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#1 RyanShazam
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Alright i hear a lot of people say the PS3 will just look, or perform a tiny bit better than 360 games, then i also hear things like Uncharted is just the start.

Can i get a reasonable explenation as to how much better looking and technical wise PS3 games will get? Or is all of what Sony said a bunch of BS (things like characters wont fall the same way, and all that 4-d stuff).

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So does anyone have any ideas?
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#3 Kirlok
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sony has been saying BS since ever (every brand those)

and the ps3 is better than the 360 in some areas, like the 360 is better in some others.

srsly if anyone pays attention to the minuscule differences in both versions ima piss laughing

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#4 Vasichko
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I really dont know, I dont think anyone does. PS3 does have some good games, so does 360 and that is why I own both.

You will get fanboy responses, so be prepared. Fact of the matter is lots of people want one console to fail so a monopolistic nature forms and innovation and competition is driven out... I have no idea why either....

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#5 thatdanmgood10x
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ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

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#6 RyanShazam
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sony has been saying BS since ever (every brand those)

and the ps3 is better than the 360 in some areas, like the 360 is better in some others.

srsly if anyone pays attention to the minuscule differences in both versions ima piss laughing

Kirlok

Minuscule differences? I wondering if the difference isnt going to miniscule anymore. people say the PS3 can do way more. Thats what im trying to find out.

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ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

thatdanmgood10x

See thats the stuff im looking for. Sony and Nintendo have always had the games i like. Im wondering if game like Star Ocean 4, God of War 3, and Fanal Fantasy 13 will blow my socks off technology wise.

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#8 thatdanmgood10x
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ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

RyanShazam

See thats the stuff im looking for. Sony and Nintendo have always had the games i like. Im wondering if game like Star Ocean 4, God of War 3, and Fanal Fantasy 13 will blow my socks off technology wise.

hopefully no game has yet to push the ps3 to it s full powerhopefully mgs will try but doubt it

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ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

thatdanmgood10x

I thought the the cell had 7 SPU's and one was dedicated to the OS regardless the PS3 is just getting started and the PS2 didn't really shine until after about 5 years. So we are most likely just seeing the start of what's to come.

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#10 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="thatdanmgood10x"]

ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

jimm895

I thought the the cell had 7 SPU's and one was dedicated to the OS regardless the PS3 is just getting started and the PS2 didn't really shine until after about 5 years. So we are most likely just seeing the start of what's to come.

I hope they havent hit its max. At the rate the 360 is going i dont know how much longer it will be my main console for.

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[QUOTE="jimm895"][QUOTE="thatdanmgood10x"]

ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

RyanShazam

I thought the the cell had 7 SPU's and one was dedicated to the OS regardless the PS3 is just getting started and the PS2 didn't really shine until after about 5 years. So we are most likely just seeing the start of what's to come.

I hope they havent hit its max. At the rate the 360 is going i dont know how much longer it will be my main console for.

yea i'm trading my 360 for ps3 dosen't seem like it will last past 2008 and ps3 still won't b puch to the limits b4 this year ends

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See thats the stuff im looking for. Sony and Nintendo have always had the games i like. Im wondering if game like Star Ocean 4, God of War 3, and Fanal Fantasy 13 will blow my socks off technology wise.

RyanShazam

I see your point. But seriously.. who gives a rats ass if PS3 doesn't rip your hair off your skull when you pop in FF13 or MGS4? God of War 1 and 2 as well as the Final Fantasies on PS2 have all blew away the reviewers and gamers around the world last gen so I don't see why not this time around.

Besides, you contradicted yourself. First you mention Sony and Nintendo always had the games you like and then your wondering if PS3 will blow you away technologically. Is it games or high tech your after? or both? Because I'm sure PS3 will offer in nice combination of the two.

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Alright i hear a lot of people say the PS3 will just look, or perform a tiny bit better than 360 games, then i also hear things like Uncharted is just the start.

Can i get a reasonable explenation as to how much better looking and technical wise PS3 games will get? Or is all of what Sony said a bunch of BS (things like characters wont fall the same way, and all that 4-d stuff).

RyanShazam


There is no way to tell these things, certainly not from specs.
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Multiplats are a poor judge of power this gen. You won't get to see the Cell or the 360's GPU really stretch their legs on anything but exclusives.
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#15 Arclight_Blue
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I bet the x360 cant do this....

