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That's what happens when modders get to work.

Man I feel bad for consoles gamers :P

Did we really need this thread? It is bad enough when console users frequently do it; then blame us like it's our fault they made a thread. Threads like this provide the ammo for them to say "You see, PC gamers do it! PC gamers are just as bad", even though they are responsible the majority of the time...

what's the point if the game will have average gameplay? Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis and look forward to continuing the story, but the gunplay was a bit lacking.

what's the point if the game will have average gameplay? Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis and look forward to continuing the story, but the gunplay was a bit lacking.

Zero_epyon

Here we go, people are already calling the game average, even though Crysis is anything but average...

Did we really need this thread? It is bad enough when console users frequently do it; then blame us like it's out fault they made a thread. Threads like this provide the ammo for them to say "You see! PC gamers do it! PC gamers are just as bad", even though they are responsible the majority of the time...

AnnoyedDragon

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

what's the point if the game will have average gameplay? Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis and look forward to continuing the story, but the gunplay was a bit lacking.

AnnoyedDragon

Here we go, people are already calling the game average, even though Crysis is anything but average...

I never played the first Crysis so I can't comment on the first title. The only thing I can say is that it looks pretty haha and I do plan on playing the second title.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

what's the point if the game will have average gameplay? Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis and look forward to continuing the story, but the gunplay was a bit lacking.

AnnoyedDragon

Here we go, people are already calling the game average, even though Crysis is anything but average...

I know a lot of people who have played Crysis and found it average.jalexbrown

And I imagine none of them elaborated on that accusation, they never do when I ask them.

Average is a 'scripted' 'corridoor' shooter, neither of which describes Crysis.

I find most of the time these people are used to playing scripted shooters like Call of Duty, games that lead you around by the nose from one scripted event to the other, telling you exactly what to do and when. When they are put in a game where they have to actually 'think' for themselves on how to go about completing a objective, they get lost. So you get these people who just enable armour mode and go around shooting everything they see.

Never mind the modular weaponry, the alternative fire and ammo modes, the suit modes, the environmental tools, the alternative routs etc...

They treat the game like a run & gun; so they get a run & gun, missing out on all the things a more creative player would utilize. So now a highly dynamic game is average because it didn't cater to the people who want to treat a game like progressing through a movie, XYZ happening at XYZ times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTRbXgU4co.

And I imagine none of them elaborated on that accusation, they never do when I ask them.

Average is a 'scripted' 'corridoor' shooter, neither of which describes Crysis.

I find most of the time these people are used to playing scripted shooters like Call of Duty, games that lead you around by the nose from one scripted event to the other, telling you exactly what to do and when. When they are put in a game where they have to actually 'think' for themselves on how to go about completing a objective, they get lost. So you get these people who just enable armour mode and go around shooting everything they see.

Never mind the modular weaponry, the alternative fire and ammo modes, the suit modes, the environmental tools, the alternative routs etc...

They treat the game like a run & gun; so they get a run & gun, missing out on all the things a more creative player would utilize. So now a highly dynamic game is average because it didn't cater to the people who want to treat a game like progressing through a movie, XYZ happening at XYZ times.

AnnoyedDragon

Some of those images are insane. Unfortunatly I cant really find any money to put aside for a gaming computer...someday though.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]I know a lot of people who have played Crysis and found it average.AnnoyedDragon

And I imagine none of them elaborated on that accusation, they never do when I ask them.

Average is a 'scripted' 'corridoor' shooter, neither of which describes Crysis.

I find most of the time these people are used to playing scripted shooters like Call of Duty, games that lead you around by the nose from one scripted event to the other, telling you exactly what to do and when. When they are put in a game where they have to actually 'think' for themselves on how to go about completing a objective, they get lost. So you get these people who just enable armour mode and go around shooting everything they see.

Never mind the modular weaponry, the alternative fire and ammo modes, the suit modes, the environmental tools, the alternative routs etc...

They treat the game like a run & gun; so they get a run & gun, missing out on all the things a more creative player would utilize. So now a highly dynamic game is average because it didn't cater to the people who want to treat a game like progressing through a movie, XYZ happening at XYZ times.

Well, to be perfectly honest I thought it was average as well. Certainly not from a presentation standpoint, as anyone who argues against Crysis being (by far) the best looking game of all time technically, is lying or a blind fanboy. BUT, if you asked me for a list of games this gen that I had more fun with, it wouldn't be a short list.

Moral of the story: Presentation and realism are NOT the most important components of a good game.

(Mind you, not calling Crysis bad either. Just, as a game and not a tech-showcase, average)

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

And I imagine none of them elaborated on that accusation, they never do when I ask them.

