PS3 has probably overtaken the 360 in the shooters department.

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#1 Rhys555
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Providing, Killzone 2 is as good as they say it is. There's two games that stick out to me when I think Xbox 360 shooters, and thats Halo and gears. But, really, after all these years, these games are starting to show there age. Halo 3 was fairly bland, lets be honest here, the game never smashed any visual or audio benchmarks, let alone the fact its nearly a year and half old.

Gears, on the other hand, was amazing when it first came out, but gears 2 failed to nail the initial nostalgia and overall brilliance. Maybe gears was so special because it was the first next-gen feeling game in the time of games like Perfect dark. Sorry cliffy B, but merely making a new (worse) story on exactly the same engine, with some chainsawing chucked in did not make gears 2 anything special.

But Killzone...killzone 2 is something else. It seems to be immersing beyond belief. The visual are probably the best on consoles, and this was confirmed in the alpha (preview code). The physics and ragdoll of the effects of the game are sensational; the developers made a Bailey video out of them. And the sound, is probably the games most impressive trait beside graphics. 90 minutes of tear jerking (literally its made people cry) orchestral music dynamically played throughout the game to match whats going on. Killzone 2 is the future of shooters. (Oh, I've even played it, I was in there beta.

Of course this is dependant on gamespot verdict, I'm highlighting potential here rather than fact.

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Killzone 2 and Resistance are low tier shooters no one cares about, while Halo and Gears of War are record shattering, GOTY winning, AAA games with millions of players.

The only thing the PS3 beats the 360 on is that it costs more, which isn't a good thing.

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Killzone 2 and Resistance are low tier shooters no one cares about, while Halo and Gears of War are record shattering, GOTY winning, AAA games with millions of players.

The only thing the PS3 beats the 360 on is that it costs more, which isn't a good thing.

AHUGECAT

Nice opinion you have there.

but where's the facts?

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So much hype about KZ2, It better be get 10 score here at GS.
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Yeah and I find that very strange. Last gen most Playstation fans were big time RPG fans and Xbox fans were shooter fans, now it's the opposite.
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#6 TheOrigin
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Killzone 2 and Resistance are ,low tier shooters no one cares about,

The only thing the PS3 beats the 360 on is that it costs more, which isn't a good thing.

AHUGECAT
I don't necessarily agree w/ him but I could find millions that dissagree with you on this.
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[QUOTE="Rhys555"]

Providing, Killzone 2 is as good as they say it is. There's two games that stick out to me when I think Xbox 360 shooters, and thats Halo and gears. But, really, after all these years, these games are starting to show there age. Halo 3 was fairly bland, lets be honest here, the game never smashed any visual or audio benchmarks, let alone the fact its nearly a year and half old.

Gears, on the other hand, was amazing when it first came out, but gears 2 failed to nail the initial nostalgia and overall brilliance. Maybe gears was so special because it was the first next-gen feeling game in the time of games like Perfect dark. Sorry cliffy B, but merely making a new (worse) story on exactly the same engine, with some chainsawing chucked in did not make gears 2 anything special.

But Killzone...killzone 2 is something else. It seems to be immersing beyond belief. The visual are probably the best on consoles, and this was confirmed in the alpha (preview code). The physics and ragdoll of the effects of the game are sensational; the developers made a Bailey video out of them. And the sound, is probably the games most impressive trait beside graphics. 90 minutes of tear jerking (literally its made people cry) orchestral music dynamically played throughout the game to match whats going on. Killzone 2 is the future of shooters. (Oh, I've even played it, I was in there beta.

Of course this is dependant on gamespot verdict, I'm highlighting potential here rather than fact.

All I see you talking about is graphics, and sound. As much as I believe good graphics make a good game, that is not all that matters. If KZ2 ends up like being the original, no amount of polish will make it worth playing. And, sadly for the cows, all I see when people talk about they mention KZ2 is the graphics.
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Killzone 2 and Resistance are ,low tier shooters no one cares about, while Halo and Gears of War are record shattering, GOTY winning, AAA games with millions of players.

The only thing the PS3 beats the 360 on is that it costs more, which isn't a good thing.

