PS3 for $400

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

You can't just make a game use 1GB less RAM.

It doesn't work that way.

Don't try to say it is possible with "optimization" unless you are a programmer. And you obviously aren't because you ARE saying that.

Sooshy

whats the RAM (system and Video) requirements for Assassin's Creed, The Orange Box and Call of Duty 4?

What is the resolution of thoses games on consoles?

Yes, my OS is running 300MB in backround... I have 2gigs of ram and 768Mb on video card...

I don't know about you, but gears looks better on PC... mostly when I can play native 1200P... And if I had Vista I would be running DX10+AA.

If you want I could show you how much ram Gears of war is eating on my PC.

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

You can't just make a game use 1GB less RAM.

It doesn't work that way.

Don't try to say it is possible with "optimization" unless you are a programmer. And you obviously aren't because you ARE saying that.

Bebi_vegeta

whats the RAM (system and Video) requirements for Assassin's Creed, The Orange Box and Call of Duty 4?

What is the resolution of thoses games on consoles?

Yes, my OS is running 300MB in backround... I have 2gigs of ram and 768Mb on video card...

I don't know about you, but gears looks better on PC... mostly when I can play native 1200P... And if I had Vista I would be running DX10+AA.

If you want I could show you how much ram Gears of war is eating on my PC.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

You can't just make a game use 1GB less RAM.

It doesn't work that way.

Don't try to say it is possible with "optimization" unless you are a programmer. And you obviously aren't because you ARE saying that.

Sooshy

whats the RAM (system and Video) requirements for Assassin's Creed, The Orange Box and Call of Duty 4?

What is the resolution of thoses games on consoles?

Yes, my OS is running 300MB in backround... I have 2gigs of ram and 768Mb on video card...

I don't know about you, but gears looks better on PC... mostly when I can play native 1200P... And if I had Vista I would be running DX10+AA.

If you want I could show you how much ram Gears of war is eating on my PC.

Alright let's test it then... what would be minimal settings.... resolution & details?

That's nice that you can run it better than the 360, but my point is that if you run it on the minimal settings, it's not going to look as good yet it require more power.

Sooshy

.... you clearly don't understand how games or programming work.

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

You can't just make a game use 1GB less RAM.

It doesn't work that way.

Don't try to say it is possible with "optimization" unless you are a programmer. And you obviously aren't because you ARE saying that.

Bebi_vegeta

whats the RAM (system and Video) requirements for Assassin's Creed, The Orange Box and Call of Duty 4?

What is the resolution of thoses games on consoles?

Yes, my OS is running 300MB in backround... I have 2gigs of ram and 768Mb on video card...

I don't know about you, but gears looks better on PC... mostly when I can play native 1200P... And if I had Vista I would be running DX10+AA.

If you want I could show you how much ram Gears of war is eating on my PC.

Alright let's test it then... what would be minimal settings.... resolution & details?

First of all, I couldn't tell you. It's not going to be 720p, though.

Secondly, you have 2GB of ram, and 768MB of video memory. The 360 has a total of 512MB to share. Now, I know the PC version maxed out looks better than the 360 version, but the 360 version isn't too far behind and it has less than a quarter of the memory your machine has. See what I'm saying?

???

First of all, I couldn't tell you. It's not going to be 720p, though.

Secondly, you have 2GB of ram, and 768MB of video memory. The 360 has a total of 512MB to share. Now, I know the PC version maxed out looks better than the 360 version, but the 360 version isn't too far behind and it has less than a quarter of the memory your machine has. See what I'm saying?

Sooshy

the 360 also runs the game at a quarter what his machine does...

He gets like 120 FPS.

The 360 gets an unstable, fluctuating 30 FPS.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Yes, my OS is running 300MB in backround... I have 2gigs of ram and 768Mb on video card...

I don't know about you, but gears looks better on PC... mostly when I can play native 1200P... And if I had Vista I would be running DX10+AA.

If you want I could show you how much ram Gears of war is eating on my PC.

