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#1 -Renegade
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In the same simExchange report we referenced in the January game sales preview, analyst Jesse Divnich has provided hardware sales predictions as follows:

Xbox 360: 289,000 units
PS3: 200,000 units
Wii: 403,000 units
DS: 460,000 units
PSP: 250,000 units

Interestingly, although Sony's console continues to trail behind the competition, it does appear that the PS3 is continuing to narrow the margin by which it's outsold by the Xbox 360. Divnich sees this as a significant trend.

"Although there were no momentous changes in hardware trends, it should be noted that the Xbox 360 is expected to outsell the PS3 by 1.44 to 1, a decrease from November's 1.65 to 1 and December's 1.58 to 1. We consider this noteworthy as neither system had any superior exclusive releases or price drops in January and could be an early sign of the PS3 gathering momentum on the Xbox 360," Divnich noted.

If 2008 is indeed going to be a comeback year for the PS3, as more and more pundits are suggesting these days, then the console will need to continue to close that gap and even outsell the Xbox 360 occasionally. Another price drop combined with top software like Metal Gear Solid IV could perhaps help it do just that.

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#2 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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i thought the ps3 was alot closer in sales than that.
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i thought the ps3 was alot closer in sales than that. scottiescott238

Its in the US.

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#4 PBSnipes
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It'll certainly be interesting to see what the console landscape looks like post-GTA4. Sony has the better game library between then and now (assuming MGS4 is still on for a Q2 release) but MS has the ability to significantly lower the 360's price (considering they only dropped the Pro's price by $50 over its first 2 years) and generally does a good job with their bundles (better than Spiderman 3 on BR anyway).
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It'll certainly be interesting to see what the console landscape looks like post-GTA4. Sony has the better game library between then and now (assuming MGS4 is still on for a Q2 release) but MS has the ability to significantly lower the 360's price (considering they only dropped the Pro's price by $50 over its first 2 years) and generally does a good job with their bundles (better than Spiderman 3 on BR anyway). PBSnipes

its going to be very interesting

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#6 Riverwolf007
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Completely made up numbers FTW?

Completely made up numbers that show an almost 100K lead for the 360 over the PS3 for the further win?

I don't even understand this place anymore.....where am I??? Is this the future??

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#7 xsubtownerx
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It'll certainly be interesting to see what the console landscape looks like post-GTA4. Sony has the better game library between then and now (assuming MGS4 is still on for a Q2 release) but MS has the ability to significantly lower the 360's price (considering they only dropped the Pro's price by $50 over its first 2 years) and generally does a good job with their bundles (better than Spiderman 3 on BR anyway). PBSnipes

There's a thread for this already.. but FYI, the ps3 line up is not better than the 360 or wii.

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#8 gatorteen
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Completely made up numbers FTW?

Completely made up numbers that show an almost 100K lead for the 360 over the PS3 for the further win?

I don't even understand this place anymore.....where am I??? Is this the future??

Riverwolf007

I guess you no nothing about statistic.

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#9 ReverseCycology
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The Playstation brand will reign supreme again with the help of the PS3.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

Completely made up numbers FTW?

Completely made up numbers that show an almost 100K lead for the 360 over the PS3 for the further win?

I don't even understand this place anymore.....where am I??? Is this the future??

gatorteen

I guess you no nothing about statistic.

No I don't seem to no about statistic. Is that in a fps?
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In the same simExchange report we referenced in the January game sales preview, analyst Jesse Divnich has provided hardware sales predictions as follows:

Xbox 360: 289,000 units
PS3: 200,000 units
Wii: 403,000 units
DS: 460,000 units
PSP: 250,000 units

Interestingly, although Sony's console continues to trail behind the competition, it does appear that the PS3 is continuing to narrow the margin by which it's outsold by the Xbox 360. Divnich sees this as a significant trend.

"Although there were no momentous changes in hardware trends, it should be noted that the Xbox 360 is expected to outsell the PS3 by 1.44 to 1, a decrease from November's 1.65 to 1 and December's 1.58 to 1. We consider this noteworthy as neither system had any superior exclusive releases or price drops in January and could be an early sign of the PS3 gathering momentum on the Xbox 360," Divnich noted.