TheOrigin

I don't necessarily agree w/ him but I could find millions that dissagree with you.

Resistance is a ghost town - Halo 2 has 10 times more people playing online than Resistance. Killzone 2 will flop like Killzone 1, and Resistance 2 is already forgotten about.

The Xbox 360 also gets the PC shooters as well, while the PS3 gets sloppy seconds if it is lucky. Sony is trying real hard to become the shooter console but instead it's a failure. I mean why buy a PS3 for Resistance and Killzone 2 with Xbox 360 has Halo and Gears of War?

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[QUOTE="TheOrigin"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Killzone 2 and Resistance are ,low tier shooters no one cares about, while Halo and Gears of War are record shattering, GOTY winning, AAA games with millions of players.

The only thing the PS3 beats the 360 on is that it costs more, which isn't a good thing.

AHUGECAT

I don't necessarily agree w/ him but I could find millions that dissagree with you.

Resistance is a ghost town - Halo 2 has 10 times more people playing online than Resistance. Killzone 2 will flop like Killzone 1, and Resistance 2 is already forgotten about.

The Xbox 360 also gets the PC shooters as well, while the PS3 gets sloppy seconds if it is lucky. Sony is trying real hard to become the shooter console but instead it's a failure. I mean why buy a PS3 for Resistance and Killzone 2 with Xbox 360 has Halo and Gears of War?

Any facts in here???

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[QUOTE="Rhys555"]

Providing, Killzone 2 is as good as they say it is. There's two games that stick out to me when I think Xbox 360 shooters, and thats Halo and gears. But, really, after all these years, these games are starting to show there age. Halo 3 was fairly bland, lets be honest here, the game never smashed any visual or audio benchmarks, let alone the fact its nearly a year and half old.

Gears, on the other hand, was amazing when it first came out, but gears 2 failed to nail the initial nostalgia and overall brilliance. Maybe gears was so special because it was the first next-gen feeling game in the time of games like Perfect dark. Sorry cliffy B, but merely making a new (worse) story on exactly the same engine, with some chainsawing chucked in did not make gears 2 anything special.

But Killzone...killzone 2 is something else. It seems to be immersing beyond belief. The visual are probably the best on consoles, and this was confirmed in the alpha (preview code). The physics and ragdoll of the effects of the game are sensational; the developers made a Bailey video out of them. And the sound, is probably the games most impressive trait beside graphics. 90 minutes of tear jerking (literally its made people cry) orchestral music dynamically played throughout the game to match whats going on. Killzone 2 is the future of shooters. (Oh, I've even played it, I was in there beta.

Of course this is dependant on gamespot verdict, I'm highlighting potential here rather than fact.

MortalDecay

All I see you talking about is graphics, and sound. As much as I believe good graphics make a good game, that is not all that matters. If KZ2 ends up like being the original, no amount of polish will make it worth playing. And, sadly for the cows, all I see when people talk about they mention KZ2 is the graphics.

probably because we can only LOOk at the game right now, well most cows. For the people in the beta (inc. me) and journalist, feedback has been pretty much completely positive.

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Providing, Killzone 2 is as good as they say it is. There's two games that stick out to me when I think Xbox 360 shooters, and thats Halo and gears. But, really, after all these years, these games are starting to show there age. Halo 3 was fairly bland, lets be honest here, the game never smashed any visual or audio benchmarks, let alone the fact its nearly a year and half old.

Gears, on the other hand, was amazing when it first came out, but gears 2 failed to nail the initial nostalgia and overall brilliance. Maybe gears was so special because it was the first next-gen feeling game in the time of games like Perfect dark. Sorry cliffy B, but merely making a new (worse) story on exactly the same engine, with some chainsawing chucked in did not make gears 2 anything special.

But Killzone...killzone 2 is something else. It seems to be immersing beyond belief. The visual are probably the best on consoles, and this was confirmed in the alpha (preview code). The physics and ragdoll of the effects of the game are sensational; the developers made a Bailey video out of them. And the sound, is probably the games most impressive trait beside graphics. 90 minutes of tear jerking (literally its made people cry) orchestral music dynamically played throughout the game to match whats going on. Killzone 2 is the future of shooters. (Oh, I've even played it, I was in there beta.

