PS Vita digital download titles sold at 10% discount, Thats It?

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#1 PSP107
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Physical copies will still be cheaper.

1. Retailers fight each other by having sales on games.

2. You can sell your games

with that said, im with Nodoze. 10% is nothing.

PSV games are what, $10-$50 so saving $1-$5 is more expensive than waiting for a price drop at retail or reselling your games.

The prices of the memory card probably won't really offset the discount price would it?

http://news.punchjump.com/2012/02/24/ps-vita-digital-download-titles-sold-at-10-discount/

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#2 SaltyMeatballs
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Indeed it is almost pointless.
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#3 SW__Troll
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'tis better than nothing

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#4 Zophar87
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'tis better than nothing

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Pretty much. Don't like it? Don't use it.

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#5 xKeiji
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Did you forget about no taxes?
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#6 CanYouDiglt
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Plus I am sure the price at stores will lower much faster then the digital download version.
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#7 HaloPimp978
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Physical copies are better anyways. That just seems like a ripoff to me.
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#8 MFDOOM1983
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Meanwhile 3 major retailers had buy 2 get 1 free sales on vita launch titles.
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#9 p4s2p0
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I'm thinking physical will load a little faster too as a big memory card with a lot on it tends to get fragmented.
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#10 VanDammFan
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are people thankful for anything these days? complain about every d&*n thing..

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#11 nickydanooz
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Its still 10% off...also you save the time, effort, gas money, ect. from going to the store/mall to buy the physical game..

Its called oppertunity cost my friend.

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#12 campzor
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1.wipeout is currently cheaper on psn than any store in australia. 2. i dont sell my games 3. 10% is better than 0% 4. lol @ carrying 50 vita cards around
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#13 ShadowriverUB
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What you expected? 50%? :p
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#14 AmazonTreeBoa
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Did you forget about no taxes?xKeiji
Buying the hard copy is also tax free if bought from the right places like Newegg.
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#16 110million
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10% is certainly better than nothing. I'd like it to be a bigger discount, but even steam uses retail prices regularly, so if the greatest service doesn't have a discount, what can you expect.
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#17 RandomWinner
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Its better than nothing, and what is currently available on PSN and XBL, who are charging way more than the games they are selling are still worth. 20% discount seems more fitting, but I'm not wasting the space on my card.

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#18 ShadowDeathX
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Did you forget about no taxes?xKeiji
That is dependent on where you live.
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#19 nitekids2004
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There should be a balance between digital and retail prices.

10-15% is enough of a discount imo.

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#20 PSP107
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[QUOTE="nickydanooz"]

Its still 10% off...also you save the time, effort, gas money, ect. from going to the store/mall to buy the physical game..

Its called oppertunity cost my friend.

1. in the hood, there is a Gamestop on every corner 2. Those who uses PSN cards will have use the time and gas to get them.
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#21 ActicEdge
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Should really be closer to 25-30 percent off. Saving 4 bucks or so is not real savings vs retail.

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#22 mynamesdenvrmax
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Meh. Sony has lost its mind since the PS3 released. Everything they've done has seemed off to me. Its like they're scrambling to be everyones best friend but cant do anything right. I honestly feel like the Vita will have very little support in the next 2 years. This US release was really sad, its at a strange point in the year and the console itself just doesnt make sense for anyone other than hardcore Sony fans. The Vita looked great until it was up close. The UI is clunky, the start up is slow, the games are too expensive, the memory cards are outrageous and the battery doesnt last long enough to make it worth it. The Vita is only there for hardcore Sony fans and people who have to get the latest tech then forget about it after a month.

