People is always complaining about ps3 sales and hide behind them to justify their opinions. But what they don't realize is that ps3 is getting closer to the 360 even withouth piracy (i won't specify it, of course). Fact: piracy does affect sales, perhaps not in NA but in other countries it does. like in europe and south america where money is scarce in most situations and console prices are higher because of taxes and other stuff. (i'm not talking bs, i live in one of these areas) and so they decide to buy the console that posseses piracy. what console is that? or better yet what are those? the wii and the 360. unsurprisingly the two best selling consoles this gen. ps2 had piracy+ the best lineup in gaming history=the best selling console of all times. ps3 has a great lineup but it lacks piracy...so when the ps3 gets piracy...360 and wii are over. P.S. I'm in no way saying that i use piracy or that i encourage it. i actually own a ps3. how are you able to afford your games? you may be wondering. i exchange games with my family. i buy one, they buy another. they finish it, i borrow it from them. i don't encourage piracy i only wanted to remark how it affects console sales and other stuff. probably blog material, i know.
This is a very important year for the Ps3, the console is half way through in its life cycle in the market, like the guys above implied breaking even now is more important than ever before, with the Ps3 slim out and using cheaper parts is almost impossible not to though, Im not worried about the Ps3 beating the 360 or not.
ummmm no profit and an incredible amount of damage to the playstation brand yep just fine.sonny2dap
well xbox has piracy and i don't see it nowhere close to where the ps2 was comparatively speaking. so in my book it's doing fine. just wait for piracy and you'll see. ps: again, i don't use piracy i just KNOW how it affects sales.
[QUOTE="sonny2dap"]ummmm no profit and an incredible amount of damage to the playstation brand yep just fine.iluvmachines
well xbox has piracy and i don't see it nowhere close to where the ps2 was comparatively speaking. so in my book it's doing fine. just wait for piracy and you'll see. ps: again, i don't use piracy i just KNOW how it affects sales.
Sony doesn't care about your "BOOK" they care about making money for their Investors. So in their "BOOK" I'm sure their not happy.
and you're right! but i hate how some people dismiss the ps3 just because it doesn't sell as well as "teh xbox"
What does this have to do with "teh xbox" this is a thread titled "Ps3 is doing fine in sales" which is not the case but it is doing much better then the last few years.
[QUOTE="iluvmachines"][QUOTE="sonny2dap"]ummmm no profit and an incredible amount of damage to the playstation brand yep just fine.Ultra_Combo
well xbox has piracy and i don't see it nowhere close to where the ps2 was comparatively speaking. so in my book it's doing fine. just wait for piracy and you'll see. ps: again, i don't use piracy i just KNOW how it affects sales.
Sony doesn't care about your "BOOK" they care about making money for their Investors. So in their "BOOK" I'm sure their not happy.
yeah the best lineup of 2009 (according to a lot of sites) and kickass sales numbers this year. geez they must be crying.
and you're right! but i hate how some people dismiss the ps3 just because it doesn't sell as well as "teh xbox"
The ironic thing being, when PS2 was dominating in sales last generation, the sony fans couldn't get enough of rubbing it in everybodies faces and rallying behind the sales banner as the platform for their declarations of victory.
Yet even today when PS3 is behind 360 and Wii in total sales, when ever there's a sales surge for a given month, they once again see the importance of sales. Only this time instead of being certified ownage, they think they're in a position to declare "future victory" in the console war.
PS3 may be doing better with the advent of the Slim and the new marketing campaign, but Sony is still losing money on the console. Not only that, their market share has fallen considerably since last gen. The fact that you are saying that they are fine just goes to show you how low their standards have fallen.
ps3 started out bad, but its definately taking steps in the right direction
sony expects their videogame division to be profitable by next year, iirc
ogvampire
I am sorry but that made me laugh a little just look how far into the gen we are and still Sony is saying they expect their console to bring a profit NEXT year. That is not steps in the right direction that is just praying they can stop the money bleeding. In the end they are still last in everything.
Sony is selling more systems per year since inception, they are now positioned to start making a profit w/Slim model. are they content with 3rd place, no. but are they in panic mode, no. they have 30 million systems out in 3 years, MS has 35 million in 4 years, do the math. MS did the right thing by getting their system out a year early and in some areas 18 months, this is why they are ahead. do the math.