Average is a 'scripted' 'corridoor' shooter, neither of which describes Crysis.

I find most of the time these people are used to playing scripted shooters like Call of Duty, games that lead you around by the nose from one scripted event to the other, telling you exactly what to do and when. When they are put in a game where they have to actually 'think' for themselves on how to go about completing a objective, they get lost. So you get these people who just enable armour mode and go around shooting everything they see.

Never mind the modular weaponry, the alternative fire and ammo modes, the suit modes, the environmental tools, the alternative routs etc...

They treat the game like a run & gun; so they get a run & gun, missing out on all the things a more creative player would utilize. So now a highly dynamic game is average because it didn't cater to the people who want to treat a game like progressing through a movie, XYZ happening at XYZ times.

jalexbrown

They told me that no matter which approach you take, the outcome is essentially the same, and thus the freedom is mostly artificial. And from what little bit I played of Crysis, you pretty much do go from point A to point B to point C, just with different ways to approach it, but like I said...same outcome.jalexbrown

You're confusing a linear progression with linear game play.

The story is linear, the primary path through the game is linear; but offers alternative routs and objectives. But the game play, the way you approach the game, is entirely open.

In a scripted game there is only one way of completeting an objective, even if they offer alternatives they tend to be pre-defined. Crysis doesn't do that; as you utilize your tools, the environment and the AI to achieve the objective.

If you think that is 'average' with the majority of FPS being like COD, then you are just being argumentative.

Average is a 'scripted' 'corridoor' shooter, neither of which describes Crysis.

AnnoyedDragon

There are some average free-rome games out there. :)

Did we really need this thread? It is bad enough when console users frequently do it; then blame us like it's our fault they made a thread. Threads like this provide the ammo for them to say "You see, PC gamers do it! PC gamers are just as bad", even though they are responsible the majority of the time...

AnnoyedDragon

There are some average free-rome games out there. :)

Trmpt

Of course there are, but the typical FPS falls under a scripted and corridor like experience. Saying Crysis is the same as those games is highly uninformed.

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That's what happens when modders get to work.

Man I feel bad for consoles gamers :P

Mitjastiskovski

So beautiful :cry: I think i have to download some newer mods and start playing crysis again

I so want this mod (If the animations are done right)

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]I know a lot of people who have played Crysis and found it average.AnnoyedDragon

And I imagine none of them elaborated on that accusation, they never do when I ask them.

Average is a 'scripted' 'corridoor' shooter, neither of which describes Crysis.

I find most of the time these people are used to playing scripted shooters like Call of Duty, games that lead you around by the nose from one scripted event to the other, telling you exactly what to do and when. When they are put in a game where they have to actually 'think' for themselves on how to go about completing a objective, they get lost. So you get these people who just enable armour mode and go around shooting everything they see.

Never mind the modular weaponry, the alternative fire and ammo modes, the suit modes, the environmental tools, the alternative routs etc...

They treat the game like a run & gun; so they get a run & gun, missing out on all the things a more creative player would utilize. So now a highly dynamic game is average because it didn't cater to the people who want to treat a game like progressing through a movie, XYZ happening at XYZ times.

youre wasting your time, even though youre right. the gameplay is massively underrated.

Of course there are, but the typical FPS falls under a scripted and corridor like experience. Saying Crysis is the same as those games is highly uninformed.

AnnoyedDragon

People have compared it directly to a corridor FPS?

I so want this mod (If the animations are done right)

Furzjodler

I want to shoot that thing with an arrow.

Its got that standard dinosaur expression on its face. The kind that says "Yeah I'm a dinosaur, what are you going to do about it?" It pisses me off. :x

People have compared it directly to a corridor FPS?

Trmpt

If not directly then suggested, I've heard people say COD4 was less generic, spawning comparisons like this.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

what's the point if the game will have average gameplay? Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis and look forward to continuing the story, but the gunplay was a bit lacking.

jalexbrown

Here we go, people are already calling the game average, even though Crysis is anything but average...

i feel the same way . the game got boring for me a while ago . The powers are meh the guns are nothing that different and the story is awful . the only out standing thing about it is the engine it runs on . witch was buggy me for untill the updates .

Have these mods been released? I would love to get my hands on them

what's the point if the game will have average gameplay? Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis and look forward to continuing the story, but the gunplay was a bit lacking.

Zero_epyon

Crysis has some of the best gun-play of any shooter ever IMO. More open and dynamic than anything else in terms of straight mechanics IMO...

