PS Vita Picked Up Some Speed ( 160,000 Sales) Can It Keep Rolling??

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#1 ms555
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This isnt the first topic reporting black fridy sales , but i just wanted to point out vita specifically So vita didnt beat 3ds sales, and nobody really expects it too. But vita actually did pretty damn well for black friday. This is contrary to several threads i saw in this forum previously thinking vita did piss poor. 160,000 sales. Its not OMG mind blowing but its no doubt impressive News is reporting the vita bundles sold out almost everywhere. Amazon sold out of all their vita bundles. And i will say just in terms of my county that many vita games are actually sold out. This stuff shoudnt come as a surpise, the black friday deals for vita were very attractive. So a quick congrats to vita, if it maintains this kinda momentum the vita i honestly think should be fine. Vita actually got a pretty decent number of games this xmas and its got some pretty good games already announced for 2013. Its not catching up to 3ds sales and it never will but i think thats something everyone has come to accept. SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS, the vita did well here but is this the beginning of a turn around for vita or did vita simply get lucky for this moment only?
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#2 CaseyWegner
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black friday doesn't really indicate momentum. the next sales report will certainly be lower.

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#3 SUD123456
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It's on track to sell less than half a million units over the holiday period in the biggest market.

Hooray...I mean, thud.

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#4 freedomfreak
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Sure. If Black Friday is throughout the whole year.
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It's on track to sell less than half a million units over the holiday period in the biggest market.

Hooray...I mean, thud.

SUD123456
Im not the only one praising the sales, its unanimous amongst most news sites this was pretty strong performance. Its not like the 3ds sales during black friday BLASTED vita sales away. 3ds sold 240,000, not even double the vita sales. They are both doing pretty well tho. They are handhelds, what u gonna expect haha
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#6 ms555
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Sure. If Black Friday is throughout the whole year.

Keeping the momentum doesnt quite mean its gotta keep selling 160,000 units a week haha. The vita sales never really took speed , but now its finally rolling. Maybe my wording was a bit vague, but by keeping momentum i mean will it keep rolling or is it just gonna screech to a halt and sell terribly again
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Sure. If Black Friday is throughout the whole year.

Keeping the momentum doesnt quite mean its gotta keep selling 160,000 units a week haha. The vita sales never really took speed , but now its finally rolling. Maybe my wording was a bit vague, but by keeping momentum i mean will it keep rolling or is it just gonna screech to a halt and sell terribly again

I don't know. Maybe the people that wanted one for that price snatched it while they could. Guess we'll have to wait and see. I sure hope it will start selling better.
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#8 SUD123456
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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

It's on track to sell less than half a million units over the holiday period in the biggest market.

Hooray...I mean, thud.

ms555

Im not the only one praising the sales, its unanimous amongst most news sites this was pretty strong performance. Its not like the 3ds sales during black friday BLASTED vita sales away. 3ds sold 240,000, not even double the vita sales. They are both doing pretty well tho. They are handhelds, what u gonna expect haha

What I expect is for Sony to downgrade their Vita sales forecast for the FY yet again come January.:P

And the comparison to the 3DS isn't particularly helpful since those numbers are also weaksauce.

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#9 Thefatness16
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No, this was an anomaly. It'll drop off again. After the holidays, it'll fall down to 50k month.

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#10 ms555
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

It's on track to sell less than half a million units over the holiday period in the biggest market.

Hooray...I mean, thud.

SUD123456

Im not the only one praising the sales, its unanimous amongst most news sites this was pretty strong performance. Its not like the 3ds sales during black friday BLASTED vita sales away. 3ds sold 240,000, not even double the vita sales. They are both doing pretty well tho. They are handhelds, what u gonna expect haha

What I expect is for Sony to downgrade their Vita sales forecast for the FY yet again come January.:P

And the comparison to the 3DS isn't particularly helpful since those numbers are also weaksauce.

Eh, i wouldnt call them weak sauce. For handhelds, and rather expensive ones at that during ipod generation, those are pretty good numbers for both 3ds and vita
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#11 Grawse
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No. Not until a pice drop at least. Hopefully Sony bites the bullet to get more units off shelves and lowers the price to 200.
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#12 CanYouDiglt
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160k for its first Black Friday is actually pretty bad.
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#13 2Chalupas
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Doubt it, 160,000 ins't even really that impressive of a number. This is the "big surge" and it's still barely 2 million units annual pace, but of course the Vita won't even sniff 1 million for the year. I mean it could have been worse, at least it's a nice bump up in the installed base. But I don't really think 160,000 moves the needle very much. They need to get their install base up in much larger increments in a hurry or this system will be dead in 2 years (I think Sony will not allow it to die for at least 1 year, but after 2 years I could see it being dead if sales and support don't pick up for 2013).
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#14 PSP107
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160k for its first Black Friday is actually pretty bad.CanYouDiglt

They can get those numbers and then some if they offically lower the price of Vita. Black Friday is only 2 days.