[QUOTE="iluvmachines"] well xbox has piracy and i don't see it nowhere close to where the ps2 was comparatively speaking. so in my book it's doing fine. just wait for piracy and you'll see. ps: again, i don't use piracy i just KNOW how it affects sales.iluvmachines
Sony doesn't care about your "BOOK" they care about making money for their Investors. So in their "BOOK" I'm sure their not happy.
yeah the best lineup of 2009 (according to a lot of sites) and kickass sales numbers this year. geez they must be crying.
And yet to make 1 penny this generation. but i'm sure their shareholders are content with having a great lineup, beacuse instaed of getting money back on their investment they get free PS3 games :roll:
[QUOTE="iluvmachines"] well xbox has piracy and i don't see it nowhere close to where the ps2 was comparatively speaking. so in my book it's doing fine. just wait for piracy and you'll see. ps: again, i don't use piracy i just KNOW how it affects sales.iluvmachines
Sony doesn't care about your "BOOK" they care about making money for their Investors. So in their "BOOK" I'm sure their not happy.
yeah the best lineup of 2009 (according to a lot of sites) and kickass sales numbers this year. geez they must be crying.
Quite.
All those games and fierce strategies yet they're still bleeding money, all the while Microsoft have been kicking back this year, however, with money pouring in. I can see Sony "crying", yes.
i find funny how this was a topic not only about ps3 doing fine, but also how piracy affect sales and yet nobody has said a thing about it yet. i think it works like this - your console has piracy: you sell a lot of hardware, you get publicity (word of mouth) and sales skyrocket (even software, because of the "publicity" you get your console will be better known, and of course a lot of people can also afford originals. -your console has no piracy: people realize games cost A LOT of money and it's a lot harder for people to jump into your console. P.S: againn! i dont' encourage piracy i just want to remark how it affects sales.
and you're right! but i hate how some people dismiss the ps3 just because it doesn't sell as well as "teh xbox" OH PLEASE. Anytime the PS3 sells more then the 360 for one month on the NPD then it is a HUGE deal for them. In general the PS3 users on here love sales just as much as anyone else but can not brag about it since they have always been last. Let me guess none of the PS3 users wants to admit all the threads about once the slime came out the PS3 would crush everything. As we all know that is not the case but at the time the PS3 fans were hoping their last place console would sell more.
i find funny how this was a topic not only about ps3 doing fine, but also how piracy affect sales and yet nobody has said a thing about it yet. i think it works like this - your console has piracy: you sell a lot of hardware, you get publicity (word of mouth) and sales skyrocket. -your console has no piracy: people realize games cost A LOT of money and it's a lot harder for people to jump into your console. P.S: againn! i dont' encourage piracy i just want to remark how it affects sales.iluvmachines
I'm not sure if that is necessarily true. Piracy is rampant on the PC, but that doesn't exactly lead to skyrocketing sales. It makes developers bleed money, that's all.
and you're right! but i hate how some people dismiss the ps3 just because it doesn't sell as well as "teh xbox" OH PLEASE. Anytime the PS3 sells more then the 360 for one month on the NPD then it is a HUGE deal for them. In general the PS3 users on here love sales just as much as anyone else but can not brag about it since they have always been last. Let me guess none of the PS3 users wants to admit all the threads about once the slime came out the PS3 would crush everything. As we all know that is not the case but at the time the PS3 fans were hoping their last place console would sell more. referring to the last paragraph, thankfully i wasn't there...
What a totally redundant thread. Like, I can't even find a place to bash anything. Will any of these systems be discontinued before their next gen successors are released? No. Will each offer fantastic line ups that please its separate fans? Yes. Who gives a crap about sales? Let the companies worry about that. Why must System Wars be so political and financially minded? Can't we just bash eachother like we were meant to? :cry:
[QUOTE="iluvmachines"]i find funny how this was a topic not only about ps3 doing fine, but also how piracy affect sales and yet nobody has said a thing about it yet. i think it works like this - your console has piracy: you sell a lot of hardware, you get publicity (word of mouth) and sales skyrocket. -your console has no piracy: people realize games cost A LOT of money and it's a lot harder for people to jump into your console. P.S: againn! i dont' encourage piracy i just want to remark how it affects sales.shoryuken_
I'm not sure if that is necessarily true. Piracy is rampant on the PC, but that doesn't exactly lead to skyrocketing sales. It makes developers bleed money, that's all.
well maybe because there's not only one pc manufacturer, there's lots of them. i think i understand your point though.