[QUOTE="Trmpt"]

People have compared it directly to a corridor FPS?

AnnoyedDragon

If not directly then suggested, I've heard people say COD4 was less generic, spawning comparisons like this.

No point in trying to convince console players to change their opinion. Console players like corridor shooters that last 5 hours, everyone is saying how crysis sucks, yet it got positive reviews all around the internet.

Don't worry, they will like crysis 2 when it comes to consoles.

i feel the same way . the game got boring for me a while ago . The powers are meh the guns are nothing that different and the story is awful . the only out standing thing about it is the engine it runs on . witch was buggy me for untill the updates .

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

i feel the same way . the game got boring for me a while ago . The powers are meh the guns are nothing that different and the story is awful . the only out standing thing about it is the engine it runs on . witch was buggy me for untill the updates .

jalexbrown

I really, REALLY like the engine, but I absolutely do not find the Crysis games to be impressive in the least. Take that engine, and make an RPG or sandbox third-person game, then we've got gameplay to adore along with the graphics. As an FPS, I find Crysis quite lackluster. Its visuals, however, are unsurpassed to this day, ESPECIALLY with the mod community.Brainhunter

yeah i know how you feel . As a pc gamer saying i don't like crysis other pc gamers act like its sacrilege

No point in trying to convince console players to change their opinion. Console players like corridor shooters that last 5 hours, everyone is saying how crysis sucks, yet it got positive reviews all around the Internet.

Don't worry, they will like crysis 2 when it comes to consoles.

Mitjastiskovski

Quite frankly this is depressing, the gaming industry cannot move forward because gamers are happy with a lessor experience.

We aren't watching movies, this is interactive entertainment, it should be encouraging more interactivity and player investment in the experience. Yet when given a game that encourages greater interactivity; the mainstream turn their noses up at it, because they prefer the cookie cutter scripted experience that has been mass produced for over a decade.

I really shouldn't be surprised, that's the formula for most successful mass market games. Same accessible/broad appeal game play with slight tweaks over time & shinier graphics, instant 1 million unit seller. Be sure not to give them any choices, it just makes them feel bad when they don't all lead to rewards...

The 'problem' with Crysis is it doesn't have a quest compass leash telling them what to do every 15 seconds and infinitely respawning enemies to keep them busy...

I've got to be totally honest and say that I don't feel like I'm missing much by not having Crysis.jalexbrown

[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]

No point in trying to convince console players to change their opinion. Console players like corridor shooters that last 5 hours, everyone is saying how crysis sucks, yet it got positive reviews all around the Internet.

Don't worry, they will like crysis 2 when it comes to consoles.

AnnoyedDragon

Quite frankly this is depressing, the gaming industry cannot move forward because gamers are happy with a lessor experience.

We aren't watching movies, this is interactive entertainment, it should be encouraging more interactivity and player investment in the experience. Yet when given a game that encourages greater interactivity; the mainstream turn their noses up at it, because they prefer the cookie cutter scripted experience that has been mass produced for over a decade.

I really shouldn't be surprised, that's the formula for most successful mass market games. Same accessible/broad appeal game play with slight tweaks over time & shinier graphics, instant 1 million unit seller. Be sure not to given them any choices, it just makes them feel bad when they don't all lead to rewards...

The 'problem' with Crysis is it doesn't have a quest compass leash telling them what to do every 15 seconds and infinitely respawning enemies to keep them busy...

Your pc is not that great. so i guess you have a "lessor experince " as well . 8800gt is old and so is your cpu . Upgrading yearly or even bi yearly for a small jump is not worth it for most people .

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

i feel the same way . the game got boring for me a while ago . The powers are meh the guns are nothing that different and the story is awful . the only out standing thing about it is the engine it runs on . witch was buggy me for untill the updates .

jalexbrown

I really, REALLY like the engine, but I absolutely do not find the Crysis games to be impressive in the least. Take that engine, and make an RPG or sandbox third-person game, then we've got gameplay to adore along with the graphics. As an FPS, I find Crysis quite lackluster. Its visuals, however, are unsurpassed to this day, ESPECIALLY with the mod community.Brainhunter

You just described how I played Crysis on my previous PC. I played through the earlier levels more than a few times and having the graphics on low didn't seem to hinder my enjoyment levels much at all.

Your pc is not that great. so i guess you have a "lessor experince " as well . 8800gt is old and so is your cpu . Upgrading yearly or even bi yearly for a small jump is not worth it for most people .

dontshackzmii

I basically just criticised the entire mainstream gaming audience and your response is I need to upgrade?

