PS3 for $400

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Yep, theyre full of crap, yet somehow WoW that has outsold all thier games, and the expansion dont come into this equation, I bet they will leave Sims 3 out of it aswell.

dgsag

Sometimes, i dont understand consolites... Make that most of the time...

We've shown time and time again that PC gaming is thriving, and they keep coming back for more...

Because you have sites like IGN telling them that Halo 3 is the "best FPS ever made," failing to remind them that 10 year old PC games have actually accomplished more than it.

LOL HAOL 3 SOLD 24MILLION COPIES WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH

LOLOLROFL LOL HALO3>ANY GENERIC POO ON PC

LOL

lol

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

I'm not actually trying to bash hermits here, believe it or not. I'm not even bashing Crysis. But there is not one inkling of PROOF this game has sold 3 million outside of what EA has said. What PC dev would cri moar and say "to hell with PC exclusivity" if their game sold 3 million in 8 months?

usmcjdk6

the logical solution, then, is to provide sales data that shows it to be wrong. can you provide this?

Sure.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/archive

Look at the archives and backtrack all the way to Launch if you want to. Crysis has never, EVER surpassed Call of Duty 4 in weekly sales, despite having a one month later release launch, and it being outsold by 4x1.

The proof is in the pudding.

Bush lies, troops die.

EA lies, hermits eat up their crap and say it's rocky road ice cream.

NPD....

The world doesn't revolve around America you know.

The main market for this game is Crytek's native Germany where Crysis dominated the charts for 5 months.

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

I'm not actually trying to bash hermits here, believe it or not. I'm not even bashing Crysis. But there is not one inkling of PROOF this game has sold 3 million outside of what EA has said. What PC dev would cri moar and say "to hell with PC exclusivity" if their game sold 3 million in 8 months?

usmcjdk6

the logical solution, then, is to provide sales data that shows it to be wrong. can you provide this?

Sure.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/archive

Look at the archives and backtrack all the way to Launch if you want to. Crysis has never, EVER surpassed Call of Duty 4 in weekly sales, despite having a one month later release launch, and it being outsold by 4x1.

The proof is in the pudding.

Bush lies, troops die.

EA lies, hermits eat up their crap and say it's rocky road ice cream.

Maybe Call of Duty 4 surpassed 3 million too?

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

I'm not actually trying to bash hermits here, believe it or not. I'm not even bashing Crysis. But there is not one inkling of PROOF this game has sold 3 million outside of what EA has said. What PC dev would cri moar and say "to hell with PC exclusivity" if their game sold 3 million in 8 months?

usmcjdk6

the logical solution, then, is to provide sales data that shows it to be wrong. can you provide this?

Sure.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/archive

Look at the archives and backtrack all the way to Launch if you want to. Crysis has never, EVER surpassed Call of Duty 4 in weekly sales, despite having a one month later release launch, and it being outsold by 4x1.

The proof is in the pudding.

Bush lies, troops die.

EA lies, hermits eat up their crap and say it's rocky road ice cream.

And has IW ever validated your claim with COD4 PC sales numbers? No, they just tell us how the combined platforms have sold.

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

I'm not actually trying to bash hermits here, believe it or not. I'm not even bashing Crysis. But there is not one inkling of PROOF this game has sold 3 million outside of what EA has said. What PC dev would cri moar and say "to hell with PC exclusivity" if their game sold 3 million in 8 months?

usmcjdk6

the logical solution, then, is to provide sales data that shows it to be wrong. can you provide this?

Sure.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/archive

Look at the archives and backtrack all the way to Launch if you want to. Crysis has never, EVER surpassed Call of Duty 4 in weekly sales, despite having a one month later release launch, and it being outsold by 4x1.

The proof is in the pudding.

Bush lies, troops die.

EA lies, hermits eat up their crap and say it's rocky road ice cream.

And let's add into the fact that according to http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/50939

PC games amount for a shocking 14% of gaming software revenue. There is simply no way that lower tier Top 10 PC game sold 3 million in 8 months.

All the facts point to EA LYING.

