smooth 60fps,way better and more varied characters to choose from and same goes to the tracks,but especially,it doesnt have the terrible rubberbanding and items that make the game into a lottery instead of skill. Its a skill based game unlike the MK games,and the same goes to the Mario Party games for instance,no matter how badly you do you almost always have a chance to win in the end,wich makes for a good party game for sure,but one almost skillless.

Just look at the recent mario party videos on giantbomb and see how pathetic it is,and many of those issues plague mario kart as well.

I don't believe you've played MK8. It is the rare occasion where someone very far behind makes a comeback. In fact, it is one of the most hectic race focused games that isn't a sim. Timing in this game is very tight in order to be good at it.

It's pretty darn random getting first place in Mario kart 8 though. The rate of getting coins in the higher placements is terrible so you are completely helpless against blue and red shells a lot of the time. I'd say the game might be perfect if it wasn't for the coin and blue shell items. Everything else is rather fair, but as it stands, the game feels more like a lottery than something that rewards skill. In fact, it still feels like skill is exactly what it wants to punish.

P.S. Unfortunately yaotubo, All-stars racing transformed is not 60fps. It runs at solid 30fps.

I was refering to the PC version wich runs a buttery smooth 60fps,and in the end the PC version is pretty much the platform to play the game and the version that the developers put all their effort into,all the extra content including downloadable characters(free or otherwise)are mostly made almost exclusively for the PC version these days,where the console versions have lacked any meaningful support for a long time now. Its not the same but it would be almost like discussing the console ports of valve games instead of the far superior originals on the PC,and using those ports to point the issues of a certain game when they only exist in those versions.

If we were talking about the console versions though then yeah,the game would lose a lot of points for being 30fps,wich makes a huge difference in a game like this.

And yes @Heirren,I do own MK8(and all other MK games on home consoles since 64),its one of the few nintendo franchises I really like,alongside Metroid,F-Zero and Pikmin.

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@Pikminmaniac said:

@Heirren said:

@MrYaotubo said:

SASR Transformed is the best "kart" racing game ever made,both with great gameplay,fantastic visuals,silky smooth 60fps,way better and more varied characters to choose from and same goes to the tracks,but especially,it doesnt have the terrible rubberbanding and items that make the game into a lottery instead of skill. Its a skill based game unlike the MK games,and the same goes to the Mario Party games for instance,no matter how badly you do you almost always have a chance to win in the end,wich makes for a good party game for sure,but one almost skillless.

Just look at the recent mario party videos on giantbomb and see how pathetic it is,and many of those issues plague mario kart as well.

I don't believe you've played MK8. It is the rare occasion where someone very far behind makes a comeback. In fact, it is one of the most hectic race focused games that isn't a sim. Timing in this game is very tight in order to be good at it.

It's pretty darn random getting first place in Mario kart 8 though. The rate of getting coins in the higher placements is terrible so you are completely helpless against blue and red shells a lot of the time. I'd say the game might be perfect if it wasn't for the coin and blue shell items. Everything else is rather fair, but as it stands, the game feels more like a lottery than something that rewards skill. In fact, it still feels like skill is exactly what it wants to punish.

P.S. Unfortunately yaotubo, All-stars racing transformed is not 60fps. It runs at solid 30fps.

I disagree. Now, I have stated that I may think there are some balance issues with the karts/bikes, but the items play a smaller role in this performance. If you get a banana, shell--hold on to it. Also, the tracks are designed in a way where shells only work so well. Shells don't pass gravity walls and there are often sections that completely stop them.

The blue shell fiasco happens once in a while. I won't say that it doesn't but it is the rare occasion where it actually affects the race. I play the game a lot and if I had to average the hours since the dlc pack i'd say there was ONE, maybe two times where I'm riding first and end up in 7th or so.

The bigger issue with the game is pack separation. The races tend to favor a few packs of racers. I notice that there's generally an upper 3 or 4 people competing, then a middle of the pack, and some people lagging behind. It is that starting gate that is important. Getting stuck in the middle pack distances you from the upper pack because there's more chaos going on. Then, there's the people that suck and I can maybe theory that its just a holes chillin for that blue shell to f the front racers out of spite.

As far as the actual kart on track, though, this game emphasizes skill more than any other kart racer.

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All this Sonic praise. I should really try it out.

**** the coin.

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#29  Edited By AzatiS
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I go with Sonic here , i have this game on Steam and its pretty fun. IF not better than MK8 its as solid as it gets. Did i mention i bought it less than dollar ? Yeap... How much Mk8 cost to play ? 360$ ? Ill go with sonic and a few cents here.

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Sonic because of the stupid powerups that are broke in mk and how MK punished you for being in the lead.

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#31 Nanomage
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Sonic Transformed is the best game in that style/genre ever made,MK8 is good but it continues to have the same type of bullshit of previous games,removing a lot of the skill and making the races mostly the luck of powerups.