If 2008 is indeed going to be a comeback year for the PS3, as more and more pundits are suggesting these days, then the console will need to continue to close that gap and even outsell the Xbox 360 occasionally. Another price drop combined with top software like Metal Gear Solid IV could perhaps help it do just that.

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360 PS3 Wii

Jan/2007 Actual NPD Results | 294,000 | 244,000 | 436,000

Divnich Jan 2008 'PS 3 is Gaining Analysis' 289,000 200,000 403,000

Or you could compare last year's actual NPD results against this year's estimate from Divnich. Funny how that doesn't look like the PS3 gaining momentum anymore, now does it?

Gaining in reverse. So much more the analysis. You should know by now that these commentators are lacking.

LMAO

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#12 ss_49
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Hmmm let's see...

- Ridiculously stacked 2008 release schedule? Check.

- Blu-Ray claims a massive victory and finally emerges as the next-gen format of choice? Check.

- Sony dumps millions into a bold new advertising campaign? Check.

- PS3 price drops (and drops again) and is finally approaching the coveted "mass-market price point"? Check.

If the projections you've posted are even remotely accurate when the NPD numbers drop, I'd be shocked.

If the ps3 doesn't outsell the 360 State-side last month/this month/all following months...all hope is lost for Sony. :? EDIT:...in the US :P

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i think ill wait till the actual numbers come out before i make a statement about how the incredible year, according to sony fans, of the ps3 is going so far
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Hmmm let's see...

- Ridiculously stacked 2008 release schedule? Check.

- Blu-Ray claims a massive victory and finally emerges as the next-gen format of choice? Check.

- Sony dumps millions into a bold new advertising campaign? Check.

- PS3 price drops (and drops again) and is finally approaching the coveted "mass-market price point"? Check.

If the projections you've posted are even remotely accurate when the NPD numbers drop, I'd be shocked.

If the ps3 doesn't outsell the 360 State-side last month/this month/all following months...all hope is lost for Sony. :?

ss_49

Blockbuster games: PENDING

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[QUOTE="ss_49"]

Hmmm let's see...

- Ridiculously stacked 2008 release schedule? Check.

- Blu-Ray claims a massive victory and finally emerges as the next-gen format of choice? Check.

- Sony dumps millions into a bold new advertising campaign? Check.

- PS3 price drops (and drops again) and is finally approaching the coveted "mass-market price point"? Check.

If the projections you've posted are even remotely accurate when the NPD numbers drop, I'd be shocked.

If the ps3 doesn't outsell the 360 State-side last month/this month/all following months...all hope is lost for Sony. :?

xsubtownerx

Blockbuster games: PENDING

they were pending last year and still outsold the 360 in '07

forget gathering, the ps3 has claimed the momentum outright

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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Hmmm let's see...

- Ridiculously stacked 2008 release schedule? Check.

- Blu-Ray claims a massive victory and finally emerges as the next-gen format of choice? Check.

- Sony dumps millions into a bold new advertising campaign? Check.

- PS3 price drops (and drops again) and is finally approaching the coveted "mass-market price point"? Check.

If the projections you've posted are even remotely accurate when the NPD numbers drop, I'd be shocked.

If the ps3 doesn't outsell the 360 State-side last month/this month/all following months...all hope is lost for Sony. :?

jetpropilot

Blockbuster games: PENDING

they were pending last year and still outsold the 360 in '07

forget gathering, the ps3 has claimed the momentum outright

.

Eh, it was their first year. They do have momentum but not enough to do real damage to the 360 or even nudge the wii. In my opinion, 2009 will be a good time to buy a ps3. Basicly when FFXIII comes out, and home gets good reviews, and blu-ray movies come down in price and release older, good, classic movies. And having only 2 SKUs wouldn't hurt either.

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The Playstation brand will reign supreme again with the help of the PS3.

ReverseCycology

GOD! I hope not. PS3 is a waste of money and if that's the way console gaming is headed count me out. I HATE my PS3 and wish I never wasted my money on it.

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[QUOTE="jetpropilot"]they were pending last year and still outsold the 360 in '07

forget gathering, the ps3 has claimed the momentum outright

blue_hazy_basic

oh look another cow too scared to post this under his main account or ban dodging. PS3 got GUBBED in the US by the 360 and Wii last year, its getting pannelled again this year.

You already know this but USA does not = the world that is why PS3 outsold 360 last year and will do the same this year.

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[QUOTE="jetpropilot"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Hmmm let's see...