ps3 started out bad, but its definately taking steps in the right direction
sony expects their videogame division to be profitable by next year, iirc
CanYouDiglt
I am sorry but that made me laugh a little just look how far into the gen we are and still Sony is saying they expect their console to bring a profit NEXT year. That is not steps in the right direction that is just praying they can stop the money bleeding. In the end they are still last in everything.
well yeah, when the ps3 launched, it was a big failure... but it has definately made some good strides recently, cant deny that fact
also, you cant forget this: the ps3 could have been profitable by now if they still sold it at $399, but their current plan is to expand their marketshare, so thats why they had the price cut to $299
1) Selling less than your competition 2) Not turning a profit It doesn't matter how you twist and turn it, the PS3 is not doing very well in sales. It might be a great platform, heck it could tuck you in at night and make you coffee in the morning.. it's sales are still bad. 2009 didn't change this. The PS3 did have a good year with a lot of great games.. and yet it still sold less than it's competitors and they still failed to make a profit.
1) Selling less than your competition 2) Not turning a profit It doesn't matter how you twist and turn it, the PS3 is not doing very well in sales. It might be a great platform, heck it could tuck you in at night and make you coffee in the morning.. it's sales are still bad. 2009 didn't change this. The PS3 did have a good year with a lot of great games.. and yet it still sold less than it's competitors and they still failed to make a profit.Mazoch
1) Selling less than your competition 2) Not turning a profit It doesn't matter how you twist and turn it, the PS3 is not doing very well in sales. It might be a great platform, heck it could tuck you in at night and make you coffee in the morning.. it's sales are still bad. 2009 didn't change this. The PS3 did have a good year with a lot of great games.. and yet it still sold less than it's competitors and they still failed to make a profit.Mazoch
Those poor sales most likely outsold the 360 on a worldwide scale.
Sony is getting close to breaking even on the PS3. If the PS3 was still 400, they would be making a profit on it now, but they decided to offer it cheaper so more people can have it. Besides they make the money back on software and accesory sales.
[QUOTE="Mazoch"]1) Selling less than your competition 2) Not turning a profit It doesn't matter how you twist and turn it, the PS3 is not doing very well in sales. It might be a great platform, heck it could tuck you in at night and make you coffee in the morning.. it's sales are still bad. 2009 didn't change this. The PS3 did have a good year with a lot of great games.. and yet it still sold less than it's competitors and they still failed to make a profit. its because answers like these that i'm considering about changing the title of the thread. can't people read at least the TC's message. is it that hard?
[QUOTE="Mazoch"]1) Selling less than your competition 2) Not turning a profit It doesn't matter how you twist and turn it, the PS3 is not doing very well in sales. It might be a great platform, heck it could tuck you in at night and make you coffee in the morning.. it's sales are still bad. 2009 didn't change this. The PS3 did have a good year with a lot of great games.. and yet it still sold less than it's competitors and they still failed to make a profit.iluvmachines
its because answers like these that i'm considering about changing the title of the thread. can't people read at least the TC's message. is it that hard?
I don't think anyone cares about your insinuation about how piracy "inflates console sales'" if this was such a huge factor then how come 360 software sales are so huge ? how about you answer that question.
[QUOTE="iluvmachines"][QUOTE="Mazoch"]1) Selling less than your competition 2) Not turning a profit It doesn't matter how you twist and turn it, the PS3 is not doing very well in sales. It might be a great platform, heck it could tuck you in at night and make you coffee in the morning.. it's sales are still bad. 2009 didn't change this. The PS3 did have a good year with a lot of great games.. and yet it still sold less than it's competitors and they still failed to make a profit.Ultra_Combo
its because answers like these that i'm considering about changing the title of the thread. can't people read at least the TC's message. is it that hard?
I don't think anyone cares about your insinuation about how piracy "inflates console sales'" if this was such a huge factor then how come 360 software sales are so huge ? how about you answer that question.
i have already explained the way i think it is. but just to refresh your memory... remember that little console called ps2? remember how it was the best selling console? remember how a lot of games got great sales numbers? and now remember how piracy was a MAJOR issue with ps2? simple. people in the areas i have mentioned buy the console and they make the userbase grow. these people make free publicity for the console manufacturer of choice (word of mouth). Even if they consume piracy, the huge publicity the manufacturer receives gives it a boost in sales not only in terms of hardware but software wise, because there's a lot of people who can afford to buy the original games. i think it's clear enough. P.S:again!!! i do not encourage piracy i just want to remark how it affects sales. i DO NOT CONSUME piracy.
