PS3 10 times stronger than Xbox 360 and 5 times stronger than 8800 GTS

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]lol do u know what that is talking about? BTW neogaf is a rumor mill site, they do alot to get ppl coming to their site...ps that isn't that it loads X textures in Y time... that is FLOATING point calculations done by the gpu, that means nothing in graphics....tsk.Hydrolex

OK Neogaf is BS

but do you agree PS3's cell is way powerful than 360's cell + ram ?

do you also agree

GPU Core clock speeds....

PS3's 550mhz

360's 500mhz

?

We all know the ps3 has more power than the 360 but its not 10 times more powerfull!! Its prob about the same as the difference between the ps2 and xbox.

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"]

Too bad ray-tracing isn't used for games.

Isn't the TC the same guy that made a post that linked to his own blog on N4G yesterday? I think he is. Now we get to watch him link to a forum post on another board. Super!

Bgrngod

I'd love to see a link proving that. Ray-Tracing is not something done for partial images, of which clouds would be part of. It is done for calculating lighting as accurately as possible. It's an extremely intensive process that runs entirely differently then 3D rendering done in games.

believe me, true raytracing is not done in games, and its counter productive to have part of your game (clouds, whatever) be rendered with raytracing, and the rest be rendered with traditional shaders and lighting. You simply cannot have part of your engine render in raytracing mode and another part rendering traditionally, its just stupid and impossible.

for those who dont know:

raytracing calculate every ray coming out of every light in a scene where one light out of a thousand can emit anywhere from 100, to 10,000 to CGI level rays. Those rays bounce off objects and spawn more rays that do the same thing, thus you have a chain-effect of rays getting multiplied and bounced over and over to create the most realistic ambient and true lighting, which is not done in any game. Only in CGI stills and prerendered CGI movies.

Intel recently put together a 16 to 80 core computer that rendered Quake4 with raytracing.

Given Mass Effect is BY MILES the best looking console title, AND is not even made for 360 ground up, but uses a licensed multiplatform engine that Bioware had no control over, then what is there to say ?

360 is CLEARLY vastly superior to PS3 from what i SEE, i do not care if you give 1000 links with specs and white papers, when in games i see 360 going VASTLY ahead of anything PS3 can come up with

Really sad for a 500$ machine

saolin323

[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"]

Too bad ray-tracing isn't used for games.

Isn't the TC the same guy that made a post that linked to his own blog on N4G yesterday? I think he is. Now we get to watch him link to a forum post on another board. Super!

WARxSnake

I'd love to see a link proving that. Ray-Tracing is not something done for partial images, of which clouds would be part of. It is done for calculating lighting as accurately as possible. It's an extremely intensive process that runs entirely differently then 3D rendering done in games.

believe me, true raytracing is not done in games, and its counter productive to have part of your game (clouds, whatever) be rendered with raytracing, and the rest be rendered with traditional shaders and lighting.

for those who dont know:

raytracing calculate every ray coming out of every light in a scene where one light out of a thousand can emit anywhere from 100, to 10,000 to CGI level rays. Those rays bounce off objects and spawn more rays that do the same thing, thus you have a chain-effect of rays getting multiplied and bounced over and over to create the most realistic ambient and true lighting, which is not done in any game. Only in CGI stills and prerendered CGI movies.

Intel recently put together a 16 to 80 core computer that rendered Quake4 with raytracing.

[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Hydrolex"]

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]I have seen you post on n4g.com where you do nothing but bash the 360. But no where does it state the ps3 is x10 more powerfull than the 360! It loaded some textures faster WOW:roll: before making wild claims prove it properly please.Hydrolex

What does that mean ? That mean it's more powerful lol.

It doesn't mean it will produce better graphics. You need to start studying proper English before you will come here and argue about something you have no actual knowledege of.

well, another lemming. all 360 fans think they have knowledege. It's not new

:lol: Self ownage is abundant on SW today.

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]lol do u know what that is talking about? BTW neogaf is a rumor mill site, they do alot to get ppl coming to their site...ps that isn't that it loads X textures in Y time... that is FLOATING point calculations done by the gpu, that means nothing in graphics....tsk.Hydrolex

OK Neogaf is BS

but do you agree PS3's cell is way powerful than 360's cell + ram ?

do you also agree

GPU Core clock speeds....

PS3's 550mhz

360's 500mhz

?