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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="ms555"] Im not the only one praising the sales, its unanimous amongst most news sites this was pretty strong performance. Its not like the 3ds sales during black friday BLASTED vita sales away. 3ds sold 240,000, not even double the vita sales. They are both doing pretty well tho. They are handhelds, what u gonna expect hahams555

What I expect is for Sony to downgrade their Vita sales forecast for the FY yet again come January.:P

And the comparison to the 3DS isn't particularly helpful since those numbers are also weaksauce.

Eh, i wouldnt call them weak sauce. For handhelds, and rather expensive ones at that during ipod generation, those are pretty good numbers for both 3ds and vita

They are crap numbers.

Here is what you need to know.

Sony FY 2011 combined PSP + Vita actual sales = 6.8 million units

Sony FY 2012 Forecast PSP + Vita sales as of May = 16 million units

Sony FY 2012 Forecast downgrade as of August = 12 million units

Sony FY 2012 Forecast downgrade # 2 as of October = 10 million units

Sony FY 2012 Actual sales for April thru Sept = 3.0 million units

Sony needs a huge holidays showing to come any where near its latest forecast.

160 K units over Black Friday is not huge, especially given that this is the first holiday the Vita has been on the market in the US.

Another forecast downgrade will be incoming in January.

[spoiler] But hey, its not so bad if you keep lowering the bar for forecast expectations. LMAO [/spoiler]

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#16 ms555
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160k for its first Black Friday is actually pretty bad.CanYouDiglt
Im not 100% sure personally what would be considered amazing sales for a hanheld. But news outlets are calling 160k STRONG in this case actually. Go check ign for example, or google news
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#17 moistsandwich
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Sure. If Black Friday is throughout the whole year.ms555
Keeping the momentum doesnt quite mean its gotta keep selling 160,000 units a week haha. The vita sales never really took speed , but now its finally rolling. Maybe my wording was a bit vague, but by keeping momentum i mean will it keep rolling or is it just gonna screech to a halt and sell terribly again

So not having the 3DS outsell the Vita by at least 2x more, is now considered a win for Sony?

.... so sad. :D

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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Sure. If Black Friday is throughout the whole year.moistsandwich

Keeping the momentum doesnt quite mean its gotta keep selling 160,000 units a week haha. The vita sales never really took speed , but now its finally rolling. Maybe my wording was a bit vague, but by keeping momentum i mean will it keep rolling or is it just gonna screech to a halt and sell terribly again

So not having the 3DS outsell the Vita by at least 2x more, is now considered a win for Sony?

.... so sad. :D

Umm, the 3DS is on pace to outsell the DS....selling half that is a great accomplishment.

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#19 ms555
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Sure. If Black Friday is throughout the whole year.moistsandwich

Keeping the momentum doesnt quite mean its gotta keep selling 160,000 units a week haha. The vita sales never really took speed , but now its finally rolling. Maybe my wording was a bit vague, but by keeping momentum i mean will it keep rolling or is it just gonna screech to a halt and sell terribly again

So not having the 3DS outsell the Vita by at least 2x more, is now considered a win for Sony?

.... so sad. :D

Who said sony only succeeds if they beat nintendo?!
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]160k for its first Black Friday is actually pretty bad.ms555
Im not 100% sure personally what would be considered amazing sales for a hanheld. But news outlets are calling 160k STRONG in this case actually. Go check ign for example, or google news

Strong...for the system itself which is still bad in general. I think IGN said the original DS out sold it by atleast 100k although i'm not certain on that. Regardless the original DS outselling it certainly isn't good.

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#21 ultraking
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Good numbers. I'm glad more people will get to experience the awesomeness of the vita
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#22 windytrail
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Where are you getting your numbers? Vita sold 160,000 last week in all markets. 3DS sold over 600,000

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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]160k for its first Black Friday is actually pretty bad.TwistedShade

Im not 100% sure personally what would be considered amazing sales for a hanheld. But news outlets are calling 160k STRONG in this case actually. Go check ign for example, or google news

Strong...for the system itself which is still bad in general. I think IGN said the original DS out sold it by atleast 100k although i'm not certain on that. Regardless the original DS outselling it certainly isn't good.

The system is bad in general? please stop talking out your ass.
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160,000 units sold in the biggest retail week in the year is not impressive man, no matter how hard you spin it. As far as sales are concerned, the system is dead. I mean, during the biggest shopping month of the year, ONLY 160,000 people in the ENTIRE COUNTRY decided to pick it up.
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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

It's on track to sell less than half a million units over the holiday period in the biggest market.

