PROOF that Nintendo has ALWAYS been about gameplay.

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#1 Willy105
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Real IGN article from August 25, 2000

The first and most obvious ga ming innovation Nintendo is offering the world is its bold new controller design. Many may argue that the controller looks like a Fisher Price toy, but time and time again Nintendo has proven you can't judge a book by its cover. Consider the Nintendo 64 controller. When it was first unveiled many couldn't believe how odd it looked. Then, after playing a game like Mario 64 they realized just how great the controller was in its design. However, I don't want to taint this commentary with talking about the N64 controller. While the N64 controller was the most ergonomic of controllers, its layout wasn't widely useful. Gamecube's controller is a completely different story. In terms of feel the controller is said to slip into your palm of your hand and melt.The button layout is definitely the most unique the industry has ever seen. No longer will you be guessing which button you're pressing, because each button has a distinct feel and a distinct look. This is dramatically different than any other controller on the console market. Another great feature about the controller that I'm really excited about is the button layout. The A, B, X, and Y buttons are laid out like a D-pad in a way. You center your right thumb on the large A-button, and then the B, Y, and X buttons can be thought of as left, up, and right, respectively. I think once everyone actually holds the controller and plays their first Gamecube game that they'll be quite delighted.

Take that fanboys.

Guess only Sony fans are the only ones that can go from "gameplay>graphics" to "Graphics are what makes games next gen!" in a second.

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#2 web966
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GC did have the best controller last-gen.
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#3 VinnoT
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I agree. Was a great controller.
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#4 laughingman42
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GC did have the best controller last-gen.web966
agreed. except for the D-pad. it was just to out of place.
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#5 foxhound_fox
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GC did have the best controller last-gen.web966


$30 Wavebird >>> Wired GC controller

:P

Nintendo is always innovating. 

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#6 acekall
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feeling that controller in your hand was godly
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#7 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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Nintendo is always innovating. foxhound_fox

Innovation is basically the foundation of Nintendo.

And the GC controller was great,especially the Wavebird.

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#8 Setsa
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If it isn t broken, don t fix it. I ll take the PS controller thx.
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#9 CJL13
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Hated the GC controller, had no fourth special button, C stick and control pad were placed pretty off.
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#10 cfamgcn
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GC did have the best controller last-gen.web966

Very true... I loved it to play Smash...

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#11 PannicAtack
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They sure weren't about "gampeplay" when they ran a taxi company. >_>

Sorry, couldn't resist. >_>

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#12 Shinobishyguy
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GC did have the best controller last-gen.web966
I know right!

It was curvy and fitted right into your hands. 

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#13 foxhound_fox
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They sure weren't about "gampeplay" when they ran a taxi company. >_>

Sorry, couldn't resist. >_>

PannicAtack


Bu...but... teh Love Hotel?!?
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They sure weren't about "gampeplay" when they ran a taxi company. >_>

Sorry, couldn't resist. >_>

PannicAtack
I was thinking the same thing.
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#15 ringuzi
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overall it was good and felt great but...
the dpad and cstick were too small and useless for proper gameplay, all they were used well for was cycling through weapons
and the Z button was dumb too, have 4 shoulder buttons or 2....why did they have 3, such a waste of space
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#16 Arnalion
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If it isn t broken, don t fix it. I ll take the PS controller thx.Setsa

 

Ehm. The PS controller has always been broken. It's un ergonomic and has misplaced analog sticks.

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#17 link_knight89
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GC did have the best controller last-gen.web966
no i think the xbox did (imo) but nintendo did bring people together with pure fun of super smash bros.
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[QUOTE="Setsa"]If it isn t broken, don t fix it. I ll take the PS controller thx.Arnalion

 

Ehm. The PS controller has always been broken. It's un ergonomic and has misplaced analog sticks.

Actually the PS3 altered design made me dislike it unlike the PS1/PS2 controller.

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#19 web966
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[QUOTE="Setsa"]If it isn t broken, don t fix it. I ll take the PS controller thx.Arnalion

 

Ehm. The PS controller has always been broken. It's un ergonomic and has misplaced analog sticks.

QFT

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#20 linkhero1
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[QUOTE="web966"]GC did have the best controller last-gen.laughingman42
agreed. except for the D-pad. it was just to out of place.

I agree
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#21 Setsa
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[QUOTE="Setsa"]If it isn t broken, don t fix it. I ll take the PS controller thx.Arnalion

 

Ehm. The PS controller has always been broken. It's un ergonomic and has misplaced analog sticks.

And that's your opinion. Personaly, i liked the PS/PS2 controller a lot and i found the triggers on the GC and the PS3 controllers to be uncomfortable. Xbox has always had comfortable controllers, but they are a little chunky. The Wii mote though... it just doesn t feel right in my hands.
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#22 tool_rage
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THIS is PROOF that Nintendo has always cared about gameplay.

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#23 topcatyo
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2 things:

1.) I didn't quite enjoy the Gamecube controller.  It was really uncomfortable, had out of place buttons, and just didn't feel right.

2.) Nintendo was about graphcis from the SNES to the Gamecube.  The NES was about getting them into gaming.  Then, they had the SNES, which was only special because it had 16-bit graphics that they used as a selling point.  Then, with the Nintendo 64, the whole console was about how it had 64-bit graphics.  They named the console after the graphics.  Then, the Gamecube had the best graphics of last generation, and had a controller that was no different other than the fact the buttons were in weird places and had weird colors.

Nintendo makes great games, but to say they they've never been about graphics is lying.

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#24 oback
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wavebird is BA
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#25 laughingman42
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THIS is PROOF that Nintendo has always cared about gameplay.

tool_rage

thats just proof your a fanboy.

edit: or fakeboy. sarcasm doesnt go well over the internet.