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#23 zarshack
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Prices in australia vary a fair bit but at retailers atm games like Dynasty warrios/Ninja Gaiden Sigma plus/rayman origins are $59-$68 and are $47.95 on the PSN. but then Uncharted is $62.95 on PS and FiFA is $69.95 but both are also $59-$68 at retail

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#24 SolidSnake35
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Meh. Sony has lost its mind since the PS3 released. Everything they've done has seemed off to me. Its like they're scrambling to be everyones best friend but cant do anything right. I honestly feel like the Vita will have very little support in the next 2 years. This US release was really sad, its at a strange point in the year and the console itself just doesnt make sense for anyone other than hardcore Sony fans. The Vita looked great until it was up close. The UI is clunky, the start up is slow, the games are too expensive, the memory cards are outrageous and the battery doesnt last long enough to make it worth it. The Vita is only there for hardcore Sony fans and people who have to get the latest tech then forget about it after a month.

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The UI is great. Have you even used it? The startup is no longer than any other console or PC. The games are no more expensive then 3DS games. I got my memory card for free. The battery is the same as the PSP's. What would you be expecting?
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#26 PSP107
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What you expected? 50%? :pShadowriverUB
is that your cat?
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#27 PSP107
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@SolidSnake35 do you mean the same as the 1st gen PSP? cause im sure the vita's battery life isnt the same as PSP 3000.
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#28 OreoMilkshake
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4. lol @ carrying 50 vita cards aroundcampzor
I don't get this argument. Why not just carry the games you actually feel like playing when you're gone for while?
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#29 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"]4. lol @ carrying 50 vita cards aroundOreoMilkshake
I don't get this argument. Why not just carry the games you actually feel like playing when you're gone for while?

because i would want to play ALL my games ive bought for the system and not having to choose which to bring when i could bring them all. Not that it affects me that much...as i usually game at home... but its more convenient to have them all in 1 place. And what if i misplace a game and i lose it? I can just redownload it again. Im sure other ppl can list other reasons
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#30 SW__Troll
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="campzor"]4. lol @ carrying 50 vita cards aroundcampzor
I don't get this argument. Why not just carry the games you actually feel like playing when you're gone for while?

because i would want to play ALL my games ive bought for the system and not having to choose which to bring when i could bring them all. Not that it affects me that much...as i usually game at home... but its more convenient to have them all in 1 place. And what if i misplace a game and i lose it? I can just redownload it again. Im sure other ppl can list other reasons

Yah, I agree a digital library sounds like the best option for handheld gaming, however I've never known PSN for dropping the price on games. I don't know how many times I checked my PSP for a title to download only to see games at full retail price. They weren't even new in a lot of cases.....

Then you just go to Best Buy, and buy it for $10.....

I wish Sony, as well as MS and Nintendo, would take some notes from Steam and have much better deals far more often.

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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="campzor"]4. lol @ carrying 50 vita cards aroundcampzor
I don't get this argument. Why not just carry the games you actually feel like playing when you're gone for while?

because i would want to play ALL my games ive bought for the system and not having to choose which to bring when i could bring them all. Not that it affects me that much...as i usually game at home... but its more convenient to have them all in 1 place. And what if i misplace a game and i lose it? I can just redownload it again. Im sure other ppl can list other reasons

I wouldn't say i need 50 games on the go.

Usually when i travel i take with me 4-5 games if i am traveling. With the Vita cards being very small i can tell you i'd lose the games somehow. There is something to keep into account as to which type of consumer you are. for me i tend to pick up games i really really want and buy day 1. I'm not the biggest handheld gamer so i buy fewer games for them, but of the games that i want, i REALLY want it. so a 10% discount is a nice addition when buying day 1. (plus we all know that Sony EVENTUALLY drops the price of the games, they should be more competitive in that regard).

I can speak from personal experience that on two separate occasions i have lost DS games, ironically it was the same game twice... "Advanced Wars : Days of Ruin". Once on an airplane and the other time on a city bus.

Also my DS collection peaked at 10 games, These were the games I REALLY wanted to play on the go. technically 11, but i don't count the "Chinese coach" a game so to speak :P.

My PSP collection peaked at 14 games in the 2 years i owned one, 2 of them free from the PSN welcome back deal.

