PS3 drops price.....so will 360

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#1 Cole-Protocal
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The current Jasper chipset has both a 65 nm CPU and GPU.

This falls Valhalla chipset is ONE 65nm chip that has both the CPU and GPU. The cost savings will be immense.

You seriously think a PS3 09 price drop will go unoticed? If need be and backed against a wall like in 08.......MS can and will afford another price drop to have another wonderful holiday 08 repeat.

Sony isnt the only one with options....

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#2 atm0073
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Well, obviously. Wasn't a 360 price drop discussed in the article as well? I didn't read the entire article, but I do believe I saw something that hinted that in the article title. It's a shame that Sony is losing money through all this, though.
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#3 rybe1025
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I do not see a cut happening for either one. Microsoft has no need right now and Sony just can not afford to do one right now. When they are posting a loss for only the second time since Sony went on the market then they are not about to take larger losses.
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The current Jasper chipset has both a 65 nm CPU and GPU.

This falls Valhalla chipset is ONE 65nm chip that has both the CPU and GPU. The cost savings will be immense.

You seriously think a PS3 09 price drop will go unoticed? If need be and backed against a wall like in 08.......MS can and will afford another price drop to have another wonderful holiday 08 repeat.

Sony isnt the only one with options....

Cole-Protocal
Ya and system sales will probably pick up for ps3. Just because you can lower the price of the 360 system doesnt mean you can forgive the failure rate that cost so many consumers and investors alot of hard earned money.
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#5 Cole-Protocal
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I do not see a cut happening for either one. Microsoft has no need right now and Sony just can not afford to do one right now. When they are posting a loss for only the second time since Sony went on the market then they are not about to take larger losses.rybe1025

true....but just saying the valhalla chipset savings will allow a price cut......if PS3 drops first.

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#6 rybe1025
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Another point is MS is not taking a loss on their consoles like Sony is. So if either of the two companies was in a position for a price drop it would be MS and not Sony. To further add to this console companies make the most money off of software where MS is in first place and Sony is in last. I just can not see Sony cutting the price. Sony the company as a whole is in bad shape and worse then the other two consoles. They are posting a huge loss. So like I said before MS does not need to price cut but they are in a position to do so but Sony wants to but they can not.
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#7 Chris898
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If the price drops on the 360 any more, the console may not make any profit. So i doubt it.
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#8 Cole-Protocal
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If the price drops on the 360 any more, the console may not make any profit. So i doubt it.Chris898

another $50 isnt out of the question.

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this is simple industrial economics where there is obviously a price war going on, and from the looks of this SONY needs to compete on non-price things such as exclusives alot more. because they cannot win a price war will most likely never be able to.
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Valhalla might be the slim 360. I hope so cause I'll upgrade to it.
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#12 nikolai37
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Yes but a lot of people will look at a $300 PS3 as a better value than a $250 or even a $200 360. I think the $400 price is just to much for some people to spend even for something they think is worth it. I think $300 is really the price that should increase PS3 sales drastically, will it outsell the 360 with a price drop? Maybe, but I dont think it is going to matter much to MS, the 360 will always do well.
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#14 Chris898
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[QUOTE="Chris898"]If the price drops on the 360 any more, the console may not make any profit. So i doubt it.Cole-Protocal

another $50 isnt out of the question.

but that $50 could be the difference between the console making profit/loss/break even

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#15 finalfantasy94
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If anything if PS3 does drop in price I think MS will drop one of thier good models in price. The arcade model is just lame for a gamer.
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they should cut their prices in half
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The current Jasper chipset has both a 65 nm CPU and GPU.

This falls Valhalla chipset is ONE 65nm chip that has both the CPU and GPU. The cost savings will be immense.

You seriously think a PS3 09 price drop will go unoticed? If need be and backed against a wall like in 08.......MS can and will afford another price drop to have another wonderful holiday 08 repeat.

Sony isnt the only one with options....

Cole-Protocal
I don't think more of a price drop will help 360. It's cheaper than the Wii right now, and I can't imagine it being even cheaper changing much, as anyone who wants one will most likely be happy to bite at the current price point. Anyone who still wants one isn't waiting for price drops, they're waiting for games they want to play.
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It's ironic how the 360 and Wii are saling more because they're cheaper and not better. The 360 and Wii would lose badly if it were Sonys machine whos was the cheapest.
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#19 Cole-Protocal
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It's ironic how the 360 and Wii are saling more because they're cheaper and not better.

The 360 and Wii would lose badly if it were Sonys machine whos was the cheapest. patriots7672

360 has a bigger library.....more A-AAA reviewed games, a more feature rich online. So ya.....its kinda "better" then PS3 in most ppls opinions.

:lol: you are using A DIFFERENT DIMENSION......a WHAT IF world where PS3 is cheaper. Sorry, no "alternate dimensions" allowed in SW.

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I dont think the Arcade price will drop anytime soon myself. MAYBE before next Christmas. I would that MS would price cut the Elite and Pro SKUs though. I just feel like they've stripped the arcade down to $199 so cost that much for awhile.
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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]It's ironic how the 360 and Wii are saling more because they're cheaper and not better.

