PS3 Hardware: Weaksauce

What ever happened to PS3 being 5 times as powerful as the Xbox 360?

The few games where the PS3 MIGHT have a couple FPS over the 360, it loses in antialiasing or texture detail. And these are the games that Sony sent their top engineers out to help the developers get the code right.

Sony fanboys rebuttal goes something like, "but theXbox 360 has been out for a year longer!" While conveniently ignoring the fact that the original Xbox came out 2 years after the PS2, yet multiplats looked SIGNIFICANTLY better on it from DAY ONE.

So it makes me laugh when PS3 fanboys get allgiddy whena PS3 multiplatis a wash compared to the Xbox 360 version.

Who said it was X amount of times more powerful than the 360? Sony said its the most powerful console and they didn't lie.

When you count everything else that comes with it, it is true.

Have you even spent a day or more using a PS3 or are you just throwing stuff out there?

Last time I remmember more people are buying PS3 these days.

Who said it was X amount of times more powerful than the 360? Sony said its the most powerful console and they didn't lie.

When you count everything else that comes with it, it is true.

Have you even spent a day or more using a PS3 or are you just throwing stuff out there?

Last time I remmember more people are buying PS3 these days.

Cedmln

So what is your point? I read the whole thing, but never got there...musicalmac

[QUOTE="Cedmln"] legol1

Why don't you go look it up for yourself?

If you don't believe me, I didn't ask you to do so from the start.

Have a great day! :)

[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="Cedmln"] Cedmln

Why don't you go look it up for yourself?

If you don't believe me, I didn't ask you to do so from the start.

Have a great day! :)

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="Cedmln"] legol1

Why don't you go look it up for yourself?

If you don't believe me, I didn't ask you to do so from the start.

Have a great day! :)

And you type like I gave any amount of numbers for sales... thats quite the damage control you got there or you just don't know how to read what other people type.

An even sadder truth.

PS: Have a wonderful day! :)

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

Who said it was X amount of times more powerful than the 360? Sony said its the most powerful console and they didn't lie.

When you count everything else that comes with it, it is true.

Have you even spent a day or more using a PS3 or are you just throwing stuff out there?

Last time I remmember more people are buying PS3 these days.

legol1

PS3 has already outsold X360 by over a million units this year worldwide. In Japan it outsold X360 and Wii last week. You can google search it yourself.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]So what is your point? I read the whole thing, but never got there...Danthegamingman

[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="Cedmln"]

Who said it was X amount of times more powerful than the 360? Sony said its the most powerful console and they didn't lie.

When you count everything else that comes with it, it is true.

Have you even spent a day or more using a PS3 or are you just throwing stuff out there?

Last time I remmember more people are buying PS3 these days.

EmperorSupreme

PS3 has already outsold X360 by over a million units this year worldwide. In Japan it outsold X360 and Wii last week. You can google search it yourself.

Your logic is flawed. You are comparing a 12-month period that includes the PS3 launch. Its also funny that if you just looked at US sales, even the PS3 launch numbers wouldn't make up for the huge gap between Xbox 360 & PS3. Of course when cows get desperate they pull Japan into the argument.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="Cedmln"]

Who said it was X amount of times more powerful than the 360? Sony said its the most powerful console and they didn't lie.

When you count everything else that comes with it, it is true.

Have you even spent a day or more using a PS3 or are you just throwing stuff out there?

Last time I remmember more people are buying PS3 these days.

MrEpyx

PS3 has already outsold X360 by over a million units this year worldwide. In Japan it outsold X360 and Wii last week. You can google search it yourself.

Your logic is flawed. You are comparing a 12-month period that includes the PS3 launch. Its also funny that if you just looked at US sales, even the PS3 launch numbers wouldn't make up for the huge gap between Xbox 360 & PS3. Of course when cows get desperate they pull Japan into the argument.

And you are desperate enoughto pull US into the argument?

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="Cedmln"] legol1

Why don't you go look it up for yourself?

If you don't believe me, I didn't ask you to do so from the start.