Sooshy

Alright let's test it then... what would be minimal settings.... resolution & details?

First of all, I couldn't tell you. It's not going to be 720p, though.

Secondly, you have 2GB of ram, and 768MB of video memory. The 360 has a total of 512MB to share. Now, I know the PC version maxed out looks better than the 360 version, but the 360 version isn't too far behind and it has less than a quarter of the memory your machine has. See what I'm saying?

I did a few tests. Running the game @ 720p and then 1200p... Low and High details... ram stayed @ 700MB. Ram was dropping when I was playing more then 2 minutes.

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Yes, my OS is running 300MB in backround... I have 2gigs of ram and 768Mb on video card...

I don't know about you, but gears looks better on PC... mostly when I can play native 1200P... And if I had Vista I would be running DX10+AA.

If you want I could show you how much ram Gears of war is eating on my PC.

Bebi_vegeta

Alright let's test it then... what would be minimal settings.... resolution & details?

First of all, I couldn't tell you. It's not going to be 720p, though.

Secondly, you have 2GB of ram, and 768MB of video memory. The 360 has a total of 512MB to share. Now, I know the PC version maxed out looks better than the 360 version, but the 360 version isn't too far behind and it has less than a quarter of the memory your machine has. See what I'm saying?

I did a few tests. Running the game @ 720p and then 1200p... Low and High details... ram stayed @ 700MB. Ram was dropping when I was playing more then 2 minutes.

were you monitoring overall system RAM use or individual program RAM usage?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Alright let's test it then... what would be minimal settings.... resolution & details?

horrowhip

First of all, I couldn't tell you. It's not going to be 720p, though.

Secondly, you have 2GB of ram, and 768MB of video memory. The 360 has a total of 512MB to share. Now, I know the PC version maxed out looks better than the 360 version, but the 360 version isn't too far behind and it has less than a quarter of the memory your machine has. See what I'm saying?

I did a few tests. Running the game @ 720p and then 1200p... Low and High details... ram stayed @ 700MB. Ram was dropping when I was playing more then 2 minutes.

were you monitoring overall system RAM use or individual program RAM usage?

Just good old monitoring overall system ram... I know it's very unprecise way of doing it. I should Even do a fresh restart of my PC, but it just gives a clear indication on how much this game is not a ram killer.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="kostmpekir"]I doubt it sold a million TBH, otherwise why would Crytek say tey will never develop PC excluisve games ever again ?Deihmos

What is there to doubt? EA announced the million mark after a couple weeks.

EA announced how many units were shipped to retailers. Half of them could still be sitting on shelves or in the bargain bin.

.... no. Go be a fanboy somewhere else.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="kostmpekir"]I doubt it sold a million TBH, otherwise why would Crytek say tey will never develop PC excluisve games ever again ?Deihmos

What is there to doubt? EA announced the million mark after a couple weeks.

EA announced how many units were shipped to retailers. Half of them could still be sitting on shelves or in the bargain bin.

So platinum status now includes shipped copies?

That specific report included Orange Box and Rock Band in the same list, I somehow don't think those numbers meant shipped.

Just good old system ram... I know it's very unprecise way of doing it. I should Even do a fresh restart of my PC, but it just gives a clear indication on how much this game is not a ram killer.Bebi_vegeta

oh... well... that includes everything you have running.

OS, Gears of War, any anti-virus, internet browser, and anything else.

That is horribly inaccurate.

XP alone would account for like half of that of that 700MB. And if you have Norton(which sucks) there is another 100MB assuming you didn't disable it. If it is some other anti-virus or if you turned it off.. then it wouldn't be too bad but still.

Nice sales :) Not surprising though, everyone who upgrades their PC buys Crysis to make it worth it :)

The funny thing is that if Crytek goes multiplatform their next game will be lucky to pass 1mln on PC

Nice sales :) Not surprising though, everyone who upgrades their PC buys Crysis to make it worth it :)

The funny thing is that if Crytek goes multiplatform their next game will be lucky to pass 1mln on PC

AdrianWerner

And then they'll end up selling the same amount of copies multi-plat as they did with an exclusive...

