Proof that rdr on PS3 got gimped on purpose

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#1 gamewhat
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These words came out of a panel discussion with rockstar. So before you fanboys hate this is what was said by LoT: Some team members felt that the Xbox 360 "got a little more love from the start." So to all you fannies out there that think the 360 got the better version... well you're right. Not because your system is more powerful, but by choice. This has gone on a lot since 2006 so why stop now? http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=20182

Check out this article too Before I link it this is what got me the most: Well, the foliage is generated from transparent alpha textures and these are more expensive for the host hardware to draw. What a bunch of crackheads, Eurogamer lost all respect in saying that. It's embarrasing to those of us who know and it's a downright disgrace for system wars to use such a lie. Eurogamer...lies, lies, and lies. They lie as bad as sony did when they boasted about how powerful the ps3 was.http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-red-dead-redemption-face-off?page=2

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#2 clyde46
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This was well known from the start. Same with GTA4.

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#3 DJ_Lae
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And?
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#4 gamewhat
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This was well known from the start. Same with GTA4.

clyde46

No one could prove it though. I'm glad some one in san diego squealed. I always suspected it, but all the fanboy hate I had to listen to on how the ps3 can't do open world games got to the point is was annoying.

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#5 gamewhat
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And?DJ_Lae
and?

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#6 Espada12
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Wow! Sucks for me then! Was still a great game though!

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#7 vaderhater
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Second crack at it with the same engine.................nuff said

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#8 gamewhat
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Wow! Sucks for me then! Was still a great game though!

Espada12

It sucks when one version looks a generation better than the other. Glad you liked the game with the worst ending in video game history ever!

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#9 Respawn-d
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The gimped the ps3 version because more ppl own 360s. Nuff said.

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#12 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Wow! Sucks for me then! Was still a great game though!

gamewhat

It sucks when one version looks a generation better than the other. Glad you liked the game with the worst ending in video game history ever!

First, it does not look a generation better. Second, it most certainly does not have the worst endings. So what have we learned? You don't have RDR for the PS3 and you may not even have RDR.
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#13 gamewhat
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[QUOTE="gamewhat"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Wow! Sucks for me then! Was still a great game though!

vaderhater

It sucks when one version looks a generation better than the other. Glad you liked the game with the worst ending in video game history ever!

Grow up. And goodnight.

good night my little vader. Kissy, kissy.

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#14 Delsage
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Well that sucks, though not surprising. After all dev's have been doing this from the get go.
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Check out this article too Before I link it this is what got me the most: Well, the foliage is generated from transparent alpha textures and these are more expensive for the host hardware to draw. What a bunch of crackheads, Eurogamer lost all respect in saying that. It's embarrasing to those of us who know and it's a downright disgrace for system wars to use such a lie. Eurogamer...lies, lies, and lies. They lie as bad as sony did when they boasted about how powerful the es3 was.http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-red-dead-redemption-face-off?page=2

gamewhat

I'm not sure what it is you think you know, but you're wrong. Alpha-blending is very hard on the PS3's GPU, since it requires a lot of bandwidth (which the GPU's 128-bit bus doesn't have) and because it only has 8 ROPs. The 360 doesn't have this problem at all since blending is done in the eDRAM, which means it's not any more expensive than drawing opaque pixels. This is why just about every PS3 game draws particles at 1/4 (or lower) res.

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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]And?gamewhat

and?

It was rhetorical, I never expect logic out of System Wars.
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#18 gamewhat
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[QUOTE="gamewhat"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Wow! Sucks for me then! Was still a great game though!

mrmusicman247

It sucks when one version looks a generation better than the other. Glad you liked the game with the worst ending in video game history ever!

First, it does not look a generation better. Second, it most certainly does not have the worst endings. So what have we learned? You don't have RDR for the PS3 and you may not even have RDR.

For one, please keep ignorance where ignorance belongs. Two you don't know what I have and 3 if you want I will pm you and tell you how it all ended.

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#19 clyde46
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If it was gimped, why was it when I went into GAME to buy RDR, the PS3 version was sold out?

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#21 gamewhat
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If it was gimped, why was it when I went into GAME to buy RDR, the PS3 version was sold out?

clyde46

Good question. Your best bet would be to find some one who has done a survey or something along that line to let you find out the facts. I can't answer your question. If I do I'll pull a Eurogamer on you and lie.

