PS3 automatically makes R6:Vegas a flop

If you ask anyone what the best feature of Rainbow Six: Vegas is on the 360, the answer will almost resoundingly be "the multiplayer". Then ask them what the key to multiplayer is, and anyone who is worth their salt knows its communication, it is so important to the point where generally speaking anyone without a mic is kicked automatically from the game. On the 360 this is fine, because almost everyone has a microphone, it comes with the premium and elite 360's and is available with the XBL gold package you can find in any electronics store.

Now for the PS3, this is a bit of an issue, there is no standard headset, which has lead to a general lack of any ingame chat because no one seems to own a headset. Now for the average FPS like resistance this isn't a problem, you can go around running and gunning and do a damn fine job. But for Vegas other than free-for-all games the PS3 version is crippled to the point where you just have to hope your team has a telepathic link or that by some act of god you manage to get all players with mics. Of course this presents another problem, suddenly most of your userbase is eliminated because as the 360 version proves, you absolutely need to be able to talk to your team. So because Sony couldn't have made a cheapie headset like MS did, they've already crippled their online service.

Well look at me in my position...my XBL just ran out and I have R6 Vegas sitting right there......now what do I do?Probably take advantgae of Gamecrazy's extra 50% trade in, trade in the 360 version, and get the PS3 version, then play it online for free.

The Multiplayer instantly wins no matter what becuase the 360 has XBL
There is no sony fanboy who can admit that the crap servie the PS3 has is better than XBL
macabalony

The Playstation Network is far from crap, though i do agree it isn't as good as XBL, as it should be. MS had the whole previous gen focusing and refining online play. if PN was as good as XBL at this point, it would proove that SOny were geniuses and MS were morons.

PSN is not as good as XBL but it's not crap and is still pretty good. and true there is no standard headset on PS3 but isn't that what lemmings always say? "we have choices" Sony lets you pick between old PS2 ones and any bluetooth headset giving you "choice" and now that "choice" is badRagashahs

If you ask anyone what the best feature of Rainbow Six: Vegas is on the 360, the answer will almost resoundingly be "the multiplayer". Then ask them what the key to multiplayer is, and anyone who is worth their salt knows its communication, it is so important to the point where generally speaking anyone without a mic is kicked automatically from the game. On the 360 this is fine, because almost everyone has a microphone, it comes with the premium and elite 360's and is available with the XBL gold package you can find in any electronics store.

Now for the PS3, this is a bit of an issue, there is no standard headset, which has lead to a general lack of any ingame chat because no one seems to own a headset. Now for the average FPS like resistance this isn't a problem, you can go around running and gunning and do a damn fine job. But for Vegas other than free-for-all games the PS3 version is crippled to the point where you just have to hope your team has a telepathic link or that by some act of god you manage to get all players with mics. Of course this presents another problem, suddenly most of your userbase is eliminated because as the 360 version proves, you absolutely need to be able to talk to your team. So because Sony couldn't have made a cheapie headset like MS did, they've already crippled their online service.

PBSnipes

I think MS crippled their online service by giving it to 10 year olds.

I see where your comming from but i disagree. There are plenty of ps3 owners with mics. Motorstorm, and resistance are loaded with people with mics. Also on the R6 forums people are saying how they are picking up mics just for rainbow 6. And the die hard fans will definatly have mics. Even without mics, than wont mean the game will be a flop. Sully28

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

If you ask anyone what the best feature of Rainbow Six: Vegas is on the 360, the answer will almost resoundingly be "the multiplayer". Then ask them what the key to multiplayer is, and anyone who is worth their salt knows its communication, it is so important to the point where generally speaking anyone without a mic is kicked automatically from the game. On the 360 this is fine, because almost everyone has a microphone, it comes with the premium and elite 360's and is available with the XBL gold package you can find in any electronics store.

Now for the PS3, this is a bit of an issue, there is no standard headset, which has lead to a general lack of any ingame chat because no one seems to own a headset. Now for the average FPS like resistance this isn't a problem, you can go around running and gunning and do a damn fine job. But for Vegas other than free-for-all games the PS3 version is crippled to the point where you just have to hope your team has a telepathic link or that by some act of god you manage to get all players with mics. Of course this presents another problem, suddenly most of your userbase is eliminated because as the 360 version proves, you absolutely need to be able to talk to your team. So because Sony couldn't have made a cheapie headset like MS did, they've already crippled their online service.

retrib

I think MS crippled their online service by giving it to 10 year olds.