[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Alright let's test it then... what would be minimal settings.... resolution & details?

Bebi_vegeta

First of all, I couldn't tell you. It's not going to be 720p, though.

Secondly, you have 2GB of ram, and 768MB of video memory. The 360 has a total of 512MB to share. Now, I know the PC version maxed out looks better than the 360 version, but the 360 version isn't too far behind and it has less than a quarter of the memory your machine has. See what I'm saying?

I did a few tests. Running the game @ 720p and then 1200p... Low and High details... ram stayed @ 700MB. Ram was dropping when I was playing more then 2 minutes.

were you monitoring overall system RAM use or individual program RAM usage?

Just good old monitoring overall system ram... I know it's very unprecise way of doing it. I should Even do a fresh restart of my PC, but it just gives a clear indication on how much this game is not a ram killer.

It could have easily been 5 Million at least if not for PIRACY. JCblueside

the silver medal is not a death sentence.

It could have easily been 5 Million at least if not for PIRACY. JCblueside

Yeah and if everybody would share half their income with poor people there would be no hunger in the world

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I did a few tests. Running the game @ 720p and then 1200p... Low and High details... ram stayed @ 700MB. Ram was dropping when I was playing more then 2 minutes.

Sooshy

were you monitoring overall system RAM use or individual program RAM usage?

Just good old monitoring overall system ram... I know it's very unprecise way of doing it. I should Even do a fresh restart of my PC, but it just gives a clear indication on how much this game is not a ram killer.

PC uses more ram... Whoopy doooooo!

I still have too much ram for the game and your X360 doesn't have ram to spare... Maybe because I was running the game @ 120FPS on low resolution.

Like I said, ram was drooping when I was playing more then 2 minutes.

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I did a few tests. Running the game @ 720p and then 1200p... Low and High details... ram stayed @ 700MB. Ram was dropping when I was playing more then 2 minutes.

Bebi_vegeta

were you monitoring overall system RAM use or individual program RAM usage?

Just good old monitoring overall system ram... I know it's very unprecise way of doing it. I should Even do a fresh restart of my PC, but it just gives a clear indication on how much this game is not a ram killer.

PC uses more ram... Whoopy doooooo!

I still have too much ram for the game and your X360 doesn't have ram to spare... Maybe because I was running the game @ 120FPS on low resolution.

Like I said, ram was drooping when I was playing more then 2 minutes.

PC uses more ram... Whoopy doooooo!

I still have too much ram for the game and your X360 doesn't have ram to spare... Maybe because I was running the game @ 120FPS on low resolution.

Bebi_vegeta

[QUOTE="JCblueside"]It could have easily been 5 Million at least if not for PIRACY. Hewkii

the silver medal is not a death sentence.

Huh? :?

My point is that developers optomize their games on consoles. It's harder on PC because different brand parts and the architecture varies. You run into bugs and complatibility issues.
Sooshy

[QUOTE="Sooshy"]My point is that developers optomize their games on consoles. It's harder on PC because different brand parts and the architecture varies. You run into bugs and complatibility issues.
AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="JCblueside"]It could have easily been 5 Million at least if not for PIRACY. AdrianWerner

Yeah and if everybody would share half their income with poor people there would be no hunger in the world

Are you saying that those who are wealthy enough will work for the lower classes?

Huh? :?

JCblueside

don't complain if you did pretty well anyway.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="JCblueside"]It could have easily been 5 Million at least if not for PIRACY. JCblueside

Yeah and if everybody would share half their income with poor people there would be no hunger in the world

Are you saying that those who are wealthy enough will work for the lower classes?

Well, it is as realistic as expecting no piracy :)

"if not for piracy" argument is just silly, with it we leave the reality and enter a fantasy land

Nice sales :) Not surprising though, everyone who upgrades their PC buys Crysis to make it worth it :)

The funny thing is that if Crytek goes multiplatform their next game will be lucky to pass 1mln on PC

AdrianWerner

Like Far Cry 2 isn't going to sell one million? :|

The time of the Exclusive is at an End.