- Ridiculously stacked 2008 release schedule? Check.

- Blu-Ray claims a massive victory and finally emerges as the next-gen format of choice? Check.

- Sony dumps millions into a bold new advertising campaign? Check.

- PS3 price drops (and drops again) and is finally approaching the coveted "mass-market price point"? Check.

If the projections you've posted are even remotely accurate when the NPD numbers drop, I'd be shocked.

If the ps3 doesn't outsell the 360 State-side last month/this month/all following months...all hope is lost for Sony. :?

blue_hazy_basic

Blockbuster games: PENDING

they were pending last year and still outsold the 360 in '07

forget gathering, the ps3 has claimed the momentum outright

oh look another cow too scared to post this under his main account or ban dodging. PS3 got GUBBED in the US by the 360 and Wii last year, its getting pannelled again this year.

better watch yourself

making accusations without a shred of proof will land you in hot water

the ps3 outsold the 360 in 07 with a weak game library last year

they outright snatched the momentum and will continue to make huge strides this year

try basing your posts on facts.........

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Sadly my PS3 is continuing to gather dust tell Q2-Q3 of 08 if Sony lives up to their word which isn't worth a damn atm.
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#22 Adrian_Cloud
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Playstation 3 should definately gain ground, with blu-ray taking over and HD technology becoming more appearant in househoulds the pS3 seems like a perfect fit. Combined with an excellent line-up and continuing trend in decreasing the sales gaps between 360 worldwide, pS3 coming a lot closer to 360 is no longer speculation.

Q2 2008
Grand Theft Auto IV*
Metal Gear Solid 4 w Online
Haze
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
Hot Shot Golf 5
MLB '08 The Show

Q3
Little Big Planet
Metal Gear Solid Online
Tekken 6
Yakuza 3
Disgea 3
Singstar

E3 (2009 titles) - Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Team ICO game 1+2, Twisted Metal PS3, Dark Cloud 3, FFXIII, VsXIII, Eight days, Getaway 3,L.A Noire, Afrika, Motorstorm 2, Star Ocean4, KH3, Wild Arms 6)

Q4
Wardevil
Gran Turismo 5
Resitance 2
Killzone 2
White Knight Story
Socom: Confrontation
The Agency
Infamous
Resident Evil 5*

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#23 stvee101
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[QUOTE="jetpropilot"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Hmmm let's see...

- Ridiculously stacked 2008 release schedule? Check.

- Blu-Ray claims a massive victory and finally emerges as the next-gen format of choice? Check.

- Sony dumps millions into a bold new advertising campaign? Check.

- PS3 price drops (and drops again) and is finally approaching the coveted "mass-market price point"? Check.

If the projections you've posted are even remotely accurate when the NPD numbers drop, I'd be shocked.

If the ps3 doesn't outsell the 360 State-side last month/this month/all following months...all hope is lost for Sony. :?

blue_hazy_basic

Blockbuster games: PENDING

they were pending last year and still outsold the 360 in '07

forget gathering, the ps3 has claimed the momentum outright

oh look another cow too scared to post this under his main account or ban dodging. PS3 got GUBBED in the US by the 360 and Wii last year, its getting pannelled again this year.

Just because he's a level 2,why does that mean he's posting in a fake account.Weren't you a level 2 once? ;)

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[QUOTE="scottiescott238"]i thought the ps3 was alot closer in sales than that. gatorteen

Its in the US.

O thanks

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="jetpropilot"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Hmmm let's see...

- Ridiculously stacked 2008 release schedule? Check.

- Blu-Ray claims a massive victory and finally emerges as the next-gen format of choice? Check.

- Sony dumps millions into a bold new advertising campaign? Check.

- PS3 price drops (and drops again) and is finally approaching the coveted "mass-market price point"? Check.

If the projections you've posted are even remotely accurate when the NPD numbers drop, I'd be shocked.

If the ps3 doesn't outsell the 360 State-side last month/this month/all following months...all hope is lost for Sony. :?

jetpropilot

Blockbuster games: PENDING

they were pending last year and still outsold the 360 in '07

forget gathering, the ps3 has claimed the momentum outright

oh look another cow too scared to post this under his main account or ban dodging. PS3 got GUBBED in the US by the 360 and Wii last year, its getting pannelled again this year.

better watch yourself

making accusations without a shred of proof will land you in hot water

the ps3 outsold the 360 in 07 with a weak game library last year

they outright snatched the momentum and will continue to make huge strides this year

try basing your posts on facts.........