[QUOTE="retrib"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

If you ask anyone what the best feature of Rainbow Six: Vegas is on the 360, the answer will almost resoundingly be "the multiplayer". Then ask them what the key to multiplayer is, and anyone who is worth their salt knows its communication, it is so important to the point where generally speaking anyone without a mic is kicked automatically from the game. On the 360 this is fine, because almost everyone has a microphone, it comes with the premium and elite 360's and is available with the XBL gold package you can find in any electronics store.

Now for the PS3, this is a bit of an issue, there is no standard headset, which has lead to a general lack of any ingame chat because no one seems to own a headset. Now for the average FPS like resistance this isn't a problem, you can go around running and gunning and do a damn fine job. But for Vegas other than free-for-all games the PS3 version is crippled to the point where you just have to hope your team has a telepathic link or that by some act of god you manage to get all players with mics. Of course this presents another problem, suddenly most of your userbase is eliminated because as the 360 version proves, you absolutely need to be able to talk to your team. So because Sony couldn't have made a cheapie headset like MS did, they've already crippled their online service.

PBSnipes

I think MS crippled their online service by giving it to 10 year olds.

huh?

[QUOTE="Sully28"]I see where your comming from but i disagree. There are plenty of ps3 owners with mics. Motorstorm, and resistance are loaded with people with mics. Also on the R6 forums people are saying how they are picking up mics just for rainbow 6. And the die hard fans will definatly have mics. Even without mics, than wont mean the game will be a flop. PBSnipes

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]PSN is not as good as XBL but it's not crap and is still pretty good. and true there is no standard headset on PS3 but isn't that what lemmings always say? "we have choices" Sony lets you pick between old PS2 ones and any bluetooth headset giving you "choice" and now that "choice" is badPBSnipes

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Sully28"]I see where your comming from but i disagree. There are plenty of ps3 owners with mics. Motorstorm, and resistance are loaded with people with mics. Also on the R6 forums people are saying how they are picking up mics just for rainbow 6. And the die hard fans will definatly have mics. Even without mics, than wont mean the game will be a flop. Sully28

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"]PSN is not as good as XBL but it's not crap and is still pretty good. and true there is no standard headset on PS3 but isn't that what lemmings always say? "we have choices" Sony lets you pick between old PS2 ones and any bluetooth headset giving you "choice" and now that "choice" is badRagashahs

Well the headset is the main issue here. If Sony could issue an official one that would work with any online game that supports it, then the problem would be settled, wouldn't it?firestorm91

[QUOTE="retrib"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

If you ask anyone what the best feature of Rainbow Six: Vegas is on the 360, the answer will almost resoundingly be "the multiplayer". Then ask them what the key to multiplayer is, and anyone who is worth their salt knows its communication, it is so important to the point where generally speaking anyone without a mic is kicked automatically from the game. On the 360 this is fine, because almost everyone has a microphone, it comes with the premium and elite 360's and is available with the XBL gold package you can find in any electronics store.

Now for the PS3, this is a bit of an issue, there is no standard headset, which has lead to a general lack of any ingame chat because no one seems to own a headset. Now for the average FPS like resistance this isn't a problem, you can go around running and gunning and do a damn fine job. But for Vegas other than free-for-all games the PS3 version is crippled to the point where you just have to hope your team has a telepathic link or that by some act of god you manage to get all players with mics. Of course this presents another problem, suddenly most of your userbase is eliminated because as the 360 version proves, you absolutely need to be able to talk to your team. So because Sony couldn't have made a cheapie headset like MS did, they've already crippled their online service.

PBSnipes

I think MS crippled their online service by giving it to 10 year olds.

Mortgage your house?! Seriously dude if you need to mortgage your house to afford $600 then you seriously need to get some education and get a decent job. It's around $800 here in the UK and I can afford one, and I'm just out of school. Seriously man get a job. Also the PSN isn't that bad. You can play 40 players online without lag thanks to dedicated servers (Resistance.) Also the overwhelming amount of players have headsets. You haven't played a game using PNS because you're a fanboy, but gamers that can hold down a job, and own both consoles have, and trust me PSN is not as bad as you make it out to be.