Have a great day! :)

Who said it was X amount of times more powerful than the 360? Sony said its the most powerful console and they didn't lie.

When you count everything else that comes with it, it is true.

Have you even spent a day or more using a PS3 or are you just throwing stuff out there?

Last time I remmember more people are buying PS3 these days.

Cedmln

But I didn't get 4D and 120fps :(

What ever happened to PS3 being 5 times as powerful as the Xbox 360?

The few games where the PS3 MIGHT have a couple FPS over the 360, it loses in antialiasing or texture detail. And these are the games that Sony sent their top engineers out to help the developers get the code right.

Sony fanboys rebuttal goes something like, "but theXbox 360 has been out for a year longer!" While conveniently ignoring the fact that the original Xbox came out 2 years after the PS2, yet multiplats looked SIGNIFICANTLY better on it from DAY ONE.

So it makes me laugh when PS3 fanboys get allgiddy whena PS3 multiplatis a wash compared to the Xbox 360 version.

MrEpyx

Cows should be upset with Sony for phuqqing up the multiplats with longer development time. Instead they just insist that those developers are lazy. Cows ignore the fact that those developers are on a payroll and time is money.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

Supafly1

But I didn't get 4D and 120fps :(

Looks like you've missed out on some news. Google or wiki (whatever search engine you want to use) 4D and it should give you a link to what it means.

The PS3 also does 120FPS. How? The Eye Toy 2. You can play games with it and it can run at 120 FPS. Just look it up.

people still say "weaksauce"? so sad.

And you are desperate enoughto pull US into the argument?

enral

But that's where I live. Its also by far the World's largest gaming market. I'm not sure what talking about sales has to do with the fact that the PS3 hardware is weaker than what Sony claimed. I guess that just proves how desperate cows are to change the subject.

Games like Heavenly Sword looks amazing, so clearly the PS3 is capable of brilliant looking games. As far as I'm concerned, HS is better looking than anything on the 360. Weren't poor multiplats due to the developers being lazy?SolidSnake35

The PS3 is not "weaksauce"

but its not really any more powerful than the 360, I'm hoping that this type of thread stops soon, and we can get back to the amazing games coming for BOTH systems.

Disappointment : Only Possable with Blue Ray :lol:

The real "POWAH" is just waiting to be unlocked. *crickets* :roll:

[QUOTE="enral"]

And you are desperate enoughto pull US into the argument?

MrEpyx

But that's where I live. Its also by far the World's largest gaming market. I'm not sure what talking about sales has to do with the fact that the PS3 hardware is weaker than what Sony claimed. I guess that just proves how desperate cows are to change the subject.

so because you live there its the only market that matters? GS isnt just for people that live in the US you know, therefore, we should really only take into account GLOBAL sales numbers, not just regional

Disappointment : Only Possable with Blue Ray :lol:

Nugtoka

youve clearly never played big rigs

Disappointment : Only Possable with Blue Ray :lol:

Nugtoka

[QUOTE="Nugtoka"]

Disappointment : Only Possable with Blue Ray :lol:

SolidSnake35

maby, but that dosent matter for me, PC games can get compressed so small, and all they do is unpack and install and it runs, you console gamers cant have that now can you

[QUOTE="MrEpyx"][QUOTE="enral"]

And you are desperate enoughto pull US into the argument?

shadow_hosi

But that's where I live. Its also by far the World's largest gaming market. I'm not sure what talking about sales has to do with the fact that the PS3 hardware is weaker than what Sony claimed. I guess that just proves how desperate cows are to change the subject.

so because you live there its the only market that matters? GS isnt just for people that live in the US you know, therefore, we should really only take into account GLOBAL sales numbers, not just regional

Funny, this is the second time you ignored the thread topic to go on a rant about sales.You just proved, for a second time, that Cows will talk about anything else to ignore the topicof PS3 hardware not living up to Sony's claims.

cows 2006: The ps3 will have better graphics because it has newer technology, thus more powerful..

cows 2007: the 360 games look better because it's been out longer...

cows are a joke....:roll:

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="Cedmln"] legol1

Why don't you go look it up for yourself?