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

I'm not actually trying to bash hermits here, believe it or not. I'm not even bashing Crysis. But there is not one inkling of PROOF this game has sold 3 million outside of what EA has said. What PC dev would cri moar and say "to hell with PC exclusivity" if their game sold 3 million in 8 months?

usmcjdk6

the logical solution, then, is to provide sales data that shows it to be wrong. can you provide this?

Sure.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/archive

Look at the archives and backtrack all the way to Launch if you want to. Crysis has never, EVER surpassed Call of Duty 4 in weekly sales, despite having a one month later release launch, and it being outsold by 4x1.

The proof is in the pudding.

Bush lies, troops die.

EA lies, hermits eat up their crap and say it's rocky road ice cream.

And let's add into the fact that according to http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/50939

PC games amount for a shocking 14% of gaming software revenue. There is simply no way that lower tier Top 10 PC game sold 3 million in 8 months.

All the facts point to EA LYING.

THESE ARE USA NUMBERS.

PC GAMING DOMINATES EUROPE. CRYSIS WAS BEST-SELLER IN GERMANY FOR MONTHS.

Thank you. :)

Where is the logic in all of this? According to Crytek themselves, the fact that the game didn't sell enough, is the reason why they no longer will be making games exclusively on the PC.

Half Life 2 solid four and half million, and Crytek is throwing a fit over their game not selling enough, when its sold three million units?

Don't know what to say to be honest.

elbow2k

Valve just doesnt come out and say it.

Actions speak louder than words and Valve is already multiplatform like Crytek is soon to be.

So Crysis, a new IP with VERY restricting system requirements, is expected to keep pace with GTA 4 and Halo 3?

horrowhip

Crysis may require a powerful computer, but Halo 3 requires an Xbox 360 that HASN'T got RROD yet, so its also restricted in some ways :P

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]3 million. Didn't GTA IV hit that on April 29 - around lunchtime? Meu2k7

right... because GTA4 is SO normal in the industry...

It isn't like that game hasn't completely surpassed industry limits like Halo 3...

Gears of War sold 4.7 million copies.

And that is considered to be a HUGE success.

And that is after nearly 2 years out. So Crysis, a new IP with VERY restricting system requirements, is expected to keep pace with GTA 4 and Halo 3?

What a bunch of hypocrites you console fanboys are since those are the ONLY games that pull that level of success off...

Yep, theyre full of crap, yet somehow WoW that has outsold all thier games, and the expansion dont come into this equation, I bet they will leave Sims 3 out of it aswell.

And here you go: "I, Kevin Lowe, admit that World of Warcraft has sold more copies than Grand Theft Auto IV." Suck on that.

In fact, I don't even believe PC gaming is dying. I just like arguing contrary positions. In reality, I'm of the opinion that games like Assassin's Creed and The Orange Box are the future - you'll see the same games, developed to the same quality (crap in AC's case, stellar in OB's) on both platforms.

what was the last better than mediocre FPS on the PC. No wonder this game sold so well, the PC has been starving for something that the consoles didn't get as well. In all honesty, while that number may seem large, it pales in comparison to the number of PC gamers. :|
Nedemis

Halo 3 sales pale in comparison to the number of PC gamers too...

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

usmcjdk6

Ever consider counting DD? Gamestop, D2D, and EA Link have sold it since day one.

These NPD numbers dont include digital distribution.

These NPD numbers dont include digital distribution.

Cranler

My point exactly.

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

usmcjdk6

EA is lying because some kid on a forum told me so...

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

slickchris7777

EA is lying because some kid on a forum told me so...

You know, I bet MS lies about Halo 3 numbers. I only know about 20 people who own the game, nowhere near the 7 million MS LIED to us about. :(

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

These NPD numbers dont include digital distribution.

dgsag

My point exactly.

I remember a recent report saying Valve is nearly getting more revenue from DD than retail :)

And PCs are the king of Digital Distribution. I have 2 one-TB hard drives inside my desktop PC so I have plenty of storage (unlike consoles) for DD games I buy in the future when I become a Steam customer later on.

[QUOTE="slickchris7777"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

dgsag

EA is lying because some kid on a forum told me so...