The Multiplayer instantly wins no matter what becuase the 360 has XBL
There is no sony fanboy who can admit that the crap servie the PS3 has is better than XBL
macabalony

[QUOTE="firestorm91"]Well the headset is the main issue here. If Sony could issue an official one that would work with any online game that supports it, then the problem would be settled, wouldn't it?PBSnipes

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]PSN is not as good as XBL but it's not crap and is still pretty good. and true there is no standard headset on PS3 but isn't that what lemmings always say? "we have choices" Sony lets you pick between old PS2 ones and any bluetooth headset giving you "choice" and now that "choice" is badPBSnipes

Who cares? Bluetooth headsets are of far superior audio quality then those shoddy Xbox Live ones. At least PS3 owners get the choice as to whether they want to use one that Sony has designed for the PS3 which is fairly cheap, or they can buy a really high quality one for extra money if they wish, whereas you only get one option with the 360, that was the point Ragashahs was trying to make. The PS3 has that option since it uses wireless standard Bluetooth communication, whereas the 360 does not. Hell evem the Wii has Bluetooth connectivity for the controllers and I am sure a headset will work with online Wii games as well.

The Multiplayer instantly wins no matter what becuase the 360 has XBL
There is no sony fanboy who can admit that the crap servie the PS3 has is better than XBL
macabalony

I think that the PSN is better than XBL

Another feature that the PS3 version of R6V is missing is the custom face making via Vision camera. It's pretty fun seeing these funny custom faces. And I believe players will have fun in the multiplayer at first, but when they get serious and really want to compete they'll realize that they do need the majority of players in their team to have mics to win. They wouldn't know how much fun they're missing if they never played R6V on the 360. Actually that's true to any game with multiplayer.

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"]PSN is not as good as XBL but it's not crap and is still pretty good. and true there is no standard headset on PS3 but isn't that what lemmings always say? "we have choices" Sony lets you pick between old PS2 ones and any bluetooth headset giving you "choice" and now that "choice" is badPBSnipes

I am sorry but that has got to be the dumbest logic I have read this week (considering its now Monday, its pretty early for stupid logic). Just because the 360 Premium and Elite come with a microphone does not mean people want to use them on XBL. World of WarCraft supports team speak yet not everyone wants to actually talk with the rest of their team, thats just the way it is. Besides, the last thing gamers should have to deal with is screaming 10 year olds playing online games, sorry but that kind of crap should not be allowed, its highly annoying playing Halo 2 online while little kids are screaming cause they suck.

Another feature that the PS3 version of R6V is missing is the custom face making via Vision camera. It's pretty fun seeing these funny custom faces. And I believe players will have fun in the multiplayer at first, but when they get serious and really want to compete they'll realize that they do need the majority of players in their team to have mics to win. They wouldn't know how much fun they're missing if they never played R6V on the 360. Actually that's true to any game with multiplayer.

ReverseCycology

You never needed a microphone in Unreal Tournament 2004, and that is one of the biggest communication heavy games out there, especially for Onslaught, same with Counter Strike. Many people get along just fine without having to communicate using your voice. So long as you pay attention to where your team is and the objectives at hand, you dont need to talk.

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]PSN is not as good as XBL but it's not crap and is still pretty good. and true there is no standard headset on PS3 but isn't that what lemmings always say? "we have choices" Sony lets you pick between old PS2 ones and any bluetooth headset giving you "choice" and now that "choice" is badPBSnipes

You can easily get a bluetooth headset for $30 (if you want a cheapo one)

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Another feature that the PS3 version of R6V is missing is the custom face making via Vision camera. It's pretty fun seeing these funny custom faces. And I believe players will have fun in the multiplayer at first, but when they get serious and really want to compete they'll realize that they do need the majority of players in their team to have mics to win. They wouldn't know how much fun they're missing if they never played R6V on the 360. Actually that's true to any game with multiplayer.

DSgamer64

You never needed a microphone in Unreal Tournament 2004, and that is one of the biggest communication heavy games out there, especially for Onslaught, same with Counter Strike. Many people get along just fine without having to communicate using your voice. So long as you pay attention to where your team is and the objectives at hand, you dont need to talk.

Like the TC said, games like those you're fine withoutmics. In R6V there's levels where you and your team are in different levels of a building. So not having a mic would make it harder to find where your team is at and what you're about to do.