If you don't believe me, I didn't ask you to do so from the start.

Have a great day! :)

Go to Arstechnica.com and go to their games section. Sales have doubled for the first two weeks after the price drop. Whether they continue or not is another matter.

All I know and all that matters to ME is that my 360 had its fun time because I needed some Next Gen before Nov 11 and after it came out,yeah the 360 got most of my attention. But you know what happened? More games came out for ps3 and yeah the multiplats came out weak for ps3 at first...but now...most gaming sites are giving them equal reviews. Even though the 360 has been ut longer and devs have had longer time to work with it and the ps3 is harder to develop for, games like COD4 and AC are coming out and they are either equal or better than the 360 counterpart. You can discuss your sales figures and from what I've heard Ps3 is keeping pace with 360 and even gaining a little. If you want to talk about hardware you have to take into effect the Red Rings cuz that is HARDWARE failure. On another note about hardware, there is the fact that if you are going to want the full 360 experience sooner or later...M$ is gonna make you have to get the HD-DVD drive.

So I will finish my little rant now cuz I'm sure I've said too much for my own good on this forum but I will say that my 360 is the one now collecting dust since I have my games such as R6V and COD4 and HS and AC and soon to have Uncharted and the rest of the line up that ps3 owners will enjoy, and most likely Ill pick up a 360 excusive while I'm at bestbuy but I doubt it.

the 360 has the same graphics sythesisor, cooling system, disc tray sytem and processor, as the origional x-box.

next gen ,i think not

uncharted says otherwise.... and also its only been a year... and last the 360 is a POS in terms of hardware it just feels and sounds cheap but i do enjoy the games on both systems so i am happy

What ever happened to PS3 being 5 times as powerful as the Xbox 360?

The few games where the PS3 MIGHT have a couple FPS over the 360, it loses in antialiasing or texture detail. And these are the games that Sony sent their top engineers out to help the developers get the code right.

Sony fanboys rebuttal goes something like, "but theXbox 360 has been out for a year longer!" While conveniently ignoring the fact that the original Xbox came out 2 years after the PS2, yet multiplats looked SIGNIFICANTLY better on it from DAY ONE.

So it makes me laugh when PS3 fanboys get allgiddy whena PS3 multiplatis a wash compared to the Xbox 360 version.

MrEpyx

While I do agree that the PS3 has not shown it yet, I don't agree with the xbox vs PS2 argument. you have to understand that the xbox and xbox360 both have a very similar architecture to the PC where as the PS3 offers a completely different architecture to work with. That's why it needs time so that the developers can figure out its architecture and bring the best out of it. as for the xbox or the 360 for that matter, it is quite a lot easier to develop for at this point because its architechture is very similar to the PC. the PC itself doesn't really change, it just gets more power as time goes and better graphics cards, but the architecture is still the same.

bravo towards you guys that take EVERY kind of news that the ps3 gets and turn it into a bad thing. You say it sucks when its launch games don't look better than gears and now when its finally been out for a year and its games look on par with 360 games you act like its games won't look any better?

If you want to say that the ps3 cant do better graphics, then compare 1st party titles insetad of 3rd party titles where the devs will obviously know the 360s hardwear better because they've worked on it more.

oh and you bring out the ps2-360 argument yet fail to see thatthe xbox was clearly better in every way than the ps2 while the ps3 is slightly better on table.

so it makes me giddy when fanboys like you, TC, post.

The logic from the TC is groundless.

Fisson Mailed!

LULZ BU BU BU TEH FRAMERATEZ!11

No really from what i have see PS3 exclusives have thus far always looked much better than most xbox 360 games, however gears does look good and smooth. Heavenly sword imo was a crap game but you cant argue that the graphics were pretty good and the same goes for R&C and if the screenies and vids are anything to go by Uncharted.