No i don;t agree because the core cloe speed for the 360's gpu is 700 mhz...u fail the ps3's is 550 tho yes. and no the ps3 is's cell is not way more power then thes 360's cell because the 360 doesn't have one! its has a custom based pc cpu. the ram is shared and doesn't have dos ram or main ram like the ps3 which goes at a speed of 3.2gz its xdr ram the cell uses for its main ram and its crap for gomtery memory storing. its only used for the cell and there for is used for ai, physics and if the cell does do rendering it is generall lightig because the cell bottle necks to much, so if it has to do ai, physics and rendering the cell would drag the game down to a 5 fps thing.

8800 GTS slaughters the PS3..... how can you even dispute this?Meu2k7

OK I wanna clear something here ! You PS3 fans have to be like these 360 fans. See how they not gonna accept the truth.

If you make a topic and put this in the title--> Xbox 360 is 10 times stronger than PS3 and 5 times stronger than 8800 GTS, they all would say " That's it ? we all knew that. Actually Xbox 360 is even 3 times more powerful than 8800 ultra"

LOL ROFLLLLLLLL

Given Mass Effect is BY MILES the best looking console title, AND is not even made for 360 ground up, but uses a licensed multiplatform engine that Bioware had no control over, then what is there to say ?

360 is CLEARLY vastly superior to PS3 from what i SEE, i do not care if you give 1000 links with specs and white papers, when in games i see 360 going VASTLY ahead of anything PS3 can come up with

Really sad for a 500$ machine

saolin323

Thanks for proving to everyone you dont own a PS3. Mass Effect looks primiative compared to Uncharted. Uncharted has better textures, lighting effects, superior animations and it doesnt take up to 10 seconds at times to load the textures not to mention ME has framerate problems . Your simply a fanboy dont waste our time.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]8800 GTS slaughters the PS3..... how can you even dispute this?anshul89

yeah in a couple months, it will upgrade itself overnight when the nerd is sleeping and be 10 times better than a newly released 9800GX2

hey the ifno that u read and was token from this forums which is off of another foum.

link

says the rsx has more then one core, which is false. so that disproves alll of this.

OK I wanna clear something here ! You PS3 fans have to be like these 360 fans. See how they not gonna accept the truth.

If you make a topic and put this in the title--> Xbox 360 is 10 times stronger than PS3 and 5 times stronger than 8800 GTS, they all would say " That's it ? we all knew that. Actually Xbox 360 is even 3 times more powerful than 8800 ultra"

LOL ROFLLLLLLLL

Hydrolex

Dude, you're all alone in this nonsense, and that's coming from a fellow PS3 owner and fan.

[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]8800 GTS slaughters the PS3..... how can you even dispute this?WARxSnake

yeah in a couple months, it will upgrade itself overnight when the nerd is sleeping and be 10 times better than a newly released 9800GX2

Besides the fact this type of thread was way overdone about a year ago

The REAL diffrence between the 360 and PS3 is minimal, with the PS3 having the slightest edge, but it will never be able to do anything that will be significantly better than the 360, they are closer in terms of abilities than the original xbox and ps2

The 360 has a MUCH better GPU, and the PS3 has a better cpu, woohoo, the advantge of the 360 is it is significantly easier for 3rd party software makers to make games for the system, oh yeah, and those games sell, alot

[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

:lol:...the 360 is more powerful.

Thats a fact and it has better memory usage.

Hydrolex

YEs ! it is more powerful than PS3 but in dream. Don't try to be marther luther king

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAH

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]8800 GTS slaughters the PS3..... how can you even dispute this?anshul89

exactky...

ps the ps3's hardware isn't bad, its just not this amazing in real games. in generating and laoding levels with all of its resoucres sure. but not in a game. mabe in a movie...but not a game. but anyways, the ps3 still has alot more resouces to be optimized in games, like the 360, so just wait thro the years yo.

[QUOTE="Hydrolex"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

:lol:...the 360 is more powerful.

Thats a fact and it has better memory usage.

MCGSMB

YEs ! it is more powerful than PS3 but in dream. Don't try to be marther luther king

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAH SIGGED!

noooooooo the nobuo sig you have to this day is classic and legendary.

[QUOTE="MCGSMB"][QUOTE="Hydrolex"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

:lol:...the 360 is more powerful.

Thats a fact and it has better memory usage.

istreakforfood

YEs ! it is more powerful than PS3 but in dream. Don't try to be marther luther king

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAH SIGGED!

noooooooo the nobuo sig you have to this day is classic and legendary.

Ha ok I'll keep it.

Ha ok I'll keep it.