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#26 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="tool_rage"]

THIS is PROOF that Nintendo has always cared about gameplay.

laughingman42

thats just proof your a fanboy. 

Funny thing its on both 360 and PS3.

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#27 foxhound_fox
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THIS is PROOF that Nintendo has always cared about gameplay.

tool_rage


Another port of a PS2 movie game?
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Hated the GC controller, had no fourth special button, C stick and control pad were placed pretty off.CJL13

Me to. 

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#29 GloverD
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Change the "C stick" to an analog...
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#30 majadamus
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Nah..Sony, with the dualshock/sixaxis, had the best controllers for the last 3 generations. Gamecube's controller was surprisingly comfortable, but I hated that damn "C analog stick" and that Z button was misplaced as well. I did love the Wavebird though. Last generation the X Box controller was awful. I should never have to move both hands on one side of a controller to pull of a move. This generation it's hard to decide between the 360 controller and Wii-mote as to which is the worst.
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#31 Rosencrantz
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GC did have the best controller last-gen.web966

I've owned the SNES, N64, GC and Wii.  I didn't have a NES because I bought the Master System instead.  HOWEVER, I disagree with the original article...the N64 controller blew and was a piece of crap.  The GC controller was decent but it was far from perfect with the z button being so small. And even after having it for years I still occasionally mixed up the X and Y buttons during gameplay. 

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#32 tool_rage
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tool_rage"]

THIS is PROOF that Nintendo has always cared about gameplay.

ArisShadows

thats just proof your a fanboy.

Funny thing its on both 360 and PS3.

Proof i'm a fanboy?  Fair enough, if there is such thing as a PC PS3 360 fanboy, who has a lot of respect for Nintendo... 

Funny thing its a lot better looking on 360 and PS3.

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#33 camzaman
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The Z button was fine actually, I never like two buttons for my left hand it just doesn't feel right.  I agree the dpad was small and the c-stick could have been better but other than that the controller is money, ergonomics, button placement, etc.
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Proof i'm a fanboy? Fair enough, if there is such thing as a PC PS3 360 fanboy, who has a lot of respect for Nintendo...

Funny thing its a lot better looking on 360 and PS3.

tool_rage


Why wouldn't it look a lot better? The Wii was never designed to compete graphically with the PS3/360.
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#35 MrAran
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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tool_rage"]

THIS is PROOF that Nintendo has always cared about gameplay.

tool_rage

thats just proof your a fanboy.

Funny thing its on both 360 and PS3.

Proof i'm a fanboy? Fair enough, if there is such thing as a PC PS3 360 fanboy, who has a lot of respect for Nintendo...

Funny thing its a lot better looking on 360 and PS3.

The only difference I see is resolution. Easily fixable in motion.
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#36 tool_rage
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lol. ok. 

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#37 wergfwefwef
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of course nintendo has always been about gameplay. Its not like Nintendo can beat MICROSOFT ( people who developed software for computers everywhere ) and SONY ( people who create almost every home media or portable device e.g. DVD players, TV, MP3, etc. )  in a technological competition...

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#38 elektrixxx
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That must've been what they planned for the A and B button colours.

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#39 waynehead895
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That controller gave me mixed feelings. Great feeling in hands but I still dislike the button placement.
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#40 tool_rage
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[QUOTE="tool_rage"]Proof i'm a fanboy? Fair enough, if there is such thing as a PC PS3 360 fanboy, who has a lot of respect for Nintendo...

Funny thing its a lot better looking on 360 and PS3.

foxhound_fox



Why wouldn't it look a lot better? The Wii was never designed to compete graphically with the PS3/360.

EXACTLY.  That's why I said "Nintendo has always been about gameplay" 

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#41 helium_flash
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The D-Pad sucked though, as did the Z button.  But those were rarely used anyway.

 

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#42 m_machine024
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The control stick of the GC controller was so cheap... like the N64 one.
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#43 Lazy_Boy88
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So tell me how aiming to simplify gameplay is a good thing? I have no desire to buy $50 minigames that use 1 button.
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#44 gamespot813
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This is a good thread. I agree.
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#45 tool_rage
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Yeah, sorry for misleading the thread.

I only ever clocked up 4 or 5 hours with the GC Controller, I thought it was ok.

My favorite controller of last gen was definitely the Controller S. 

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#46 Willy105
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So tell me how aiming to simplify gameplay is a good thing? I have no desire to buy $50 minigames that use 1 button.Lazy_Boy88

You missed the point.

By simplifying it meant making the controller easier to use, not to make the games simpler.

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#47 CJL13
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[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]So tell me how aiming to simplify gameplay is a good thing? I have no desire to buy $50 minigames that use 1 button.Willy105

You missed the point.

By simplifying it meant making the controller easier to use, not to make the games simpler.

I found the GC controller harder to use.

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#48 osan0
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the GC controller was my fav last gen overall. it was really comfy to use and hold. definately the most ergonomic controller last gen imho. it did miss out on a few things though. lack of clickable thumb sticks was a bit annoying (i miss it on the nunchuck too) and there was no 4th button at the top. everything else was solid though.
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[QUOTE="Setsa"]If it isn t broken, don t fix it. I ll take the PS controller thx.Arnalion

 

Ehm. The PS controller has always been broken. It's un ergonomic and has misplaced analog sticks.

 

yes i agree the anologue stick placement on the PS pads suck 

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#50 tocool340
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

They sure weren't about "gampeplay" when they ran a taxi company. >_>

Sorry, couldn't resist. >_>

foxhound_fox



Bu...but... teh Love Hotel?!?

But they they were a Card company at first....