Like Far Cry 2 isn't going to sell one million? :|PS3_3DO

It might, but I don't see it reaching 3mlns like Crysis did . I doubt it will even reach 2mlns

The time of the Exclusive is at an End.

PS3_3DO

The ammount of exclusive PC games will propably increase in future, they just won;'t be the hugely expensive ones

According to the latest issue of PC Gamer UK, Crysis has sold a whopping 3 million copies in half a year. I don't think I'm allowed to post scans, but I'm sure some of my fellow hermits can confirm this.

Also, Crysis Warhead is apparently going to be revealed in next month's issue... :D

BUT TEH PC GAMING IZ DYING!!??!?!?!

dgsag

Did you read the article?

And Crytek is STILL complaining about piracy? What a bunch of whiners.foxhound_fox

Wow, impressive. What is Crysis Warhead? An expansion?Fignewton50

Crysis 2 man, its spos'd to be a 3 game series.

I dont believe I need to argue with consolites anymore, its just gotten to the point where everything speaks for itself. :)Meu2k7

*yawn* ...congrats.

And Crytek is STILL complaining about piracy? What a bunch of whiners.

3 million copies at fifty bucks a pop is $150 million gross... even with a 100 million dollar budget they still are pulling in $50 million... and the last time I checked, the only games with that kind of budget were Shenmue and GTAIV.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And Crytek is STILL complaining about piracy? What a bunch of whiners.

3 million copies at fifty bucks a pop is $150 million gross... even with a 100 million dollar budget they still are pulling in $50 million... and the last time I checked, the only games with that kind of budget were Shenmue and GTAIV.Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And Crytek is STILL complaining about piracy? What a bunch of whiners.

3 million copies at fifty bucks a pop is $150 million gross... even with a 100 million dollar budget they still are pulling in $50 million... and the last time I checked, the only games with that kind of budget were Shenmue and GTAIV.Makari

Packaging

Materials design

Shipping costs

Marketing

Disc pressing

all of these things and a few more take a slice of the pie. I'm sure they make even less than that $38. Maybe ~$20? Maybe less?

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And Crytek is STILL complaining about piracy? What a bunch of whiners.

3 million copies at fifty bucks a pop is $150 million gross... even with a 100 million dollar budget they still are pulling in $50 million... and the last time I checked, the only games with that kind of budget were Shenmue and GTAIV.Dreams-Visions

Packaging

Materials design

Shipping costs

Marketing

Disc pressing

all of these things and a few more take a slice of the pie. I'm sure they make even less than that $38. Maybe ~$20? Maybe less?

It just proves that good marketing = great sales.

I just love those douchebags like Ubisoft with their crappy ports and virtually zero marketing. So after that kind of game sells like crap on a PC, they instantly go to public with statements like "OMG PC GAMING IS DYING".

Well,

NOW WHAT BIATCHEZ?!

A game with such huge system requirements?

That is amazing.

Fantastic news.

It's going to be attention-grabbing to see how many weeks, or even days, "Crysis 2" will need in order to transcend 1,000,000.

Marketing

Dreams-Visions

Crysis's marketing only seemed to consist of internet ads and magazine advertisments.

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And Crytek is STILL complaining about piracy? What a bunch of whiners.

3 million copies at fifty bucks a pop is $150 million gross... even with a 100 million dollar budget they still are pulling in $50 million... and the last time I checked, the only games with that kind of budget were Shenmue and GTAIV.Dreams-Visions

Packaging

Materials design

Shipping costs

Marketing

Disc pressing

all of these things and a few more take a slice of the pie. I'm sure they make even less than that $38. Maybe ~$20? Maybe less?

Materials design=What?

Shipping costs=How much shipping cost per unit do you think a tiny box going in thousands will have?:?

Marketing?What does that have to do with the sales?Marketing is a pre-determined expense and is a part of the cost of making the game.

Disc presing?Oh comon that's pennies.