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#32  Edited By m64
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I go with MK8

But Sonic is a great game too

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#33  Edited By madsnakehhh
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Mario Kart 8 by far.

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#34  Edited By Catalli  Moderator
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@jg4xchamp said:

Sonic All Stars actually has good gameplay

Mario Kart is socialism.

Guess we could call it Marxio Karlts lololololololo

EDIT: Socialism rocks.

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MK8 but mainly because honestly I wasn't a fan of the boat and flight sections.

Granted I only played the console version of Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed and not the PC version.

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#36 greensand24
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Character Charm

Sonic Transformed: 9.5

MK8: 8.0

Giving us baby versions of characters is weak sauce including 8 different colors of Yoshi is nice but again it just doesn't do anything to an already weak lineup in MK8

Actual Racing Gameplay/Mechanics/ Skill:

Sonic Transformed: 9.5

MK8: 8.5

Go do a race in Mk8 and then fire up Sonic Transformed and you will FEEL the difference(speed, drifting, turbo, etc..). Also as good as MK 8 is it can get cheap. Anyone denying this is flat out lying and/or haven't played Sonic Transformed.

POWER-UPS/Items:

Sonic Transformed: 9.5

MK8: 8.5

Love the Golden Mushroom in MK8 but I can also see how people call that cheap. Also although the red shell is cool I feel the computer uses it to abuse whomever is in first place. I mean give the racers who are trailing to use their skill before giving out this item. can't tell you how many times I was a few feet from the finish line only to get slammed two or maybe three times in a row with a red shell and then maybe for good measure a spiked shell--ridiculous.

The items/ power ups are a bit more balanced and just overall better in Sonic Transformed. It feels like when you win or lose in Sonic it was because of skill (or lack thereof). Don't feel that way in MK8.

OVERALL:

Sonic Transformed: 9.5

MK8: 8.5

Of course there are those that will say Mario because he is more popular. But if you play both games and trust me both are fun. But as a pure Kart Racer Sonic Transformed is just better. IMHO it is the best Kart Racer I have ever Played!

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#37  Edited By Shinobishyguy
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Lol "mario kart 8 takes no skill". If you were talking about the wii version you'd be right but 8 is a whole different beast. It's way easier to maintain a lead if you get it early on and blue shells are rare

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#38 Sgt_Crow
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It seems people are mixing up MK Wii and MK8.
The latter is actually more about skill and not the lottery people make it out to be.

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#39 superbuuman
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MK8 but SonicASRT is a worthy competitor..hope there will be another SonicASRT. :P

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#40 Bigboi500
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MK8 takes skill and a little luck to finish in the top three a lot of the time. You have to really practice and play a lot to have a chance in this MK. As others have said, it's nothing like MK Wii as far as skill goes.

Seems like a lot of the people dissing it don't want to spend the time it takes in order to be good (or simply haven't played it). It's fine if you want to be lazy and all and not play, just don't blame the game if you can't win with little effort.

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#41 billyhatcher312
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@Bigboi500 said:

Poll is glitched.

Anyways... Mario Kart 8 is the superior kart racer, anyone who says otherwise is a stupid doody head.

wow really dude ur an idiot i prefer sonic transformed its better and much more challenging and i can beat all races in mk8 in a day if i wanted to and thats sad that u only prefer mk8 over sonic transformed

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@billyhatcher312:

I would also travel through time to call Bigboi an idiot.

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#43  Edited By AnthonyAutumns
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@ConanTheStoner said:

@billyhatcher312:

I would also travel through time to call Bigboi an idiot.

LOL

inb4 lock

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#44 Litchie
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I haven't tried Sonic enough to answer this. I tried the demo, which made the game seem cool, but I need a bigger picture. MK8 is awesome, but Sonic looks great as well. A bit faster and more action filled.

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#45 deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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Sonic Racing Transformed is better than Mario Kart 8.

Sonic Racing Transformed has a more fair item system, better tracks, a more varied character roster, and it actually has a decent battle mode.

I'd say that Sonic Racing Transformed is the best kart racer since Mario Kart 64.

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#46  Edited By aigis
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A perfect 126%

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#47 aigis
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@KBFloYd said:
@bforrester420 said:

Why do these polls never have a "both" or "neither" option?

gamespot polls only allow 2 options now.

its horrible.

You can do more than 2 cant you?

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#48  Edited By AzatiS
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@Bigboi500 said:

Poll is glitched.

Anyways... Mario Kart 8 is the superior kart racer, anyone who says otherwise is a stupid doody head.

Stupid doody head here ! I dislike both since im not fan of such games but if i had to choose from my experience , Sonic one was more fun to me than kart 8 ( i even bought it on steam )

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#49 onesiphorus
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Why is a year-old thread bumped?