Of course this is dependant on gamespot verdict, I'm highlighting potential here rather than fact.

Rhys555
Halo 3 may be old but it's still played by more people everyday than any game on the PS3. Log on to Live at any moment and there's always at least 200 000 people online in Halo 3.
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#12 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="TheOrigin"] I don't necessarily agree w/ him but I could find millions that dissagree with you.swazidoughman

Resistance is a ghost town - Halo 2 has 10 times more people playing online than Resistance. Killzone 2 will flop like Killzone 1, and Resistance 2 is already forgotten about.

The Xbox 360 also gets the PC shooters as well, while the PS3 gets sloppy seconds if it is lucky. Sony is trying real hard to become the shooter console but instead it's a failure. I mean why buy a PS3 for Resistance and Killzone 2 with Xbox 360 has Halo and Gears of War?

Any facts in here???

It's practically all facts.

The thing is that the Xbox 360 owners are so used to good shooters, it's nothing to us. PlayStation is new to shooters (the N64 had Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Turok, Xbox had Halo, Unreal Championship, Chronicles of Riddick) so they are still trying to figure out what works best, but Sony will never have that "hit" like Microsoft does because the PlayStation brand is not meant for shooters.

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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="TheOrigin"] I don't necessarily agree w/ him but I could find millions that dissagree with you.swazidoughman

Resistance is a ghost town - Halo 2 has 10 times more people playing online than Resistance. Killzone 2 will flop like Killzone 1, and Resistance 2 is already forgotten about.

The Xbox 360 also gets the PC shooters as well, while the PS3 gets sloppy seconds if it is lucky. Sony is trying real hard to become the shooter console but instead it's a failure. I mean why buy a PS3 for Resistance and Killzone 2 with Xbox 360 has Halo and Gears of War?

Any facts in here???

SW isn't about facts. It's all about bias and uninformed opinions.
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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Resistance is a ghost town - Halo 2 has 10 times more people playing online than Resistance. Killzone 2 will flop like Killzone 1, and Resistance 2 is already forgotten about.

The Xbox 360 also gets the PC shooters as well, while the PS3 gets sloppy seconds if it is lucky. Sony is trying real hard to become the shooter console but instead it's a failure. I mean why buy a PS3 for Resistance and Killzone 2 with Xbox 360 has Halo and Gears of War?

AHUGECAT

Any facts in here???

It's practically all facts.

The thing is that the Xbox 360 owners are so used to good shooters, it's nothing to us. PlayStation is new to shooters (the N64 had Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Turok, Xbox had Halo, Unreal Championship, Chronicles of Riddick) so they are still trying to figure out what works best, but Sony will never have that "hit" like Microsoft does because the PlayStation brand is not meant for shooters.

lol.

fanboys in general make me laugh.

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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Resistance is a ghost town - Halo 2 has 10 times more people playing online than Resistance. Killzone 2 will flop like Killzone 1, and Resistance 2 is already forgotten about.

The Xbox 360 also gets the PC shooters as well, while the PS3 gets sloppy seconds if it is lucky. Sony is trying real hard to become the shooter console but instead it's a failure. I mean why buy a PS3 for Resistance and Killzone 2 with Xbox 360 has Halo and Gears of War?

AHUGECAT

Any facts in here???

It's practically all facts.

The thing is that the Xbox 360 owners are so used to good shooters, it's nothing to us. PlayStation is new to shooters (the N64 had Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Turok, Xbox had Halo, Unreal Championship, Chronicles of Riddick) so they are still trying to figure out what works best, but Sony will never have that "hit" like Microsoft does because the PlayStation brand is not meant for shooters.

That's an interesting final point. I agree somewhat. If Sony really did plan on taking over the shooter genre (Arguably the most popular, next to sports), they would have changed the controller by including triggers and better analog placement.
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Not a chance. As long as Gears and Halo are on 360 it's better than PS3 in that category no matter what shooters are on it.:)
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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Killzone 2 and Resistance are low tier shooters no one cares about, while Halo and Gears of War are record shattering, GOTY winning, AAA games with millions of players.

The only thing the PS3 beats the 360 on is that it costs more, which isn't a good thing.