I'm picking up a 3DS next week and but in this case i can only pick up the cards. If 3DS was like Vita in that i could download the games, trust me... i would. Plus I rarely sell off my games. For consoles i tend to always buy hard copies, for handhelds i am comfortable with digital.

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10% is certainly better than nothing. I'd like it to be a bigger discount, but even steam uses retail prices regularly, so if the greatest service doesn't have a discount, what can you expect. 110million
Yeah, I don't understand this... Don't want to pay 10%, that's fine by me. I'll take it. In the end, it will add up to being cheaper if you bought all your games day one, and got a 10% discount. For me, that's pretty much the price of tax right there, but if it goes by MSRP, that's still a couple extra bucks towards some DLC or new game in the future.
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#33 DJ_Headshot
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A bit better then what retail games on other DD platform cost. Retail pc games on steam are usually the same price at launch as a physical copy there's usually a 10%-20% preoder bonus for games but that's it you usually won't see $50 games at retail starting out at less then that as the base price on steam. The difference of course is in the the epic sales. Publishers/devlopers really take advantage of the freedom that DD offers on pricing on steam. When a games sales start to drop off they slash the price drawing in additional sales. The prices for games drop much faster then retail and reach much lower then prices then would be possible at retail while still making money. If a game from the past year or 2 is selling for $15 or less brand new in a store it likely did horribly in sales not true for pc games where selling for $15 or less is pretty much the norm for a game after being out for a year or two and games do eventualy end up being on sale for only a few dollars.

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#34 yoshi_64
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Should really be closer to 25-30 percent off. Saving 4 bucks or so is not real savings vs retail.

ActicEdge

Let's say you buy a Vita game, retailing for $39.99. On PSN, for your 10% discount, it comes out to saving $3.99 per game or rounded up to $4. Now over a year, you end up maybe buying... let's say 5 or 6 Vita games (sounds reasonable.) Now for retail, you buy them at the MSRP of $39.99 + Tax. Where I live, Tax is 8.75%

So my Vita game, if sold at the MSRP of $39.99 will cost me $39.99(8.75%) = $43.48 x 6 games = $260.88

If I get my 10% discount, I will buy each game at $35.99 x 6 games = $215.94. Now, the difference between $260.88 - $215.94 = $44. 94. Now, if you don't noticed, that's another game entirely for the Vita, or a bunch of DLC content. Look at it how you will, but to me, that's a deal. I think it's worth it, but if you don't, that's fine. Spend more money.

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#35 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]I don't get this argument. Why not just carry the games you actually feel like playing when you're gone for while?SW__Troll

because i would want to play ALL my games ive bought for the system and not having to choose which to bring when i could bring them all. Not that it affects me that much...as i usually game at home... but its more convenient to have them all in 1 place. And what if i misplace a game and i lose it? I can just redownload it again. Im sure other ppl can list other reasons

Yah, I agree a digital library sounds like the best option for handheld gaming, however I've never known PSN for dropping the price on games. I don't know how many times I checked my PSP for a title to download only to see games at full retail price. They weren't even new in a lot of cases.....

Then you just go to Best Buy, and buy it for $10.....

I wish Sony, as well as MS and Nintendo, would take some notes from Steam and have much better deals far more often.

havnt really checked out prices for psp games till recently...but i know they have given discounts for ps3 games. I bought for my vita gta: vice city stories for $11 (AU) which was on i believe 50% price cut.
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[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="campzor"] because i would want to play ALL my games ive bought for the system and not having to choose which to bring when i could bring them all. Not that it affects me that much...as i usually game at home... but its more convenient to have them all in 1 place. And what if i misplace a game and i lose it? I can just redownload it again. Im sure other ppl can list other reasonscampzor

Yah, I agree a digital library sounds like the best option for handheld gaming, however I've never known PSN for dropping the price on games. I don't know how many times I checked my PSP for a title to download only to see games at full retail price. They weren't even new in a lot of cases.....

Then you just go to Best Buy, and buy it for $10.....