Hooray...I mean, thud.

ms555
Im not the only one praising the sales, its unanimous amongst most news sites this was pretty strong performance. Its not like the 3ds sales during black friday BLASTED vita sales away. 3ds sold 240,000, not even double the vita sales. They are both doing pretty well tho. They are handhelds, what u gonna expect haha

The 3DS did 250,000 units. And wait till we get the numbers for the full month... the 3DS will have outsold Vita 3:1 or something.
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[QUOTE="TwistedShade"]

[QUOTE="ms555"] Im not 100% sure personally what would be considered amazing sales for a hanheld. But news outlets are calling 160k STRONG in this case actually. Go check ign for example, or google newsjoel_c17

Strong...for the system itself which is still bad in general. I think IGN said the original DS out sold it by atleast 100k although i'm not certain on that. Regardless the original DS outselling it certainly isn't good.

The system is bad in general? please stop talking out your ass.

He's talking about Vita's sales. SALES. It should be clear since this is a sales thread. No one is denying that the Vita is a pretty sweet piece of hardware (possibly the best Sony has ever made, actually)
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#27 ms555
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[QUOTE="joel_c17"][QUOTE="TwistedShade"]Strong...for the system itself which is still bad in general. I think IGN said the original DS out sold it by atleast 100k although i'm not certain on that. Regardless the original DS outselling it certainly isn't good.charizard1605
The system is bad in general? please stop talking out your ass.

He's talking about Vita's sales. SALES. It should be clear since this is a sales thread. No one is denying that the Vita is a pretty sweet piece of hardware (possibly the best Sony has ever made, actually)

Charizard does have a point , this is a sales thread haha. Glad u can at least understnd sales dont reflect quality here with the vita And charizard as i stated, im only calling these numbers good becuse news outlets (who know more than i do) are saying 160k is an impressive number. I mean would u consider the 250 and 400 from 3ds and wii u weak?
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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

It's on track to sell less than half a million units over the holiday period in the biggest market.

Hooray...I mean, thud.

ms555
Im not the only one praising the sales, its unanimous amongst most news sites this was pretty strong performance. Its not like the 3ds sales during black friday BLASTED vita sales away. 3ds sold 240,000, not even double the vita sales. They are both doing pretty well tho. They are handhelds, what u gonna expect haha

240 k is nearly double and so what , 3ds still beat it , which means vita is not cutting into the large gap that 3ds created lol and it lost more ground thank you one week and it will go back to normal
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I am expecting sales to be even worse. Back to 300 and what little demand it had is now gone.
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

It's on track to sell less than half a million units over the holiday period in the biggest market.

Hooray...I mean, thud.

charizard1605

Im not the only one praising the sales, its unanimous amongst most news sites this was pretty strong performance. Its not like the 3ds sales during black friday BLASTED vita sales away. 3ds sold 240,000, not even double the vita sales. They are both doing pretty well tho. They are handhelds, what u gonna expect haha

The 3DS did 250,000 units. And wait till we get the numbers for the full month... the 3DS will have outsold Vita 3:1 or something.

Not to mention, sony went hard with the vita (and in general) on BF at multiple retailers. it's suprising they didn't sell more.

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#31 lamprey263
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at this rate I think Sony will be lucky to sell half their target 10 million by the end of the fiscal year
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#32 Kjranu
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The Vita has got a market of 70 million. The market just needs convincing with quality titles on the Vita and if Sony succeeds the Vita will start selling like hotcakes. Otherwise... there's no real reason for people who bought a PSP to upgrade to a Vita.
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What sony needs to do; 1. Price drop to around 200 dollars 2. Get some developers who know what they are doing to make a COD / online shooter game. 3. ??? 4. Profit oh and more advertising. Its actually surprising how many adds i see in australia but im assuming it doesnt get much advertising love in the US
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What sony needs to do; 1. Price drop to around 200 dollars 2. Get some developers who know what they are doing to make a COD / online shooter game. 3. ??? 4. Profit oh and more advertising. Its actually surprising how many adds i see in australia but im assuming it doesnt get much advertising love in the USjoel_c17
The price drop is needed and Killzone should be that online shooter it needs. If Killzone fail they're going to have a hard time. As far as ads go, I see CoD Declassified ads as well as ACIII Liberation ads quite frequently.

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No way is it keeping that momentum without developers putting high-demand games on the platform.

