PS3 and the 4th dimension.

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#1 ROCK303
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So my Q is when Sony stated that the PS3 would bring in the 4th dimension what did they mean? If the 4th dimension is " time" then what could that possibly mean with games? It just doesnt make sense to me. anyone else?
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#2 nyoroism
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It's just mindless propoganda, like Nintendo and "new-gen". Though 4-D was tons more funny.
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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25549449

enjoy...
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#4 Quofan
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Didnt you hear? Sony invented a time-machine. They also probably ripped off the idea for the time machine from Nintendo.
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Didnt you hear? Sony invented a time-machine. They also probably ripped off the idea for the time machine from Nintendo.Quofan


You better believe they did...

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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25549449

enjoy...Flipnblack

Lol a link to my topic. 

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[QUOTE="Quofan"]Didnt you hear? Sony invented a time-machine. They also probably ripped off the idea for the time machine from Nintendo.Flipnblack


You better believe they did...

Is that real?
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I played this 4D game on the Gamecube, it was about this prince who killed sand monsters or something...it was a good game, so the PS3 will clearly succeed.
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[QUOTE="Quofan"]Didnt you hear? Sony invented a time-machine. They also probably ripped off the idea for the time machine from Nintendo.Flipnblack


You better believe they did...

I totally forgot about that game.

I want it.

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[QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="Quofan"]Didnt you hear? Sony invented a time-machine. They also probably ripped off the idea for the time machine from Nintendo.nyoroism


You better believe they did...

Is that real?



Worse game ever IMO. It was kind of like a sequel to Mario is Missing, if you've played that.
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#11 nyoroism
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="Quofan"]Didnt you hear? Sony invented a time-machine. They also probably ripped off the idea for the time machine from Nintendo.Flipnblack


You better believe they did...

Is that real?



Worse game ever IMO. It was kind of like a sequel to Mario is Missing, if you've played that.

I played a few minutes of it, if that counts.
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[QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="Quofan"]Didnt you hear? Sony invented a time-machine. They also probably ripped off the idea for the time machine from Nintendo.nyoroism


You better believe they did...

Is that real?

I lold

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#13 LastSamurai14
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4th dimension=time

this has been done in certain games before. Get to point X, in D amount of time. Or if you got somewhere quick enough, you had people come to your aid (like in star fox 64).

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#14 ROCK303
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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25549449

enjoy...Flipnblack
It all makes sense now.
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#15 ROCK303
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4th dimension=time

this has been done in certain games before. Get to point X, in D amount of time. Or if you got somewhere quick enough, you had people come to your aid (like in star fox 64).

LastSamurai14
so blinx was the 4th dimension? And if that is so, then what is all the fuss about the 4th dimension. from the sounds of it 4-D flopped.
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[QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="Quofan"]Didnt you hear? Sony invented a time-machine. They also probably ripped off the idea for the time machine from Nintendo.nyoroism


You better believe they did...

Is that real?

 

Of course thats real I used to play that game at funcoland way back in the day

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[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="Quofan"]Didnt you hear? Sony invented a time-machine. They also probably ripped off the idea for the time machine from Nintendo.KingOfJersey



You better believe they did...

Is that real?

 

Of course thats real I used to play that game at funcoland way back in the day

Worst. Game. Ever. 

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#18 Jagazaar
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The 4th dimension is cheese. In the future, games will have cheese-based mechanics integrated into their systems, and will become a mainstay. And gamers will be happy, as cheese is good. In a sense, you can see early development of this phenomena from some last-gen games, just look at the dialogue of Devil May Cry 1 & 2. Simply riddled with 4D elements.
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#19 raualex
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not neccerily time :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension

But I think I remember Sony's 4d= that the character can impact the game, a.k.a physics. Ain't got a link, though, so so much for facts :P

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#20 rappid_rabbit
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In the 4th dimension, reality as we know it, ceases to exist. Our minds will implode at the thought of "existence" in the 4th dimension...

So manyc Sci-Fi writers suggest, when we die, we "ascend" into the 4th dimension...the spiritual plane of existence.