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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

See thats the stuff im looking for. Sony and Nintendo have always had the games i like. Im wondering if game like Star Ocean 4, God of War 3, and Fanal Fantasy 13 will blow my socks off technology wise.

oldskooler79

I see your point. But seriously.. who gives a rats ass if PS3 doesn't rip your hair off your skull when you pop in FF13 or MGS4? God of War 1 and 2 as well as the Final Fantasies on PS2 have all blew away the reviewers and gamers around the world last gen so I don't see why not this time around.

Besides, you contradicted yourself. First you mention Sony and Nintendo always had the games you like and then your wondering if PS3 will blow you away technologically. Is it games or high tech your after? or both? Because I'm sure PS3 will offer in nice combination of the two.

Alright i want the same great games i played on my PS2, but i also want the power of the PS3 to shine while im playing these games. Does that help?

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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

See thats the stuff im looking for. Sony and Nintendo have always had the games i like. Im wondering if game like Star Ocean 4, God of War 3, and Fanal Fantasy 13 will blow my socks off technology wise.

oldskooler79

I see your point. But seriously.. who gives a rats ass if PS3 doesn't rip your hair off your skull when you pop in FF13 or MGS4? God of War 1 and 2 as well as the Final Fantasies on PS2 have all blew away the reviewers and gamers around the world last gen so I don't see why not this time around.

Besides, you contradicted yourself. First you mention Sony and Nintendo always had the games you like and then your wondering if PS3 will blow you away technologically. Is it games or high tech your after? or both? Because I'm sure PS3 will offer in nice combination of the two.

It wasnt a contradiction.

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ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

thatdanmgood10x

Way to prove you have no idea what you're talking about. The PS3's cell has 1 core with 7 SPEs.

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#19 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="oldskooler79"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

See thats the stuff im looking for. Sony and Nintendo have always had the games i like. Im wondering if game like Star Ocean 4, God of War 3, and Fanal Fantasy 13 will blow my socks off technology wise.

Marth6781

I see your point. But seriously.. who gives a rats ass if PS3 doesn't rip your hair off your skull when you pop in FF13 or MGS4? God of War 1 and 2 as well as the Final Fantasies on PS2 have all blew away the reviewers and gamers around the world last gen so I don't see why not this time around.

Besides, you contradicted yourself. First you mention Sony and Nintendo always had the games you like and then your wondering if PS3 will blow you away technologically. Is it games or high tech your after? or both? Because I'm sure PS3 will offer in nice combination of the two.

It wasnt a contradiction.

yeah i didnt feel i contradicted myself.

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reality wise and tech wise they will performer very similar visualize, like the difference between ps2 and xbox 1. What u will notice is the difference in services and games/processing in the game. The cell can make a difference as can the 3 core xenos, they both run very different with very different results, the xenos seems to be awsome for sophistacted AI while the cell is awsome with physics and the enviorment.
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#22 LibertySaint
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ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

thatdanmgood10x
ps3=1 core and 7 spe's, total proceesing power of 16ghz, but in real world tests maz has been 12 and less because of the ps3's bottleneck, but that is still faster then the xenos, the 360 has 3 cores and the totall processing power is 9.6ghz.
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#23 xgraderx
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Well its been awhile now and the 360 outshines the Ps3 more than the other way around.And how much better can it get?Not much.If your looking for power dont look to the PS3 with its weak line up.Remember the Ps3 isnt the most powerful platform,that goes to the PC.
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#24 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="thatdanmgood10x"]

ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

jimm895

I thought the the cell had 7 SPU's and one was dedicated to the OS regardless the PS3 is just getting started and the PS2 didn't really shine until after about 5 years. So we are most likely just seeing the start of what's to come.

7 spes yes and one is dedicated the OS when the OS demands it, like with an in-game xmb, so future games will most likely use only 6 spes and the one core clock.
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#25 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="thatdanmgood10x"]

ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

LibertySaint
ps3=1 core and 1 spe's, total proceesing power of 16ghz, but in real world tests maz has been 12 and less because of the ps3's bottleneck, but that is still faster then the xenos, the 360 has 3 cores and the totall processing power is 9.6ghz.