Well I got modded for it congratulations you achieved your aim of posting something with no relevance to the topic with the aim of drawing a reaction so you could report someone for it. Another win for SW.

Oh and the PS3 had a launch in Europe and god knows how many SKU's and price cuts and could only just SHIP more units than the 360, that pretty sad.

You've also achieved something else. For a long time now I've witnessed the decline of SW, crazy moderations and a vast increase in posters who's only goal is to try to get people moderated, especially when using alt accounts, while at the same time the good posters being moderated for the most minor of infractions until they quit. Well enough is enough, this will be my last post here for a long time, perhaps for good. The community has all but fallen apart, maybe its time to give Subsorian the chance to make it the sterile place he wants it to be.

(To the person who asked what proof I have, all you have to do is look at post history and see the language and terminology someone uses.)

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#26 Eponique
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We're taking analyst predictions as fact now? Let's just wait 'till Thursday. AKA Cow ownage day.

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Do you ever get tired of basically being an unpaid PR rep for Sony?
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#28 NinjaMunkey01
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this is us sales. Europe sales would look much better for the ps3.

http://www.vgchartz.com/

Here, I know its not meant to be very reliable. But its all we got on wordwide sales, how far off can it be?

It shows that the ps3 out sold the 360 worldwide this week. which could be true.

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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

The Playstation brand will reign supreme again with the help of the PS3.

thegame1980

GOD! I hope not. PS3 is a waste of money and if that's the way console gaming is headed count me out. I HATE my PS3 and wish I never wasted my money on it.

so you rather have console that needs to be sent for repairs? pay online, add-ons apon add-ons to add to the price. going backwards not having the hdd as standard.
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[QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

The Playstation brand will reign supreme again with the help of the PS3.

GARRYTH

GOD! I hope not. PS3 is a waste of money and if that's the way console gaming is headed count me out. I HATE my PS3 and wish I never wasted my money on it.

so you rather have console that needs to be sent for repairs? pay online, add-ons apon add-ons to add to the price. going backwards not having the hdd as standard.

I haven't bought one add-on for my x360 and it's worked great.

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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

The Playstation brand will reign supreme again with the help of the PS3.

thegame1980

GOD! I hope not. PS3 is a waste of money and if that's the way console gaming is headed count me out. I HATE my PS3 and wish I never wasted my money on it.

Gaming will manage without you.

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#32 GnR-SLaSh
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If that's a reliable source then good news for Sony I guess..
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#33 SeanBond
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The Playstation brand will reign supreme again with the help of the PS3.

ReverseCycology

Well...Considering that the Playstation brand only stopped "reining supreme" due to that same PS3, one would hope that in time it would redeem itself.

Also, are we seriously still counting sales figures in which the PS3 isn't outsold by the 360 as much, as victories for the PS3?

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I think it will be a very strong year for the PS3.
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#35 jetpropilot
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Also, are we seriously still counting sales figures in which the PS3 isn't outsold by the 360 as much, as victories for the PS3?

SeanBond

ps3 outsold 360 in '07 buddy

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#36 SeanBond
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[QUOTE="SeanBond"]

Also, are we seriously still counting sales figures in which the PS3 isn't outsold by the 360 as much, as victories for the PS3?

jetpropilot

ps3 outsold 360 in '07 buddy

Yeah, I know. This has been discussed in a million other threads. The only reason the PS3 outsold the 360 last year was because this was the PS3's debut year. The 360's numbers for most of the year were stronger overall, but the PS3 obviously started the '07 fiscal year better because it launched in the said year (i.e. the PS3 had a huge first month)... The PS3 is outselling the 360 by a decent amount in Europe, and the 360 has been outselling the PS3 pretty well in North America (I'm not discussing Japan because if you're not Nintendo there, at the moment you don't matter). Beating a 2nd year console by, what, 1 million systems isn't that hot, if it was your first year; newer items always sell well. It'll be a lot more interesting to see what the PS3 and 360 do this year, especially with more price drops probably on horizon, and hopefully a few big PS3 games coming out.

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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

Hmmm let's see...

- Ridiculously stacked 2008 release schedule? Check.