Nice opinion you have there.

but where's the facts?

I know, lol i been playing gears1 and 2 and halo1-3 still trying to figure out whats so great about them.....
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How can Sony take over the shooter department when their flagship isn't even out?
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Both are very shooter heavy. For a casual gamer, the 360 probably still has that image though, since the PS3's bigger shooters have much lower profiles than the 360's biggest shooters.
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You are aware that Ps2 sold 150m+ consoles right? With Xbox at what? 40m?

FOR THE PEOPLE SAYING THE GAME IS ALL GRAPHICS AND BAD GAMEPLAY:

I, among many others, have played in the BETA. 99% of those people(including myself) felt the gameplay was incredible, and that was without the entirely 1st person cover system that's featured in multiplayer. The graphics in the ONLINE MULTIPLAYER BETA easily walk all over Gears and other console game out right now.

Polished single player retail build is really gonna obliterate all other console games. The lighting, animations, GAMEPLAY, textures, sound, just about everything is perfect in this game, the only thing that is a tiny, TINY bit disapointing is that it doesn't have co-op, although it's going to be patched after launch.

Go read all the previews for the game, all of them have come out of it extremely hyped about the full game, find a bad preview for Killzone 2 please. There have been countless very positive ones.

Kinda went on a little rampage there, but it's just annoying how people cant see the beta testers and countless websites hailing this game and they still think it's gonna flop.

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I think a lot of people don't really understand that Killzone is a pretty hard FPS, most have not played the first game, it's not like Halo at all really. I heard one guy say he died over 400 times on the last level of Killzone 2 on the hardest setting. It's not going to sell PS3 imo as it's to hardcore for the masses. I've played the first game quite a bit online, I like it, I know what to expect. I think a lot of PS3 owners are not really ready for what awaits them.
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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Resistance is a ghost town - Halo 2 has 10 times more people playing online than Resistance. Killzone 2 will flop like Killzone 1, and Resistance 2 is already forgotten about.

The Xbox 360 also gets the PC shooters as well, while the PS3 gets sloppy seconds if it is lucky. Sony is trying real hard to become the shooter console but instead it's a failure. I mean why buy a PS3 for Resistance and Killzone 2 with Xbox 360 has Halo and Gears of War?

Bigboi500

Any facts in here???

SW isn't about facts. It's all about bias and uninformed opinions.

What did I say that was untrue? Resistance 2 FLOPPED in sales, Gears has sold it 4 times over. Halo 2 has an average 2,500 players online today while Resistance has only 250. PS3 usually never gets PC games and when it does, they are sloppy seconds (such as BioShock and The Orange Box).

Xbox 360 has The Orange Box, BioShock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, Perfect Dark Zero, Prey, FEAR and a lot more.

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Yeah and I find that very strange. Last gen most Playstation fans were big time RPG fans and Xbox fans were shooter fans, now it's the opposite.Bigboi500
I don't think playstation fans have lost their love for RPGs, just the fact that Sony seem to think that shooters are all PS3 fans need these days. After Killzone 2 comes out I will never buy a shooter on PS3 again, unless it's hailed as the best FPS EVER.
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I own the first resistance, played it for maybe 4 hours and never turned it on again. Felt like a below average ps2 shooter. Played a beta of the second one, found it to be the same so I lost interest in it. I liked the first killzone and the second one may actually turn out really good. However the ps3 controller just plain sucks for FPS, the trigger placement makes it hard just to fire. The 360 will always have the controller advantage over the PS3.

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I think a lot of people don't really understand that Killzone is a pretty hard FPS, most have not played the first game, it's not like Halo at all really. I heard one guy say he died over 400 times on the last level of Killzone 2 on the hardest setting. It's not going to sell PS3 imo as it's to hardcore for the masses. I've played the first game quite a bit online, I like it, I know what to expect. I think a lot of PS3 owners are not really ready for what awaits them.Nicky_Don
trust me killzone will sell

and for it not being"like" halo is a great thing

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Any facts in here???

AHUGECAT

SW isn't about facts. It's all about bias and uninformed opinions.