You know, I bet MS lies about Halo 3 numbers. I only know about 20 people who own the game, nowhere near the 7 million MS LIED to us about. :(

You could multiply the Crysis owners I know by infinity...and you still won't beat that.

[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

usmcjdk6

Ever consider counting DD? Gamestop, D2D, and EA Link have sold it since day one.

According to the full article at http://www.gamerscircle.net/2005/01/11/wow-breaks-sales-records/

World of Warcraft has sold an AMAZING 82k units. Wow, how stellar, it's painfully obvious that this will significantly bump up the total sales of PC game juggernaut World of Warcraft.

Get your head out of your rectum. EA LIED.

And yet there's 10 million active subscribers out there. Whose case are you trying to help, yours or mine?

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

dgsag

Ever consider counting DD? Gamestop, D2D, and EA Link have sold it since day one.

According to the full article at http://www.gamerscircle.net/2005/01/11/wow-breaks-sales-records/

World of Warcraft has sold an AMAZING 82k units. Wow, how stellar, it's painfully obvious that this will significantly bump up the total sales of PC game juggernaut World of Warcraft.

Get your head out of your rectum. EA LIED.

And yet there's 10 million active subscribers out there. Whose case are you trying to help, yours or mine?

So the largest PC selling game barely manages to sell 82k on DD? Yet Crysis which has afforded us NO SALES PROOF is somehow managed to garner hundreds of thousands.

I'm not saying PC game is dying. I'm saying EA is lying about Crysis sales.

[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

usmcjdk6

Ever consider counting DD? Gamestop, D2D, and EA Link have sold it since day one.

According to the full article at http://www.gamerscircle.net/2005/01/11/wow-breaks-sales-records/

World of Warcraft has sold an AMAZING 82k units. Wow, how stellar, it's painfully obvious that this will significantly bump up the total sales of PC game juggernaut World of Warcraft.

Get your head out of your rectum. EA LIED.

And yet there's 10 million active subscribers out there. Whose case are you trying to help, yours or mine?

So the largest PC selling game barely manages to sell 82k on DD? Yet Crysis which has afforded us NO SALES PROOF is somehow managed to garner hundreds of thousands.

I'm not saying PC game is dying. I'm saying EA is lying about Crysis sales.

WHAT PROOF IS THERE? Why would a company lie about its sales? EA has been upfront about what has sold well and what hasn't. Why would they specifically LIE about 3 million?

3 million out of the hundreds of millions that have PC...not that many people.EstralS

7 million for Halo 3 out of the hundreds of millions of people who own a console... not that many people.

Wow, impressive. What is Crysis Warhead? An expansion?Fignewton50

Seeing as the end of the first crysis was "halo2'd" (albeit a lot more impressively) I would hope it was a sequel.

[QUOTE="EstralS"]3 million out of the hundreds of millions that have PC...not that many people.dgsag

7 million for Halo 3 out of the hundreds of millions of people who own a console... not that many people.

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

dgsag

Ever consider counting DD? Gamestop, D2D, and EA Link have sold it since day one.

According to the full article at http://www.gamerscircle.net/2005/01/11/wow-breaks-sales-records/

World of Warcraft has sold an AMAZING 82k units. Wow, how stellar, it's painfully obvious that this will significantly bump up the total sales of PC game juggernaut World of Warcraft.

Get your head out of your rectum. EA LIED.

And yet there's 10 million active subscribers out there. Whose case are you trying to help, yours or mine?

So the largest PC selling game barely manages to sell 82k on DD? Yet Crysis which has afforded us NO SALES PROOF is somehow managed to garner hundreds of thousands.

I'm not saying PC game is dying. I'm saying EA is lying about Crysis sales.

WHAT PROOF IS THERE? Why would a company lie about its sales? EA has been upfront about what has sold well and what hasn't. Why would they specifically LIE about 3 million?

It's a flagship title that, for the most part, has flopped on sales. People don't normally buy what doesn't sell well. EA has every reason to boost this titles performance up waaaaay higher than it actually is. I'd put the number closer to 1.7-2 million and that's still stretching it. If 3 million people owned an 8 month old PC game, I don't care how good or bad the online is...PEOPLE WOULD BE FLOODING ONLINE.