[QUOTE="iluvmachines"] its because answers like these that i'm considering about changing the title of the thread. can't people read at least the TC's message. is it that hard? iluvmachines
I don't think anyone cares about your insinuation about how piracy "inflates console sales'" if this was such a huge factor then how come 360 software sales are so huge ? how about you answer that question.
i have already explained the way i think it is. but just to refresh your memory... remember that little console called ps2? remember how it was the best selling console? remember how a lot of games got great sales numbers? and now remember how piracy was a MAJOR issue with ps2? simple. people in the areas i have mentioned buy the console and they make the userbase grow. these people make free publicity for the console manufacturer of choice (word of mouth) even if they consume piracy. the huge publicity the manufacturer receives gives it a boost in sales not only in terms of hardware but software wise, because there's a lot of people who can afford to buy the original games. i think it's clear enough. P.S:again!!! i do not encourage piracy i just want to remark how it affects sales. i DO NOT CONSUME piracy.
So in other words your saying 360 sales are inflated because piracy.. then just come out and say it. Your right half of 360 sales are because of piracy the other half because RROD. PS3 sales are all legit and has no hardawre issues are you happy. :roll: Bottom line PS3 is in last place , reasons don't matter Sony doesn't go to their shareholders and say well 360 is only ahead because piracy.
[QUOTE="iluvmachines"] its because answers like these that i'm considering about changing the title of the thread. can't people read at least the TC's message. is it that hard? iluvmachines
I don't think anyone cares about your insinuation about how piracy "inflates console sales'" if this was such a huge factor then how come 360 software sales are so huge ? how about you answer that question.
i have already explained the way i think it is. but just to refresh your memory... remember that little console called ps2? remember how it was the best selling console? remember how a lot of games got great sales numbers? and now remember how piracy was a MAJOR issue with ps2? simple. people in the areas i have mentioned buy the console and they make the userbase grow. these people make free publicity for the console manufacturer of choice (word of mouth) even if they consume piracy. the huge publicity the manufacturer receives gives it a boost in sales not only in terms of hardware but software wise, because there's a lot of people who can afford to buy the original games. i think it's clear enough. P.S:again!!! i do not encourage piracy i just want to remark how it affects sales. i DO NOT CONSUME piracy.
Yes your theory is quite clear. However it's also unfounded as far as I can tell. I'd agree that the availablility of priacy could be motivating factor in buying the console. However to claim that it's a defioning factory, and then claiming that it's also increasing software sales is a long strech to put it mildly.
I don't think anyone cares about your insinuation about how piracy "inflates console sales'" if this was such a huge factor then how come 360 software sales are so huge ? how about you answer that question.
Ultra_Combo
i have already explained the way i think it is. but just to refresh your memory... remember that little console called ps2? remember how it was the best selling console? remember how a lot of games got great sales numbers? and now remember how piracy was a MAJOR issue with ps2? simple. people in the areas i have mentioned buy the console and they make the userbase grow. these people make free publicity for the console manufacturer of choice (word of mouth) even if they consume piracy. the huge publicity the manufacturer receives gives it a boost in sales not only in terms of hardware but software wise, because there's a lot of people who can afford to buy the original games. i think it's clear enough. P.S:again!!! i do not encourage piracy i just want to remark how it affects sales. i DO NOT CONSUME piracy.
So in other words your saying 360 sales are inflated because piracy.. then just come out and say it. Your right half of 360 sales are because of piracy the other half because RROD. PS3 sales are all legit and has no hardawre issues are you happy. :roll: Bottom line PS3 is in last place , reasons don't matter Sony doesn't go to their shareholders and say well 360 is only ahead because piracy.
i'm not saying this is the only factor to consider. does a year headstart ring a bell in your head? and there are others of course. i admit that during the "2007 ps3 game drought" i even considered buying one of the other consoles. all that i'm saying it's a factor to be considered
The Ps3 is doing better than the Xbox and GC so to me that's good but I think that when the say the Ps3 has bad sales they mean that it's in last place. And when you add the fact it's nowhere near the userbase of it's predecessor it's not all that good.
Oh and bashing wasn't necessary. It only makes you seem like a whining fanboy.