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#36 rjdofu
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No, 160000 mainly because the bundle was excellent, and that's it.
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I just want better games!
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This isnt the first topic reporting black fridy sales , but i just wanted to point out vita specifically So vita didnt beat 3ds sales, and nobody really expects it too. But vita actually did pretty damn well for black friday. This is contrary to several threads i saw in this forum previously thinking vita did piss poor. 160,000 sales. Its not OMG mind blowing but its no doubt impressive News is reporting the vita bundles sold out almost everywhere. Amazon sold out of all their vita bundles. And i will say just in terms of my county that many vita games are actually sold out. This stuff shoudnt come as a surpise, the black friday deals for vita were very attractive. So a quick congrats to vita, if it maintains this kinda momentum the vita i honestly think should be fine. Vita actually got a pretty decent number of games this xmas and its got some pretty good games already announced for 2013. Its not catching up to 3ds sales and it never will but i think thats something everyone has come to accept. SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS, the vita did well here but is this the beginning of a turn around for vita or did vita simply get lucky for this moment only? ms555
Other than the Vita, which systm doesn't put up more than 160K each and every month of the year? Don't think any of them have and this is suppose to be impressive on Black Friday? Even the Gamecube was doing better than that.

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im only calling these numbers good becuse news outlets (who know more than i do) are saying 160k is an impressive number. I mean would u consider the 250 and 400 from 3ds and wii u weak?ms555

250 for the 3ds is a bit weak....400k for the 3rd biggest console launch in history is just fine..

150k for a 300$ device discounted to 180(it's suggested sweet spot price) with 5 games in the biggest shopping week of the year.in the biggest market? pathetic.

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#40 Malta_1980
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black friday doesn't really indicate momentum. the next sales report will certainly be lower.

CaseyWegner

I agree with you, however it shows that there are many ppl who want a PSV, probably the current price-tag or Memory cards prices are holding them back..

So the only thing PSV needs right now are more games which will make gamers more interested in buying the system..

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All it shows is that Sony needs to drop the price of the PS Vita system and memory cards nothing more. People just aren't willing to pay $250 for a core handheld system.

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[QUOTE="joel_c17"]What sony needs to do; 1. Price drop to around 200 dollars 2. Get some developers who know what they are doing to make a COD / online shooter game. 3. ??? 4. Profit oh and more advertising. Its actually surprising how many adds i see in australia but im assuming it doesnt get much advertising love in the USToxic-Seahorse

The price drop is needed and Killzone should be that online shooter it needs. If Killzone fail they're going to have a hard time. As far as ads go, I see CoD Declassified ads as well as ACIII Liberation ads quite frequently.

havent seen 1 ad on tv or outside for cod declassified. AC liberation I saw a tv ad like twice and no other ads anywhere els.

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#43 finalfantasy94
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All it shows is that Sony needs to drop the price of the PS Vita system and memory cards nothing more. People just aren't willing to pay $250 for a core handheld system.

FlamesOfGrey

lets hope they notice this and drop it in price. Also bundle a memory card with it.

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#44 Zophar87
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Biased report.

Everything picks up speed on Black Friday.

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With the deals on the Vita last week 160k is bad really bad sales...

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#46 game_masta14
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Hopefully these sales serve as a wakeup call to Sony. The prices need to go down and the memory cards need to be bundled. They know what they need to do and they can start by lowering the damn price on these memory cards and bundling them with each Vita system. I don't know why they didn't do that from the start.
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#47 BigBoss255
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It can't keep rolling without games. The upcoming line up sucks ass, so does the current one. LBP and Uncharted are the only 2 good games on it.
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#48 LittleMac19
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#49 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="joel_c17"] The system is bad in general? please stop talking out your ass.

He's talking about Vita's sales. SALES. It should be clear since this is a sales thread. No one is denying that the Vita is a pretty sweet piece of hardware (possibly the best Sony has ever made, actually)

Charizard does have a point , this is a sales thread haha. Glad u can at least understnd sales dont reflect quality here with the vita And charizard as i stated, im only calling these numbers good becuse news outlets (who know more than i do) are saying 160k is an impressive number. I mean would u consider the 250 and 400 from 3ds and wii u weak?

For the Wii U, not really,since it was supply constrained. The 3DS? Yes. Shockingly bad. Nintendo needs to do something to turn it around in the west pronto. Killing the DS might be good for starters. The scheduled price drop looks like a good move too.
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#50 WiiRocks66
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I have a Vita and I love it. The hardware is fantastic. It blows the 3DS away. But it's too expensive. If Sony wants it to succeed, they need to cut the price of the system and memory cards. They should cut it to $200 and include an 8gb memory card. Sell the 16 and 32gb cards as upgrades. If the Vita were cheaper, it would sell. It would be a shame if it failed because it is a really awesome handheld with a lot of potential.