MCGSMB

nah you can change it. i liked the homeless comment he made better. i dont want to deprieve the ppl of seeing hydro's post. wouldnt be fair.

is this thread a joke? we all know ps3 is more powerful then God so why compare it with xflop 360?mingo123

Is this sarcasm or did I just see you make a full 180? Because I'm sure I've seen you passionately bashing the PS3 in the past.

edit: whoops! misread mingo's post. He's still enjoying his cowbashing.

On topic: I have no clue what this all means, but no matter how you twist it, the PS3 is doing something better than the 360 and the 8800GT.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]is this thread a joke? we all know ps3 is more powerful then God so why compare it with xflop 360?NielsNL

Is this sarcasm or did I just see you make a full 180? Because I'm sure I've seen you passionately bashing the PS3 in the past.

edit: whoops! misread mingo's post. He's still enjoying his cowbashing.

On topic: I have no clue what this all means, but no matter how you twist it, the PS3 is doing something better than the 360 and the 8800GT.

No one is claiming the ps3 is not doing something better but the tc is trying to claim the ps3 is 10 times more powerfull than the 360.

This thread reeks of failure.Killfox

Yes thats why we are on page 4 almost 5. lol another lemming

No one is claiming the ps3 is not doing something better but the tc is trying to claim the ps3 is 10 times more powerfull than the 360.

Duckyindiana

True that it isn't 10 times more powerful. But people in this thread make it seem as if it doesn't mean anything while simple common sense leads me to thinking it can never be a bad thing if it does something so well.

I cannot even fathom the amount of stupidity being processed by the TC, it is literally dumbfounding.

I dont even know what to say.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]is this thread a joke? we all know ps3 is more powerful then God so why compare it with xflop 360?Duckyindiana

Is this sarcasm or did I just see you make a full 180? Because I'm sure I've seen you passionately bashing the PS3 in the past.

edit: whoops! misread mingo's post. He's still enjoying his cowbashing.

On topic: I have no clue what this all means, but no matter how you twist it, the PS3 is doing something better than the 360 and the 8800GT.

No one is claiming the ps3 is not doing something better but the tc is trying to claim the ps3 is 10 times more powerfull than the 360.

exactly. All this linkage and images he gave use just shows us a program devloped for the ps3 and then tested on the others without optimzation, just poor port testing. the ps3 was optimzed for this program thats why it uses the rsx with the cell. the rsx isn' doing all that on its own....ppl i think don't even know that about what the tc gave us,,,,ppl think the rsx is doing everything on its own...tsk

lol heres a link to another COw tc not knowing what he is talking about: lol

linkhint: its not the speeds that count, it sthe bottlenecking that does.

[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

:lol:...the 360 is more powerful.

Thats a fact and it has better memory usage.

Hydrolex

YEs ! it is more powerful than PS3 but in dream. Don't try to be marther luther king

my god, this thread is like the kid's table of system wars..

wait..

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]is this thread a joke? we all know ps3 is more powerful then God so why compare it with xflop 360?LibertySaint

Is this sarcasm or did I just see you make a full 180? Because I'm sure I've seen you passionately bashing the PS3 in the past.

edit: whoops! misread mingo's post. He's still enjoying his cowbashing.

On topic: I have no clue what this all means, but no matter how you twist it, the PS3 is doing something better than the 360 and the 8800GT.

No one is claiming the ps3 is not doing something better but the tc is trying to claim the ps3 is 10 times more powerfull than the 360.

exactly. All this linkage and images he gave use just shows us a program devloped for the ps3 and then tested on the others without optimzation, just poor port testing. the ps3 was optimzed for this program thats why it uses the rsx with the cell. the rsx isn' doing all that on its own....ppl i think don't even know that about what the tc gave us,,,,ppl think the rsx is doing everything on its own...tsk

They have been working with M$ longer, so you would think 360 should be better.

Its not hard to believe at all here what they said before about PS3.

--

A very cool side effect of the PS3's architecture is that ProFX should be able to continuously stream textures -- using one or two SPUs to compute the textures to be given to the GPU to be displayed, that's a huge bonus for adding rich content to games without having to stream that content from the BluRay or overloading the sole GPU of the machine.

[QUOTE="Killfox"]This thread reeks of failure.Hydrolex

Yes thats why we are on page 4 almost 5. lol another lemming

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="Duckyindiana"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]is this thread a joke? we all know ps3 is more powerful then God so why compare it with xflop 360?killzowned24

Is this sarcasm or did I just see you make a full 180? Because I'm sure I've seen you passionately bashing the PS3 in the past.

edit: whoops! misread mingo's post. He's still enjoying his cowbashing.