[QUOTE="iluvmachines"]People is always complaining about ps3 sales and hide behind them to justify their opinions. But what they don't realize is that ps3 is getting closer to the 360 even withouth piracy (i won't specify it, of course). Fact: piracy does affect sales, perhaps not in NA but in other countries it does. like in europe and south america where money is scarce in most situations and console prices are higher because of taxes and other stuff. (i'm not talking bs, i live in one of these areas) and so they decide to buy the console that posseses piracy. what console is that? or better yet what are those? the wii and the 360. unsurprisingly the two best selling consoles this gen. ps2 had piracy+ the best lineup in gaming history=the best selling console of all times. ps3 has a great lineup but it lacks piracy...so when the ps3 gets piracy...360 and wii are over. P.S. I'm in no way saying that i use piracy or that i encourage it. i actually own a ps3. how are you able to afford your games? you may be wondering. i exchange games with my family. i buy one, they buy another. they finish it, i borrow it from them. i don't encourage piracy i only wanted to remark how it affects console sales and other stuff. probably blog material, i know. Piracy is worse on the other systems, yet the attach rates are worse on the PS3? what?
and you're right! but i hate how some people dismiss the ps3 just because it doesn't sell as well as "teh xbox" OH PLEASE. Anytime the PS3 sells more then the 360 for one month on the NPD then it is a HUGE deal for them. In general the PS3 users on here love sales just as much as anyone else but can not brag about it since they have always been last. Let me guess none of the PS3 users wants to admit all the threads about once the slime came out the PS3 would crush everything. As we all know that is not the case but at the time the PS3 fans were hoping their last place console would sell more.
I've never cared about sales at all. And I still don't. They are completely and utterly worthless to me. I play games not sales. lol
People is always complaining about ps3 sales and hide behind them to justify their opinions. But what they don't realize is that ps3 is getting closer to the 360 even withouth piracy (i won't specify it, of course). Fact: piracy does affect sales, perhaps not in NA but in other countries it does. like in europe and south america where money is scarce in most situations and console prices are higher because of taxes and other stuff. (i'm not talking bs, i live in one of these areas) and so they decide to buy the console that posseses piracy. what console is that? or better yet what are those? the wii and the 360. unsurprisingly the two best selling consoles this gen. ps2 had piracy+ the best lineup in gaming history=the best selling console of all times. ps3 has a great lineup but it lacks piracy...so when the ps3 gets piracy...360 and wii are over. P.S. I'm in no way saying that i use piracy or that i encourage it. i actually own a ps3. how are you able to afford your games? you may be wondering. i exchange games with my family. i buy one, they buy another. they finish it, i borrow it from them. i don't encourage piracy i only wanted to remark how it affects console sales and other stuff. probably blog material, i know.iluvmachines
As I said in the exact same thread, that's like saying ps3 has those sales because people bought it as a blu ray player. You have no way to prove it. Also, PS3 sales are NOT doing fine. Go ask sony. They were first last gen with 100m+ sold and this gen they are last and not making money on the console. And LOL at the part when you said all of europe is poor :lol:
[QUOTE="iluvmachines"]People is always complaining about ps3 sales and hide behind them to justify their opinions. But what they don't realize is that ps3 is getting closer to the 360 even withouth piracy (i won't specify it, of course). Fact: piracy does affect sales, perhaps not in NA but in other countries it does. like in europe and south america where money is scarce in most situations and console prices are higher because of taxes and other stuff. (i'm not talking bs, i live in one of these areas) and so they decide to buy the console that posseses piracy. what console is that? or better yet what are those? the wii and the 360. unsurprisingly the two best selling consoles this gen. ps2 had piracy+ the best lineup in gaming history=the best selling console of all times. ps3 has a great lineup but it lacks piracy...so when the ps3 gets piracy...360 and wii are over. P.S. I'm in no way saying that i use piracy or that i encourage it. i actually own a ps3. how are you able to afford your games? you may be wondering. i exchange games with my family. i buy one, they buy another. they finish it, i borrow it from them. i don't encourage piracy i only wanted to remark how it affects console sales and other stuff. probably blog material, i know.93soccer
As I said in the exact same thread, that's like saying ps3 has those sales because people bought it as a blu ray player. You have no way to prove it. Also, PS3 sales are NOT doing fine. Go ask sony. They were first last gen with 100m+ sold and this gen they are last and not making money on the console. And LOL at the part when you said all of europe is poor :lol: my bad in the europe part :P i was refering to south america and yes i live there (of course not all south america is poor. but it's hard to ignore that is has some degree of poorness. that's where i got the idea for this thread (because i know how is the situation in here). you probably live in NA so you don't know how it is here. p.s: can you explain that blu-ray point you made there?