What did I say that was untrue? Resistance 2 FLOPPED in sales, Gears has sold it 4 times over. Halo 2 has an average 2,500 players online today while Resistance has only 250. PS3 usually never gets PC games and when it does, they are sloppy seconds (such as BioShock and The Orange Box).

Xbox 360 has The Orange Box, BioShock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, Perfect Dark Zero, Prey, FEAR and a lot more.

many of the games you listed are on the PS3.

And where is a link proving your numbers?

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[QUOTE="Nicky_Don"]I think a lot of people don't really understand that Killzone is a pretty hard FPS, most have not played the first game, it's not like Halo at all really. I heard one guy say he died over 400 times on the last level of Killzone 2 on the hardest setting. It's not going to sell PS3 imo as it's to hardcore for the masses. I've played the first game quite a bit online, I like it, I know what to expect. I think a lot of PS3 owners are not really ready for what awaits them.OmegaTau

trust me killzone will sell

and for it not being"like" halo is a great thing

It will sell, it won't sell terribly well unless SCE starts advertising it. Outside gaming circles, the game has almost no name recognition.
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I own the first resistance, played it for maybe 4 hours and never turned it on again. Felt like a below average ps2 shooter. Played a beta of the second one, found it to be the same so I lost interest in it. I liked the first killzone and the second one may actually turn out really good. However the ps3 controller just plain sucks for FPS, the trigger placement makes it hard just to fire. The 360 will always have the controller advantage over the PS3.

zaku101

dont even start comparing

because my skill with fps is the same on ps3 and xbox 360(im good) and i perfer the playstation controller always had ever sense psx came out.

but overall with just fps in general always the mouse ftw.

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Playstations were never really known for shooters until Halo came out. They attempted to make a Halo-ish game on the PS2 but it failed while more shooters on the Xbox started to become more successful. I don't agree that the PS3 probably overtaken the 360 in the shooters department but they are trying so hard to. It just seems like the successf of shooters for the Playstation is just starting.
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Any facts in here???

AHUGECAT

SW isn't about facts. It's all about bias and uninformed opinions.

What did I say that was untrue? Resistance 2 FLOPPED in sales, Gears has sold it 4 times over. Halo 2 has an average 2,500 players online today while Resistance has only 250. PS3 usually never gets PC games and when it does, they are sloppy seconds (such as BioShock and The Orange Box).

Xbox 360 has The Orange Box, BioShock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, Perfect Dark Zero, Prey, FEAR and a lot more.

Resistance 2 Does not have an average of 250 players per day. And most of the stuff you listed are multiplat. However Halo series are amazing games, why does it matter what console has better shooters?

Each console has great shooters. And Resistance 2 was not a flop. In the end its the matter of personal preferences. However if you enjoy it why does it matter that another console has other good shooters?

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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]SW isn't about facts. It's all about bias and uninformed opinions.swazidoughman

What did I say that was untrue? Resistance 2 FLOPPED in sales, Gears has sold it 4 times over. Halo 2 has an average 2,500 players online today while Resistance has only 250. PS3 usually never gets PC games and when it does, they are sloppy seconds (such as BioShock and The Orange Box).

Xbox 360 has The Orange Box, BioShock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, Perfect Dark Zero, Prey, FEAR and a lot more.

many of the games you listed are on the PS3.

And where is a link proving your numbers?

VGChartz and NPD for sales, and the amount of players can be seen on the websites (like Bungie.net) or games themselves.

Only 3 of those games are on the PS3 and they are all sloppy seconds. The Xbox 360 is where you go to get your shooter fix console-wise. Period. The PS3 is where you get your action adventure fix.

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Any facts in here???

AHUGECAT

SW isn't about facts. It's all about bias and uninformed opinions.

What did I say that was untrue? Resistance 2 FLOPPED in sales, Gears has sold it 4 times over. Halo 2 has an average 2,500 players online today while Resistance has only 250. PS3 usually never gets PC games and when it does, they are sloppy seconds (such as BioShock and The Orange Box).

Xbox 360 has The Orange Box, BioShock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, Perfect Dark Zero, Prey, FEAR and a lot more.

GOOD LORD THANK GOD you brought up sales. I haven't heard that Lemming card since November NPD. And where did you pull those numbers from?