- Blu-Ray claims a massive victory and finally emerges as the next-gen format of choice? Check.

- Sony dumps millions into a bold new advertising campaign? Check.

- PS3 price drops (and drops again) and is finally approaching the coveted "mass-market price point"? Check.

If the projections you've posted are even remotely accurate when the NPD numbers drop, I'd be shocked.

If the ps3 doesn't outsell the 360 State-side last month/this month/all following months...all hope is lost for Sony. :?

jetpropilot

Blockbuster games: PENDING

they were pending last year and still outsold the 360 in '07

forget gathering, the ps3 has claimed the momentum outright

Who cares about the sales, it's like people see an incline in sales and it gives them more bragging rights. Bragging rights for what? That Sony is making money, sooo... Where's the great games to be playing? That's what matters.

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I thought this was common knowledge by now?
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#39 jetpropilot
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Who cares about the sales, it's like people see an incline in sales and it gives them more bragging rights. Bragging rights for what? That Sony is making money, sooo... Where's the great games to be playing? That's what matters.

Disturbed_One98

Spend enough years in the "losing to the competitors" column and those great games will evaporate like water in the desert.

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#40 hodges_3_5
Member since 2008 • 351 Posts
AWWWW YEA! PS3 Is gaining slowly but surely!
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#41 jackvegas21
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2008: The year the PS3 woke up from its hibernation.
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#42 Gamersince81
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

The Playstation brand will reign supreme again with the help of the PS3.

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GOD! I hope not. PS3 is a waste of money and if that's the way console gaming is headed count me out. I HATE my PS3 and wish I never wasted my money on it.

if you hated it you wouldve sold it. SELF OWNED!!!!

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#43 CommanderTy
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

The Playstation brand will reign supreme again with the help of the PS3.

thegame1980

GOD! I hope not. PS3 is a waste of money and if that's the way console gaming is headed count me out. I HATE my PS3 and wish I never wasted my money on it.

Jeez dude if your so unhappy with it then sell it on ebay dont come crying to us saying it sucks sell it use the money for a Gamen PC thats what i did with my 360 and now look ME is on its way just like i said it would be
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#44 Gamersince81
Member since 2007 • 1787 Posts
[QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

The Playstation brand will reign supreme again with the help of the PS3.

CommanderTy

GOD! I hope not. PS3 is a waste of money and if that's the way console gaming is headed count me out. I HATE my PS3 and wish I never wasted my money on it.

Jeez dude if your so unhappy with it then sell it on ebay dont come crying to us saying it sucks sell it use the money for a Gamen PC thats what i did with my 360 and now look ME is on its way just like i said it would be

Exactly, im thinking of selling my 360 and putting the money towards a gaming rig. I can play GEOW, Mass Effect, Bioshock on somthing superior afterall.

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#45 black_awpN1
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2008: The year the PS3 woke up from its hibernation.jackvegas21

More like a Drunken Stupor.

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#46 Cubs360
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Wait until Microsoft drops the price to 249.99 with the release of GTA, that will put a gap between them.
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#47 gatorteen
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Wait until Microsoft drops the price to 249.99 with the release of GTA, that will put a gap between them.Cubs360

ugghhh GTA is multiplat. No one is going to want to a 360 anymore than a PS3 when GTA comes out.

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#48 manystylez
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The ps3 will definitely close the gap between xbox 360 but not in 2008... It sold better worldwide with a shi**y game lineup now imagine it with MGS4, Home, LBP, Killzone 2, Resistance 2
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#49 agni_1
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It'll certainly be interesting to see what the console landscape looks like post-GTA4. Sony has the better game library between then and now (assuming MGS4 is still on for a Q2 release) but MS has the ability to significantly lower the 360's price (considering they only dropped the Pro's price by $50 over its first 2 years) and generally does a good job with their bundles (better than Spiderman 3 on BR anyway). PBSnipes

How true..and this IS MICROSOFT we are taking about..they have sunk billions of dollars into this..I dont think they will just sit back and watch Sony beat them. On that note..360 is still outselling the PS3 so I dont know what's got the fanboys all riled up.

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#50 Pro_wrestler
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Who cares...? Thats what happens when you have 2 Price drops, 4 configuration changes, A debut and a marketing campaign reconstruction all in one damn year..and guess what? It's still 7 million behind.