I have to ask...are you joking?
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#26 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="jimm895"][QUOTE="thatdanmgood10x"]

ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

LibertySaint

I thought the the cell had 7 SPU's and one was dedicated to the OS regardless the PS3 is just getting started and the PS2 didn't really shine until after about 5 years. So we are most likely just seeing the start of what's to come.

7 spes yes and one is dedicated the OS when the OS demands it, like with an in-game xmb, so future games will most likely use only 6 spes and the one core clock.



The 7th SPE is off-limits, it can't be used at all.
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#27 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="thatdanmgood10x"]

ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

Teufelhuhn
ps3=1 core and 1 spe's, total proceesing power of 16ghz, but in real world tests maz has been 12 and less because of the ps3's bottleneck, but that is still faster then the xenos, the 360 has 3 cores and the totall processing power is 9.6ghz.



I have to ask...are you joking?

nah i meant 7 spes, it was a missprint i already edited it.
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#28 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="jimm895"][QUOTE="thatdanmgood10x"]

ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

Teufelhuhn

I thought the the cell had 7 SPU's and one was dedicated to the OS regardless the PS3 is just getting started and the PS2 didn't really shine until after about 5 years. So we are most likely just seeing the start of what's to come.

7 spes yes and one is dedicated the OS when the OS demands it, like with an in-game xmb, so future games will most likely use only 6 spes and the one core clock.



The 7th SPE is off-limits, it can't be used at all.

not in the firmware update according to sony....
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i thought the ps3 has 7 spes that ran at 1.8ghz each and one core clock at 3.2 ghz? so a total of 16ghz....unless the spes are at 3.2ghz and then WOW! alls i know is there is a bottleneck loss of 4ghz i keep hearing.
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#30 Teuf_
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not in the firmware update according to sony....
LibertySaint


Which firmware update? PS3 devs say you can't touch it.
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#31 LibertySaint
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not in the firmware update according to sony....
Teufelhuhn


Which firmware update? PS3 devs say you can't touch it.

nvm, rumor is its the one coming with the in-game xmb..oh well yes atm it can't be touched, i agree on that...but yeah who knows rumors are rumors until proven otherwise.
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i thought the ps3 has 7 spes that ran at 1.8ghz each and one core clock at 3.2 ghz? so a total of 16ghz....unless the spes are at 3.2ghz and then WOW! alls i know is there is a bottleneck loss of 4ghz i keep hearing.LibertySaint


You can't add clock speeds like that, it makes no sense. You're right that any CPU with multiple cores (or execution units, like SPE's) will never reach peak throughput, but you can't just run benchmarks that show a "loss in clock speed" like that. The efficiency depends entirely on what code is being run on it. As a rule of thumb, if you see any articles claiming anything like this you should be very skeptical.

I didn't mean to make fun of you by the way, I asked if you were joking because a few years ago it was somewhat cliche to make remarks about adding clockspeeds. I thought maybe you were joking, making fun of that.
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#33 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]
not in the firmware update according to sony....
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Which firmware update? PS3 devs say you can't touch it.

nvm, rumor is its the one coming with the in-game xmb..oh well yes atm it can't be touched, i agree on that...but yeah who knows rumors are rumors until proven otherwise.



I suppose it's possible they open it up, Sony tends to keep this kind of thing under tight wraps.
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Alright so will the PS3 be able to do what Sony said it would before its release? All that 4-d stuff

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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]i thought the ps3 has 7 spes that ran at 1.8ghz each and one core clock at 3.2 ghz? so a total of 16ghz....unless the spes are at 3.2ghz and then WOW! alls i know is there is a bottleneck loss of 4ghz i keep hearing.Teufelhuhn


You can't add clock speeds like that, it makes no sense. You're right that any CPU with multiple cores (or execution units, like SPE's) will never reach peak throughput, but you can't just run benchmarks that show a "loss in clock speed" like that. The efficiency depends entirely on what code is being run on it. As a rule of thumb, if you see any articles claiming anything like this you should be very skeptical.

I didn't mean to make fun of you by the way, I asked if you were joking because a few years ago it was somewhat cliche to make remarks about adding clockspeeds. I thought maybe you were joking, making fun of that.

lol kk thanks for the advice. Yeah i just read the info of off tech site and compare.......they usually just added the clock speeds up and said that was the theoreitcal potential....yeah oh well, thanks for the advice...but yo that means the xenos and cell are even closer then.
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#36 LibertySaint
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Alright so will the PS3 be able to do what Sony said it would before its release? All that 4-d stuff

RyanShazam
technically the ds can do aging, but its up to a dev to add that.
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#37 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Alright so will the PS3 be able to do what Sony said it would before its release? All that 4-d stuff

LibertySaint

technically the ds can do aging, but its up to a dev to add that.