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#33 OmegaTau
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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

What did I say that was untrue? Resistance 2 FLOPPED in sales, Gears has sold it 4 times over. Halo 2 has an average 2,500 players online today while Resistance has only 250. PS3 usually never gets PC games and when it does, they are sloppy seconds (such as BioShock and The Orange Box).

Xbox 360 has The Orange Box, BioShock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, Perfect Dark Zero, Prey, FEAR and a lot more.

AHUGECAT

many of the games you listed are on the PS3.

And where is a link proving your numbers?

VGChartz and NPD for sales, and the amount of players can be seen on the websites (like Bungie.net) or games themselves.

Only 3 of those games are on the PS3 and they are all sloppy seconds. The Xbox 360 is where you go to get your shooter fix console-wise. Period. The PS3 is where you get your action adventure fix.

swazidoughman

lol why did u bring up trash like prey and pdz

also fear is better on pc same for left 4 dead matter fact any thing valve made is better on pc .

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#34 Angry_PolarBear
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[QUOTE="OmegaTau"]

[QUOTE="Nicky_Don"]I think a lot of people don't really understand that Killzone is a pretty hard FPS, most have not played the first game, it's not like Halo at all really. I heard one guy say he died over 400 times on the last level of Killzone 2 on the hardest setting. It's not going to sell PS3 imo as it's to hardcore for the masses. I've played the first game quite a bit online, I like it, I know what to expect. I think a lot of PS3 owners are not really ready for what awaits them.SpruceCaboose

trust me killzone will sell

and for it not being"like" halo is a great thing

It will sell, it won't sell terribly well unless SCE starts advertising it. Outside gaming circles, the game has almost no name recognition.

this is the problem with most sony 1st party games, all the gaming sites are hyping KZ2 to the heavens, yet many people who never read the gaming sites/magazines have never even heard about KZ2, I just hope Sony advertises this one properly.
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#35 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]SW isn't about facts. It's all about bias and uninformed opinions.naydaslayer

What did I say that was untrue? Resistance 2 FLOPPED in sales, Gears has sold it 4 times over. Halo 2 has an average 2,500 players online today while Resistance has only 250. PS3 usually never gets PC games and when it does, they are sloppy seconds (such as BioShock and The Orange Box).

Xbox 360 has The Orange Box, BioShock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, Perfect Dark Zero, Prey, FEAR and a lot more.

GOOD LORD THANK GOD you brought up sales. I haven't heard that Lemming card since November NPD. And where did you pull those numbers from?

Gears of War 2 has outsold Resistance 2 6-fold opening week. Sony should just quit it with the shooters. Time to focus on what made the PlayStation so successful in the past.

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#36 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="TheOrigin"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Killzone 2 and Resistance are ,low tier shooters no one cares about, while Halo and Gears of War are record shattering, GOTY winning, AAA games with millions of players.

The only thing the PS3 beats the 360 on is that it costs more, which isn't a good thing.

AHUGECAT

I don't necessarily agree w/ him but I could find millions that dissagree with you.

Resistance is a ghost town - Halo 2 has 10 times more people playing online than Resistance. Killzone 2 will flop like Killzone 1, and Resistance 2 is already forgotten about.

The Xbox 360 also gets the PC shooters as well, while the PS3 gets sloppy seconds if it is lucky. Sony is trying real hard to become the shooter console but instead it's a failure. I mean why buy a PS3 for Resistance and Killzone 2 with Xbox 360 has Halo and Gears of War?

hey man, i think it's time you stop smoking whatever it is that makes you get so high. KZ2 will flop like the first one? Where did that come from? Really, that opinion of yours was based on which preview? or did you play the beta? Where did that opinion come from? Your just sounding like a fanboy.

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#37 naydaslayer
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[QUOTE="naydaslayer"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

What did I say that was untrue? Resistance 2 FLOPPED in sales, Gears has sold it 4 times over. Halo 2 has an average 2,500 players online today while Resistance has only 250. PS3 usually never gets PC games and when it does, they are sloppy seconds (such as BioShock and The Orange Box).

Xbox 360 has The Orange Box, BioShock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, Perfect Dark Zero, Prey, FEAR and a lot more.

