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#1 DuDisNow
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I'm not bashing it, but really, it has no chance. People will either end up buying the Wii for it's cheap price, or the 360 for it's game library. The PS3 really only has Uncharted, Resistance, Rachet, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword (for it's exclusives). Poeple aren't going to buy the most expensive and less valuable games to own this holiday season. Wii has it pretty much on lockdown where 360 is going to end up second.

Mabye the PS3 will get it's year in 2008.

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It's ace in the hole this season is it's Blu-Ray capability. Will people care enough to buy it? I don't know.
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Wow. Now, that's insightful.:roll:
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#5 Heil68
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Depends on what your metrics are for determining 'win'.
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#6 hrt_rulz01
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I think the PS3 will do better then everyone thinks it will...
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#7 tbone29
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The PS3 WILL get its year in 2008...

R-Dot-Yung

Sure looks that way.

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yeah i would think thats pretty obvious.
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#9 DuDisNow
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I think the PS3 will do better then everyone thinks it will... hrt_rulz01
I think it will too, but the Wii and 360 will still do better.
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#10 Tiefster
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PS3 has an equal chance as 360 at "winning" this holiday season. The games library is established enough but I think we might see some pretty equal 360 and PS3 numbers since no one really has the upper hand in games in the month of december.
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#11 -PS360FTW-
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ps3 will do better then 360
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#12 JiveT
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As time goes on the value of Blu-ray should go up in consumer's eyes and I think the 360 will succumb to that inexorable tide.
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#14 MikeE21286
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neither does 360.....the Wii already won the holiday.
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#15 Koalakommander
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I'm not bashing it, but really, it has no chance. People will either end up buying the Wii for it's cheap price, or the 360 for it's game library. The PS3 really only has Uncharted, Resistance, Rachet, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword (for it's exclusives). Poeple aren't going to buy the most expensive and less valuable games to own this holiday season. Wii has it pretty much on lockdown where 360 is going to end up second.

Mabye the PS3 will get it's year in 2008.

DuDisNow

it matched 360's overall sales this month, so i think that is a pretty big step forward if you consider what MS has going for it right now.

Imagine 2008, just imagine.

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[QUOTE="JiveT"]As time goes on the value of Blu-ray should go up in consumer's eyes and I think the 360 will succumb to that inexorable tide.R-Dot-Yung

:shock:

form you?!?!?!

It's not the first time I have said it. I knew it would not win in Japan and 360 damaged itself badly in Europe where Microsoft is already an enemy of the state in a lot of countries. I always root for the underdog it's part of my greater psychosis.

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[QUOTE="DuDisNow"][QUOTE="hrt_rulz01"]I think the PS3 will do better then everyone thinks it will... Koalakommander

I think it will too, but the Wii and 360 will still do better.

Listen, if PS3 matched 360s sales for Novemember with no established franchises, what makes you think the 360 is the clear cut winner in 2008 when MGS4 and GT5 are released?

PS3 isn't the sh***y console anymore. It's a $400 beast that plays blu-ray movies and it's here to stay.

we dont even have the november numbers yet

and if u are using vgchartz might as well just be guessing the numbers by yourself

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I'm not bashing it, but really, it has no chance. People will either end up buying the Wii for it's cheap price, or the 360 for it's game library. The PS3 really only has Uncharted, Resistance, Rachet, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword (for it's exclusives). Poeple aren't going to buy the most expensive and less valuable games to own this holiday season. Wii has it pretty much on lockdown where 360 is going to end up second.

Mabye the PS3 will get it's year in 2008.

DuDisNow

A. People are buying the Wii because they like it better and its more popular. The gamecube was far cheaper than its competition and still lost in sales.

B. Anyone who voted for the PS3 to win this holiday season in sales.......fanboys.

I'll bet my account right here that the Wii beats the PS3 in NPD this holiday, for consoles. That's November and December. Anybody wanna take that bet?

