Predict the ways in which Killzone 2 will be a letdown.

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#1 AfterShafter
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The first one looked promising. Great screenshots, neat videos, lots of hyped features, but in the end it showed that Guerilla's most notable talent was taking a mediocre game and making it look like a good one prior to release.


So now, here we are faced with the sequel to the biggest flop of last gen with the same bunglers at the helm, and Cows are hyping it like the second coming. Once again, it looks promising, good videos and screenshots, lots of hype... Let's take guesses as the particular ways in which this game will fail to deliver. Everyone pick something that will help make this game less than it appears to be and tell the forum.

I'll start... I bet it'll have notable framerate problems.
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#2 Eponique
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Framerate.
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#3 xboxrox11
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the fact that all good things come to an end makes killzone 2 a let down
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#4 zaid55
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ooo graphics.... gameplay elements, story let down
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#5 BioShockOwnz
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Everything will most likely be a letdown except for the story.
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#6 DeadMan1290
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It's the sequel to Killzone.
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#7 Ballroompirate
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most likely the story is gonna suck hardcore and or its prolly gonna be less than 6 hours SP.
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#8 SunLord592
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i d say gameplay, dont know about the story dont know whats it about, and if the story was even good for the first.
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#9 Consoletant
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You have to use thesix axis control scheme to aim.
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#11 edd678
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Storyline will suck
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#12 buuzer0
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AIMedjai

Yeah, this concerns me as well... I like that the enemies react and reel back when being riddled with bullets, but wouldn't this make it too easy? I know it's more realistic, but if they can't shoot back while getting shot, seems like it would make it too easy...

Who knows though.

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#13 AfterShafter
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I'll throw in boring weapons and enemies as well.
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#14 Viviath
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The story and characters in killzone are pretty sweet. And the gameplay in Killzone 1 was actually good, its just that the game had some glaring problems such as framerate issuses. From a technical standpoint, KZ1 was mess, but gameplay wise, it was actually a decent game. Most people on this board just say "Well its killzone 2 and killzone 1 sucked" without even playing the game. Most people who have played KZ1 will agree that it wasnt magnificent gamplay wise but it was good. Probably in the AA region but the technical problems completely killed the game. As for KZ2, the only thing I'm worried about is the AI.
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#15 Teh_Bob
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I reckon the AI will kill it
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#16 Bladez009
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Don't get me wrong, I love my PS3. But after seeing devs focus too much on graphics, it seems either the gameplay suffers (Lair), or the game is just too short (Heavenly Sword).

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#17 jyoung312
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TC you do realize that the GG that is making Killzone 2 is not the same as the GG that made Killzone1. If you didn't know their development team tripled, they have a huge budget, massive support from sony, and have had the experience of making a bad game that got lots of criticism from which they could build. Oh did I fail to mention that they made a great game inbetween in the form of Killzone: Liberation for the Psp, which actually has been updated so that it has more of a story, longer game time, and a fully featured online mode, which were the complaints that gs listed so that makes liberation better than its 8.3 score.
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#18 NaiKoN9293
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Graphics looks like a Wii game. The enemies looks like fairies that should rather be in a pokemon game. The guns are probably mostly water guns and bubble guns because the game is all about washing up the city instead of killing things.
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#19 PC360Wii
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Boring Helghast Bullet grind with gimmicky cover system. Just like the first one ( Minus the "proper cover" :lol: )
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#20 AfterShafter
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TC you do realize that the GG that is making Killzone 2 is not the same as the GG that made Killzone1. If you didn't know their development team tripled, they have a huge budget, massive support from sony, and have had the experience of making a bad game that got lots of criticism from which they could build. Oh did I fail to mention that they made a great game inbetween in the form of Killzone: Liberation for the Psp, which actually has been updated so that it has more of a story, longer game time, and a fully featured online mode, which were the complaints that gs listed so that makes liberation better than its 8.3 score.jyoung312


16 against, 1 "Buh, but, this time it will be different!!! JUST YOU WAIT!"
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#21 excelR83
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Hyping it like the second coming? Please. You don't see a lot of hype for KZ2 at all, especially compared to something like Halo 3.