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#22 treedoor
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I thought it was because teh cell

Teh cell needs to make teh 360 think it's powerful which would put teh 360 at peace. Then it can lure it into teh trap, and torture teh 360 till teh end of time.

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#23 GreySeal9
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I think the "PS3 can't do open world games" talking point is nonsense, but you're really blowing this article out of proportion.

First of all, it said that some team members felt that the 360 version got more love from the start. While thereisa fairchance that this is the case, it is the perception of some of the members of the team (not neccesarily gospel truth) and even if there perception is true, that doesn't equate to some conspiracy to gimp the PS3 version on purpose. It just means that the 360 version ended up getting more attention for whatever reason (and then you have to consider that the 360 is easier to develop for). It's likely that with most multiplats, one version is going to end up getting more attention. I don't see why you're making it out to sound like some big conspiracy.

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="gamewhat"]It sucks when one version looks a generation better than the other. Glad you liked the game with the worst ending in video game history ever!

gamewhat

First, it does not look a generation better. Second, it most certainly does not have the worst endings. So what have we learned? You don't have RDR for the PS3 and you may not even have RDR.

For one, please keep ignorance where ignorance belongs. Two you don't know what I have and 3 if you want I will pm you and tell you how it all ended.

Look. You made false statements simple as that. RDR does not look a generation better on the 360. And it does not have the worst ending.

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#25 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

If it was gimped, why was it when I went into GAME to buy RDR, the PS3 version was sold out?

gamewhat

Good question. Your best bet would be to find some one who has done a survey or something along that line to let you find out the facts. I can't answer your question. If I do I'll pull a Eurogamer on you and lie.

Wait a minute. Didn't Teufelhuhn all ready explain why you're wrong about that?

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#26 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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I've never seen so much controversy because one game can display more plants than the other...
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#27 dethroned3
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Second crack at it with the same engine.................nuff said

vaderhater

and what's your point?

your point is still invalid either way ;)

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="gamewhat"]It sucks when one version looks a generation better than the other. Glad you liked the game with the worst ending in video game history ever!

gamewhat

First, it does not look a generation better. Second, it most certainly does not have the worst endings. So what have we learned? You don't have RDR for the PS3 and you may not even have RDR.

For one, please keep ignorance where ignorance belongs. Two you don't know what I have and 3 if you want I will pm you and tell you how it all ended.

the only thing that's ignorant is your original post. btw, halo 2 has the worst ending.

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#29 RyanShazam
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Well i bought it for PS3 and i it looks and runs fine for me. Whats wrong with it?

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#30 delta3074
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These words came out of a panel discussion with rockstar. So before you fanboys hate this is what was said by LoT: Some team members felt that the Xbox 360 "got a little more love from the start." So to all you fannies out there that think the 360 got the better version... well you're right. Not because your system is more powerful, but by choice. This has gone on a lot since 2006 so why stop now? http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=20182

Check out this article too Before I link it this is what got me the most: Well, the foliage is generated from transparent alpha textures and these are more expensive for the host hardware to draw. What a bunch of crackheads, Eurogamer lost all respect in saying that. It's embarrasing to those of us who know and it's a downright disgrace for system wars to use such a lie. Eurogamer...lies, lies, and lies. They lie as bad as sony did when they boasted about how powerful the ps3 was.http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-red-dead-redemption-face-off?page=2

gamewhat
360 is better at alpha blending than the Ps3 "HDR, alpha-blending, and anti-aliasing require even more memory bandwidth. This is why Xbox 360 has 256 GB/s bandwidth reserved just for the frame buffer. This allows the Xbox 360 GPU to do Z testing, HDR, and alpha blended color rendering with 4X MSAA at full rate and still have the entire main bus bandwidth of 22.4 GB/s left over for textures and vertices" http://www.itvidya.com/playstation_3_vs_xbox_360 .
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#31 adamlovesu
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this is how it will be for the rest of this gen...... the fact is that devs dont have the time nor cash to cater to the blu ray drive... it was a mistake on sonys part imo and they should have waited for other companys to ease blu ray into market instead of forcing it on devs ... its led to nothign but screen tearing,framerate problems, bad quality...

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#32 treedoor
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Well i bought it for PS3 and i it looks and runs fine for me. Whats wrong with it?

RyanShazam

Don't you know graphics are everything?

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#34 adamlovesu
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Well i bought it for PS3 and i it looks and runs fine for me. Whats wrong with it?