Your telling me the PS3 can help me achieve "ascension"!? Where to I sign up? :roll:

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4D is my av.
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So my Q is when Sony stated that the PS3 would bring in the 4th dimension what did they mean? If the 4th dimension is " time" then what could that possibly mean with games? It just doesnt make sense to me. anyone else?ROCK303

What happened was that whoever said that either lied to you or does not know how dimensions work. This is how it works basically: When you start with the first dimension, all you have is a point, go 90 degrees from there and you have the x and y axis, in other words, now you have a width and a height. Go 90 degrees from there, and you end up with a third axis, the z axis, or what is known as volume (for example in a cube). Now, move 90 degrees out once more and you have the fourth axis, or the fourth dimension, which we cannot interpret.

Here is a much better explanation by none other than Carl Sagan himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VareiRkDBLM

 

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#23 akif22
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it was a desperate attempt by sony to gain hype for the PS3 .. they didn't think people were smart enough to realise that it was BS
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They mean developers can use not only the 2 analog sticks to move in a 3D space, they can use the motion sensing as a 3rd stick to move in a theoretical 4th-dimension axis, not necessarily time but time is included. Is that so hard to understand?
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#25 thew13
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Let me know when a console can do the tenth dimension.

Check it out here

http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

then just click on the spiral DNA looking image on the right hand side to get a visual explanation

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4d was just a windy lie like so many other things sony says.
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#27 lordxymor
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Let me know when a console can do the tenth dimension.

Check it out here

http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

then just click on the spiral DNA looking image on the right hand side to get a visual explanation

thew13

The number of dimensions you can represent virtually is infinite. It's limited only by your imagination.

How many games we had character who could travel in time, or in peoples dreams or in alternate realities.   

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#28 donalbane
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I think what they meant was that the games were going to be dramatically better than other games... so great they'd seem like they came from an entirely different dimension.  So far, the games seem like they came from the same place as the 360 games. 
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#29 thew13
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[QUOTE="thew13"]

Let me know when a console can do the tenth dimension.

Check it out here

http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

then just click on the spiral DNA looking image on the right hand side to get a visual explanation

lordxymor

The number of dimensions you can represent virtually is infinite. It's limited only by your imagination.

How many games we had character who could travel in time, or in peoples dreams or in alternate realities.   

 

Nope not in the viewpoint presented here. 10th dimension is a far as you can go. It represents all possibilities in all alternate realities in all possible times. Watch/read it before commenting on it

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They mean developers can use not only the 2 analog sticks to move in a 3D space, they can use the motion sensing as a 3rd stick to move in a theoretical 4th-dimension axis, not necessarily time but time is included. Is that so hard to understand?lordxymor
According to wikipedia the 4th dimension is time. your wrong! And according to einsteain it's time.
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#31 lordxymor
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[QUOTE="lordxymor"][QUOTE="thew13"]

Let me know when a console can do the tenth dimension.

Check it out here

http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

then just click on the spiral DNA looking image on the right hand side to get a visual explanation

thew13

The number of dimensions you can represent virtually is infinite. It's limited only by your imagination.

How many games we had character who could travel in time, or in peoples dreams or in alternate realities.

 

Nope not in the viewpoint presented here. 10th dimension is a far as you can go. It represents all possibilities in all alternate realities in all possible times. Watch/read it before commenting on it

It's as far as he can imagine. This 10 dimention limit exist, because he can't correlate a higher dimention with reality.

Check this out http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~sage/PDF/DerthickZimmerman.pdf, it was written by a frind of mine.

I've worked as a database administrator and business analyst. We have tools to virtually represent data in dozens of dimenstions. It's not easy to understand and generate information from data using this, but there are several OLAP tools that do it.

Botton line, in a virtual enviroment, you are not bound by reality laws and limits, only by our imagination.

And ROCK303, than Einstein is wrong, and so wikipedia(shockingly). Consider this, in a movie, that has only 2 dimentions, the width and height of the frame(1920x1080 for instance), one could say that the 3rd dimention is time(the length of the movie is measured in time units) and not the 4th.

 

 

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#32 eddy_of_york
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It doesn't make sense. It's like saying they'll bring a new era of video games....just a way of making your own product seem ausome...the problem is they said something completely paradoxical and pissed off philosophers like myself.