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="iluvmachines"] and you're right! but i hate how some people dismiss the ps3 just because it doesn't sell as well as "teh xbox"good_sk8er7
OH PLEASE. Anytime the PS3 sells more then the 360 for one month on the NPD then it is a HUGE deal for them. In general the PS3 users on here love sales just as much as anyone else but can not brag about it since they have always been last. Let me guess none of the PS3 users wants to admit all the threads about once the slime came out the PS3 would crush everything. As we all know that is not the case but at the time the PS3 fans were hoping their last place console would sell more.
I've never cared about sales at all. And I still don't. They are completely and utterly worthless to me. I play games not sales. lol
ok great
Oh BTW you are in a thread about sales and the PS3....ummm.....sooo...you clicked and even responded to say you do not care. I guess my only response to that is ..ummmm..sooo..The 360 has sold more.
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"] OH PLEASE. Anytime the PS3 sells more then the 360 for one month on the NPD then it is a HUGE deal for them. In general the PS3 users on here love sales just as much as anyone else but can not brag about it since they have always been last. Let me guess none of the PS3 users wants to admit all the threads about once the slime came out the PS3 would crush everything. As we all know that is not the case but at the time the PS3 fans were hoping their last place console would sell more.CanYouDiglt
I've never cared about sales at all. And I still don't. They are completely and utterly worthless to me. I play games not sales. lol
ok great Oh BTW you are in a thread about sales and the PS3....ummm.....sooo...you clicked and even responded to say you do not care LOL. that's like people actually searching gh and rb videos just to say "hey go get a life or a girlfriend"
[QUOTE="iluvmachines"] i have already explained the way i think it is. but just to refresh your memory... remember that little console called ps2? remember how it was the best selling console? remember how a lot of games got great sales numbers? and now remember how piracy was a MAJOR issue with ps2? simple. people in the areas i have mentioned buy the console and they make the userbase grow. these people make free publicity for the console manufacturer of choice (word of mouth) even if they consume piracy. the huge publicity the manufacturer receives gives it a boost in sales not only in terms of hardware but software wise, because there's a lot of people who can afford to buy the original games. i think it's clear enough. P.S:again!!! i do not encourage piracy i just want to remark how it affects sales. i DO NOT CONSUME piracy.iluvmachines
So in other words your saying 360 sales are inflated because piracy.. then just come out and say it. Your right half of 360 sales are because of piracy the other half because RROD. PS3 sales are all legit and has no hardawre issues are you happy. :roll: Bottom line PS3 is in last place , reasons don't matter Sony doesn't go to their shareholders and say well 360 is only ahead because piracy.
i'm not saying this is the only factor to consider. does a year headstart ring a bell in your head? and there are others of course. i admit that during the "2007 ps3 game drought" i even considered buying one of the other consoles. all that i'm saying it's a factor to be considered
Uh 360 had a year headstart over the Wii also , guess that's different somehow right.. and who's fault is the year head start. that's right Sony. This thread is just one big spin on sales, suprised there is no mention on how last is the new 1st.. there is only one bottom line ps3 is last in sales. Just be happy the ps3 is an awesome games machine and has great games. The sooner you get over it being in last place the sooner you can worry about other thngs. kTHNKXBI
I wouldnt say the ps3 is doing just fine. Both the Psone and the ps2 were huge successes. The PS2 dominated the market and outsold its two competitors combined by almost 100 million! Despite being the least technically advanced of the three consoles on the market, it had the biggest and arguable the best game library. The ps3 has done none of that. Even if it does surpass the 360, it has already lost a huge amount of ground compared to last gen. The playstation name used to be synonomous with gaming, now it's just one of the choices.
ps3 started out bad, but its definately taking steps in the right direction
sony expects their videogame division to be profitable by next year, iirc
CanYouDiglt
I am sorry but that made me laugh a little just look how far into the gen we are and still Sony is saying they expect their console to bring a profit NEXT year. That is not steps in the right direction that is just praying they can stop the money bleeding. In the end they are still last in everything.
ps3 cost 36$ more to make and will probably cost less at the end of 2010, also ps3 was first in terms of games at 2008 and 2009 so stop saying ps3 is last on everything
I just realised the fact there are lots of pirated 360s make it´s huge software sales even more impressive :o
PAL360
larger user base= more publicity. is that hard to understand?
humm....what does it has to do with what i said?
I don't understand either. The attach rate speaks for itself really. I'm assuming that it's still higher than that of PS3; despite a prevalent piracy issue.
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