Don't you know graphics are everything?

why do you play on pc again??
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#35 clyde46
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[QUOTE="adamlovesu"][QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Well i bought it for PS3 and i it looks and runs fine for me. Whats wrong with it?

Don't you know graphics are everything?

why do you play on pc again??

Sarcasm much?
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#36 normal_gamer
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Well i bought it for PS3 and i it looks and runs fine for me. Whats wrong with it?

treedoor

Don't you know graphics are everything?

No,da foliage is everything here on SW. :P
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Fail, we know the PS3 SHOULD be more powerful. Too bad it's that much harder and obviously R* didn't think it was worthwhile..... :( sorry if I hurt your feelings.
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#38 Bigboi500
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Oh well, it's too bad that I didn't care when I was playing the "gimped" version. Woe is me.

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#39 SparkyProtocol
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I thought it was because teh cell

Teh cell needs to make teh 360 think it's powerful which would put teh 360 at peace. Then it can lure it into teh trap, and torture teh 360 till teh end of time.

treedoor
I chuckled then broke out into a big laugh.
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#40 dethroned3
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[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

[QUOTE="gamewhat"]For one, please keep ignorance where ignorance belongs. Two you don't know what I have and 3 if you want I will pm you and tell you how it all ended.

adamlovesu

the only thing that's ignorant is your original post. btw, halo 2 has the worst ending.

i smell fanboy butthurt.... rdr ending is bad.... i own it on 360 and ps3....... halo 2s ending was epic hence why halo 3 has a storyline =P

u own it on 360 and ps3?
1. you're spoilt, that's for sure
2. i'm a fanboy, of what?
3. i'm buthurt about what? i loved the first two halos, and i bought a 360 just so i could freaken play halo3.

so, please answer my questions.
k thanx bye
;)

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#41 adamlovesu
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[QUOTE="adamlovesu"][QUOTE="dethroned3"]

the only thing that's ignorant is your original post. btw, halo 2 has the worst ending.

dethroned3

i smell fanboy butthurt.... rdr ending is bad.... i own it on 360 and ps3....... halo 2s ending was epic hence why halo 3 has a storyline =P

u own it on 360 and ps3?
1. you're spoilt, that's for sure
2. i'm a fanboy, of what?
3. i'm buthurt about what? i loved the first two halos, and i bought a 360 just so i could freaken play halo3.

so, please answer my questions.
k thanx bye
;)

you immediatly jump in arguing about how rdr isnt bad on ps3 and than someone said the ending is bad.... knowing this is a 360 + thread you then said well halo 2s ending was bad..... answers?

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[QUOTE="adamlovesu"][QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Well i bought it for PS3 and i it looks and runs fine for me. Whats wrong with it?

Don't you know graphics are everything?

why do you play on pc again??

He probably plays on PC because he has the option of mouse and keyboard, and not just better graphics. Also, the mods, dedicated servers, etc. Mouse and keyboard is one of the biggest factors for me. If I could use M/K on consoles, I'd probably play them more.
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[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

[QUOTE="adamlovesu"] i smell fanboy butthurt.... rdr ending is bad.... i own it on 360 and ps3....... halo 2s ending was epic hence why halo 3 has a storyline =Padamlovesu

u own it on 360 and ps3?
1. you're spoilt, that's for sure
2. i'm a fanboy, of what?
3. i'm buthurt about what? i loved the first two halos, and i bought a 360 just so i could freaken play halo3.

so, please answer my questions.
k thanx bye
;)

you immediatly jump in arguing about how rdr isnt bad on ps3 and than someone said the ending is bad.... knowing this is a 360 + thread you then said well halo 2s ending was bad..... answers?


wrong wrong wrong!

"you immediatly jump in arguing about how rdr isnt bad on ps3?"
where did i say that?

i was attacking the other guy for being rude. and halo 2's ending was criticised by nearly everyone during the time, you would know that if you werent living under a rock.

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#44 adamlovesu
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[QUOTE="adamlovesu"][QUOTE="treedoor"]

Don't you know graphics are everything?

DragonfireXZ95

why do you play on pc again??

He probably plays on PC because he has the option of mouse and keyboard, and not just better graphics. Also, the mods, dedicated servers, etc. Mouse and keyboard is one of the biggest factors for me. If I could use M/K on consoles, I'd probably play them more.

with ps3 you can.... and the main reason average users play on pc is because of the above 1080 p graphs... the mouse is nice but thats just a controller preference.

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#50 Warriorboy1990
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At least the PS3 version got exclusive content.