Are you so threatened by the PS3's future that you need to pick apart a game you've never even seen? Or are you just bored? Play Bioshock, it's supposed to be fun.

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#22 achillizuk1
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takes 2hrs to complete
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#23 jyoung312
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[QUOTE="jyoung312"]TC you do realize that the GG that is making Killzone 2 is not the same as the GG that made Killzone1. If you didn't know their development team tripled, they have a huge budget, massive support from sony, and have had the experience of making a bad game that got lots of criticism from which they could build. Oh did I fail to mention that they made a great game inbetween in the form of Killzone: Liberation for the Psp, which actually has been updated so that it has more of a story, longer game time, and a fully featured online mode, which were the complaints that gs listed so that makes liberation better than its 8.3 score.AfterShafter
um if you actually read what wrote than you can see from killzone:liberation and the early impressions of kz2 that this is not the same GG and therefore you can't play the whole "kz1 sucked card"

16 against, 1 "Buh, but, this time it will be different!!! JUST YOU WAIT!"

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#24 frankeyser
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actaully i think it could turn out pretty good. hellthe first one had a good enough story that i played all the way through it. and it had good graphics just a horrible frame rate. so now that they have a bigger studio and more money behind them i could see them really making something great. i think they should have named it something else to distance it self from kilzone one but maybe it will work in there favor.

but i think the game could be good. i will probably like it better than halo, as i like the killzone universe way more than the halo universe.

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#25 Medjai
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Hyping it like the second coming? Please. You don't see a lot of hype for KZ2 at all, especially compared to something like Halo 3.

Are you so threatened by the PS3's future that you need to pick apart a game you've never even seen? Or are you just bored? Play Bioshock, it's supposed to be fun.

excelR83
were you here after E3 KZ2 was hyped really hard...Halo3 hype had a period there where it wasn't constant, although it has been steadily hyped since it was announced, it has alot of hype now because the game comes out next week...so ppl are hyped but it hasn't been this amount all the way through
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#26 AfterShafter
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[QUOTE="excelR83"]

Hyping it like the second coming? Please. You don't see a lot of hype for KZ2 at all, especially compared to something like Halo 3.

Are you so threatened by the PS3's future that you need to pick apart a game you've never even seen? Or are you just bored? Play Bioshock, it's supposed to be fun.

Medjai
were you here after E3 KZ2 was hyped really hard...Halo3 hype had a period there where it wasn't constant, although it has been steadily hyped since it was announced, it has alot of hype now because the game comes out next week...so ppl are hyped but it has been this amount all the way through



Not to mention that, unlike Killzone, it's the sequel to some of the best games of last gen.

But that's beside the point. Back to Killzone 2...

So, anyone else think that that whole "weather as a weapon" thing will end up being stupid and gimmicky?
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#27 Teh_Bob
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Hyping it like the second coming? Please. You don't see a lot of hype for KZ2 at all, especially compared to something like Halo 3.

Are you so threatened by the PS3's future that you need to pick apart a game you've never even seen? Or are you just bored? Play Bioshock, it's supposed to be fun.

excelR83

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA????!?!?

Are you joking?!!??! Not alot of hype around killzone 2? With no in game footage cows were hyping it as an AAA, now they are ten times worse.

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#28 sadikovic
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IMO

+Great SP not the BEST ever!

-Boring MP

8.0

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#30 Nedemis
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simple....eventually it'll be released.
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Gameplay. It looks shallow and the only thing that it has going for it is destructable enviornments. Even still, I don't see them implementing that into the game were it effects gameplay. Weres the epic weapon that gives people something to talk about outside of the game? Weres the gravity gun, the battle riffle, gravity hammer, crowbar, The chainsaw gun. What is KZ's epic weapon?

Character.
I feel that they are lacking right here. Theres nothing that makes me want to know my character that I'm playin with. Wheres the back story, weres the unique personality. What sets this character apart from all the other soldiers on field.