The 360 and Wii would lose badly if it were Sonys machine whos was the cheapest. Cole-Protocal

360 has a bigger library.....more A-AAA reviewed games, a more feature rich online. So ya.....its kinda "better" then PS3 in most ppls opinions.

:lol: you are using A DIFFERENT DIMENSION......a WHAT IF world where PS3 is cheaper. Sorry, no "alternate dimensions" allowed in SW.

wow over 600 posts in less than a month. Don't you have a job?

Who cares.. it only benefits consumers. Guess you fail to realize that.

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What microsoft really needs to do is focus on correcting their shoddy OS. All their focus and efforts seem to have been diverted to the crapbox 360. *chuckles* because I rarely ever call any console by some fanyboy term. I guess I got a kick out of it? Anyway the games are still good!
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

[QUOTE="patriots7672"]It's ironic how the 360 and Wii are saling more because they're cheaper and not better.

The 360 and Wii would lose badly if it were Sonys machine whos was the cheapest. eklineage

360 has a bigger library.....more A-AAA reviewed games, a more feature rich online. So ya.....its kinda "better" then PS3 in most ppls opinions.

:lol: you are using A DIFFERENT DIMENSION......a WHAT IF world where PS3 is cheaper. Sorry, no "alternate dimensions" allowed in SW.

wow over 600 posts in less than a month. Don't you have a job?

Who cares.. it only benefits consumers. Guess you fail to realize that.

he is a SW addict. what he is trying to achieve by making all these threads, I will never know.
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#24 deactivated-619c4c1a1a382
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Well It does help that Microsoft does none of the work when it comes to hardware. Sony isnt exactly a hardware manufacturer and they were forced into that position(Toshiba manufactures all Ps2's now)
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#25 dark-warmachine
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I don't see MS dropping the price any time soon and if they do it won't be by much. After all it's all about making profit. In Sony's case, they'll drop the price in the coming months to be more competitive with MS since they cut production cost by 35%.
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People need to stop taking Pachter's word as fact. He is often off on his predictions.

Personally, I don't see Sony knocking $100 off the PS3 when they are posting a LOSS for the first time 14yrs. My guess is that Sony knocks $50 off the PS3's price and bundles a game or two.

I also expect MS to be stubborn and not respond immediately, but eventually respond with their own $50 price cut.

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#27 obamanian
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The current Jasper chipset has both a 65 nm CPU and GPU.

This falls Valhalla chipset is ONE 65nm chip that has both the CPU and GPU. The cost savings will be immense.

You seriously think a PS3 09 price drop will go unoticed? If need be and backed against a wall like in 08.......MS can and will afford another price drop to have another wonderful holiday 08 repeat.

Sony isnt the only one with options....

Cole-Protocal

There is not PS3 price drop though, it is only a stupid rumor for now, based on nothing

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#28 Cole-Protocal
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

[QUOTE="patriots7672"]It's ironic how the 360 and Wii are saling more because they're cheaper and not better.

The 360 and Wii would lose badly if it were Sonys machine whos was the cheapest. eklineage

360 has a bigger library.....more A-AAA reviewed games, a more feature rich online. So ya.....its kinda "better" then PS3 in most ppls opinions.

:lol: you are using A DIFFERENT DIMENSION......a WHAT IF world where PS3 is cheaper. Sorry, no "alternate dimensions" allowed in SW.

wow over 600 posts in less than a month. Don't you have a job?

Who cares.. it only benefits consumers. Guess you fail to realize that.

lol my university is on strike. and ur wrong....it benefits consumers AND lems making debates against cows.

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[QUOTE="eklineage"][QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

360 has a bigger library.....more A-AAA reviewed games, a more feature rich online. So ya.....its kinda "better" then PS3 in most ppls opinions.

:lol: you are using A DIFFERENT DIMENSION......a WHAT IF world where PS3 is cheaper. Sorry, no "alternate dimensions" allowed in SW.

Cole-Protocal

wow over 600 posts in less than a month. Don't you have a job?

Who cares.. it only benefits consumers. Guess you fail to realize that.

lol my university is on strike. and ur wrong....it benefits consumers AND lems making debates against cows.

So you have plenty of free time. What do you do? Not play video games. I thought that you would be, pending that 360 has SO MUCH MORE A-AA GAMES AND FEATURE RICH ONLINE AND TEH SALES.

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#30 Cole-Protocal
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"][QUOTE="eklineage"] wow over 600 posts in less than a month. Don't you have a job?

Who cares.. it only benefits consumers. Guess you fail to realize that.

naydaslayer

lol my university is on strike. and ur wrong....it benefits consumers AND lems making debates against cows.

So you have plenty of free time. What do you do? Not play video games. I thought that you would be, pending that 360 has SO MUCH MORE A-AA GAMES AND FEATURE RICH ONLINE AND TEH SALES.

why not both? variety is the spice of life

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Why do fanboys always seem to hinge their hopes on price drops and exclusives?
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#32 imelitenow
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abything that the ps3 does the 360 can do 100000000000 times better
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#33 imelitenow
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

The current Jasper chipset has both a 65 nm CPU and GPU.