Alright thanks a lot.

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#38 Teuf_
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Alright so will the PS3 be able to do what Sony said it would before its release? All that 4-d stuff

RyanShazam


4-D didn't refer to anything technical, it was a marketing term. Don't look too deeply into it.
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The CPU is the least of game developer's worries. Games don't even take them close to their limits. The lack of RAM is the biggest limiting factor. You could have all the extra cores and GHZ in the world in the PS3 or 360 and it wouldn't matter because what they have is enough and the RAM can only hold so much on screen texture.
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ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

thatdanmgood10x

um SPU's are not cores, they aren't even close to being a fulled fledged CPU.

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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]
not in the firmware update according to sony....
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Which firmware update? PS3 devs say you can't touch it.

nvm, rumor is its the one coming with the in-game xmb..oh well yes atm it can't be touched, i agree on that...but yeah who knows rumors are rumors until proven otherwise.



I suppose it's possible they open it up, Sony tends to keep this kind of thing under tight wraps.

From what I understand, the 7th SPU can be used, but sparingly as the OS/XMB at any given time if needed can and will take/use it. So I'm guessing Dev's ignore it all together.

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ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

thatdanmgood10x
Dude the PS3 has 8 core processors. One is deactivated at the start to improve the number of cores coming off the manufacturing line, but only one ia a complete processor, while the others are (for lack of a better word) semi processors. But the other day I heard an interview with the programmers from burnout that said the two machines are real close in power. where one has advantages over the other, the other one just does it differently. They both have advantages and disadvantages, but in the end they are only using a small amount of their total power. it will take a few years to push these two machines to their limits.
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[QUOTE="thatdanmgood10x"]

ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

LibertySaint
ps3=1 core and 7 spe's, total proceesing power of 16ghz, but in real world tests maz has been 12 and less because of the ps3's bottleneck, but that is still faster then the xenos, the 360 has 3 cores and the totall processing power is 9.6ghz.

Man there are alot of things that come to mind right now , but no name calling. You cannot add up the ghz like that dude. A 3.2 ghz processor no matter how many cores there are is still going to run at 3.2 ghz. It's the threads that these processors can handle. While the PS3 can handle 2 separate threads at one time, Being one core and SIX spe's.the 360 can handle 3, Being 3 Complete cores. By the way xenon is the name of the motherboard/chipset, while they are now on the falcon motherboard/chipset. And those are being replaced by another motherbaord chipset that is more reliable.
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#44 themyth01
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So does anyone have any ideas?RyanShazam

No, do you think developers really come to this forum? People will still answer and you shouldn't believe anyone of them because they'll be making up things.

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#45 Rainbow6Vet
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ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

thatdanmgood10x

360 256G memory buffer!

ps3 one huge bottleneck.

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#46 themyth01
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="thatdanmgood10x"]

ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

loftus42

ps3=1 core and 7 spe's, total proceesing power of 16ghz, but in real world tests maz has been 12 and less because of the ps3's bottleneck, but that is still faster then the xenos, the 360 has 3 cores and the totall processing power is 9.6ghz.

Man there are alot of things that come to mind right now , but no name calling. You cannot add up the ghz like that dude. A 3.2 ghz processor no matter how many cores there are is still going to run at 3.2 ghz. It's the threads that these processors can handle. While the PS3 can handle 2 separate threads at one time, Being one core and SIX spe's.the 360 can handle 3, Being 3 Complete cores. By the way xenon is the name of the motherboard/chipset, while they are now on the falcon motherboard/chipset. And those are being replaced by another motherbaord chipset that is more reliable.

Lol I also found that extremely funny, adding up the GHz for each SPE and the main PPE, just goes to show you how pointless a technical debate is in here.