I wish Sony, as well as MS and Nintendo, would take some notes from Steam and have much better deals far more often.

havnt really checked out prices for psp games till recently...but i know they have given discounts for ps3 games. I bought for my vita gta: vice city stories for $11 (AU) which was on i believe 50% price cut.

A game like Ace Combat : Joint Assault which retails for as low as $10 bucks in some places is still $40 bucks.

This is a game that came out on August 31st, 2010. about a year and a half ago.

It's also not a major hit game series either, just one that can keep chugging along. It's one of my favorite series and it's one of the reasons i'm holding on picking it up for my Vita, because it COULD be any day now that Sony will cut the price.

This is the major problem that Sony, and Microsoft/Nintendo have, they're games do not lower in price like brick and mortor game stores or like Steam does. If the big three were more competitive there is no doubt that they would end up seeing more profit.

In the dawn of the mobile game phones, i'm hoping Sony will get the message. hoping that is. the 10% discount is a sign of how they want to shift their business model, which will be fine if your a day 1 buyer (more often not someone like me), but it doesn't help them for those who wait for others to drop prices.

They do do price drops, Assassin's Creed : Bloodlines is 20 bucks, which to me... is a fair price. but still it should not take as long as it does.

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I don't get this. It's EXACTLY the same thing with steam and origin. It's optional anyway..
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4. lol @ carrying 50 vita cards aroundcampzor

good luck getting 50 vita games on a memory card. Unless you are going to buy several, at which point you have to factor in the cost of extra cards.

At any rate retail games tend to get discounted often, especially if you buy online. If buying used is your thing, retail prices are lower still. I think I'll stick to retail.

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#39 PSP107
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[QUOTE="campzor"]4. lol @ carrying 50 vita cards aroundOreoMilkshake
I don't get this argument. Why not just carry the games you actually feel like playing when you're gone for while?

I never liked that argument either during the PSGo vs PSP 3000 debate.
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#40 hap111
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If you lose your Vita handheld and its games, would you be able to redownload them on another Vita if you went all digital? That's a pretty big advantage of digital to me...

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#41 Gxgear
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With a handheld, digital downloads ties in with the convenience factor. I don't want to carry a bunch of cartridges when I'm mobile, even though I would want to switch games in between. I don't buy or sell used games, so that doesn't concern me at all. If there's something I really like on Vita, I'll still pick up a hardcopy.

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#42 PSP107
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If you lose your Vita handheld and its games, would you be able to redownload them on another Vita if you went all digital? That's a pretty big advantage of digital to me...

hap111
i doubt people lose there games enough to go all digital.
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#43 phantomblade220
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Some people really need to take some business courses.

Look is 10% the greatest discount? Obviously not, but its good enough, and probably the most Sony and 3rd party publishers could take off a digital download.

What do you think Walmart, Gamestop, Best Buy, Target, etc do if Uncharted Golden Abyss was 35 bucks digital, and 50 bucks retail. Honestly think about it. Some of you guys need to use your heads and then you'll see what 10% is the most realistic offer you can expect AT LAUNCH.

Obviously when the library grows and expands and time elapses, I'd love to see good amount of weekly sales and such, but if your complaining about Day 1 digital prices, then your crazy. Like I said, use your head.

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Even at a discount, I was surprised to see that Rayman: Origins on Vita costs more than the other console versions.

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#45 illmatic8582
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I feel digital download is much better. Not only are the games 10% cheaper but you also save moeny on taxes bc PSN doesn't tax me. Also just the convience of carrying your games cannot be beat. I understand why some people do not like it because it is more expensive and gaming is an expesive hobby as is, but if you can afford it and do not like saving your games, than I would definately download games.

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#46 phantomblade220
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Even at a discount, I was surprised to see that Rayman: Origins on Vita costs more than the other console versions.

Bigboi500

I think its because it flopped sales wise on the consoles, so retailers started slashing the price. For some reason people think 2D platformers aren't worth 60 bucks on a console. These type of games tend to sell better when they're either really cheap (obv) or if they're on a handheld.