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#20 yazmanian-devil
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ps3's gonna' do just fine this holiday season. It has a pretty good price cut, and as other ppl mentioned, it's wanted for bluray. I wouldn't say the ps3 has no games though... I think the 360's library is superior, but there are still good games u can get for ps3.
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#21 El-Visitante
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What difference does it make if one sells more than another? serious question, do us 360/ps3 owners get some kind of financial bonus if one sells more than another? I never understood the whole "my dad could beat your dad up" argument. I mean, they're only gaming consoles, plastic, some wires and and solder etc.I own a 360, and in dec. i'll own a ps3 ( I love my girlfriend) but I don't give two F*&ks about which sells more because I won't lose any sleep over it, nor does sony or microsoft pay me to. Now if microsoft would send me a sweet lil check in the mail if their numbers are better than sony's, then I'd pick a side. Untill then, they are just inadimate pieces of hardware that I use as entertainment while I'm not at school, working, drinking beer with friends or having fun time with my gal in bed (oh yeah I went there).
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I agree. Its already a wrap for the PS3 this year. Nothing to offer anymore. So like the Cow motto, Just Wait.

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#23 MikeE21286
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I agree. Its already a wrap for the PS3 this year. Nothing to offer anymore. So like the Cow motto, Just Wait.

ReverseCycology

lol, you talk as if the 360 is not included either.....all hail to the Wii this holiday season (atleast in terms of sales)

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#24 PS360Fanboy
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2008 is the year for the PS3
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#25 WhyuStillAlive
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I would add UT3 to the list even though it is a time exclusive
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#26 -Renegade
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I know it's not going to beat the Wii but in worldwide numbers I think it will beat 360.

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#27 the-very-best
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Nothing is impossible.

lol, was that an Adidas or Nike ad?

Anyhoo, I think Wii owns this holiday season and I think 360 will beat PS3 but who knows? Could be wrong, could be right, just gotta wait and see.

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#28 tbone29
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Nothing is impossible.

lol, was that an Adidas or Nike ad?

Anyhoo, I think Wii owns this holiday season and I think 360 will beat PS3 but who knows? Could be wrong, could be right, just gotta wait and see.

the-very-best

Impossible is nothing. ;)

It'll probably be closer than what most people think

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#29 the-very-best
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Nothing is impossible.

lol, was that an Adidas or Nike ad?

Anyhoo, I think Wii owns this holiday season and I think 360 will beat PS3 but who knows? Could be wrong, could be right, just gotta wait and see.

tbone29

Impossible is nothing. ;)

It'll probably be closer than what most people think

Yeah, that sounds better than what I wrote. :P

I agree anyway, I think Sony's marketing for the system has improved considerably in the last few months and I'm sure it's gonna have a strong effect on consumers...but I dunno if it will be enough to override the effect Halo 3 had.

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#30 funnymario
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I think the competiton will beat the PS3 this season as well.

But the chances of that not happening are pretty good. 50/50. It either happens or not.

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#31 Chutebox
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Wii has already won this Christmas season lol.

Ps3 and 360 are fighting for 2nd.

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I want to know by what measure people who voted "yes" think the PS3 has a chance to "win" this Holiday season.

Games? There's nothing left to come out this year, nothing of great note anyway, and you guys need to face up to the fact that you didn't get a single AAAE this year, while every other system did--and got more AAEs and multiplats to boot.

Sales? Nothing is going to touch the Wii this year, and everybody knows it, whether they want to admit it or not. The PS3 could maybe by some weird twist of fate outsell the 360 for these Holiday months (though I doubt it), but that would still be second place and not a "win" by any measure.

What you're really saying if you voted "yes" is, "I'm a big massive cow and it would physically hurt me to vote against Sony on anything."

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#33 osirisomeomi
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The PS3 doesn't have to win this holiday season, it just has to keep up without being completely overwhelmed.
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I want to know by what measure people who voted "yes" think the PS3 has a chance to "win" this Holiday season.

Games? There's nothing left to come out this year, nothing of great note anyway, and you guys need to face up to the fact that you didn't get a single AAAE this year, while every other system did--and got more AAEs and multiplats to boot.