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#47 loftus42
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The 7th spe is turned off at the factory, you cant turn it on and off at will. They did this cause they were getting too many cells that were having one spe come off the line not working. So to improve yield they had to turn one random spe off at the factory. This is hardwired into the cell processor so you can't turn it on and off. it's kind of like the instruction set (for lack of a better explanation that is simple enough to understand in layman's terms.) Not calling u all stupid, hell I don't understand the tech behind it. But you can't change this without doing it at the assembly line with the processor wafers. I think it kind of is like some can't have 7 while the others have one that doesn't work giving that one only six. So they decided to turn one off at the factory so they all will come out with the same amount of spe's.
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#48 donwoogie
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Alright i hear a lot of people say the PS3 will just look, or perform a tiny bit better than 360 games, then i also hear things like Uncharted is just the start.

Can i get a reasonable explenation as to how much better looking and technical wise PS3 games will get? Or is all of what Sony said a bunch of BS (things like characters wont fall the same way, and all that 4-d stuff).

RyanShazam

Most of Sony's proclaimed advantage is a result of Blu-Ray and Cell. Blu-Ray is a more future technology what with MS being very good at software, ergo, compression technology, but we're starting to see the signs of it become more viable, what with games like LO, MGS, Uncharted and R&C taking up more space than a traditional DVD disc can handle and multi-discs cannot work for all games since the Xbox 360 has not guaranteed hard drive to install stuff to.

The Cell is a massive advantage because it is much more powerful than the MS processor unit. The main issue is that it is vastly different than MS' unit since it requires the dev to take advantage of its massive parallel processing abilities which can only be done on a game which is built from the ground up on the PS3. That simply isn't being taken advantage of because, if a game is built from the ground up on the PS3 and untilises the cell fully, it would simply be too hard to port over the Xbox 360 and maintain the standards of quality, so devs are just using the Cell processor to the same capability as they can expect from the Xbox 360's one.

In this generation, exclusives have been the clincher. Most games on both consoles are multiplatforms but, at the end of the day, they are designed to be equal on both systems. Exclusives, built from the ground up for a system, are what define and raise the standards expected of games on that platform. Everytime an exclusive arrives on a platform and raises the bar, multiplatoform games have jumped up to meet that standard. The reason the Xbox 360 was beating PS3 graphics for a while is because they have churned out a tonne of good exclusive games that have pushed this limit on the Xbox 360 in terms of what it can do and the third party games have followed suit. The PS3, owing to coming out a year later, what at a suitable disadvantage since it had not third party games that really pushed the limits above the Xbox 360 so the mutliplatform developers had no reason to make good ports since there was no good game on the system that they needed to compete with, hence the lack of good PS3 ports for a while after launch. Unfortunately, technological development comes less and less as we move further into a life-cycle of a console (with the exception of a few major bounds a-la Fable 2) which is why the PS3 is catching up, since it has the aforementioned technological advantages making its lifecycle longer than that of the Xbox 360, meaning technological advances in the games produced in it are still coming out at a good rate.

This kind of interpretation has lead to the school of thought that "Xbox 360 = Now, PS3 = Future"

I prefer to think of it as a trade-off. As any good company does when differentiating its product from the competition, MS made a trad-off. They traded away putting in highly advanced technology into their system for an early release date which enabled them to grab a lot of exclusive titles and push their advancement into their lifecycle early so that the begin to peak just as the PS3 is in infancy. I imagine, if this tactic had worked according to plan and they had killed the PS3 early on, that tactic would have paid off, but the PS3 has lasted a lot longer than MS would have liked and their trade-off isn't very good in the long-term, hence why they are losing ground. The fact is, with the Studio support they had, they didn't think Blu-Ray would win. The fact that it did has made sure that the PS3 will not die out which is a major wrench in their plans.

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#49 toxicmog
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ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

thatdanmgood10x

it has one Core and 7 little bits stuck to the sides which are more like a mini cache..... not 9 cores.

If it had 9 cores you think people would be using intel quad or AMD quad cores. lol!

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[QUOTE="jimm895"][QUOTE="thatdanmgood10x"]

ps3=cell=9 core processors

360=3 core processors

it's just no one has ps3 to itt's full power yet

LibertySaint

I thought the the cell had 7 SPU's and one was dedicated to the OS regardless the PS3 is just getting started and the PS2 didn't really shine until after about 5 years. So we are most likely just seeing the start of what's to come.

7 spes yes and one is dedicated the OS when the OS demands it, like with an in-game xmb, so future games will most likely use only 6 spes and the one core clock.

Sorry about that I was half way paying attention to what I was doing when I posted this. Don't remember what was going on at that time.