[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

usmcjdk6

Ever consider counting DD? Gamestop, D2D, and EA Link have sold it since day one.

According to the full article at http://www.gamerscircle.net/2005/01/11/wow-breaks-sales-records/

World of Warcraft has sold an AMAZING 82k units. Wow, how stellar, it's painfully obvious that this will significantly bump up the total sales of PC game juggernaut World of Warcraft.

Get your head out of your rectum. EA LIED.

So I'm looking at March numbers for PC sales in the EU and Germany.

In the EU Crysis never broke 6th.

In Germany Crysis fluctuated between 1st and 4th. Germany's software sales during Crysis' release period have also been less than 700mil USD. Add in the inflated prices, and you've got a market about 1/16th the size of the US market.

EA is lying hermits. Sorry...

usmcjdk6

Why have you taken this so personally? You really have nothing to go by, yet not only are you saying the numbers aren't correct, you're saying EA is lying about the numbers to boost sales. Until you provide a reputable source that refutes the 3 million claim, your just blowing hot air. Although, truth is, EA is the most reputable source, so....

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]what was the last better than mediocre FPS on the PC. No wonder this game sold so well, the PC has been starving for something that the consoles didn't get as well. In all honesty, while that number may seem large, it pales in comparison to the number of PC gamers. :|
VoodooGamer

Halo 3 sales pale in comparison to the number of PC gamers too...

3 million sucks
Nedemis

What? :?

3 million copies of a game sold NEVER sucks.

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="EstralS"]3 million out of the hundreds of millions that have PC...not that many people.Nedemis

7 million for Halo 3 out of the hundreds of millions of people who own a console... not that many people.

PC user =/= PC gamer. I am posting on a work PC right now. No Crysis here :(

[QUOTE="familycircusfan"]It would have sold twice that if they had made a slightly worse version on 360 with easier to use sandbox.Rougehunter

/sarcasim

it could

good job cutting out the main point of the post. typical fanboy.
Nedemis

the most blatant fanboys are usually those that call others fanboys.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]what was the last better than mediocre FPS on the PC. No wonder this game sold so well, the PC has been starving for something that the consoles didn't get as well. In all honesty, while that number may seem large, it pales in comparison to the number of PC gamers. :|
Nedemis

Halo 3 sales pale in comparison to the number of PC gamers too...

Not everyone has the same kind of PC

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="EstralS"]3 million out of the hundreds of millions that have PC...not that many people.Nedemis

7 million for Halo 3 out of the hundreds of millions of people who own a console... not that many people.

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]good job cutting out the main point of the post. typical fanboy.
Hewkii

the most blatant fanboys are usually those that call others fanboys.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]what was the last better than mediocre FPS on the PC. No wonder this game sold so well, the PC has been starving for something that the consoles didn't get as well. In all honesty, while that number may seem large, it pales in comparison to the number of PC gamers. :|
Nedemis

Halo 3 sales pale in comparison to the number of PC gamers too...

Think of it this way, Halo 3 is specifically designed to target a majority of the 360's audience.

Crysis is for the hardcore fanatics who love shooters and have a high quality system to boot.

[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]3 million sucks
Nedemis

What? :?

3 million copies of a game sold NEVER sucks.

I took out the part that matters.

You said 3 Million copies of a game sucks...

no matter how you say it, that NEVER is true, so who is the real fanboy?

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="familycircusfan"]It would have sold twice that if they had made a slightly worse version on 360 with easier to use sandbox.Zero5000X

/sarcasim

it could

No it honestly couldn't, not just graphics here either. There are thousands of visable bits of foliage in Crysis, and most of which react to physical events like bullet impact. No game on a console has ever done that to my knowledge, and probably never will.

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]what was the last better than mediocre FPS on the PC. No wonder this game sold so well, the PC has been starving for something that the consoles didn't get as well. In all honesty, while that number may seem large, it pales in comparison to the number of PC gamers. :|
dgsag

Halo 3 sales pale in comparison to the number of PC gamers too...

Not everyone has the same kind of PC