Sales? Nothing is going to touch the Wii this year, and everybody knows it, whether they want to admit it or not. The PS3 could maybe by some weird twist of fate outsell the 360 for these Holiday months (though I doubt it), but that would still be second place and not a "win" by any measure.

What you're really saying if you voted "yes" is, "I'm a big massive cow and it would physically hurt me to vote against Sony on anything."

OremLK

I'm sorry, but I'm sick of this. When the whole world goes by GS scores, I can understand you saying this. But a tiny % of people care about these scores, so stop acting like Ps3 hasn't got any AAAe out there. I know here they didn't, but they have at other websites and magazines that people read.

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At the risk of getting obnoxious, let's be serious, folks. About the only thing the PS3 stands a chance of winning this Holiday is "Bestselling HD movie player".

[QUOTE="OremLK"]

I want to know by what measure people who voted "yes" think the PS3 has a chance to "win" this Holiday season.

Games? There's nothing left to come out this year, nothing of great note anyway, and you guys need to face up to the fact that you didn't get a single AAAE this year, while every other system did--and got more AAEs and multiplats to boot.

Sales? Nothing is going to touch the Wii this year, and everybody knows it, whether they want to admit it or not. The PS3 could maybe by some weird twist of fate outsell the 360 for these Holiday months (though I doubt it), but that would still be second place and not a "win" by any measure.

What you're really saying if you voted "yes" is, "I'm a big massive cow and it would physically hurt me to vote against Sony on anything."

Chutebox

I'm sorry, but I'm sick of this. When the whole world goes by GS scores, I can understand you saying this. But a tiny % of people care about these scores, so stop acting like Ps3 hasn't got any AAAe out there. I know here they didn't, but they have at other websites and magazines that people read.

I was actually going by GameRankings and Metacritic, who average all of the magazines and websites. But you can go by GameSpot if you want!

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At the risk of getting obnoxious, let's be serious, folks. About the only thing the PS3 stands a chance of winning this Holiday is "Bestselling HD movie player".

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="OremLK"]

I want to know by what measure people who voted "yes" think the PS3 has a chance to "win" this Holiday season.

Games? There's nothing left to come out this year, nothing of great note anyway, and you guys need to face up to the fact that you didn't get a single AAAE this year, while every other system did--and got more AAEs and multiplats to boot.

Sales? Nothing is going to touch the Wii this year, and everybody knows it, whether they want to admit it or not. The PS3 could maybe by some weird twist of fate outsell the 360 for these Holiday months (though I doubt it), but that would still be second place and not a "win" by any measure.

What you're really saying if you voted "yes" is, "I'm a big massive cow and it would physically hurt me to vote against Sony on anything."

OremLK

I'm sorry, but I'm sick of this. When the whole world goes by GS scores, I can understand you saying this. But a tiny % of people care about these scores, so stop acting like Ps3 hasn't got any AAAe out there. I know here they didn't, but they have at other websites and magazines that people read.

I was actually going by GameRankings and Metacritic, who average all of the magazines and websites. But you can go by GameSpot if you want!

That's fine, but my point still stands. How many "gamers" out there or parents care to check scores on these sites? Kids see comercials on tv and tell momma what they want. Ps3 has awesome games and I will be honestly surprised if people check to see if they are AAA...or if they even know what that means.

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#37 HAZE-Unit
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The PS3 have a really good chance to do good this holiday, it has two types of consumers, gamers and who want to buy Blu-ray player, it has an advantage for the Blu-ray feature, if this two features marketed in a great way, it will do fine this holiday.

Maybe Im wrong, we will see what happens.

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#38 3picuri3
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The PS3 WILL get its year in 2008...

R-Dot-Yung

blah *just wait* blah blah.