I have spent this thread talking about Crysis game play; yet all I hear the counter side prioritize is graphics. The only part of the game they care about is not the open game play approach; but the graphics. You are saying to me right now that my experience is "lessor" because I haven't got the hardware to get the full tech experience in Crysis; and this is your response to a comment criticising the mainstream audience of having low standards?

Was you intending to reinforce my impression or was this accidental?

You just described how I played Crysis on my previous PC. I played through the earlier levels more than a few times and having the graphics on low didn't seem to hinder my enjoyment levels much at all.

hypoty

Wow. Some of those pics look like photographs.

I was wondering... My PC can run Crysis, but only on minimum settings (My Video Ram is only 256 MB, when I need 640 MB. Besides that, everything else is good to run it on recommended settings). If I pick up a new video card for about $80(and somehow find out how to change it with my old one) then I can run it on recommended settings.

Is the game worth it to get even just to run on minimum settings? Or should I get a new video card for my PC? (I don't do much PC Gaming) Or should I just forget about playing Crysis all-together.

Wow. Some of those pics look like photographs.

I was wondering... My PC can run Crysis, but only on minimum settings (My Video Ram is only 256 MB, when I need 640 MB. Besides that, everything else is good to run it on recommended settings). If I pick up a new video card for about $80(and somehow find out how to change it with my old one) then I can run it on recommended settings.

Is the game worth it to get even just to run on minimum settings? Or should I get a new video card for my PC? (I don't do much PC Gaming) Or should I just forget about playing Crysis all-together.

Duxsox56

[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]

No point in trying to convince console players to change their opinion. Console players like corridor shooters that last 5 hours, everyone is saying how crysis sucks, yet it got positive reviews all around the Internet.

Don't worry, they will like crysis 2 when it comes to consoles.

AnnoyedDragon

Quite frankly this is depressing, the gaming industry cannot move forward because gamers are happy with a lessor experience.

We aren't watching movies, this is interactive entertainment, it should be encouraging more interactivity and player investment in the experience. Yet when given a game that encourages greater interactivity; the mainstream turn their noses up at it, because they prefer the cookie cutter scripted experience that has been mass produced for over a decade.

I really shouldn't be surprised, that's the formula for most successful mass market games. Same accessible/broad appeal game play with slight tweaks over time & shinier graphics, instant 1 million unit seller. Be sure not to give them any choices, it just makes them feel bad when they don't all lead to rewards...

The 'problem' with Crysis is it doesn't have a quest compass leash telling them what to do every 15 seconds and infinitely respawning enemies to keep them busy...

Why do you feel that making a sweeping generalization like this is the proper and correct answer? I mean hey, you could be right.

But what if, you know, people just don't happen to enjoy it? What if the setting and story don't appeal to them? Maybe some people find the gunplay dissatisfying.

On second thought, what am I thinking? It's gotta just be the fact that everyone who doesn't like Crysis LOVES corridor shooters and worships at the altar of stale game design.

Cool.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

what's the point if the game will have average gameplay? Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis and look forward to continuing the story, but the gunplay was a bit lacking.

AnnoyedDragon

Here we go, people are already calling the game average, even though Crysis is anything but average...

i know.. thats why i dont even bother trying to prove how wrong they are.to the ppl that say its a tech demo with average gameplay. i just post this from now on :)

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

what's the point if the game will have average gameplay? Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis and look forward to continuing the story, but the gunplay was a bit lacking.

devious742

Here we go, people are already calling the game average, even though Crysis is anything but average...

i know.. thats why i dont even bother trying to prove how wrong they are.to the ppl that say its a tech demo with average gameplay. i just post this from now on :)

"Fun" and "quality gameplay" are all subjective.

Thanks for playing and have a nice day. :)

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

what's the point if the game will have average gameplay? Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis and look forward to continuing the story, but the gunplay was a bit lacking.

devious742

Here we go, people are already calling the game average, even though Crysis is anything but average...

i know.. thats why i dont even bother trying to prove how wrong they are.to the ppl that say its a tech demo with average gameplay. i just post this from now on :)

That CryEngine 2 would be great to use for Alan Wake!

Graphics are great, but the game itself wasn't so. Crysis was mediocre for me.JunkTrap

No, you're wrong. Gaming isn't about what's fun for you. It's about what's accepted by the collective.

Give in. Join the Crysis cult. Your opinion doesn't matter. Look at review scores. enjoy games based on the experiences of others. IT LOOKS GREAT AND HAS ADVANCED PHYSICS AND A.I. SO IT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY THAT IT IS ANYTHING OTHER THAN FUN TO YOU!