I have to agree. First of all, headsets are just fun to talk to people who could be your friend or just to talk to your friend in real life. Second of all, headsets make it easier to strategize who taking what , who is doing that, and who is going where and it adds so much more to the gameplay.

I've played without a headset for a day and it just feels like your are playing with computers that occasionally do a t-bag to you.

The Multiplayer instantly wins no matter what becuase the 360 has XBL
There is no sony fanboy who can admit that the crap servie the PS3 has is better than XBL
macabalony

agreed

If you ask anyone what the best feature of Rainbow Six: Vegas is on the 360, the answer will almost resoundingly be "the multiplayer". Then ask them what the key to multiplayer is, and anyone who is worth their salt knows its communication, it is so important to the point where generally speaking anyone without a mic is kicked automatically from the game. On the 360 this is fine, because almost everyone has a microphone, it comes with the premium and elite 360's and is available with the XBL gold package you can find in any electronics store.

Now for the PS3, this is a bit of an issue, there is no standard headset, which has lead to a general lack of any ingame chat because no one seems to own a headset. Now for the average FPS like resistance this isn't a problem, you can go around running and gunning and do a damn fine job. But for Vegas other than free-for-all games the PS3 version is crippled to the point where you just have to hope your team has a telepathic link or that by some act of god you manage to get all players with mics. Of course this presents another problem, suddenly most of your userbase is eliminated because as the 360 version proves, you absolutely need to be able to talk to your team. So because Sony couldn't have made a cheapie headset like MS did, they've already crippled their online service.

PBSnipes

I and many others play resistance with my clan. We all have a head set and use our own channel to speak. Vegas will be the the same and will be played by alot of clans.

When i play vegas on 360 with people I don't know I hardly talk. And I do fine since the maps are small and you quikly learn what to do without talking.

But yes, its certainly not a positive point that there are no standard mics. There are alot of people who do have one though. I'd say the majority of regular online players have one.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

If you ask anyone what the best feature of Rainbow Six: Vegas is on the 360, the answer will almost resoundingly be "the multiplayer". Then ask them what the key to multiplayer is, and anyone who is worth their salt knows its communication, it is so important to the point where generally speaking anyone without a mic is kicked automatically from the game. On the 360 this is fine, because almost everyone has a microphone, it comes with the premium and elite 360's and is available with the XBL gold package you can find in any electronics store.

Now for the PS3, this is a bit of an issue, there is no standard headset, which has lead to a general lack of any ingame chat because no one seems to own a headset. Now for the average FPS like resistance this isn't a problem, you can go around running and gunning and do a damn fine job. But for Vegas other than free-for-all games the PS3 version is crippled to the point where you just have to hope your team has a telepathic link or that by some act of god you manage to get all players with mics. Of course this presents another problem, suddenly most of your userbase is eliminated because as the 360 version proves, you absolutely need to be able to talk to your team. So because Sony couldn't have made a cheapie headset like MS did, they've already crippled their online service.

retrib

I think MS crippled their online service by giving it to 10 year olds.

How many 10 year olds have credit cards? ;)

don't you think sony would rather have those customers..even the 10 year olds?

of course they would...

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

If you ask anyone what the best feature of Rainbow Six: Vegas is on the 360, the answer will almost resoundingly be "the multiplayer". Then ask them what the key to multiplayer is, and anyone who is worth their salt knows its communication, it is so important to the point where generally speaking anyone without a mic is kicked automatically from the game. On the 360 this is fine, because almost everyone has a microphone, it comes with the premium and elite 360's and is available with the XBL gold package you can find in any electronics store.

Now for the PS3, this is a bit of an issue, there is no standard headset, which has lead to a general lack of any ingame chat because no one seems to own a headset. Now for the average FPS like resistance this isn't a problem, you can go around running and gunning and do a damn fine job. But for Vegas other than free-for-all games the PS3 version is crippled to the point where you just have to hope your team has a telepathic link or that by some act of god you manage to get all players with mics. Of course this presents another problem, suddenly most of your userbase is eliminated because as the 360 version proves, you absolutely need to be able to talk to your team. So because Sony couldn't have made a cheapie headset like MS did, they've already crippled their online service.

lusitanogamer

you do have choice tho

You can pick up a blue tooth head set for like 20 bucks. It has the feature to use them.

Whats the problem?