This falls Valhalla chipset is ONE 65nm chip that has both the CPU and GPU. The cost savings will be immense.

You seriously think a PS3 09 price drop will go unoticed? If need be and backed against a wall like in 08.......MS can and will afford another price drop to have another wonderful holiday 08 repeat.

Sony isnt the only one with options....

obamanian

There is not PS3 price drop though, it is only a stupid rumor for now, based on nothing

cows are always hyping the littlest rumor as the next coming of jesus, when in the real world it does nothing but fail

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#34 dark-warmachine
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]There is not PS3 price drop though, it is only a stupid rumor for now, based on nothing

imelitenow

cows are always hyping the littlest rumor as the next coming of jesus, when in the real world it does nothing but fail

A price cut is bound to happen sometime in the future.
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#35 imelitenow
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[QUOTE="imelitenow"][QUOTE="obamanian"]There is not PS3 price drop though, it is only a stupid rumor for now, based on nothing

dark-warmachine

cows are always hyping the littlest rumor as the next coming of jesus, when in the real world it does nothing but fail

A price cut is bound to happen sometime in the future.

sony is the only company thats not making a profit. they should just drop the ps3 all together

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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

The current Jasper chipset has both a 65 nm CPU and GPU.

This falls Valhalla chipset is ONE 65nm chip that has both the CPU and GPU. The cost savings will be immense.

You seriously think a PS3 09 price drop will go unoticed? If need be and backed against a wall like in 08.......MS can and will afford another price drop to have another wonderful holiday 08 repeat.

Sony isnt the only one with options....

yes, analysts have already predicted that PS3 will get a $100 price drop and 360 will get a $50 price drop. You could get an XBOX 360 ARCADE for $149.99... thats sick. Still half the price of the PS3 after price drop though.
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#37 campzor
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abything that the ps3 does the 360 can do 100000000000 times betterimelitenow
theres only 1 thing..count em , 1 thing that the 360 does better x 1000000000000 then the ps3..and thats break down.
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#38 gamefan274
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Yes but a lot of people will look at a $300 PS3 as a better value than a $250 or even a $200 360. I think the $400 price is just to much for some people to spend even for something they think is worth it. I think $300 is really the price that should increase PS3 sales drastically, will it outsell the 360 with a price drop? Maybe, but I dont think it is going to matter much to MS, the 360 will always do well.nikolai37
Exactly. The PS3 is a great buy but $400 is intimidating. Sony has cut feature to cut price which improved sales and didn't piss anyone off. I think if they sold a PS3 with no HDD at $300 it would sell like the 360 arcade. Lots of people want a PS3 but that kind of money is hard to get. I LOVE my PS3 and all the features but if Sony wants to make money make a $400 feature full PS3 (remember the 60gig?) a a $350 what we have now with a little less, and a $250-$300 barebones PS3 arcade sounds like the way to go.
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lol my university is on strike. and ur wrong....it benefits consumers AND lems making debates against cows.

Cole-Protocal

Any chance your univeristy is York? Anyways, I'm going off to University this Sept, wouldn't mind picking up a 360 if it's going to become more reliable and cost less.

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Ok too game fan, you can't have a PS3 without an HDD, I don't know why but you can't, try taking yours out and start the system without it, somthing should come up saying tthe system cannot be started. Anyway sony can't drop the price, remember when GS did an article about the ps3 costing about 450 dollers too make that means they are close too making money off of the there console so a price drop would put them in a deeper hole. O and what exzacly is there left too take out? nothing getting rid of the wifi would make it tougher on customers who don't have a modem/router right next too there console. Remember the 20 gig you ever wonder why next too no one has it? All sony can do is wait they cut just about every thing that they can out of the system what else can they cut.
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Why do fanboys always seem to hinge their hopes on price drops and exclusives?thinicer

they have nothing else to look forwards to in their bleak lives

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#42 AdmiralBison
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If the price drops on the 360 any more, the console may not make any profit. So i doubt it.Chris898
http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2009/01/13/pachter-predicts-360-price-cut-by-e3-2009/#comments

good chance it might

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#43 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="Chris898"]If the price drops on the 360 any more, the console may not make any profit. So i doubt it.AdmiralBison

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2009/01/13/pachter-predicts-360-price-cut-by-e3-2009/#comments

good chance it might still drop their prices to stay even more competitive. Maybe they can take a few losses. I'm not sure Sony can though

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Another point is MS is not taking a loss on their consoles like Sony is. So if either of the two companies was in a position for a price drop it would be MS and not Sony. To further add to this console companies make the most money off of software where MS is in first place and Sony is in last. I just can not see Sony cutting the price. Sony the company as a whole is in bad shape and worse then the other two consoles. They are posting a huge loss. So like I said before MS does not need to price cut but they are in a position to do so but Sony wants to but they can not.rybe1025
Agree. Plus all I hear is incredible early returns on Windows 7. They can hedge with profits from it if it's strong. Sony can't make cash strapped people buy another tv, or other electronics. Truly rough times for a great company.
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#45 -The_One-
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if sony can do it, then MS can afford one as well