AHUGECAT

GOOD LORD THANK GOD you brought up sales. I haven't heard that Lemming card since November NPD. And where did you pull those numbers from?

Gears of War 2 has outsold Resistance 2 6-fold opening week. Sony should just quit it with the shooters. Time to focus on what made the PlayStation so successful in the past.

Nice reference to sales again, even though I just pointed out that the sales argument is fruitless in SW. And it is focusing on what made it so sucessful in the past, GOW 3 GT5 for example.

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#38 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="naydaslayer"]

GOOD LORD THANK GOD you brought up sales. I haven't heard that Lemming card since November NPD. And where did you pull those numbers from?

naydaslayer

Gears of War 2 has outsold Resistance 2 6-fold opening week. Sony should just quit it with the shooters. Time to focus on what made the PlayStation so successful in the past.

Nice reference to sales again, even though I just pointed out that the sales argument is fruitless in SW. And it is focusing on what made it so sucessful in the past, GOW 3 GT5 for example.

What made Sony successful were games like Grand Theft Auto, Final Fantasy, Tekken, and all those which are now on the Xbox 360. Halo 3 and Gears of War 2 are superior shooters to whatever the PS3 has to offer, and more people play them. Killzone is a good looking game with no substance (like the original Killzone was) and will flop. PlayStation brand will NEVER get good shooters.

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#39 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="naydaslayer"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

What did I say that was untrue? Resistance 2 FLOPPED in sales, Gears has sold it 4 times over. Halo 2 has an average 2,500 players online today while Resistance has only 250. PS3 usually never gets PC games and when it does, they are sloppy seconds (such as BioShock and The Orange Box).

Xbox 360 has The Orange Box, BioShock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, Perfect Dark Zero, Prey, FEAR and a lot more.

AHUGECAT

GOOD LORD THANK GOD you brought up sales. I haven't heard that Lemming card since November NPD. And where did you pull those numbers from?

Gears of War 2 has outsold Resistance 2 6-fold opening week. Sony should just quit it with the shooters. Time to focus on what made the PlayStation so successful in the past.

What do sales have to do with how the game gets rated? Resistance 2 was a great game to the people it appealed too, but do to Sony advertising policies, well lack there of... the game didn't sell well. However Playstation is far from taking over 360 in the shooter department, and when I say far I mean miles!
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#40 theMarshell
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And u felt you just had too post this here, just too get a flame war going. When are you people going too realize there just games and nothing more. Might be my eyes or somthing but killzone looks like a reguler FPS and this is my opinion so don't get upset over it. Weither it flops or sells million(s) people are still going too enjoy it. I mean look at Call of Duty 4 people still play it and thats old but you don'tseem too be coming on here saying anything about it now are you? Admit it you had nothing better too do so you wanted too watch a buch of people argue. Millions of people bought Halo just about every reviwers liked it yet you people want too find every excuse in the book too make it look bad. Man I would hate too see all these furms when the game gets reveiwed.
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Providing, Killzone 2 is as good as they say it is. There's two games that stick out to me when I think Xbox 360 shooters, and thats Halo and gears. But, really, after all these years, these games are starting to show there age. Halo 3 was fairly bland, lets be honest here, the game never smashed any visual or audio benchmarks, let alone the fact its nearly a year and half old.

Gears, on the other hand, was amazing when it first came out, but gears 2 failed to nail the initial nostalgia and overall brilliance. Maybe gears was so special because it was the first next-gen feeling game in the time of games like Perfect dark. Sorry cliffy B, but merely making a new (worse) story on exactly the same engine, with some chainsawing chucked in did not make gears 2 anything special.

But Killzone...killzone 2 is something else. It seems to be immersing beyond belief. The visual are probably the best on consoles, and this was confirmed in the alpha (preview code). The physics and ragdoll of the effects of the game are sensational; the developers made a Bailey video out of them. And the sound, is probably the games most impressive trait beside graphics. 90 minutes of tear jerking (literally its made people cry) orchestral music dynamically played throughout the game to match whats going on. Killzone 2 is the future of shooters. (Oh, I've even played it, I was in there beta.