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I don't know about the whole holiday season, but Sony just got a new PS3 owner. Im sorry man, but that deal @ Wal-Mart was too sweet to pass up! I grabbed Uncharted as my free game & bought Heavenly Sword as well as an HDMI cable. I am freakin syked! Now i gotta wait til the 5th to get it :x

Real quick....Does anyone know if i can grab one of those 5 free movie coupons from anywhere or does it have to be Wal-Mart? Like, can i just walk into Circuit City & grab one?

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Wii has already won, it's very simple -

Shopper: Hi, I'm looking for a new game console to buy for christmas.

Staff: Okay, you have the option of 360, PS3 and Wii. *explains all 3*

Shopper: Hm, Wii looks like alot of fun for everyone in my family. Which is the cheapest?

Staff: Wii.

Shopper: I'll take it!

This is what DOESN'T happen:

Shopper: Hi, I'm looking for a new game console to buy for christmas.

Staff: Okay, you have the option of 360, PS3 and Wii. *explains all 3*

Shopper: Omg Ps3 has blu-ray!!! I'M SOOO GETTING IT!!!! Don't care what the price is.

As for the 360, it's inbetween the two.

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I don't know about the whole holiday season, but Sony just got a new PS3 owner. Im sorry man, but that deal @ Wal-Mart was too sweet to pass up! I grabbed Uncharted as my free game & bought Heavenly Sword as well as an HDMI cable. I am freakin syked! Now i gotta wait til the 5th to get it :x

Real quick....Does anyone know if i can grab one of those 5 free movie coupons from anywhere or does it have to be Wal-Mart? Like, can i just walk into Circuit City & grab one?

E M I N 3 M

The 5 BD deal is a Sony deal, maybe you can search online for it somewhere to save yourself the trip to the store. Did you get the 10 free BD deal from Walmart also?

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#42 tbone29
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Wii has already won, it's very simple -

Shopper: Hi, I'm looking for a new game console to buy for christmas.

Staff: Okay, you have the option of 360, PS3 and Wii. *explains all 3*

Shopper: Hm, Wii looks like alot of fun for everyone in my family. Which is the cheapest?

Staff: Wii.

Shopper: I'll take it!

This is what DOESN'T happen:

Shopper: Hi, I'm looking for a new game console to buy for christmas.

Staff: Okay, you have the option of 360, PS3 and Wii. *explains all 3*

Shopper: Omg Ps3 has blu-ray!!! I'M SOOO GETTING IT!!!! Don't care what the price is.

Erebyssial

*Shopper sees DS Lite*

Shopper: I'll take a couple of those.

Repeat.

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[QUOTE="E M I N 3 M"]

I don't know about the whole holiday season, but Sony just got a new PS3 owner. Im sorry man, but that deal @ Wal-Mart was too sweet to pass up! I grabbed Uncharted as my free game & bought Heavenly Sword as well as an HDMI cable. I am freakin syked! Now i gotta wait til the 5th to get it :x

Real quick....Does anyone know if i can grab one of those 5 free movie coupons from anywhere or does it have to be Wal-Mart? Like, can i just walk into Circuit City & grab one?

Chutebox

The 5 BD deal is a Sony deal, maybe you can search online for it somewhere to save yourself the trip to the store. Did you get the 10 free BD deal from Walmart also?

As far as i saw this what im getting from Wal-Mart. 40gb PS3, BD remote, Spiderman 3 & my choice of game(Uncharted) They have the coupon on their site for 5 free movies, but i was asking if i could just grab that coupon from anywhere? I purchased Heavenly Sword & an HDMI cable seperate. How do you get 10 movies? :shock:
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#44 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="E M I N 3 M"]

I don't know about the whole holiday season, but Sony just got a new PS3 owner. Im sorry man, but that deal @ Wal-Mart was too sweet to pass up! I grabbed Uncharted as my free game & bought Heavenly Sword as well as an HDMI cable. I am freakin syked! Now i gotta wait til the 5th to get it :x

Real quick....Does anyone know if i can grab one of those 5 free movie coupons from anywhere or does it have to be Wal-Mart? Like, can i just walk into Circuit City & grab one?