ArtSty-le.
This term gets used to losely around here. Other than its blatent rip-offs of world history, theres nothing there. Whats emotionally entriguing about a grey colored peice of wood or 2 story building? Absolutely nothing and its bundant in Killzone.
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#32 Captain_Waffles
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I think the AI and small/closed in enviroments will hurt this game more thananything else.
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[QUOTE="jyoung312"]TC you do realize that the GG that is making Killzone 2 is not the same as the GG that made Killzone1. If you didn't know their development team tripled, they have a huge budget, massive support from sony, and have had the experience of making a bad game that got lots of criticism from which they could build. Oh did I fail to mention that they made a great game inbetween in the form of Killzone: Liberation for the Psp, which actually has been updated so that it has more of a story, longer game time, and a fully featured online mode, which were the complaints that gs listed so that makes liberation better than its 8.3 score.AfterShafter


16 against, 1 "Buh, but, this time it will be different!!! JUST YOU WAIT!"

Make that 2, I think the game looks decent but how can you try to shoot it down when its so far away.

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#34 gink101
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I think killzone will be a great fps and im a 360 fanboy. It definately won't be a halo killer though unless it can capture the competetive and streamlined online multiplayer of halo.
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#35 AfterShafter
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Make that 2, I think the game looks decent but how can you try to shoot it down when its so far away.

badgert


Its developers are trash, they have proven to put on a good show with a bad product, and their only even decent game was a handheld game on a handheld where it had almost no competition. This game has something to prove - it deserves no faith. If it's great, I will play and buy it - I did it with Smash Bros. and Metroid Prime and they now constitute some of my favorite games. Killzone is likely to be a load of crap - let Guerilla prove to me that it won't be.
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#36 ArisShadows
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You will be playing as Masterchief.
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#37 AskForDetails
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The first one looked promising. Great screenshots, neat videos, lots of hyped features, but in the end it showed that Guerilla's most notable talent was taking a mediocre game and making it look like a good one prior to release.


So now, here we are faced with the sequel to the biggest flop of last gen with the same bunglers at the helm, and Cows are hyping it like the second coming. Once again, it looks promising, good videos and screenshots, lots of hype... Let's take guesses as the particular ways in which this game will fail to deliver. Everyone pick something that will help make this game less than it appears to be and tell the forum.

I'll start... I bet it'll have notable framerate problems.AfterShafter

the same bunglers at the helm... i think not GG has changed sooo much

20 devs became 135 devs

PC training became PS3 training

3rd part became 1st party

less than 1 year became 3 years

and soo much posative feedback form everyone

why do you want to be flamed sooo much

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#38 AfterShafter
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why do you want to be flamed sooo much

AskForDetails


Almost everyone has agreed with me so far :|
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The cover system they completely threw in copying Gears of War.
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#40 ff7isnumbaone
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ooo graphics.... gameplay elements, story let downzaid55

why would it be a let down in graphics and gameplay. Doesn't matter to me because unlike man of you fanboys I will be playing it when it comes out and I owned killzone. Which was average. Only way its gonna be a let down is if i see little improvement from killzone. Also if multiplayers sucks. Multiplayer on killzone was fun, eventhough i wish they had co-op.

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The cover system they completely threw in copying Gears of War.cyborgjak427

and gears got that from kill switch for ps2. so?

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#42 tonythestudent
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The biggest let down will probably be the lemmings scattering after it turns out to be a great game :lol:
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#43 CrazyyyDylan
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gameplay story, and multiplayer
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#44 paksiwin
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i dont expect that Killzone 2 was better than first one
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#45 paksiwin
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what should i expect for this one if the fiirst one was a crap!
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#46 AfterShafter
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The biggest let down will probably be the lemmings scattering after it turns out to be a great game :lol:tonythestudent


I'm not a Lemming, but I'll be here. Didn't run from MP not sucking balls. This doesn't have half the chance MP did though.
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#47 NitaraPwnzU
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It will be compared to Halo 3 and Gears of War for teh FAIL...
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#48 Big_T-Mac
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this thread is depressing... i'll go with overall crappy controls! wonky, imprecise sticks & and suxasis gimmicky use FTL!
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#49 Big_T-Mac
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[QUOTE="cyborgjak427"]The cover system they completely threw in copying Gears of War.ff7isnumbaone

and gears got that from kill switch for ps2. so?

killswitch was multiplatform, btw. and they stole that from an n64 exclusive (that over a year later was released on ps2) called winback operations.

nice try.