Of course this is dependant on gamespot verdict, I'm highlighting potential here rather than fact.

Rhys555

All your reasons were abut the graphics and audio. I think KZ2 will be an amazing game, but what you've just done is described a particularly good movie. :|

Seriously, people don't point out the gameplay mechanics of KZ2 enough, like using Sixaxis in accordance with sniping. That's whats interesting about the game - or the clan features. There is so much more to this game than graphics, but all I ever here on System Wars is a bunch of nonsense about how KZ2's graphics will make it the greatest shooter ever.

Also, Halo 3 wasn't bland at all, if anything it was a breath of fresh air in a gen where every shooter is dominated with decidely brown-grey overtones and accentualized textures or purposeful grittiness. The gameplay was the same tried and true formula of melee-spamming grenade busting vechile mayhem. It's still one of the most played games on LIVE and likely one of the most popular online shooters out there. How is it showing it's age?

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#42 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Rhys555"]

Providing, Killzone 2 is as good as they say it is. There's two games that stick out to me when I think Xbox 360 shooters, and thats Halo and gears. But, really, after all these years, these games are starting to show there age. Halo 3 was fairly bland, lets be honest here, the game never smashed any visual or audio benchmarks, let alone the fact its nearly a year and half old.

Gears, on the other hand, was amazing when it first came out, but gears 2 failed to nail the initial nostalgia and overall brilliance. Maybe gears was so special because it was the first next-gen feeling game in the time of games like Perfect dark. Sorry cliffy B, but merely making a new (worse) story on exactly the same engine, with some chainsawing chucked in did not make gears 2 anything special.

But Killzone...killzone 2 is something else. It seems to be immersing beyond belief. The visual are probably the best on consoles, and this was confirmed in the alpha (preview code). The physics and ragdoll of the effects of the game are sensational; the developers made a Bailey video out of them. And the sound, is probably the games most impressive trait beside graphics. 90 minutes of tear jerking (literally its made people cry) orchestral music dynamically played throughout the game to match whats going on. Killzone 2 is the future of shooters. (Oh, I've even played it, I was in there beta.

Of course this is dependant on gamespot verdict, I'm highlighting potential here rather than fact.

Kickinurass

All your reasons were abut the graphics and audio. I think KZ2 will be an amazing game, but what you've just done is described a particularly good movie. :|

Seriously, people don't point out the gameplay mechanics of KZ2 enough, like using Sixaxis in accordance with sniping. That's whats interesting about the game - or the clan features. There is so much more to this game than graphics, but all I ever here on System Wars is a bunch of nonsense about how KZ2's graphics will make it the greatest shooter ever.

Also, Halo 3 wasn't bland at all, if anything it was a breath of fresh air in a gen where every shooter is dominated with decidely brown-grey overtones and accentualized textures or purposeful grittiness. The gameplay was the same tried and true formula of melee-spamming grenade busting vechile mayhem. It's still one of the most played games on LIVE and likely one of the most popular online shooters out there. How is it showing it's age?

Well I agree in which Graphics! well we can't play graphics, which is why gears of war 2 was terrible when compared to the first one because all it has was graphics and no substance and innovation. Killzone 2 is pretty much offering the same thing, nice graphics but what does it do the FPS community? What innovation does it bring. However I won't throw in my 2 cents until its out for now.
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#43 sethman410
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="TheOrigin"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Killzone 2 and Resistance are ,low tier shooters no one cares about, while Halo and Gears of War are record shattering, GOTY winning, AAA games with millions of players.

The only thing the PS3 beats the 360 on is that it costs more, which isn't a good thing.

I don't necessarily agree w/ him but I could find millions that dissagree with you.

Resistance is a ghost town - Halo 2 has 10 times more people playing online than Resistance. Killzone 2 will flop like Killzone 1, and Resistance 2 is already forgotten about.

The Xbox 360 also gets the PC shooters as well, while the PS3 gets sloppy seconds if it is lucky. Sony is trying real hard to become the shooter console but instead it's a failure. I mean why buy a PS3 for Resistance and Killzone 2 with Xbox 360 has Halo and Gears of War?

And again thats your opinion, but wait can i borrow your time machine. Thanks