On topic: I have no clue what this all means, but no matter how you twist it, the PS3 is doing something better than the 360 and the 8800GT.

No one is claiming the ps3 is not doing something better but the tc is trying to claim the ps3 is 10 times more powerfull than the 360.

exactly. All this linkage and images he gave use just shows us a program devloped for the ps3 and then tested on the others without optimzation, just poor port testing. the ps3 was optimzed for this program thats why it uses the rsx with the cell. the rsx isn' doing all that on its own....ppl i think don't even know that about what the tc gave us,,,,ppl think the rsx is doing everything on its own...tsk

They have been working with M$ longer, so you would think 360 should be better.

Its not hard to believe at all here what they said before about PS3.

--

A very cool side effect of the PS3's architecture is that ProFX should be able to continuously stream textures -- using one or two SPUs to compute the textures to be given to the GPU to be displayed, that's a huge bonus for adding rich content to games without having to stream that content from the BluRay or overloading the sole GPU of the machine.

do u know what i was talking about!?!??!?!?! i'm talking about the program, engine if u want to call it, the ps3 is running in this thead. there are hundreds of engines devs' use for diffrent games. i'm saying this engine; yes devs have been working with the 360 longer, but sony devloped this engine FOR the ps3, and is not designed for a gts of 360 therefore doesn't work well on them without optimzation...duhhh doinks scooby.

[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Hydrolex"]

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]I have seen you post on n4g.com where you do nothing but bash the 360. But no where does it state the ps3 is x10 more powerfull than the 360! It loaded some textures faster WOW:roll: before making wild claims prove it properly please.Hydrolex

What does that mean ? That mean it's more powerful lol.

It doesn't mean it will produce better graphics. You need to start studying proper English before you will come here and argue about something you have no actual knowledege of.

well, another lemming. all 360 fans think they have knowledege. It's not new

I'm sure that I'm not a lemming. I'm pretty sure you're the big fanboy here :D

I didn't know consoles lifted weights.heretrix

[QUOTE="Killfox"]This thread reeks of failure.Hydrolex

Yes thats why we are on page 4 almost 5. lol another lemming

5 pages of ppl laughing at you

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="Duckyindiana"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]is this thread a joke? we all know ps3 is more powerful then God so why compare it with xflop 360?killzowned24

Is this sarcasm or did I just see you make a full 180? Because I'm sure I've seen you passionately bashing the PS3 in the past.

edit: whoops! misread mingo's post. He's still enjoying his cowbashing.

On topic: I have no clue what this all means, but no matter how you twist it, the PS3 is doing something better than the 360 and the 8800GT.

No one is claiming the ps3 is not doing something better but the tc is trying to claim the ps3 is 10 times more powerfull than the 360.

exactly. All this linkage and images he gave use just shows us a program devloped for the ps3 and then tested on the others without optimzation, just poor port testing. the ps3 was optimzed for this program thats why it uses the rsx with the cell. the rsx isn' doing all that on its own....ppl i think don't even know that about what the tc gave us,,,,ppl think the rsx is doing everything on its own...tsk

They have been working with M$ longer, so you would think 360 should be better.

Its not hard to believe at all here what they said before about PS3.

--

A very cool side effect of the PS3's architecture is that ProFX should be able to continuously stream textures -- using one or two SPUs to compute the textures to be given to the GPU to be displayed, that's a huge bonus for adding rich content to games without having to stream that content from the BluRay or overloading the sole GPU of the machine.

do u know what i was talking about!?!??!?!?! u'm talking baout thr program, engine if u want to call it, the ps3 is running in this trhead. there are hundreds of engines devs' use for diffrent games. i'm saying this engine, yes devs have been working with the 360 longer, but sony devloped this engine FOR the ps3, and is not designed for a gts of 360 therefore doesn't work well on them without optimzation...duhhh doinks scooby.

clearly it would be optimized for each,duh.

and its made by sony.....yesss.....

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]Call me when theres a PS3 game which looks 5 times better than Crysis and 10 times better than Bioshock.Hydrolex

In 2008 it is gonna happen

WITH WHAT!!? dont even tell me killzone 2 will look better than crysis..

[QUOTE="Killfox"]This thread reeks of failure.Hydrolex

Yes thats why we are on page 4 almost 5. lol another lemming

I think you're a complete moron that won't listen to reason or logic. Does that make me a lemming? Because if you think I am, know that I actually support Sony over MS. I'm just waiting for Resistance 2 :o