E M I N 3 M

The 5 BD deal is a Sony deal, maybe you can search online for it somewhere to save yourself the trip to the store. Did you get the 10 free BD deal from Walmart also?

As far as i saw this what im getting from Wal-Mart. 40gb PS3, BD remote, Spiderman 3 & my choice of game(Uncharted) They have the coupon on their site for 5 free movies, but i was asking if i could just grab that coupon from anywhere? I purchased Heavenly Sword & an HDMI cable seperate. How do you get 10 movies? :shock:

The 10 free BD movies was a one day deal Walmart had day after black friday. Got to pick 10 BDs out of their stock, frigging awesome deal. But to your point, any coupon will work, they are not store specific.

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#45 NielsNL
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The Wii will easily be the best selling console. The PS3 ad 360 will be prettyclose but I think UT3 might tip the balance in favour of the PS3.
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[QUOTE="E M I N 3 M"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="E M I N 3 M"]

I don't know about the whole holiday season, but Sony just got a new PS3 owner. Im sorry man, but that deal @ Wal-Mart was too sweet to pass up! I grabbed Uncharted as my free game & bought Heavenly Sword as well as an HDMI cable. I am freakin syked! Now i gotta wait til the 5th to get it :x

Real quick....Does anyone know if i can grab one of those 5 free movie coupons from anywhere or does it have to be Wal-Mart? Like, can i just walk into Circuit City & grab one?

Chutebox

The 5 BD deal is a Sony deal, maybe you can search online for it somewhere to save yourself the trip to the store. Did you get the 10 free BD deal from Walmart also?

As far as i saw this what im getting from Wal-Mart. 40gb PS3, BD remote, Spiderman 3 & my choice of game(Uncharted) They have the coupon on their site for 5 free movies, but i was asking if i could just grab that coupon from anywhere? I purchased Heavenly Sword & an HDMI cable seperate. How do you get 10 movies? :shock:

The 10 free BD movies was a one day deal Walmart had day after black friday. Got to pick 10 BDs out of their stock, frigging awesome deal. But to your point, any coupon will work, they are not store specific.

That is pretty damn sweet! Did they have the free game & remote also or just the 10 movies? It would probably be better to just do the coupon from Sony Online rather than sending through the mail, right? Do you know how long they take to get back to you with these movies?

This is the last time im quoting, before i get modded :lol:

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#47 Chutebox
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I don't think there is a "better" way, just get the coupon and send it in. I know it does take a while to get the movies though. At least a month I would guess.
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The Wii will easily be the best selling console. The PS3 ad 360 will be prettyclose but I think UT3 might tip the balance in favour of the PS3. NielsNL

I could be wrong here, but I don't see UT3 as being a big system seller for the PS3. It doesn't even seem to be doing that well on the PC, which is a shame, because it's a great game--and the PC is a bigger market for this type of game.

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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]The Wii will easily be the best selling console. The PS3 ad 360 will be prettyclose but I think UT3 might tip the balance in favour of the PS3. OremLK

I could be wrong here, but I don't see UT3 as being a big system seller for the PS3. It doesn't even seem to be doing that well on the PC, which is a shame, because it's a great game--and the PC is a bigger market for this type of game.

I guess you could be right. I think however the game will move some consoles among hardcore (FPS) gamers (some people just dislike PC's) who see this as the first game that is enticing enough to get a PS3 for. This just might be the slight edge for the PS3 to outsell the 360. In any case I'm guessing it'll be close.

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I think it was quite an unfortunate year for the PS3 this year. Everybody who said that the PS3 would dominate in 2007 said so on the basis of what was known at the time. That being that Home, LBP, GT5 and MGS4 would be out by now. With all these delays, it seems that the pressure fell on a number of new and untested IPs such as Warhawk, uncharted, and heavenly sword. All of which performed well considering, but of course, without MGS4 and GT5, that was a big blow for the PS3 lineup this year.

If Singstar takes off in europe, and the US adopts uncharted and UT3, then we could well see a big push for PS3, but im not getting my hopes up.