I can honestly say I had no interest in Rayman on console, but it does interest me on Vita. Why is that? Idk lol.

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#47 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Even at a discount, I was surprised to see that Rayman: Origins on Vita costs more than the other console versions.

phantomblade220

I think its because it flopped sales wise on the consoles, so retailers started slashing the price. For some reason people think 2D platformers aren't worth 60 bucks on a console. These type of games tend to sell better when they're either really cheap (obv) or if they're on a handheld.

I can honestly say I had no interest in Rayman on console, but it does interest me on Vita. Why is that? Idk lol.

The game is AMAZING no matter which system you get it on, just get it. :P

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[QUOTE="phantomblade220"]

Some people really need to take some business courses.

Look is 10% the greatest discount? Obviously not, but its good enough, and probably the most Sony and 3rd party publishers could take off a digital download.

What do you think Walmart, Gamestop, Best Buy, Target, etc do if Uncharted Golden Abyss was 35 bucks digital, and 50 bucks retail. Honestly think about it. Some of you guys need to use your heads and then you'll see what 10% is the most realistic offer you can expect AT LAUNCH.

Obviously when the library grows and expands and time elapses, I'd love to see good amount of weekly sales and such, but if your complaining about Day 1 digital prices, then your crazy. Like I said, use your head.

why dont use your head. The production cost on digital downloads is far more cheaper than retail considering there is no box arts, manuals, retalier cuts etc. Sony is clearing testing the current model. And like I said before, does the price of the memory cards really offset the 10% in long run? And again use your head, retaliers are always slashing their prices to compete with each other. Correct me if im wrong but isnt digital games only available on PSN?
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#49 Tikeio
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Even at a discount, I was surprised to see that Rayman: Origins on Vita costs more than the other console versions.

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I think its because it flopped sales wise on the consoles, so retailers started slashing the price. For some reason people think 2D platformers aren't worth 60 bucks on a console, unless it's Mario, Donkey Kong or LBP.

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[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="phantomblade220"]

Some people really need to take some business courses.

Look is 10% the greatest discount? Obviously not, but its good enough, and probably the most Sony and 3rd party publishers could take off a digital download.

What do you think Walmart, Gamestop, Best Buy, Target, etc do if Uncharted Golden Abyss was 35 bucks digital, and 50 bucks retail. Honestly think about it. Some of you guys need to use your heads and then you'll see what 10% is the most realistic offer you can expect AT LAUNCH.

Obviously when the library grows and expands and time elapses, I'd love to see good amount of weekly sales and such, but if your complaining about Day 1 digital prices, then your crazy. Like I said, use your head.

why dont use your head. The production cost on digital downloads is far more cheaper than retail considering there is no box arts, manuals, retalier cuts etc. Sony is clearing testing the current model. And like I said before, does the price of the memory cards really offset the 10% in long run? And again use your head, retaliers are always slashing their prices to compete with each other. Correct me if im wrong but isnt digital games only available on PSN?

that makes sense. except when you come into the fray of pissing off retailers. retailers don't really make money on the machine, they make it off the games they carry, not to mention it increases foot traffic in their stores. if Sony slashed the price of digital games to half (which they could with most of the launch titles) most people would figured that the overpriced memory sticks were an investment, bought the machine and stick and never returned to Gamestop/WalMart/KMart/Target etc. because they could simply get teh game much much cheaper on day 1 then they could at a retailer. This would indeed take out a good chunk of consumers away from the brick and mortor stores. and if anyone wants to see what happens when you go all digital look at the PSP Go, some retailers in Europe flat out refused to carry it at launch. Granted the PSP Go was over priced and not very well supported but going all digital will have incur the wrath of retailers. Sony's issue will be keeping the price low to match retailers. I don't think they have to do it like Amazon.com which is always matching others, but it shouldn't take 2+ years or a random date for a digital game to see a price cut.