Note im not saying these games are BETTER than what the 360 has im just saying they have significantly better graphics to the naked eye and not some nerd sitting in his armchair and counting frames per second.

Wow, you are a fanboy. Completely, I bet you don't know anything about technology, just how to read a brochure, eh?

Why is the PS3 losing? Sony is arrogant, and the starting price of 599 hurt them bad. They set themselves right now, and it looks like the PS3 will sell well. I don't care what happens, as long as some good games come out.

Here are my thoughts which are powered by facts, not by XBOT FANBOYISM (cant stand):

The PS3 can do 2.18 TFLOPS a second. The 360 can muster 1 TFLOP a second. Those are facts. The PS3 has 8 SPEs (one reserved for I have NO CLUE) and 1 PPE (Power processor element). It's common logic that when a CPU is given multiple hard tasks at once it will lag, or the performance is dulled. The Cell can handle ludicrous amounts of tasks at once and still have lots of room to play with. The PS3, I can't say the same. While it still is a powerful supercomputer, games will not be as complicated and impressive as the PS3s will down the road. That has nothing to do with fun or gameplay factor though. Oh and the PPE is the thing that tells the SPEs what to do at any given time.

The memory bandwith of the Cell is extrodanarily impressive: 25.6 Gigabytes per second as a total. At any given time, there is so much that can happen, just thinking about it makes my head spin.

Plus, games are written on Blu-Ray discs. With the exception of few, most games on the PS3 are not needing Blu-Ray discs. Although, some are. And in the near future, with the Cell's potential, games will have to be put on BD discs. Come back to my posts in a year and see if what I said comes true.

I'm not dissing the 360 (which is a great system), I'm just bringing truth to Sony's system which people like to cover up.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

Who said it was X amount of times more powerful than the 360? Sony said its the most powerful console and they didn't lie.

When you count everything else that comes with it, it is true.

Have you even spent a day or more using a PS3 or are you just throwing stuff out there?

Last time I remmember more people are buying PS3 these days.

Supafly1

But I didn't get 4D and 120fps :(

Sony said True HD 1080 running at 60fps

So what is your point? I read the whole thing, but never got there...musicalmac

He's just telling us that he's a troll. Not that deep, nothin important.

[QUOTE="enral"]

And you are desperate enoughto pull US into the argument?

MrEpyx

But that's where I live. Its also by far the World's largest gaming market. I'm not sure what talking about sales has to do with the fact that the PS3 hardware is weaker than what Sony claimed. I guess that just proves how desperate cows are to change the subject.

Your posts scream blind fanboy. Try reading before you post. :?

What ever happened to PS3 being 5 times as powerful as the Xbox 360?

The few games where the PS3 MIGHT have a couple FPS over the 360, it loses in antialiasing or texture detail. And these are the games that Sony sent their top engineers out to help the developers get the code right.

Sony fanboys rebuttal goes something like, "but theXbox 360 has been out for a year longer!" While conveniently ignoring the fact that the original Xbox came out 2 years after the PS2, yet multiplats looked SIGNIFICANTLY better on it from DAY ONE.

So it makes me laugh when PS3 fanboys get allgiddy whena PS3 multiplatis a wash compared to the Xbox 360 version.

MrEpyx

You forget that thet PS3's hardware is far more abstract than the hardware of the 360 and the original XBox. Of course it'll take a longer time to master. You seem to underestimate how tricky working with asymmetrical SPUs are.

What ever happened to PS3 being 5 times as powerful as the Xbox 360?

The few games where the PS3 MIGHT have a couple FPS over the 360, it loses in antialiasing or texture detail. And these are the games that Sony sent their top engineers out to help the developers get the code right.

Sony fanboys rebuttal goes something like, "but theXbox 360 has been out for a year longer!" While conveniently ignoring the fact that the original Xbox came out 2 years after the PS2, yet multiplats looked SIGNIFICANTLY better on it from DAY ONE.

So it makes me laugh when PS3 fanboys get allgiddy whena PS3 multiplatis a wash compared to the Xbox 360 version.

MrEpyx